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Posted - 2010.05.17 17:34:00 -
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The most dangerous of criminals are what makes the Minmatar's most notorious elite fighting force. The Valklears. This is their story.
"Valklears" is a new EVE Chronicle written by CCP Ginger.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2010.05.17 17:45:00 -
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Phunny name. *reads*
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Alexeph Stoekai
Stoekai Corp
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Posted - 2010.05.17 17:52:00 -
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*shiver*
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Casiella Truza
Ecliptic Rift
New Eden Research
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Posted - 2010.05.17 18:16:00 -
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I love a Hjalti mind-screw more than just about anybody, but I'm glad for an infodump, too... especially one that reduces our PF reliance on Theodicy a bit.
Also, props to my brothers in the Valklear Guard who live up to their namesake.
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Merouk Baas
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.05.17 19:23:00 -
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Minor typo in the first sentence I think.
Also, written from the point of view of a general description bulletin, which is exactly what the story says shouldn't exist in the last paragraph. I mean, if it's secret, a general description of it, like this story, wouldn't exist in this form, right?
Maybe if it was written as a gossip chat between two Minmatar workers or criminals or something...
Anyway, good info, thanks for writing it.
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Teinyhr
Minmatar
Nor'akho Matar
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Posted - 2010.05.17 19:42:00 -
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Edited by: Teinyhr on 17/05/2010 19:44:15
Edited by: Teinyhr on 17/05/2010 19:43:42
I'm going to assume the Minmatar don't have any female soldiers among their ground troops then? At least not in the same units as the men..
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Esna Pitoojee
Amarr
Order of the Golden Lobster
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Posted - 2010.05.17 19:58:00 -
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What struck me as I read this chronicle is how much like slavery this could be seen to be. "Hey, you guys are criminals. Work for us in this insanely dangerous job, or spend many more years behind bars." Yes, it's a stretch, but especially since Hederian altered the laws so that only criminals could be made slaves in Imperial territory...
I like this a lot, actually. Plays very nicely to how in EVE there are no good guys and bad guys, just different shades of gray guys.
 Originally by: Teinyhr
Edited by: Teinyhr on 17/05/2010 19:44:15
Edited by: Teinyhr on 17/05/2010 19:43:42
I'm going to assume the Minmatar don't have any female soldiers among their ground troops then? At least not in the same units as the men..
It'd seem inadvisable. On the other hand, they're obviously enforcing discipline with an absolute iron fist, so mixing of the sexes might just be seen as another way to weed out those who are unable to obey the rules.
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Locutus ofBorg
Caldari
Federation of Freedom Fighters
En Garde
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Posted - 2010.05.17 20:01:00 -
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Spelling error "Solders - Soldiers" "Brining - Bringing"
Aside from those two it was a well written chronicle, not very descriptive but nice information to fill the void on anything but the modern minmatar torture techniques.
Infodump on NPC Minmatar forces for Dust 514 anyone?
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Beani Kliadi
Caldari
Arekin Consortium
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Posted - 2010.05.17 20:26:00 -
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Good info, wouldnt want to bump into one of these guys after they are set free. Though i guess with all that training it must change them into better, tougher people in almost all cases.
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Dansel
Gallente
Empire Assault Corp
Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.05.17 21:32:00 -
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Good read, lil short though
And by the way, they should really separate sigs from the main post.
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Kenpachi Viktor
Gradient
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2010.05.18 02:51:00 -
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For the Republic.
oh wait... what?
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Baillif
Red Mist Inc.
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Posted - 2010.05.18 03:24:00 -
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One of the most famous Valklears raids was led by Major John Reisman, who led a 12 man squad behind enemy lines to take out a chGteau filled with high ranking Amarr officers. Unfortunately the entire plan went horribly horribly wrong and they had to resort to plan b which involved dropping grenades down into the chGteau's bomb shelter, killing all the Amarr officers. Only 4 Valklears survived.
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Aleksandar Kerensky
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Posted - 2010.05.18 04:31:00 -
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Hah! What obvious propaganda. Don't be taken in by this amarrian nonsense.
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Graelyn
Amarr
Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2010.05.18 06:00:00 -
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Nice one, Ginger! 
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Anela Cistine
Amarr
GoonWaffe
SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.05.18 06:55:00 -
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Originally by: Teinyhr
Edited by: Teinyhr on 17/05/2010 19:44:15
Edited by: Teinyhr on 17/05/2010 19:43:42
I'm going to assume the Minmatar don't have any female soldiers among their ground troops then? At least not in the same units as the men..
What makes you sure that there aren't female Valklears? Women can be stubborn thieves, rapists, and murderers too.
You are thinking too much like a 20th century earthling. This is the future, thousands and thousands of years in the future, and the surviving people have had thousands of years of uncivilized non-earth evolution. They may not even be homo sapiens anymore, much less dogmatically chauvinistic.
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Dierdra Vaal
Caldari
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2010.05.18 07:23:00 -
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'solders' (first sentence, first paragraph), 'brining'(third sentence, third paragraph).
Nice chronicle but someone really need to proof read these things tbh.
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Teinyhr
Minmatar
Nor'akho Matar
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Posted - 2010.05.18 07:26:00 -
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Originally by: Anela Cistine
What makes you sure that there aren't female Valklears? Women can be stubborn thieves, rapists, and murderers too.
When I said "I'm going to assume" it meant assuming, not being sure. And of course you are right, women can commit horrible crimes just as the men but still... Actually now that I think about it the women might form their own extra cruel special unit that makes even the other Valklears feel uneasy.
Comic fo' sho' Not Safe For Work
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Racjel
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Posted - 2010.05.18 08:47:00 -
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I would say, nothing new.
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Daesyana
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Posted - 2010.05.18 12:29:00 -
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Nice Chronicle. Made me think back when the US still allowed minors to opt for military service as punishment for misdemeanors they committed. I know a couple guys that the discipline actually turned their lives around and made them men.
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War Kitten
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Posted - 2010.05.18 12:44:00 -
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Nice subject matter and a pretty good read.
While we're amateur-editing, I have a suggestion...
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The military commanders would have none of it, and the Valklear program remained and continues to prosper to this day, although it has lost none of its infamous reputation.
The phrasing is awkward and usage of "although" seems inappropriate here. I'd word it more like:
"The military commanders would have none of it, and the Valklear program remained. It continues to prosper to this day, and has lost none of its infamous reputation."
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Pesets
The Hunt Club
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Posted - 2010.05.18 13:31:00 -
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I wonder how long its gonna be before new chronicles make it look like the Amarr were doing the right thing from the start.
I also wonder how many decades it's will take for the wormhole-related stuff to get any sort of meaningful storyline advancement.
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Seriphyn Inhonores
Gallente
Moira. Vanguard
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Posted - 2010.05.18 13:52:00 -
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Omnomnomnom infodump nomnom 
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Bartholomeus Crane
Gallente
The Crane Family
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Posted - 2010.05.18 14:58:00 -
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brine
n.
1. Water saturated with or containing large amounts of a salt, especially sodium chloride.
2.
a. The water of a sea or an ocean.
b. A large body of salt water.
3. Salt water used for preserving and pickling foods.
tr.v. brined, brin+ing, brines
To immerse, preserve, or pickle in salt water.
Could work, but is unlikely 
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Kain Hakonen
Caldari
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2010.05.18 16:06:00 -
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This is the dark, dubious EVE I fell in love with so long ago.
MOAR!
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Lt Forge
Pilots From Honour
Aeternus.
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Posted - 2010.05.18 16:54:00 -
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Valklears..  ?
Carebears..  ?
Oh god  !
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Nie'eine Hier
Net 7
The Last Brigade
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Posted - 2010.05.18 17:05:00 -
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Is a nice description of an art of rehabilitation
But the idea of using convicts is not something new. Allmost any KGB type organization made from such men successfull elite soldiers.
And just like in the story: you never know who was the newspapers seller on the street some years or some days ago.
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Joe Skellington
Minmatar
JOKAS Industries
Apocalypse Now.
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Posted - 2010.05.18 17:28:00 -
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Edited by: Joe Skellington on 18/05/2010 17:29:15
I'm a nice guy, honest :(
Thanks for the good read :)
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El'van
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Posted - 2010.05.18 17:48:00 -
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Is it only me seeing a tiny-tiny reference to F. Herbert's infamous Imperial Sardaukars?
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Anabella Rella
Minmatar
Gradient
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2010.05.18 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: Baillif
One of the most famous Valklears raids was led by Major John Reisman, who led a 12 man squad behind enemy lines to take out a chGteau filled with high ranking Amarr officers. Unfortunately the entire plan went horribly horribly wrong and they had to resort to plan b which involved dropping grenades down into the chGteau's bomb shelter, killing all the Amarr officers. Only 4 Valklears survived.
I dunno about Dune, but this guy sure thought the same as me with the Dirty Dozen reference.
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Sierra X117
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Posted - 2010.05.18 19:13:00 -
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me likey :)
rarely respond to the chronicles, even though i read them all.
but good job mate.
me likey
Sierra X117
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Sorien Jalicho
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Posted - 2010.05.18 20:38:00 -
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I do dispair.... <= Lol
All half of you seem to do is look for spelling errors....
Or suggest corrections. Are you english teachers?
Does it matter?
Just enjoy it, this nit picking is down right rude to the author.
Nice bit of background
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cBOLTSON
Caldari
Shadow Legion.
Talos Coalition
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Posted - 2010.05.18 23:45:00 -
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Awesome short story. I like the gritty military types.
Also bares some resemablance to real life.....
Also does this mean we may see Valklear spec ships? ooo :P
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Aleksandar Kerensky
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Posted - 2010.05.19 05:07:00 -
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Are you really all so blind? Ofcourse slaves couldn't possibly be warriors (oh wait, the revolution was started by a slave smashing the skull of an amarrian with a Khumaak) nono, the only good minmatar warriors are brutal criminals. ....
AND EVEN NOW THEY ARE IN MINMATAR HIGH COMMAND, THE CRIMINALS!!!111
get a grip, this is laughably ridiculous amarrian propaganda, why do you even give it the least attention?
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AgentBullocks
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Posted - 2010.05.19 05:41:00 -
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hmm...Sounds like the US Army
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Lusulpher
Blackwater Syndicate
Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.05.19 06:07:00 -
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Edited by: Lusulpher on 19/05/2010 06:07:07
"the public remaining ignorant of a Minmatar military run by murderers and thieves."
This pleases the D.i.c.k, Cheney. BRawwwr!["Go **** yourself!"/Halliburton/Continuity Of Government]
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Kain Hakonen
Caldari
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2010.05.19 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: Aleksandar Kerensky
Are you really all so blind? Ofcourse slaves couldn't possibly be warriors (oh wait, the revolution was started by a slave smashing the skull of an amarrian with a Khumaak) nono, the only good minmatar warriors are brutal criminals. ....
AND EVEN NOW THEY ARE IN MINMATAR HIGH COMMAND, THE CRIMINALS!!!111
get a grip, this is laughably ridiculous amarrian propaganda, why do you even give it the least attention?
Just FYI, this isn't an IC board it's OOC... and that infodump is 100% canon. All the factions have their dirty laundry. If you chose a faction thinking EVE was good vs. evil, well, I've got bad news for you--everyone is evil in this setting, they just have different flavours.
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Lledrith
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Posted - 2010.05.20 14:00:00 -
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Originally by: Daesyana
Nice Chronicle. Made me think back when the US still allowed minors to opt for military service as punishment for misdemeanors they committed. I know a couple guys that the discipline actually turned their lives around and made them men.
I can tell you that this option is still being use. it depends all by the judge or the plea of defence attorney. you may not start in a good job assigment but if you continue in making a career out of it you can accpomlish anything in the military.
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Pastor Pulpit
Wreckage Reclamation Enforcement Consortium
Gentlemen's Interstellar Nightclub
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Posted - 2010.05.21 01:29:00 -
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Born again hard, just like Gunny liked 'em. Hell, I may even allow them to serve as a spaceman in my beloved Corps.
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Silver Night
Caldari
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2010.05.21 01:46:00 -
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<3 Info Chrons, and also Ginger
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Nicholas Barker
Black Nova Corp
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.21 14:12:00 -
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Kameiras are better.
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Leopold Caine
Amarr
Stillwater Corporation
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Posted - 2010.05.22 11:08:00 -
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Pirates vs. Ninjas
Valklears vs. Kameiras
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Nicholas Barker
Black Nova Corp
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.23 23:52:00 -
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Both are trained to hell and back, Kameiras are enhanced some what though i think. Kameiras probably have higher moral too, since they don't fear death so much.
Valklears probably have more creativity though and would be less predictable.
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Azura Noctis
Amarr
SWARTA
Mostly Clueless
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Posted - 2010.05.26 12:08:00 -
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Edited by: Azura Noctis on 26/05/2010 12:12:38
Nice bit of info, even though I think this was mentioned at some point or another in a different format. However, it is always good to get a refresher course of things that are in the back of your mind occasionally. Keep up the good work guys, loved the novel Abraxas. :)
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Terminal Insanity
Minmatar
Gith Industries
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Posted - 2010.05.26 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: Esna Pitoojee
What struck me as I read this chronicle is how much like slavery this could be seen to be. "Hey, you guys are criminals. Work for us in this insanely dangerous job, or spend many more years behind bars." Yes, it's a stretch, but especially since Hederian altered the laws so that only criminals could be made slaves in Imperial territory...
Actually, its not a stretch at all. This technique is used all over the USA today.
From smaller offenses, like a DUI, but you can receive a lesser sentence if you subject yourself to the religious zealots at the 10-step programs
Or harder offenses, that will land you in prison... depending on the crime, you may be given an option in the military. Well over 10% of the US military's recruits require waivers for their criminal records.
In fact, our culture encourages the notion that if you're getting a rocky start in life, you should just join the military. Troubled teen? Military! Low school grades? Military! Drugs? Military! No job? Military!
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Xaarous
Caldari
Primary.
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Posted - 2010.05.26 17:32:00 -
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Horatio Sargent
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Posted - 2010.05.26 20:54:00 -
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Very clever idea. However, I assume that the Caldari have the best of soldiers. They are a military state, and all troopers would naturally have the will and discipline to be elite.
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Drake Harrington
Caldari
Pendragon Inc
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2010.05.27 17:32:00 -
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I love this concept .... im looking forward to seeing what they give the Caldari and Gallente. As for the comment on Caldari units, the State has a unified training program where every able bodied man, woman, and dear say child can use a weapon(military grade). i would figure there Elite would be something close to a SAS or US Special Forces(yes I know there 2 very different units)
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Deks
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.05.28 09:34:00 -
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Nice Chronicle, may I ask who did the artwork for this piece? (the one of the military line-up)
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CCP Ginger
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Posted - 2010.06.02 11:06:00 -
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Cheers for the comments,
Just wanted to share this story which I really enjoyed reading, props to the author:
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Djoser Soter
Amarr
Khanid Provincial Vanguard
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Posted - 2010.08.21 05:26:00 -
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Wait what, US and special forces in the same sentence? :P
Mhm, interesting read, penal regiments are more something I expected from the Caldari but it also makes perfect sense within the Minmatar Republic.
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Rita Zechs
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Posted - 2010.08.25 12:53:00 -
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wtf is a SOLDER
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Ristvak Vrail
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Posted - 2010.11.18 02:46:00 -
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Actually, Eve may have already given the Gallente and Caldari elite military units. For the Caldari, read the chronicle "A Life in 3 Acts" since it talks about a genetically engineered soldier. For the Gallente, their elite force is probably the Black Eagles.
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