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Snot Shot Minmatar Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.19 00:14:00 - [1] As you all know I get a pretty good chuckle reading all the spin that each of you try and put on these wars, how they were won/lost, and what the fall out will be. Its actually pretty interesting to see how hard the NC and PL work the forum spin attempting with each post to drive a wedge between the SC Alliances.... Its subtle, and probably missed by most, but the sysops push is on with each post: "Atlas was used by IT and treated badly"... "The NC will support Atlas when they go to war against IT"... "Bobby had the guts to stand up to Molle".. "Props to Bobby for being honest"... "IT is the reason the war failed and Molle is to blame!!"... "Molle threatened Atlas and -A- so we should all help them destroy IT!!"... "Atlas is our new BFF and we should defend their honour!!"... And on and on it goes trying to plant the seed of deceit in the SC Alliances heads......pretty weak NC, pretty weak... The war was lost when the "5 Teams" did not show up together plain and simple. IT was burned out fighting all of the NC for a month while -A- was burned out taking Providence down. WTF Atlas was doing the whole time no ones knows but I guess its true that once one thing goes wrong Bobby blames everyone else and runs back home with his toys.... Let's be honest here, the game is f'd and at this point the only style of fighting that it supports is the **** that PL does. Small groups of about 100 picking fights with weaker groups, hot dropping, or blowing stuff up when no one is around. If the SC wanted some good PvP balance they would: * Keep X-7, Aunenen, Obe etc, fully stocked with ships and such. * Jump clones at their respective stations * Have planned events together where they all jump up there a couple weekends a month for some fun and see who can achieve an objective in their designated target systems....or something along those lines. While back at home the SC should have a rotating schedule each day/week as to who is responsible for tracking and hunting down PL and wiping them out again. PL needs to be kept guessing as to who is after them instead of who should they go after. Fly safe ***gots.... Just Sayin.... Dr. Shot BAM!! HEAD SHOT!!!
Prissa Amarr The Unknown Bar and Pub Elysium Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.19 00:29:00 - [2] It's true that wars are won or lost on CAOD and the SC urgently needs better propaganda, so only question is who will step up and take on this (presumably) well paid role? Snot Shot has made an obvious play for the job but I'm waiting to see who else steps forward (do NOT rule out CARY).
PIMPerian Amarr In for the Kill Scooty Puff Junior Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.19 00:30:00 - [3] Snot Shot, hard blow for ya, aint it ? PLEASE PLEASE KSC, DONT GIVE UP YET!! WHAAAAMBULAAAANCE !!!
Imigo Montoya Gallente THE INSURGENCY DEFI4NT	Posted - 2010.05.19 00:42:00 - [4] Originally by: Snot Shot WTF Atlas was doing the whole time no ones knows I don't know where you were during this war (dare I guess Jita?), but what I saw in and around Tribute was mainly Atlas pilots. And as for IT burning out fighting for a month, I seem to recall the IT pep rally speech saying to expect this to go on for 6 months to a year. I'd like to know what IT have to say about your analysis that they were burned out in 1/6th to 1/12th of the time they were supposed to be prepared for. If you would like to comment on recent Sov wars, perhaps you should participate in one.
Facepalm Amarr Battlestars Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.05.19 00:59:00 - [5] What possible bearing do you think your opinion has on us Jita boy?
Cybarite Gallente YARRRDIES Inc.	Posted - 2010.05.19 01:14:00 - [6] Originally by: Imigo Montoya Originally by: Snot Shot WTF Atlas was doing the whole time no ones knows I don't know where you were during this war (dare I guess Jita?), but what I saw in and around Tribute was mainly Atlas pilots. And as for IT burning out fighting for a month, I seem to recall the IT pep rally speech saying to expect this to go on for 6 months to a year. I'd like to know what IT have to say about your analysis that they were burned out in 1/6th to 1/12th of the time they were supposed to be prepared for. If you would like to comment on recent Sov wars, perhaps you should participate in one. well molle probably overestimated his pilots, I'd believe that kind of rhetoric if we were talking about the 4 original BoB corps but lets be honest, they've padded their numbers with a lot of pet corps. It takes more than just good alliance level leadership (and I'm not saying IT has good alliance level leadership.) To sustain the kind of effort that a major campaign takes. In large part the battle to maintain moral takes place within individual corporations, and I don't think all of IT's corps have the same level of internal organization or moral. Snot Shot does have a point though (amazingly enough), the SC came at the NC haphazard and piecemeal, allowing the NC to use superior cohesion to good effect. Overall I don't think Atlas or -A- is particularly interested in taking out the NC, I don't think Molle's blood feud is a good enough reason for them to engage in that kind of conflict, they've got easier fights closer at hand to play with, and I seriously doubt they want the territory up north, which is another problem with this whole thing. Even if the SC had won I doubt they would have been able to control the north or would even bother trying, and the NC would have just reconstituted itself just like it's done before. I love seeing ships explode and knowing that someone somewhere is screaming at their computer
Sneetches Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.05.19 01:26:00 - [7] He's always very angry at PL. I'm guessing he was either kicked from PL or got ass****d in a hot drop. He's quite the fanboi don't ya think? I think you'll find Mr Snot, that most of those comments you refer to came well after Mr. Atlas' alliance mail was leaked. Anti spin spin detected. "Madness takes its toll. Please have exact change ready!"
Timyn Caldari Zebra Corp United Front Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.19 01:38:00 - [8] Snot Shot: Breaking out the knee pads and giving IT a rusty trombone so that the rest of the south doesn't have to. Way to take one for the team, champ.
Orar Ironfist Gallente Resonance. RED.OverLord	Posted - 2010.05.19 02:05:00 - [9] Originally by: Timyn Snot Shot: Breaking out the knee pads and giving IT a rusty trombone so that the rest of the south doesn't have to. Way to take one for the team, champ. I hear hes quite good at it, id really like it if maybe IT could pass him around so others can have a go
Malur Fy'Lap Caldari Solar Nexus. OWN Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.19 02:20:00 - [10] Originally by: Snot Shot As you all know I get a pretty good chuckle reading all the spin that each of you try and put on these wars, how they were won/lost, and what the fall out will be. Its actually pretty interesting to see how hard the NC and PL work the forum spin attempting with each post to drive a wedge between the SC Alliances.... Its subtle, and probably missed by most, but the sysops push is on with each post: "Atlas was used by IT and treated badly"... "The NC will support Atlas when they go to war against IT"... "Bobby had the guts to stand up to Molle".. "Props to Bobby for being honest"... "IT is the reason the war failed and Molle is to blame!!"... "Molle threatened Atlas and -A- so we should all help them destroy IT!!"... "Atlas is our new BFF and we should defend their honour!!"... And on and on it goes trying to plant the seed of deceit in the SC Alliances heads......pretty weak NC, pretty weak... The war was lost when the "5 Teams" did not show up together plain and simple. IT was burned out fighting all of the NC for a month while -A- was burned out taking Providence down. WTF Atlas was doing the whole time no ones knows but I guess its true that once one thing goes wrong Bobby blames everyone else and runs back home with his toys.... Let's be honest here, the game is f'd and at this point the only style of fighting that it supports is the **** that PL does. Small groups of about 100 picking fights with weaker groups, hot dropping, or blowing stuff up when no one is around. If the SC wanted some good PvP balance they would: * Keep X-7, Aunenen, Obe etc, fully stocked with ships and such. * Jump clones at their respective stations * Have planned events together where they all jump up there a couple weekends a month for some fun and see who can achieve an objective in their designated target systems....or something along those lines. While back at home the SC should have a rotating schedule each day/week as to who is responsible for tracking and hunting down PL and wiping them out again. PL needs to be kept guessing as to who is after them instead of who should they go after. Fly safe ***gots.... \ That's your strategy for IT having a successful campaign... are you kidding me? Who gave the strategic planning job to the kid with down syndrome. Honestly though, would read again.. A+++ pr0 l337 tactics y0
kra torii Minmatar United Systems Navy Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.05.19 02:41:00 - [11] Originally by: Malur Fy'Lap Who gave the strategic planning job to the kid with down syndrome. As much as I support trolling Snot Shot, there's really no reason to abuse disablement like this. ~~
Snot Shot Minmatar Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.19 03:06:00 - [12] Originally by: Imigo Montoya Originally by: Snot Shot WTF Atlas was doing the whole time no ones knows I don't know where you were during this war (dare I guess Jita?), but what I saw in and around Tribute was mainly Atlas pilots. And as for IT burning out fighting for a month, I seem to recall the IT pep rally speech saying to expect this to go on for 6 months to a year. I'd like to know what IT have to say about your analysis that they were burned out in 1/6th to 1/12th of the time they were supposed to be prepared for. Seems like you just logged in after being in a coma for a couple months hu? Atlas half assed it in Tribute for a week after getting lag-banged, went back home to wait for Bobby to show up, came back 3 weeks later when -A- was done getting thier breath back from the Providence fights, lasted 1 fight and ran back home.....wtf... The speach about 6 months assumed the 5 Teams would be up there for 6 months not 1 slugging it out with the rest stragle in after a month or so..... Honestly I think the attention span of most EVE players to commit to a 6 month push is a crack pipe dream but at the same time I don't think Molle gave a ** about how long it would take. He probably figured; "If I say 2 months and we are up there 2 months and a day we will just read "FAIL" on the forums non-stop........If I say 6 months it's a safe bet the thing won't last close to that time frame win or loose so wtf......6 months it is.." Love them or hate them IT stir up, take big risks (smart or dumb), and are willing to travel to get the fights for their allies and Corps. As for the NC and the ** you all talk, you have done nothing of note in EVE other than defend your space which is the easiest thing to do in this game... As for the guy being obsessed with killing NC.....I think he could not care any less, its a game, you gotta have an enemy to keep people interested and logging in wtf.....personal grudge, obsessed, anyone that belives that has been looking at the inside of their ass to long and the fumes are starting to cause damage.... Bring on the next spin cycle!!! Just Sayin.... Dr. Shot BAM!! HEAD SHOT!!!
Misaki Tanaka Caldari Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2010.05.19 03:41:00 - [13] Originally by: Prissa It's true that wars are won or lost on CAOD and the SC urgently needs better propaganda, Test Alliance Please Ignore takes credit for NCs win then. ----
sodney Minmatar No Limit Productions Looney Toons.	Posted - 2010.05.19 04:54:00 - [14] iirc Atlas was hitting p3en for the early part of the war.
Vladic Ka Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.05.19 04:58:00 - [15] Who needs to spin anything when you post like this? I am loving the new whiney side of you. I smiled as I read this. Must be hard for you to take that it was a 2 front war that beat your 5 front. Did you cry? I bet you alread had a victory post all typed out and worked on for months. Heh.
Maerec Amarr Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2010.05.19 05:32:00 - [16] Buenas tardes amigo Hola, my good friend Cinco de Mayo's on Tuesday And I hoped we'd see each other again You killed my brother last winter You shot him three times in the back In the night I still hear mama weeping Oh mama, still dresses in black I looked at every fiesta For you I wanted to greet Maybe I'd sell you a chicken With poison interlaced with the meat You... you look like my brother Mama loved him the best He was head honcho with the ladies Mama always said he was blessed The village all gathered around him They couldn't believe what they saw I said it was you that had killed him And that I'd find you and upstand the law The people of the village believed me Mama... she wanted revenge I told her I'd see that she was honored I'd find you and put you to death So now... now that I've found you On this such a joyous day I tell you it was me who killed him But the truth I'll nevver have to say Buenas tardes amigo Hola, my good friend Cinco de Mayo's on Tuesday And I hoped we'd see each other again
ElrondMD Caldari The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.05.19 06:00:00 - [17] Edited by: ElrondMD on 19/05/2010 06:00:43 Oh look, another Snot Shot thread with great advice for taking on the NC. Has it ever occurred to you that we enjoyed this campaign, our secret forum warrior plan to split the SC means we have less things to pew tomorrow. I'd rather they stayed together and jumped some more Supers into the north.
Doctor Ungabungas Caldari GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO	Posted - 2010.05.19 06:09:00 - [18] Originally by: Imigo Montoya I don't know where you were during this war Don't mention the war! I mentioned it once, but I think I got away with it.
Fred0 Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.19 06:12:00 - [19] Edited by: Fred0 on 19/05/2010 06:12:25 Originally by: Snot Shot And on and on it goes trying to plant the seed of deceit in the SC Alliances heads......pretty weak NC, pretty weak... Actually, those quotes are pretty honest appraisals. While we like the bad guys to stick together it's pretty clear that this was ****ed up to begin with. You really should allow us to help you. Afterall we just won EVE. I say we but really I mean they. The people that ran the NC during this campaign. --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life"
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.05.19 06:20:00 - [20] That's an awful lot of tears, poor snot shot. --- Witness epic fleet battles in Dominion
Goberth Ludwig Caldari eXceed Inc. HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.05.19 06:28:00 - [21] So cute you even put all the smileys and stuff. - Gob
CATTYS Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.05.19 07:04:00 - [22] looooooool 2 manny nc post here...
Ace Frehley Minmatar Big Shadows Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.19 07:12:00 - [23] what war? I was drinking beer and listen to Dio for the last month....
Hinkledolph Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.05.19 07:19:00 - [24] Originally by: CATTYS looooooool 2 manny nc post here... Thank god we have mighty Cat to balance the scales with awesome usage of smileys. @Snot Shot, are you a Molle's relative or something?
Nynjato Caldari Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2010.05.19 07:20:00 - [25] Snot Shot giving fortune cookie tactical advice on how to take down PL. That's just special. PL shows up in local and you die, fact.
Ventro69 Caldari Manson Family Corcoran State	Posted - 2010.05.19 07:37:00 - [26] Originally by: Ace Frehley what war? I was drinking beer and listen to Dio for the last month.... Shine on RJ Dio. You crazy old rainbow in the dark...
Bfactor Gallente Reikoku IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.19 08:08:00 - [27] Interesting read .....
Falcon Troy Caldari Best Path Inc. Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.19 08:44:00 - [28] Do Privateers still think they're relevant? _____________ Hai.
Sextus Licinius Caldari Phantom Squad Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.19 09:10:00 - [29] ATLAS lost quite a few hundred billions in H-W alone and blame Molle for it, because they were told this is gonna be a walk in the park and believe the strategy was bad. In this moment, ATLAS is considered defeated by the NC being unable to wage war due to isk lost, morale shattered and propaganda, this is how history will see it anyway. Molle's strategy in H-W depended on pilots being able to login and play EVE before the rf timers reach zero which was not possible, so NC/PL blame Molle and ATLAS buy's it. NC realizes that propaganda works like a charm with ATLAS so they try to take it even further by trying to get ATLAS on their side. Is interesting to see how this plays out in the future. "These people that we've wasted today are the finest human beings ever. When we'll rotate back in the world, we gonna miss not having anyone worth shooting... Full Metal Jacket"
Ilene D'over Amarr Tax Free Corporation	Posted - 2010.05.19 09:32:00 - [30] Just keep swallowing, Snotty. You never know, Molle might actually notice your slurping at some point in the future. What is it about people when they keep on forgetting the other abortive attempts at kicking the NC from their region? Has everyone forgotten the last MaxFail campaign? Molle and sycophants held sov in a few sytems for a few weeks then wilted like a man looking at a naked picture of a certain Attorney General. But Molle must be counting this campaign as a victory as he has not personally lost any titans so far. ===== 100th level Black Liquorice Belt exponent in that great Lancastrian Martial Art of Eckythump.

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