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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2004.12.07 11:08:00 -
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Other than smartbombs? They orbit me at about 1-2 times a second and move far faster than any gun in the game can track. Even my missiles miss. Of course I found an easy solution--take off all my guns and cover my Moa with 4 smartbombs (and keep the heavy missiles for other enemies). The instant they get withint range, I slam the smartbombs, and they shatter into oblivion.
But is there any other way? Or do the devs want to revive "smart" bomb use?  -- The best description of alliances, ever:
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2004.12.07 11:08:00 -
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Other than smartbombs? They orbit me at about 1-2 times a second and move far faster than any gun in the game can track. Even my missiles miss. Of course I found an easy solution--take off all my guns and cover my Moa with 4 smartbombs (and keep the heavy missiles for other enemies). The instant they get withint range, I slam the smartbombs, and they shatter into oblivion.
But is there any other way? Or do the devs want to revive "smart" bomb use?  -- The best description of alliances, ever:
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MadGaz
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Posted - 2004.12.07 11:14:00 -
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Webber. Not that you need it that much, medium pulse track them well, kestrel with rockets takes them out fast asewll. You might need better gunnery skills? ------------------------------------------
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MadGaz
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Posted - 2004.12.07 11:14:00 -
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Webber. Not that you need it that much, medium pulse track them well, kestrel with rockets takes them out fast asewll. You might need better gunnery skills? ------------------------------------------
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Yeux Gris
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Posted - 2004.12.07 11:14:00 -
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hahahaha
better gun skills.
I can take them out in my ceptor no problems :)
thats a Crusader

Who let the cows out?! mOo. mOo. mOo.. mOo mOo...!
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Yeux Gris
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Posted - 2004.12.07 11:14:00 -
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hahahaha
better gun skills.
I can take them out in my ceptor no problems :)
thats a Crusader

Who let the cows out?! mOo. mOo. mOo.. mOo mOo...!
WTB 8x 280mm Scout Howies. Will pay 20% more than Naga's current price |

Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2004.12.07 11:15:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 07/12/2004 11:20:02
Originally by: MadGaz Webber. Not that you need it that much, medium pulse track them well, kestrel with rockets takes them out fast asewll. You might need better gunnery skills?
I used small neutron blasters for 2 minutes, not one hit. With a couple tracking computers and lowslot tracking mods. No my gunnery skills aren't that good (i.e. total ****), but if a boosted small neutron can't hit them, not much can...
I tried drones--they get OMGWTFPWNED by the rogue drones. I would try the webber, but IMO the smartbombs are just, well... easier  . I need to take a FRAPS video of one of those 20-drone groups running up to me and just exploding 
How powerful do rogue drones get? Do they get up to battleship-size? If so, webbers might be pretty damn useful  -- The best description of alliances, ever:
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2004.12.07 11:15:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 07/12/2004 11:20:02
Originally by: MadGaz Webber. Not that you need it that much, medium pulse track them well, kestrel with rockets takes them out fast asewll. You might need better gunnery skills?
I used small neutron blasters for 2 minutes, not one hit. With a couple tracking computers and lowslot tracking mods. No my gunnery skills aren't that good (i.e. total ****), but if a boosted small neutron can't hit them, not much can...
I tried drones--they get OMGWTFPWNED by the rogue drones. I would try the webber, but IMO the smartbombs are just, well... easier  . I need to take a FRAPS video of one of those 20-drone groups running up to me and just exploding 
How powerful do rogue drones get? Do they get up to battleship-size? If so, webbers might be pretty damn useful  -- The best description of alliances, ever:
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DeFood
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Posted - 2004.12.07 11:15:00 -
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webbers work... particulary if you have your own drones.
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DeFood
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Posted - 2004.12.07 11:15:00 -
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webbers work... particulary if you have your own drones.
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Evona Moucrou
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Posted - 2004.12.07 11:39:00 -
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Edited by: Evona Moucrou on 07/12/2004 11:43:25 Edited by: Evona Moucrou on 07/12/2004 11:42:22 . You can use the real tiny close-range weapons to hit them.
I now fit three "dual light pulse lasers" on my Maller, and then I could hit the drones ok.
The "gattling pulse lasers" are even tinier, and track better.
For a Moa you could try the light electron blasters, or rocket-launchers, did you try those?
In my opinion you should always fit one rocket-launcher if you have several launcher-hardpoints. Keep the option to use defenders for defense, and rockets to hit small vessels.
*edit*
I see that you tried the biggest of the light blasters. Maybe should really go smaller.
And optinally try running a 'sensor booster' along with them.
*edit2*
Hmm, you should be able to arrange the encounter so that you only get groups of 6 drones at a time.
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Evona Moucrou
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Posted - 2004.12.07 11:39:00 -
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Edited by: Evona Moucrou on 07/12/2004 11:43:25 Edited by: Evona Moucrou on 07/12/2004 11:42:22 . You can use the real tiny close-range weapons to hit them.
I now fit three "dual light pulse lasers" on my Maller, and then I could hit the drones ok.
The "gattling pulse lasers" are even tinier, and track better.
For a Moa you could try the light electron blasters, or rocket-launchers, did you try those?
In my opinion you should always fit one rocket-launcher if you have several launcher-hardpoints. Keep the option to use defenders for defense, and rockets to hit small vessels.
*edit*
I see that you tried the biggest of the light blasters. Maybe should really go smaller.
And optinally try running a 'sensor booster' along with them.
*edit2*
Hmm, you should be able to arrange the encounter so that you only get groups of 6 drones at a time.
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DeFood
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Posted - 2004.12.07 12:25:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
I used small neutron blasters for 2 minutes, not one hit. With a couple tracking computers and lowslot tracking mods. No my gunnery skills aren't that good (i.e. total ****), but if a boosted small neutron can't hit them, not much can...
I tried drones--they get OMGWTFPWNED by the rogue drones. I would try the webber, but IMO the smartbombs are just, well... easier  . I need to take a FRAPS video of one of those 20-drone groups running up to me and just exploding 
How powerful do rogue drones get? Do they get up to battleship-size? If so, webbers might be pretty damn useful 
Light medium or heavy drones? I find light drones are best due to their small size and high speed. Medium and heavy drones are missile bait, and medium drones just dont have the tanking and damage to survive. Your options are really confined to light or heavy. never use medium drones.
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DeFood
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Posted - 2004.12.07 12:25:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
I used small neutron blasters for 2 minutes, not one hit. With a couple tracking computers and lowslot tracking mods. No my gunnery skills aren't that good (i.e. total ****), but if a boosted small neutron can't hit them, not much can...
I tried drones--they get OMGWTFPWNED by the rogue drones. I would try the webber, but IMO the smartbombs are just, well... easier  . I need to take a FRAPS video of one of those 20-drone groups running up to me and just exploding 
How powerful do rogue drones get? Do they get up to battleship-size? If so, webbers might be pretty damn useful 
Light medium or heavy drones? I find light drones are best due to their small size and high speed. Medium and heavy drones are missile bait, and medium drones just dont have the tanking and damage to survive. Your options are really confined to light or heavy. never use medium drones.
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Qax Moraka
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Posted - 2004.12.07 12:54:00 -
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What size smartbombs and what flavour are good for killing the drones? I was wondering how to go about destroying them, I tried one of the 2/10 complexes with rogue drones in them, they came at me all at once, and I could only webbify one of themand hoped the others wouldn't rip my hull to shgreds in the meantime. I have a small plasma and graviton smartbomb that I was alternating in use to see which one was better, though they didnt seem to do much on these "low threat" drones. Could be that I'm just going about it all wrong... hehe 
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Qax Moraka
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Posted - 2004.12.07 12:54:00 -
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What size smartbombs and what flavour are good for killing the drones? I was wondering how to go about destroying them, I tried one of the 2/10 complexes with rogue drones in them, they came at me all at once, and I could only webbify one of themand hoped the others wouldn't rip my hull to shgreds in the meantime. I have a small plasma and graviton smartbomb that I was alternating in use to see which one was better, though they didnt seem to do much on these "low threat" drones. Could be that I'm just going about it all wrong... hehe 
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Bsport
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Posted - 2004.12.07 12:58:00 -
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my kestrel does a good job. with stardard missile, failing that rockets would work --------
|~~~| I run out of money, so bunny has been | OIL | grounded down to make grease for my |____| rifter- poor bunny
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Bsport
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Posted - 2004.12.07 12:58:00 -
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my kestrel does a good job. with stardard missile, failing that rockets would work --------
|~~~| I run out of money, so bunny has been | OIL | grounded down to make grease for my |____| rifter- poor bunny
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Aion Amarra
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Posted - 2004.12.07 13:10:00 -
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I don't know if all the Rogue Drone Complexes are the same, but I rolled up a lvl one with a Coercer single handedly. It wasn't even well tanked. The tracking bonus on the Destroyers work wonders.
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Aion Amarra
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Posted - 2004.12.07 13:10:00 -
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I don't know if all the Rogue Drone Complexes are the same, but I rolled up a lvl one with a Coercer single handedly. It wasn't even well tanked. The tracking bonus on the Destroyers work wonders.
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Phades
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Posted - 2004.12.07 13:29:00 -
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Nah i think he is talking about the Shredder and ripper drones found when performing that saim minn (sp?) mission. If so, those are a whole different animal than those found in drone complexes.
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Phades
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Posted - 2004.12.07 13:29:00 -
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Nah i think he is talking about the Shredder and ripper drones found when performing that saim minn (sp?) mission. If so, those are a whole different animal than those found in drone complexes.
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Illuvitar
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Posted - 2004.12.07 13:44:00 -
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In a 2/10 complex equip yourself with a Afterburner (10mn preferable) and a armour tanked setup, then orbit the 32k cruisers at 2.5km. They can't hit you when you orbit that close. The frigates will hit you but the armour tank setup will repair you well enough.
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Illuvitar
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Posted - 2004.12.07 13:44:00 -
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In a 2/10 complex equip yourself with a Afterburner (10mn preferable) and a armour tanked setup, then orbit the 32k cruisers at 2.5km. They can't hit you when you orbit that close. The frigates will hit you but the armour tank setup will repair you well enough.
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Sarkos
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Posted - 2004.12.07 14:06:00 -
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Originally by: Aion Amarra I don't know if all the Rogue Drone Complexes are the same, but I rolled up a lvl one with a Coercer single handedly. It wasn't even well tanked. The tracking bonus on the Destroyers work wonders.
Agreed. I did a complex in my Thrasher with no problems.
Either free the slaves or we will come and get them.
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Sarkos
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Posted - 2004.12.07 14:06:00 -
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Originally by: Aion Amarra I don't know if all the Rogue Drone Complexes are the same, but I rolled up a lvl one with a Coercer single handedly. It wasn't even well tanked. The tracking bonus on the Destroyers work wonders.
Agreed. I did a complex in my Thrasher with no problems.
Either free the slaves or we will come and get them.
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Cadman Weyland
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Posted - 2004.12.07 14:42:00 -
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Ive done a number of these "dungeons" with my ships. Dual light Pulse or Beams work a treat. Fitted to either my Malediction (pulse) or my tanked Coercer (beams) no problems at all.
In the Inty they barely even hit me and the Coercers rigged to take it.

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Cadman Weyland
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Posted - 2004.12.07 14:42:00 -
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Ive done a number of these "dungeons" with my ships. Dual light Pulse or Beams work a treat. Fitted to either my Malediction (pulse) or my tanked Coercer (beams) no problems at all.
In the Inty they barely even hit me and the Coercers rigged to take it.

Director of Empire Ops and Chief Carebear |

Cadman Weyland
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Posted - 2004.12.07 14:47:00 -
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Originally by: Illuvitar In a 2/10 complex equip yourself with a Afterburner (10mn preferable) and a armour tanked setup, then orbit the 32k cruisers at 2.5km. They can't hit you when you orbit that close. The frigates will hit you but the armour tank setup will repair you well enough.
32K rats in a lvl2 Drone Complex??? ..ive done 5 of em and not seen this guy. The Inty could handle him nps...might be tight in the Coercer mind u. 
Director of Empire Ops and Chief Carebear |

Cadman Weyland
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Posted - 2004.12.07 14:47:00 -
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Originally by: Illuvitar In a 2/10 complex equip yourself with a Afterburner (10mn preferable) and a armour tanked setup, then orbit the 32k cruisers at 2.5km. They can't hit you when you orbit that close. The frigates will hit you but the armour tank setup will repair you well enough.
32K rats in a lvl2 Drone Complex??? ..ive done 5 of em and not seen this guy. The Inty could handle him nps...might be tight in the Coercer mind u. 
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