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Ikserak tai
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Posted - 2010.05.18 13:19:00 -
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Approx 1200 hours some clown called Slave Tama01 started posting in lavender script (!) that Sansha nation was invading Penirgman. A lot of pilots scrambled to meet this "invasion fleet".
After checking all planets, not a single Sansha was sighted by myself nor any other pilot. The Slave Tama01 kept us updated on drop ship deployment and the hundreds of thousands of people they had captured.
If this is an "event" initiated by CCP, then why the imaginary fleet? I expect even Iceland has its version of "Peter and the Wolf", and if this is a precursor to actual invasions to begin with Tyrannis deployment, then why the bogus invasion? Why should anyone respond to some fake local occurence?
If this is not a CCP event, then beware of jerkfaces in local yanking your chains. The Sansha incursions only exist in the maggot-brained mind of a prankster.
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Sir Fourhead
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.05.18 13:28:00 -
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I'm pretty sure said incursion happened in deadspace near the planet.
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CCP Dropbear
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Posted - 2010.05.18 13:29:00 -
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The fleet was far from imaginary. 
This might help shed some light on the situation.
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Stella Tradewind
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Posted - 2010.05.18 13:34:00 -
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 Originally by: CCP Dropbear
The fleet was far from imaginary.
This might help shed some light on the situation.
Wow, those rp'ers are a scary bunch 
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Math'ra Hiede
Amarr
Capital Ships Inc.
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Posted - 2010.05.18 13:37:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Dropbear
The fleet was far from imaginary.
This might help shed some light on the situation.
Yeahh.... you evil people you!
Deadspace pockets =/= cool. (welp, except that its a damn good idea from teh Sansha's point of view.)
But it does make everyone rage, and make it rather... frantic (to be generous) to get to the event
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Ikserak tai
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Posted - 2010.05.18 13:52:00 -
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Well, then, this exposes the absurdity of the bookmark system, in that you can only transfer coordinates to a location by creating a commodity (push pin)and jettisoning it for someone else to recover it.
How are players supposed to respond to an invasion in deadspace when the coordinates cannot be shared and transferred in local?
Since when do habitable planets in a system exist in deadspace?
Sansha ships reportedly captured hundreds of thousands of people in the space of less than half an hour. Is this even remotely realistic? The lag time of each and every player having to scan down a deadspace location and then switch to a combat ship makes any response piecemeal at best.
If this is at all designed to get players together in a community response to a threat a mechanic must be worked out to be able to share the location coordinates with some immediacy. Other than that, I can only see a whole lot of vacant houses and apartments flooding the real estate markets of the affected systems.
YOU'VE NEVER ROCKED 'TIL YOU'VE UNDOCKED. |
Something Random
Gallente
The Barrow Boys
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Posted - 2010.05.18 13:56:00 -
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Errrr... Perhaps create a Fleet ? Invite everyone in and let them warp to you ?
Maybe ?
Originally by: CCP Fallout
:facepalm:
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Musical Fist
Gallente
The Unknown Bar and Pub
Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.18 13:56:00 -
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Originally by: Stella Tradewind
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
The fleet was far from imaginary.
This might help shed some light on the situation.
Wow, those rp'ers are a scary bunch
Personally I envy them, I always wanted to have a story behind my actions in game, maybe oneday I will, until then props to all the RP'ers for some of the best threads ever ;)
This is so not my main
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Grarr Dexx
Amarr
GK inc.
Panda Team
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Posted - 2010.05.18 13:58:00 -
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Originally by: Something Random
Errrr... Perhaps create a Fleet ? Invite everyone in and let them warp to you ?
Maybe ?
Whoa whoa whoa, now. One step at a time.
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Durzel
The Xenodus Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.05.18 14:22:00 -
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Originally by: Math'ra Hiede
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
The fleet was far from imaginary.
This might help shed some light on the situation.
Yeahh.... you evil people you!
Deadspace pockets =/= cool. (welp, except that its a damn good idea from teh Sansha's point of view.)
But it does make everyone rage, and make it rather... frantic (to be generous) to get to the event
Yeah God forbid you should have to put some effort in besides just turning up, warping to a planet and pres butan to get Nightmare or carrier KM.
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RifterDrifter
They Found Oil On Your Anus
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Posted - 2010.05.18 14:31:00 -
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Edited by: RifterDrifter on 18/05/2010 14:32:37
Originally by: Something Random
Errrr... Perhaps create a Fleet ? Invite everyone in and let them warp to you ?
Maybe ?
Imagine a chatroom full of 200 Empire-dwellers all waiting 23/7 for the report of a Live-Event that shakes them out of their dull missioneering.
Now imagine one of them figures out how to use probes, finds the Deadspace and suddenly realizes he has a field full of 1,8 Mil-Sansha-BS in the middle of Highsec and only he and a handfull of others have found it.
Now imagine finally one of the carebears actually opens a fleet to get others in there and suddenly 200 people X up in the same second and every single one of them needs a manual invite thanks to a ****up about standingfleets.
Yeah, just imagine.
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Boppi
Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.05.18 14:39:00 -
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Edited by: Boppi on 18/05/2010 14:38:58
Putting the Sanshas on savespots is ******ed, the chances of someone scanning them out fast enough and scrambling a fleet together in time is just so slim and is frustrating to all who don't get invited into the fleet.
Just let them appear on Planets again BUT move all Events to lowsec. Greater Risk/Reward-Value, more fun and pew between actual players instead of just shooting at a Dev and the Lowsec-people might stop baaaawing for a few days about Lowsec being boring and not getting love from CCP (because Lowsec sucks)
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Xtover
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.05.18 14:42:00 -
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There are definately some bugs and thigns to iron out, but don't let it dissuade you CCP.
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Rolare
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.05.18 14:46:00 -
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Originally by: Musical Fist
Personally I envy them, I always wanted to have a story behind my actions in game, maybe oneday I will, until then props to all the RP'ers for some of the best threads ever ;)
Eh, you could always just jump in, I did that and well, even now my character is taking a sort of shape (would be a helluva lot better if I could actually play the game but...) >.>
The 16-page biography will come later xD
A bit more on-topic:
Sort of freaky to be in somenthing like this where your enemy ain't Mr. ****** NPC :P
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Ghengis Tia
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Posted - 2010.05.18 15:12:00 -
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Originally by: Something Random
Errrr... Perhaps create a Fleet ? Invite everyone in and let them warp to you ?
Maybe ?
Fleet mechanics are a mystery to solo players.
They also stink of ambush by suicide gankers. If I'm going to warp in to a coordinate with a faction fitted Tengu I'm going to need some assurance that these coordinates are legit.
If the concept is to get disparate players acting in unison to an outside threat, why make it such a hassle to participate?
You want the local citizens to form a militia, they grab a musket and meet in the town square.
You want local capsuleers to blunt an invasion. But someone has to probe out the site first. Then that someone has to be kind enough to want to share the information with everyone. Then that someone has to form a fleet and disregard the hardwire ingrained Eve dictum of "trust no one".
The real probability is that the guy who probes out the site is going to call his buddies and share the opportunity with them only. Can't really blame them, can we?
This is just another situation where solo players are gimped again and corporations have a tremendous advantage.
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2010.05.18 15:18:00 -
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(( One option would be for the folks running the live events to drop a beacon when they're discovered - in the same way that a cyno or faction warfare mission site drops a beacon that everyone can warp to. ))
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Jill Xelitras
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.05.18 15:34:00 -
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Originally by: Ghengis Tia
that someone has to form a fleet and disregard the hardwire ingrained Eve dictum of "trust no one".
The real probability is that the guy who probes out the site is going to call his buddies and share the opportunity with them only. Can't really blame them, can we?
This is just another situation where solo players are gimped again and corporations have a tremendous advantage.
In high-sec I have very little trouble trusting people. As long as you're not part of a war, there's not much anyone can do to harm you. The little they could do to you is easily avoided.
Originally by: Ghengis Tia
Fleet mechanics are a mystery to solo players.
Who's fault ?
Originally by: Ghengis Tia
They also stink of ambush by suicide gankers. If I'm going to warp in to a coordinate with a faction fitted Tengu I'm going to need some assurance that these coordinates are legit.
Don't warp to 0 or have a look first in a cheaper ship.
Jill "Smartbehind" Xelitras
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Ninetails o'Cat
League of Super Evil
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Posted - 2010.05.18 15:43:00 -
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Originally by: Ghengis Tia
This is just another situation where solo players are gimped again and corporations have a tremendous advantage.
If you miss being in a corp, why don't you get into one? 
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Ildryn
The Inf1dels
En Garde
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Posted - 2010.05.18 15:51:00 -
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This is perfect...eve is a multiplayer game.
If you need help killing the sansha...form a fleet.
If you think its a gank let the story play out.
Your fault for not knowing how to probe.
Devs are doing something realistic (in eve)
HTFU !
Bottom line the story is going to continue with or without the whine fest.
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Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2010.05.18 16:11:00 -
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THERE ARE NO SANSHA.
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Ranger 1
Amarr
Dynaverse Corporation
Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.05.18 16:45:00 -
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Edited by: Ranger 1 on 18/05/2010 16:45:11
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This is just another situation where solo players are gimped again and corporations have a tremendous advantage.
Well duh!
If you want to become an important part of the large events happening all around you (every day actually) in EVE, the tools are in place for you to do so. Just like they are for everyone else.
If you want to lone wolf it, thats fine too. But part of going that route is accpeting the fact that you have only yourself, your skills, and your equipment to rely upon. A lone wolf could still probe out the event, create a fleet (assuming nobody else has), place whatever restrictions you wish on who can join it, and advertise it. Suddenly everyone (depending on the restrictions you set) can join it freely, warp to you, and engage the enemy in force. You would be the hero of the hour.
But that would require a minute or two to do (depending on your skill with probes, and familiarity with fleet creation), and actually BEING the ruggedly independant, resourceful, self sufficient pilot you are portraying yourself to be.
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Dan O'Connor
Cerberus Network
Dignitas.
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Posted - 2010.05.18 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: Dirk Magnum
THERE ARE NO SANSHA.
INVISIBLE SANSHA
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Ghengis Tia
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Posted - 2010.05.19 12:16:00 -
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Originally by: Ranger 1
Edited by: Ranger 1 on 18/05/2010 16:45:11
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This is just another situation where solo players are gimped again and corporations have a tremendous advantage.
Well duh!
If you want to become an important part of the large events happening all around you (every day actually) in EVE, the tools are in place for you to do so. Just like they are for everyone else.
If you want to lone wolf it, thats fine too. But part of going that route is accpeting the fact that you have only yourself, your skills, and your equipment to rely upon. A lone wolf could still probe out the event, create a fleet (assuming nobody else has), place whatever restrictions you wish on who can join it, and advertise it. Suddenly everyone (depending on the restrictions you set) can join it freely, warp to you, and engage the enemy in force. You would be the hero of the hour.
But that would require a minute or two to do (depending on your skill with probes, and familiarity with fleet creation), and actually BEING the ruggedly independant, resourceful, self sufficient pilot you are portraying yourself to be.
Point well taken. It was a pretty weak whine, should have thought it through. Since I don't hang in Penirgman usually, my resources were a dozen jumps away and I was frustrated I couldn't saddle up to join in the fun. I find it very hard to trust other players by joining their fleets, so I'll just stash some spare ships in Peni in the off chance I'll see that purple script in local again.
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