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Jane Vladmir
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Posted - 2004.12.07 00:13:00 -
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Nerf'm Make 'em take up 1/4'th of the cap or 1/4'th of the armor or something fun?
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Jane Vladmir
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Posted - 2004.12.07 00:13:00 -
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Nerf'm Make 'em take up 1/4'th of the cap or 1/4'th of the armor or something fun?
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Caldorous
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Posted - 2004.12.07 00:19:00 -
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Edited by: Caldorous on 07/12/2004 00:21:39 As far as i know, the stabs once where like the sensor boosters, med slotted and active (cap consuming), now only use a noticeable amount of cpu, especially on frigs and cruisers...
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Caldorous
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Posted - 2004.12.07 00:19:00 -
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Edited by: Caldorous on 07/12/2004 00:21:39 As far as i know, the stabs once where like the sensor boosters, med slotted and active (cap consuming), now only use a noticeable amount of cpu, especially on frigs and cruisers...
So they r good as they are now -----------------------------
2005.03.13 01:11:29combatYour 350mm Railgun I perfectly strikes Asteroid (Veldspar), wrecking for 0.0 damage. |
will9anthony
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Posted - 2004.12.07 00:34:00 -
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/me points at the tech two disruptor and the tech two warp stabs
once those are out itll be a slight nerf I am back |
will9anthony
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Posted - 2004.12.07 00:34:00 -
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/me points at the tech two disruptor and the tech two warp stabs
once those are out itll be a slight nerf I am back |
The Chef
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Posted - 2004.12.07 02:19:00 -
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People run. If they want to waste their 5 low slots on WCS, thats fine by me. Get a battlecruiser, slap on 3 scramblers and p0wn ====================================
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The Chef
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Posted - 2004.12.07 02:19:00 -
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People run. If they want to waste their 5 low slots on WCS, thats fine by me. Get a battlecruiser, slap on 3 scramblers and p0wn ====================================
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Pandora Panda
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Posted - 2004.12.07 03:35:00 -
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Originally by: will9anthony /me points at the tech two disruptor and the tech two warp stabs
once those are out itll be a slight nerf
How? Once tech2 scramblers and WCS are released, it'll take 3 tech2 WCS to cancel out 2 tech2 warp scramblers.
If I'm not mistaken, thats making them even more effective, an arma with 8 WCS IIs will require 6 scrambler IIs instead of 5. -------------------------------------------- CONCORD: Kneecapping Pilots for Misdemeanors Since 2003 |
Pandora Panda
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Posted - 2004.12.07 03:35:00 -
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Originally by: will9anthony /me points at the tech two disruptor and the tech two warp stabs
once those are out itll be a slight nerf
How? Once tech2 scramblers and WCS are released, it'll take 3 tech2 WCS to cancel out 2 tech2 warp scramblers.
If I'm not mistaken, thats making them even more effective, an arma with 8 WCS IIs will require 6 scrambler IIs instead of 5. -------------------------------------------- CONCORD: Kneecapping Pilots for Misdemeanors Since 2003 |
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will9anthony
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Posted - 2004.12.07 04:49:00 -
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scarmblers needed to be nerfed, disruptors needed a boost, warp stabs get both
now you can scamble/disrupt at a longer range and warp stabs actually have to be turned on (lots of people are going to panic
on the reverse those pesky ceptors are going to have a harder time keeping people there
so basically its a nerf for scamblers, and a semi nerf for stabs, and a small boost for disruptors... however i expect them to change the scamble strneglth to 4 and totally defeat the perpose of them I am back |
will9anthony
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Posted - 2004.12.07 04:49:00 -
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scarmblers needed to be nerfed, disruptors needed a boost, warp stabs get both
now you can scamble/disrupt at a longer range and warp stabs actually have to be turned on (lots of people are going to panic
on the reverse those pesky ceptors are going to have a harder time keeping people there
so basically its a nerf for scamblers, and a semi nerf for stabs, and a small boost for disruptors... however i expect them to change the scamble strneglth to 4 and totally defeat the perpose of them I am back |
Xendie
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Posted - 2004.12.07 10:50:00 -
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Originally by: Jane Vladmir Nerf'm Make 'em take up 1/4'th of the cap or 1/4'th of the armor or something fun?
so to get it balanced the warp scramblers need to take 50% cap and 50% armour then right?
warp scramblers scramble at strength 2 and there is no warp core stabs that has strenght 2 yet. so it seems to me that if anything needs nerfing its the scramblers. but i guess pirates dont want to worl for it they just want all defenseless battleships with no guns sitting infront of them filled with megacyte and zydrine in the cargo.
you can fit a warp scrambling strenght of 16 on a scorpion and a geddon can at most have stabs for strenght 8 so either work harder or just go away.
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Xendie
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Posted - 2004.12.07 10:50:00 -
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Originally by: Jane Vladmir Nerf'm Make 'em take up 1/4'th of the cap or 1/4'th of the armor or something fun?
so to get it balanced the warp scramblers need to take 50% cap and 50% armour then right?
warp scramblers scramble at strength 2 and there is no warp core stabs that has strenght 2 yet. so it seems to me that if anything needs nerfing its the scramblers. but i guess pirates dont want to worl for it they just want all defenseless battleships with no guns sitting infront of them filled with megacyte and zydrine in the cargo.
you can fit a warp scrambling strenght of 16 on a scorpion and a geddon can at most have stabs for strenght 8 so either work harder or just go away.
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Pandora Panda
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Posted - 2004.12.07 10:53:00 -
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Edited by: Pandora Panda on 07/12/2004 10:55:30
Originally by: Xendie you can fit a warp scrambling strenght of 16 on a scorpion and a geddon can at most have stabs for strenght 8 so either work harder or just go away.
This would be only slightly idiotic if scramblers had infinate range. Since they are (very)range-limited, it is one of the dumbest things ever said. -------------------------------------------- CONCORD: Kneecapping Pilots for Misdemeanors Since 2003 |
Pandora Panda
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Posted - 2004.12.07 10:53:00 -
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Edited by: Pandora Panda on 07/12/2004 10:55:30
Originally by: Xendie you can fit a warp scrambling strenght of 16 on a scorpion and a geddon can at most have stabs for strenght 8 so either work harder or just go away.
This would be only slightly idiotic if scramblers had infinate range. Since they are (very)range-limited, it is one of the dumbest things ever said. -------------------------------------------- CONCORD: Kneecapping Pilots for Misdemeanors Since 2003 |
Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2004.12.07 11:14:00 -
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Would you like some cheese with your whine?
OMGOMGOMGOMG WE CANT KILL EVERY LAST PERSON WHO COMES TO OUR BLOCKADE OMGOMGOMG!!!!!111ONEONEONEOEN!!!1!!1! SOMEONE GOT PAST BECAUSE WERE NUBS BUT WELL JUST WHINE INSTEAD LOLOLORFL! -- The best description of alliances, ever:
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2004.12.07 11:14:00 -
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Would you like some cheese with your whine?
OMGOMGOMGOMG WE CANT KILL EVERY LAST PERSON WHO COMES TO OUR BLOCKADE OMGOMGOMG!!!!!111ONEONEONEOEN!!!1!!1! SOMEONE GOT PAST BECAUSE WERE NUBS BUT WELL JUST WHINE INSTEAD LOLOLORFL! -- The best description of alliances, ever:
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Sleazy Cabbie
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Posted - 2004.12.07 11:21:00 -
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If they implement a WCS nerf, they're gonna have to code in an "I win" button with skull and crossbones on it.
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Sleazy Cabbie
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Posted - 2004.12.07 11:21:00 -
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If they implement a WCS nerf, they're gonna have to code in an "I win" button with skull and crossbones on it.
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RedClaws
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Posted - 2004.12.07 11:26:00 -
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haha nono wcs are good right now : if you outfit an arma with 8 wcs (and thus useless for anything else but traveling) you should have a fairly good chance of running a smaller blockade.
Btw : nothing like going through one parying "omg! i hope they don't have enough scramblers!" and going "YES BABY!!!" when it warps.
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RedClaws
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Posted - 2004.12.07 11:26:00 -
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haha nono wcs are good right now : if you outfit an arma with 8 wcs (and thus useless for anything else but traveling) you should have a fairly good chance of running a smaller blockade.
Btw : nothing like going through one parying "omg! i hope they don't have enough scramblers!" and going "YES BABY!!!" when it warps.
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.12.07 11:30:00 -
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Edited by: Viceroy on 07/12/2004 11:40:42
Originally by: Xendie
warp scramblers scramble at strength 2 and there is no warp core stabs that has strenght 2 yet.
Yes there is.
edit: fixy. damn you dbp. -
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.12.07 11:30:00 -
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Edited by: Viceroy on 07/12/2004 11:40:42
Originally by: Xendie
warp scramblers scramble at strength 2 and there is no warp core stabs that has strenght 2 yet.
Yes there is.
edit: fixy. damn you dbp. -
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.12.07 11:33:00 -
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Angelfire piccy no worky viceroy.
But yeah, Viceroy has some uber warp core stab he got from an event.
How useful that a dastardly pierat should get it just to mock all the carebears by not using it.
dbp
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.12.07 11:33:00 -
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Angelfire piccy no worky viceroy.
But yeah, Viceroy has some uber warp core stab he got from an event.
How useful that a dastardly pierat should get it just to mock all the carebears by not using it.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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hired goon
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Posted - 2004.12.07 11:36:00 -
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Perhaps we should just nerf warping, that'll learn those carebears! ------------
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hired goon
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Posted - 2004.12.07 11:36:00 -
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Perhaps we should just nerf warping, that'll learn those carebears! ------------
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Pandora Panda
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Posted - 2004.12.07 11:37:00 -
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Edited by: Pandora Panda on 07/12/2004 11:39:50
Originally by: Pandora Panda How? Once tech2 scramblers and WCS are released, it'll take 3 tech2 WCS to cancel out 2 tech2 warp scramblers.
If I'm not mistaken, thats making them even more effective, an arma with 8 WCS IIs will require 6 scrambler IIs instead of 5.
This is an example of using actual facts and numbers from within the game to make a point. Originally by: Sleazy Cabbie If they implement a WCS nerf, they're gonna have to code in an "I win" button with skull and crossbones on it.
This is an example of being an idiotic ****head and providing no useful information of any kind, while taking because you think the crap you're excreting is actually valuable in any way.
Don't be that guy. Nobody likes that guy. -------------------------------------------- CONCORD: Kneecapping Pilots for Misdemeanors Since 2003 |
Pandora Panda
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Posted - 2004.12.07 11:37:00 -
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Edited by: Pandora Panda on 07/12/2004 11:39:50
Originally by: Pandora Panda How? Once tech2 scramblers and WCS are released, it'll take 3 tech2 WCS to cancel out 2 tech2 warp scramblers.
If I'm not mistaken, thats making them even more effective, an arma with 8 WCS IIs will require 6 scrambler IIs instead of 5.
This is an example of using actual facts and numbers from within the game to make a point. Originally by: Sleazy Cabbie If they implement a WCS nerf, they're gonna have to code in an "I win" button with skull and crossbones on it.
This is an example of being an idiotic ****head and providing no useful information of any kind, while taking because you think the crap you're excreting is actually valuable in any way.
Don't be that guy. Nobody likes that guy. -------------------------------------------- CONCORD: Kneecapping Pilots for Misdemeanors Since 2003 |
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hired goon
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Posted - 2004.12.07 12:02:00 -
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Edited by: hired goon on 07/12/2004 12:05:15 ^ That's an example of a troll. ------------
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hired goon
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Posted - 2004.12.07 12:02:00 -
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Edited by: hired goon on 07/12/2004 12:05:15 ^ That's an example of a troll. ------------
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Pandora Panda
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Posted - 2004.12.07 12:03:00 -
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Originally by: hired goon ^ That's am example of a troll.
Odd. I can say the same thing. -------------------------------------------- CONCORD: Kneecapping Pilots for Misdemeanors Since 2003 |
Pandora Panda
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Posted - 2004.12.07 12:03:00 -
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Originally by: hired goon ^ That's am example of a troll.
Odd. I can say the same thing. -------------------------------------------- CONCORD: Kneecapping Pilots for Misdemeanors Since 2003 |
Myal Terego
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Posted - 2004.12.07 12:18:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher
How useful that a dastardly pierat should get it just to mock all the carebears by not using it. dbp
that just made my day.
But seriously, the situation is pretty ridiculous at the moment. And something should be done, the game is getting boring like this. Maybe a possible solution would be a max amount of 4 stabs on a ship so all races have the equal possibility to get away for starters.
And before you start shouting "another pirate scum, who wants easy ganks" , yes it should work the other way around too... So a max scrambling strenght of -4 per ship. This sound fair? one ship would always still be able to get away from another one, yet the teamplay oriented players would benefit. Atm, you need multiple scrambling ships to make a single ship stay, and then ppl complain about how it was a gank.
Ok next argument, the mobil disruptors? The ones that still are bugged with ppl warping straight thru them... So unless you are prepared to sacrifice 4 medium ones at the jump in, and if so is the case, you better belive there will be enough ppl there to defend them. in other words, ganking again...
Now maybe there is a better solution out there, if so, im all for it. Just make it possible to stop ppl without such a massive amount of trouble it is at the moment, it only leads to more ganking. Now i can still deal with all this trouble, heck if i want to move a battleship, i know that im 99% safe from all ppl who want to stop me, and this without any effort at all.. I just find that rather silly.
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Myal Terego
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Posted - 2004.12.07 12:18:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher
How useful that a dastardly pierat should get it just to mock all the carebears by not using it. dbp
that just made my day.
But seriously, the situation is pretty ridiculous at the moment. And something should be done, the game is getting boring like this. Maybe a possible solution would be a max amount of 4 stabs on a ship so all races have the equal possibility to get away for starters.
And before you start shouting "another pirate scum, who wants easy ganks" , yes it should work the other way around too... So a max scrambling strenght of -4 per ship. This sound fair? one ship would always still be able to get away from another one, yet the teamplay oriented players would benefit. Atm, you need multiple scrambling ships to make a single ship stay, and then ppl complain about how it was a gank.
Ok next argument, the mobil disruptors? The ones that still are bugged with ppl warping straight thru them... So unless you are prepared to sacrifice 4 medium ones at the jump in, and if so is the case, you better belive there will be enough ppl there to defend them. in other words, ganking again...
Now maybe there is a better solution out there, if so, im all for it. Just make it possible to stop ppl without such a massive amount of trouble it is at the moment, it only leads to more ganking. Now i can still deal with all this trouble, heck if i want to move a battleship, i know that im 99% safe from all ppl who want to stop me, and this without any effort at all.. I just find that rather silly.
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Xendie
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Posted - 2004.12.07 12:20:00 -
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the tech2 stabs and scramblers are not available yet ingame or has there been any recent change in the last days?
they are viewable on the market interface but no one got them.
if you make a change to the wcs you equally ahve to change the scramblers also. if you cannot catch ships then maybe you should get a few more friends with frigates and more warp scramblers to catch.
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Xendie
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Posted - 2004.12.07 12:20:00 -
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the tech2 stabs and scramblers are not available yet ingame or has there been any recent change in the last days?
they are viewable on the market interface but no one got them.
if you make a change to the wcs you equally ahve to change the scramblers also. if you cannot catch ships then maybe you should get a few more friends with frigates and more warp scramblers to catch.
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Myal Terego
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Posted - 2004.12.07 12:23:00 -
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Originally by: Xendie if you cannot catch ships then maybe you should get a few more friends with frigates and more warp scramblers to catch.
Well thats exactly the point, youre saying you want 5v1 ganks just because theres no other way to stop one player? [center] http://213.142.66.138/~nervar/myalb.jpg |
Myal Terego
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Posted - 2004.12.07 12:23:00 -
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Originally by: Xendie if you cannot catch ships then maybe you should get a few more friends with frigates and more warp scramblers to catch.
Well thats exactly the point, youre saying you want 5v1 ganks just because theres no other way to stop one player? [center] http://213.142.66.138/~nervar/myalb.jpg |
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.12.07 12:26:00 -
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Originally by: Xendie the tech2 stabs and scramblers are not available yet ingame or has there been any recent change in the last days?
they are viewable on the market interface but no one got them.
I have one, would you like to buy it? -
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.12.07 12:26:00 -
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Originally by: Xendie the tech2 stabs and scramblers are not available yet ingame or has there been any recent change in the last days?
they are viewable on the market interface but no one got them.
I have one, would you like to buy it? -
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MrMorph
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Posted - 2004.12.07 12:45:00 -
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People is suppose to have a chance to get away, I would actually rather see that BS' and larger ships get a bonus that makes them easier to anti-scramble.
Frigs r suppose to be fast and evasive anyways, so they should go for the same as always. Frigs that dont get out of a camp, either have stupid pilots, or is seriously lagged, in wich case they should get a better connection.
Interceptors r by far to good, they should have a activation penalty for scramblers. Nothing much, perhaps a second after lock or so. Not even instawarping pods have a chance in hell with them as pods lag 2 sec b4 u even can press warp after beeing blown up.
Warpscramlers should also apply to range, the bigger the ship, the longer the range. Bs could scramble bs at 35km range i.e
Just some toughts :)
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MrMorph
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Posted - 2004.12.07 12:45:00 -
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People is suppose to have a chance to get away, I would actually rather see that BS' and larger ships get a bonus that makes them easier to anti-scramble.
Frigs r suppose to be fast and evasive anyways, so they should go for the same as always. Frigs that dont get out of a camp, either have stupid pilots, or is seriously lagged, in wich case they should get a better connection.
Interceptors r by far to good, they should have a activation penalty for scramblers. Nothing much, perhaps a second after lock or so. Not even instawarping pods have a chance in hell with them as pods lag 2 sec b4 u even can press warp after beeing blown up.
Warpscramlers should also apply to range, the bigger the ship, the longer the range. Bs could scramble bs at 35km range i.e
Just some toughts :)
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Stetu
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Posted - 2004.12.07 12:55:00 -
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WTB WCS II!!! Please Eve Mail me if you can get me some. WTS STFU for those of you that whine about the fact that you can't catch every freaking person on earth!!!!!
Love,
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Stetu
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Posted - 2004.12.07 12:55:00 -
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WTB WCS II!!! Please Eve Mail me if you can get me some. WTS STFU for those of you that whine about the fact that you can't catch every freaking person on earth!!!!!
Love,
Stetu ----------------------
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MrMorph
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Posted - 2004.12.07 13:03:00 -
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Originally by: Stetu WTB WCS II!!! Please Eve Mail me if you can get me some. WTS STFU for those of you that whine about the fact that you can't catch every freaking person on earth!!!!!
Love,
Stetu
I'll have 10 giant secure cans of those STFUs, as whining is beginning to be a sport in these forums. Every move ccp makes, makes somebody whine, either it e pirates, carebears, miners, agent-runners, ****ers and u name it.
Its a virtual world, everything aint perfect, and **** changes. Get use to it ffs !
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MrMorph
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Posted - 2004.12.07 13:03:00 -
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Originally by: Stetu WTB WCS II!!! Please Eve Mail me if you can get me some. WTS STFU for those of you that whine about the fact that you can't catch every freaking person on earth!!!!!
Love,
Stetu
I'll have 10 giant secure cans of those STFUs, as whining is beginning to be a sport in these forums. Every move ccp makes, makes somebody whine, either it e pirates, carebears, miners, agent-runners, ****ers and u name it.
Its a virtual world, everything aint perfect, and **** changes. Get use to it ffs !
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Dezzyb0y
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Posted - 2004.12.07 13:15:00 -
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Edited by: Dezzyb0y on 07/12/2004 13:18:59 We all know the people that dont wanna get caught are the carebears who dont want to get caught while taking 200mils worth of mins thro empire on insta jumps to be suddenly jumped by some ebil pirate in a 0.4 or someone their at war with anywhere along the way.
Sadly theres more carebears like this in the game than there is pirates/pvpers so CCP have to look after the larger majority and say "yes we'll make you invinsible to less than 5players" Do as lifewire once said when i moaned about this fit a raven with 5warp core stabs warp into a fleet blow some **** up n run away again. Loadsa fun
Anyway till ccp realise that there is something slightly wrong with these. Jack ****s gonna happen. Oh and that guy that said tech 2 scramblers are going to "kind of nerf" it thats rubbish because tech 2 stabs counter that dont they... man somepeople really arnt very clever.
[EDIT] Mr morph you mentioned a second delay on locking stuff... there already is a delay from locking stuff in a ceptor. Dont think its intended but its there. -----------------------
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Dezzyb0y
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Posted - 2004.12.07 13:15:00 -
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Edited by: Dezzyb0y on 07/12/2004 13:18:59 We all know the people that dont wanna get caught are the carebears who dont want to get caught while taking 200mils worth of mins thro empire on insta jumps to be suddenly jumped by some ebil pirate in a 0.4 or someone their at war with anywhere along the way.
Sadly theres more carebears like this in the game than there is pirates/pvpers so CCP have to look after the larger majority and say "yes we'll make you invinsible to less than 5players" Do as lifewire once said when i moaned about this fit a raven with 5warp core stabs warp into a fleet blow some **** up n run away again. Loadsa fun
Anyway till ccp realise that there is something slightly wrong with these. Jack ****s gonna happen. Oh and that guy that said tech 2 scramblers are going to "kind of nerf" it thats rubbish because tech 2 stabs counter that dont they... man somepeople really arnt very clever.
[EDIT] Mr morph you mentioned a second delay on locking stuff... there already is a delay from locking stuff in a ceptor. Dont think its intended but its there. -----------------------
K4rls 1400mm Howitzer Artillery I perfectly strikes Republic Fleet Testing Facilities, wrecking for 1395.9 damage
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Jane Vladmir
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Posted - 2004.12.07 13:25:00 -
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What I gathered from reading this is: Idiots wanted stabs to stay the way they are, that meaning that you don't need any escort if you're moving something valuable, you just need a whole rack of wcs's. The rest wanted some kind of change. What I'm saying is that you can actually fit a 'decent' setup WITH stabs on, that shouldn't be possible. Armored Assassins use 2 warp cores on their sentry tanking scorps, why? Because they can and it overpowers fair fights which they try to avoid, for the sake of the low income of pirates. Slam a nice -25% cap or -25% locking range/time, or a -25% agility and velocity. Just hit them hard.
And yeah, don't give me that "JUST USE MORE WARP SCRAMBLÍRS LOL!!!1", why? Cause it's hard enough to keep players within warp scramble range and still win the fight.
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Jane Vladmir
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Posted - 2004.12.07 13:25:00 -
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What I gathered from reading this is: Idiots wanted stabs to stay the way they are, that meaning that you don't need any escort if you're moving something valuable, you just need a whole rack of wcs's. The rest wanted some kind of change. What I'm saying is that you can actually fit a 'decent' setup WITH stabs on, that shouldn't be possible. Armored Assassins use 2 warp cores on their sentry tanking scorps, why? Because they can and it overpowers fair fights which they try to avoid, for the sake of the low income of pirates. Slam a nice -25% cap or -25% locking range/time, or a -25% agility and velocity. Just hit them hard.
And yeah, don't give me that "JUST USE MORE WARP SCRAMBLÍRS LOL!!!1", why? Cause it's hard enough to keep players within warp scramble range and still win the fight.
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hired goon
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Posted - 2004.12.07 14:26:00 -
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Originally by: MrMorph
Originally by: Stetu WTB WCS II!!! Please Eve Mail me if you can get me some. WTS STFU for those of you that whine about the fact that you can't catch every freaking person on earth!!!!!
Love,
Stetu
I'll have 10 giant secure cans of those STFUs, as whining is beginning to be a sport in these forums. Every move ccp makes, makes somebody whine, either it e pirates, carebears, miners, agent-runners, ****ers and u name it.
Its a virtual world, everything aint perfect, and **** changes. Get use to it ffs !
Whining about whining is good and ironic. ------------
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hired goon
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Posted - 2004.12.07 14:26:00 -
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Originally by: MrMorph
Originally by: Stetu WTB WCS II!!! Please Eve Mail me if you can get me some. WTS STFU for those of you that whine about the fact that you can't catch every freaking person on earth!!!!!
Love,
Stetu
I'll have 10 giant secure cans of those STFUs, as whining is beginning to be a sport in these forums. Every move ccp makes, makes somebody whine, either it e pirates, carebears, miners, agent-runners, ****ers and u name it.
Its a virtual world, everything aint perfect, and **** changes. Get use to it ffs !
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hired goon
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Posted - 2004.12.07 14:32:00 -
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Originally by: Dezzyb0y Sadly theres more carebears like this in the game than there is pirates/pvpers so CCP have to look after the larger majority
Because of course, we all know they could and should build the success of the game around pleasing the minority. Yep, Dezzy you're a genius!
Originally by: Jane Vladmir Idiots wanted stabs to stay the way they are
No, idiots apply blanket-insults to the other side of the argument when they know theirs is wrong. ------------
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hired goon
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Posted - 2004.12.07 14:32:00 -
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Originally by: Dezzyb0y Sadly theres more carebears like this in the game than there is pirates/pvpers so CCP have to look after the larger majority
Because of course, we all know they could and should build the success of the game around pleasing the minority. Yep, Dezzy you're a genius!
Originally by: Jane Vladmir Idiots wanted stabs to stay the way they are
No, idiots apply blanket-insults to the other side of the argument when they know theirs is wrong. ------------
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will9anthony
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Posted - 2004.12.07 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: Jane Vladmir What I gathered from reading this is: Idiots wanted stabs to stay the way they are, that meaning that you don't need any escort if you're moving something valuable, you just need a whole rack of wcs's. The rest wanted some kind of change. What I'm saying is that you can actually fit a 'decent' setup WITH stabs on, that shouldn't be possible. Armored Assassins use 2 warp cores on their sentry tanking scorps, why? Because they can and it overpowers fair fights which they try to avoid, for the sake of the low income of pirates. Slam a nice -25% cap or -25% locking range/time, or a -25% agility and velocity. Just hit them hard.
And yeah, don't give me that "JUST USE MORE WARP SCRAMBLÍRS LOL!!!1", why? Cause it's hard enough to keep players within warp scramble range and still win the fight.
why did u go and have to get personal like that for? when the -ass- folk that gate camp do it and fit stabs it because maybe JUST MAYBE they dont want one wee little interceptor to be able to get the sentries to gank them... or just MAYBE just MAYBE they want to warp to a planet and engage there were the fight is a little closer to being fair
gate campers have to deal with a whole load of ******* who think its a fair fight to come over in pvp gear and really just sit there and let the sentries do the work... and then be all like WOO we wtf pwned you... when in reality u killed someone not setup for pvp and the sentries did 99.9% of the dmg
now ofcourse these same people who come in there pvp ships run the **** away when any of the -ass- come back with pvp gear (not speaking of you but this has happened dozens of times)
and incase you didnt notice alot of ships CANT have a "good" setup while still equiping warp stabs most people drop there stabs when they go into 0.0 I am back |
will9anthony
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Posted - 2004.12.07 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: Jane Vladmir What I gathered from reading this is: Idiots wanted stabs to stay the way they are, that meaning that you don't need any escort if you're moving something valuable, you just need a whole rack of wcs's. The rest wanted some kind of change. What I'm saying is that you can actually fit a 'decent' setup WITH stabs on, that shouldn't be possible. Armored Assassins use 2 warp cores on their sentry tanking scorps, why? Because they can and it overpowers fair fights which they try to avoid, for the sake of the low income of pirates. Slam a nice -25% cap or -25% locking range/time, or a -25% agility and velocity. Just hit them hard.
And yeah, don't give me that "JUST USE MORE WARP SCRAMBLÍRS LOL!!!1", why? Cause it's hard enough to keep players within warp scramble range and still win the fight.
why did u go and have to get personal like that for? when the -ass- folk that gate camp do it and fit stabs it because maybe JUST MAYBE they dont want one wee little interceptor to be able to get the sentries to gank them... or just MAYBE just MAYBE they want to warp to a planet and engage there were the fight is a little closer to being fair
gate campers have to deal with a whole load of ******* who think its a fair fight to come over in pvp gear and really just sit there and let the sentries do the work... and then be all like WOO we wtf pwned you... when in reality u killed someone not setup for pvp and the sentries did 99.9% of the dmg
now ofcourse these same people who come in there pvp ships run the **** away when any of the -ass- come back with pvp gear (not speaking of you but this has happened dozens of times)
and incase you didnt notice alot of ships CANT have a "good" setup while still equiping warp stabs most people drop there stabs when they go into 0.0 I am back |
MrMorph
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Posted - 2004.12.07 17:28:00 -
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Originally by: hired goon
Originally by: Dezzyb0y Sadly theres more carebears like this in the game than there is pirates/pvpers so CCP have to look after the larger majority
Because of course, we all know they could and should build the success of the game around pleasing the minority. Yep, Dezzy you're a genius!
Originally by: Jane Vladmir Idiots wanted stabs to stay the way they are
No, idiots apply blanket-insults to the other side of the argument when they know theirs is wrong.
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MrMorph
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Posted - 2004.12.07 17:28:00 -
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Originally by: hired goon
Originally by: Dezzyb0y Sadly theres more carebears like this in the game than there is pirates/pvpers so CCP have to look after the larger majority
Because of course, we all know they could and should build the success of the game around pleasing the minority. Yep, Dezzy you're a genius!
Originally by: Jane Vladmir Idiots wanted stabs to stay the way they are
No, idiots apply blanket-insults to the other side of the argument when they know theirs is wrong.
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Xtro 2
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Posted - 2004.12.07 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: Viceroy Edited by: Viceroy on 07/12/2004 11:40:42
Originally by: Xendie
warp scramblers scramble at strength 2 and there is no warp core stabs that has strenght 2 yet.
Yes there is.
edit: fixy. damn you dbp.
Nice, btw that has to be 1 of the uglyest window/background colour combinations ive seen to date
Never used stabs myself like, if i ever found id need stabs to go somewhere, chances are thats a place i really dont wish to visit with stabs fitted or not. __________________________________________
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Xtro 2
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Posted - 2004.12.07 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: Viceroy Edited by: Viceroy on 07/12/2004 11:40:42
Originally by: Xendie
warp scramblers scramble at strength 2 and there is no warp core stabs that has strenght 2 yet.
Yes there is.
edit: fixy. damn you dbp.
Nice, btw that has to be 1 of the uglyest window/background colour combinations ive seen to date
Never used stabs myself like, if i ever found id need stabs to go somewhere, chances are thats a place i really dont wish to visit with stabs fitted or not. __________________________________________
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Nyk0n
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Posted - 2004.12.07 23:00:00 -
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Quote: We all know the people that dont wanna get caught are the carebears who dont want to get caught while taking 200mils worth of mins thro empire on insta jumps to be suddenly jumped by some ebil pirate in a 0.4 or someone their at war with anywhere along the way.
Well thats kinda obvious, maybe ud prefer them to just self destruct when they see u? oh no theres a delay on that now cos it kills ur loot. Me wonders why they did that??
Quote: Sadly theres more carebears like this in the game than there is pirates/pvpers so CCP have to look after the larger majority and say "yes we'll make you invinsible to less than 5players" Do as lifewire once said when i moaned about this fit a raven with 5warp core stabs warp into a fleet blow some **** up n run away again.
No1. When do u stop bein a pirate and start becomeing a "why cant i kill anything" carebear urself?
No2. Dont confuse pvpers with gankers The real pirates of eve are long gone (with the exception of MAYBE tundragon and the odd small group here and there)
The b all and end all is no matter wot ccp nerf cos gankers whine, peeps adapt and u cant catch them
Take a look at how corps like SPVD ust to operate, they ust to PIRATE, by working 4 the kill, or maybe ud prefer there to be a 2 minute delay where u have to sit next to the gate at a dead stop b4 u can jump, during which time all damage goes straight to hull |
Nyk0n
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Posted - 2004.12.07 23:00:00 -
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Quote: We all know the people that dont wanna get caught are the carebears who dont want to get caught while taking 200mils worth of mins thro empire on insta jumps to be suddenly jumped by some ebil pirate in a 0.4 or someone their at war with anywhere along the way.
Well thats kinda obvious, maybe ud prefer them to just self destruct when they see u? oh no theres a delay on that now cos it kills ur loot. Me wonders why they did that??
Quote: Sadly theres more carebears like this in the game than there is pirates/pvpers so CCP have to look after the larger majority and say "yes we'll make you invinsible to less than 5players" Do as lifewire once said when i moaned about this fit a raven with 5warp core stabs warp into a fleet blow some **** up n run away again.
No1. When do u stop bein a pirate and start becomeing a "why cant i kill anything" carebear urself?
No2. Dont confuse pvpers with gankers The real pirates of eve are long gone (with the exception of MAYBE tundragon and the odd small group here and there)
The b all and end all is no matter wot ccp nerf cos gankers whine, peeps adapt and u cant catch them
Take a look at how corps like SPVD ust to operate, they ust to PIRATE, by working 4 the kill, or maybe ud prefer there to be a 2 minute delay where u have to sit next to the gate at a dead stop b4 u can jump, during which time all damage goes straight to hull |
Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2004.12.07 23:43:00 -
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Originally by: MrMorph
Interceptors r by far to good, they should have a activation penalty for scramblers. Nothing much, perhaps a second after lock or so.
So you think that the ship class that is specifically meant for catching other ships should have a penalty for warp scrambling?
Originally by: DB Preacher
Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
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Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2004.12.07 23:43:00 -
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Originally by: MrMorph
Interceptors r by far to good, they should have a activation penalty for scramblers. Nothing much, perhaps a second after lock or so.
So you think that the ship class that is specifically meant for catching other ships should have a penalty for warp scrambling?
Originally by: DB Preacher
Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
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Stetu
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Posted - 2004.12.08 00:16:00 -
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Look guys here's the reason why WCS will be around. CAREBEARS <3 WCS so they can transport their mins. CCP Loves people who pay subscription (i.e. players). If they **** a big group off, they won't be gettin' as many subscriptions. So, **** the carebears off (Larger percentage of Carebizzles), then you lose more subscriptions. Therefore, nerf stabs = less carebears = less money = NO WCS NERF!!
Stetu logic = teh bombzor. Oh and don't take away stabs because they're the brightest module in eve.
Oh and stop crying about how you want to turn them into microwarp drives, they already tear up my cpu pretty hard.
Oh, and i still want to buy like 50 wcs II.
Convo me/mail me/eve mail me/yell at me if you got some. ----------------------
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Stetu
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Posted - 2004.12.08 00:16:00 -
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Look guys here's the reason why WCS will be around. CAREBEARS <3 WCS so they can transport their mins. CCP Loves people who pay subscription (i.e. players). If they **** a big group off, they won't be gettin' as many subscriptions. So, **** the carebears off (Larger percentage of Carebizzles), then you lose more subscriptions. Therefore, nerf stabs = less carebears = less money = NO WCS NERF!!
Stetu logic = teh bombzor. Oh and don't take away stabs because they're the brightest module in eve.
Oh and stop crying about how you want to turn them into microwarp drives, they already tear up my cpu pretty hard.
Oh, and i still want to buy like 50 wcs II.
Convo me/mail me/eve mail me/yell at me if you got some. ----------------------
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Sardau Kar
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Posted - 2004.12.08 06:02:00 -
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Pvpers and carebears are like the ying and yang,theres a balance for a reason,and one cant live without the other.If carebears would get griefed in every corner and WC¦s were removed/changed for insane requirements even for a pure running setup(because they surely would get griefed to no end),empire would be a empty spot and 0.0 space would fastly become a battleground with people hiting each other in rookie ships,and only megacorps with its own supplies to replace ship over ship would rule the field.
If you want to catch a ship on cores,then use buddys in frigs/interceptors(even with multiple scramblers) to stop it.
Pvpers PVP,carebears carebear,each one to its own.Its not like carebear is in any way worse than a pvp person,its different.
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Sardau Kar
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Posted - 2004.12.08 06:02:00 -
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Pvpers and carebears are like the ying and yang,theres a balance for a reason,and one cant live without the other.If carebears would get griefed in every corner and WC¦s were removed/changed for insane requirements even for a pure running setup(because they surely would get griefed to no end),empire would be a empty spot and 0.0 space would fastly become a battleground with people hiting each other in rookie ships,and only megacorps with its own supplies to replace ship over ship would rule the field.
If you want to catch a ship on cores,then use buddys in frigs/interceptors(even with multiple scramblers) to stop it.
Pvpers PVP,carebears carebear,each one to its own.Its not like carebear is in any way worse than a pvp person,its different.
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Sardau Kar
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Posted - 2004.12.08 06:09:00 -
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Quote: What I gathered from reading this is:Idiots wanted stabs to stay the way they are
What I gathered from reading your enlightening argument,you should try to be more creative and see beyond a smart/retarded line.So people that disagree with you are idiots,and people that agree are cool,yay.
Its not like you have ever proven to be an erudite. Yeah dont bother answering,I know,Im a ********,right?
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Sardau Kar
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Posted - 2004.12.08 06:09:00 -
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Quote: What I gathered from reading this is:Idiots wanted stabs to stay the way they are
What I gathered from reading your enlightening argument,you should try to be more creative and see beyond a smart/retarded line.So people that disagree with you are idiots,and people that agree are cool,yay.
Its not like you have ever proven to be an erudite. Yeah dont bother answering,I know,Im a ********,right?
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Xendie
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Posted - 2004.12.08 11:02:00 -
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Originally by: Viceroy
Originally by: Xendie the tech2 stabs and scramblers are not available yet ingame or has there been any recent change in the last days?
they are viewable on the market interface but no one got them.
I have one, would you like to buy it?
no thnx, i almost never use them anyway.
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Xendie
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Posted - 2004.12.08 11:02:00 -
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Originally by: Viceroy
Originally by: Xendie the tech2 stabs and scramblers are not available yet ingame or has there been any recent change in the last days?
they are viewable on the market interface but no one got them.
I have one, would you like to buy it?
no thnx, i almost never use them anyway.
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Evona Moucrou
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Posted - 2004.12.08 12:18:00 -
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I thought it was possible to use several ships with scramblers to scramble one target ship.
While it is not possible to use serveral ships to strengthen the warp-strength.
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Evona Moucrou
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Posted - 2004.12.08 12:18:00 -
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I thought it was possible to use several ships with scramblers to scramble one target ship.
While it is not possible to use serveral ships to strengthen the warp-strength.
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