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CCP Diagoras
C C P Alliance

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Posted - 2010.05.20 11:45:00 -
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Hi,
As I mentioned here, we will not be releasing the list of who won the election until the 26th. This is so that we do not interfere with the currently sitting CSM, as the elections were called early for the purpose of sorting travel arrangements for the first CSM-CCP summit of CSM5.
I can however provide some stats. I'll add a little to this later on today:
- 39,433 votes were cast, compared to 21,787 for CSM4
- Of these votes, 754 voters abstained and 38,679 were for candidates
- The turnout for the election was 12.67%
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TeaDaze
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.05.20 12:02:00 -
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That is a large increase in voter turnout!
It will be interesting to see how far that changes the cutoff point for getting elected...
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Virtuozzo
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.05.20 12:52:00 -
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It has been an interesting ride indeed, much more active involvements (as opposed to just campaign statements), much more debate, and quite a bit more exposure.
Stakeholder element does up the ante here, it redefines the stage, just beware that can cut in more then one direction 
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Extreme
Eye of God
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Posted - 2010.05.20 13:11:00 -
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Edited by: Extreme on 20/05/2010 13:12:08 It is just an epic failure that the first days of voting there was displayed a static list of candidates.
We filed the importance of the problem about the advantage that one have that is listed on top of that list and yet the change wasn't made in time.
Personally i won't jump on the bandwagon concerning Ankh, i have no problem with her and she was ok to work with while i was in CSM-2. But i'll tell you that Ankh will have 2500 extra votes due to this epic failure of a static list of candidates.
/X . .
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Mynxee
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2010.05.20 13:41:00 -
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It's great to see nearly twice the number of votes cast this time compared to last. I'm sure a little controversy, more active involvement of the community, stakeholder status going forward, CCP's increased communications all helped. Plus CSM4's and Teadaze's excellent efforts to keep us informed of their work contributed to the overall credibility of CSM...that surely contributed to voter turnout.
Thanks for sharing these numbers early.
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Meissa Anunthiel
Redshift Industrial Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2010.05.20 14:26:00 -
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Was a nice run this once, tiresome, but nice. Lots of known names running...
Good luck to everyone Vote for Meissa Anunthiel for CSM 5! Balanced candite, well versed in all aspects of Eve. http://www.rooksandkings.com/meissa |

Dierdra Vaal
Caldari Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2010.05.20 14:26:00 -
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Edited by: Dierdra Vaal on 20/05/2010 14:28:07 I think the frequent login screen ads about the CSM also greatly added to the voter turn out - good to see the number's finally rising :)
btw this thread needs more blue graphs Director of Education :: EVE University
CSM1 delegate and CSM3 chairman
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Cinori Aluben
Minmatar Gladiators of Rage Opticon Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.20 15:11:00 -
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Indeed, that's a 65% increase in turnout over the average of all previous elections! It will definitely be interesting to see the cutoff numbers this round, especially seeing as MM is doing their split tactical voting... Vuk Lau could have garned two spots just for himself in each past election he participated in, so he took advantage of that by adding a running-mate; will bump someone else down.
While I was running, I put together a quick spreadsheet of the previous data based on CCP Diagoras' devblogs past, and did a projection of CSM5 based solely on an average of past numbers. I've adjusted up 65% to match the total actual votes this round. It's obviously going to be different if the tactical bloc voting does happen, but it gets the brain going nontheless. If you're interested, here's a URL link to a jpeg of the statistics:
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/8121/projectedcsm5.jpg
Good Luck to you all, it's been a fun (and tiring) race! ---
Cinori Aluben -- CSM 2010!! "Fix the Little Things First!" http://www.littlethingsfirst.com |

T'Amber
www.shipsofeve.com
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Posted - 2010.05.20 15:17:00 -
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Originally by: Cinori Aluben Indeed, that's a 65% increase in turnout over the average of all previous elections! It will definitely be interesting to see the cutoff numbers this round, especially seeing as MM is doing their split tactical voting... Vuk Lau could have garned two spots just for himself in each past election he participated in, so he took advantage of that by adding a running-mate; will bump someone else down.
While I was running, I put together a quick spreadsheet of the previous data based on CCP Diagoras' devblogs past, and did a projection of CSM5 based solely on an average of past numbers. I've adjusted up 65% to match the total actual votes this round. It's obviously going to be different if the tactical bloc voting does happen, but it gets the brain going nontheless. If you're interested, here's a URL link to a jpeg of the statistics:
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/8121/projectedcsm5.jpg
Nice blue lines 
I too had estimated 1,300 as the cut off, but with less maths involved in my calculations.  On another not, I'd like to think it was the calibre of candidates that raised the voting percentage, but its more likely all the trolling in this forum topic was the cause.
Good luck to all, but I hope theres atleast some drahma and not just a show of block voting force and karmic balancing.
-T'amber
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TeaDaze
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.05.20 15:18:00 -
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Originally by: Dierdra Vaal btw this thread needs more blue graphs
Quick and Dirty
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CCP Diagoras
C C P Alliance

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Posted - 2010.05.20 15:25:00 -
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Thanks for that, TeaDaze!
Impressive work, Cinori Aluben. I'll give out the following stats regarding the positions, just for you!
Delegates (votes): 1) 4116 (Chair) 2) 3360 3) 2521 4) 2196 5) 1649 6) 1553 7) 1519 8) 1463 9) 1260
Alternates (votes): 10) 1180 11) 1173 12) 1172 13) 1104 14) 1006
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Meissa Anunthiel
Redshift Industrial Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2010.05.20 15:29:00 -
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the seats for alternate are very expensive this year it seems Vote for Meissa Anunthiel for CSM 5! Balanced candite, well versed in all aspects of Eve. http://www.rooksandkings.com/meissa |

Centurax
Caldari Eve Engineering
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Posted - 2010.05.20 15:54:00 -
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It has been interesting and a lot of fun and may I add my congratulations to those who won and good luck with your work sitting on the CSM.
Somehow I don't think I made it to that list, would be nice to put some names to those numbers. When do those lucky few get to know if they won a seat, or is that all on the 26th, going to be a long wait if it is .
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Cinori Aluben
Minmatar Gladiators of Rage Opticon Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.20 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Diagoras Thanks for that, TeaDaze!
Impressive work, Cinori Aluben. I'll give out the following stats regarding the positions, just for you!
Delegates (votes): **#s**
Awesome thanks for the extra information. An updated table with new numbers added, including a trendline, with comparison to my projected: http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/1208/csm5vsprojected.jpg
The subtotals were more exponential than I thought they may be after tactical bloc voting was considered. But the alternates were all extremely close. Interesting that the % of wasted votes was slightly more than the average I predicted, probably mostly due to the large number of candidates. And I mean, if someone got 900 votes, that's still a dang lot, and they get nothing... Pretty intense. This could be something that CCP addresses in the future; Miyamoto Isoruku wrote a good editorial on the issue here: http://www.eve-tribune.com/index.php?no=5_20&page=7
Thanks again Diagoras for those numbers, although they just make me bite my fingers a bit more...  ---
Cinori Aluben -- CSM 2010!! "Fix the Little Things First!" http://www.littlethingsfirst.com |

Cat o'Ninetails
Caldari Rancer Defence League Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.20 16:06:00 -
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Edited by: Cat o''Ninetails on 20/05/2010 16:06:51 alright so who else got the email?? lol
x
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Finnroth
The Guardian Agency Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2010.05.20 16:15:00 -
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Very impressive rise in the turnout, but if i am not completly misstaken or understanding something wrong, that equals about 311k accounts. Haven't we been at 350k by the time of Apocrypha? Or was that just the number including trials accounts?
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T'Amber
www.shipsofeve.com
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Posted - 2010.05.20 17:48:00 -
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Edited by: T''Amber on 20/05/2010 17:51:17
Originally by: CCP Diagoras
said some stuff.
TEASE!
-T'amber
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Elise Randolph
Habitual Euthanasia Dystopia Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.20 17:53:00 -
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Damn, that is a lot of votes. So long cautious optimism o/ --- Vote me for CSM. Low-sec? I got that. Delayed local? You know I got that. Industry love? Oh baby I'm gonna blow.
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CCP Diagoras
C C P Alliance

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Posted - 2010.05.20 18:49:00 -
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Originally by: Finnroth Very impressive rise in the turnout, but if i am not completly misstaken or understanding something wrong, that equals about 311k accounts. Haven't we been at 350k by the time of Apocrypha? Or was that just the number including trials accounts?
Accounts eligible to vote were active paying, non-CCP/volunteer accounts older than 30 days. This number totalled 311,193. _______________ CCP Diagoras Research and Statistics |
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T'Amber
www.shipsofeve.com
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Posted - 2010.05.20 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: T'Amber Edited by: T''Amber on 20/05/2010 18:06:42
Originally by: CCP Diagoras
said some stuff.
TEASE!
-T'amber
Lols nvm.
-T'amber
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.05.20 18:55:00 -
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I may have failed.
VOTE SOKRATESZ for an unforgiving, unique and exciting EVE! |

Halo
Northern Intelligence
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Posted - 2010.05.20 21:01:00 -
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You did miss out this stat:
* 271,690 couldn't give a ****.
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Tribalist
Saints Amongst Sinners
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Posted - 2010.05.20 21:25:00 -
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Originally by: Halo You did miss out this stat:
* 271,690 couldn't give a ****.
What we need is "Chicago Politics" i.e. The ability buy proxies and vote the dead...
Imagine that election... 125% voter turnout! 
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Trebor Daehdoow
Gallente Sane Industries Inc. Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2010.05.20 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: Tribalist What we need is "Chicago Politics" i.e. The ability buy proxies and vote the dead...
The Chicago motto is: vote early and often.
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Korvin
Gallente Shadow Kingdom
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Posted - 2010.05.21 00:19:00 -
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Edited by: Korvin on 21/05/2010 00:19:12 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yczKwVErQQ

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T'Amber
www.shipsofeve.com
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Posted - 2010.05.21 02:47:00 -
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And the CPP said unto the playerbase, "Why do you cry to Me? Tell the children of the Eve Gate to go forward." "lift up high your rage, and stretch out your hand over the sea of tears and divide it. And the children of eden shall go on dry ground through the midst of the sea of tears." And this is how it happened.
Then Karma stretched out her hand over the sea of tears; and the CCP caused the sea to go back by a strong east wind smelling slightly of sulphurish ash all thought the night , and made of the sea of tears into a dry land, and the peoples were divided.
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Dillon Arklight
Universal Army Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.05.21 08:30:00 -
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It's great to see a much higher turnout than the previous CSM, lets hope that the high level of interest in the CSM's work continues through its lifetime.
I'd just like to say best of luck to all the players who put their hat in the ring for this election. I can't imagine it must have been easy to come under such scrutiny from your fellow players and if your elected or not you can be proud of your contribution to the game.
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.05.21 09:03:00 -
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Originally by: Dillon Arklight It's great to see a much higher turnout than the previous CSM, lets hope that the high level of interest in the CSM's work continues through its lifetime.
I'd just like to say best of luck to all the players who put their hat in the ring for this election. I can't imagine it must have been easy to come under such scrutiny from your fellow players and if your elected or not you can be proud of your contribution to the game.
Well there's two things that increased turnout in these elections:
1) Openness from CCP. CSM4 + CCP did a great job of making the process more transparent and the achievements more visible which has interested more people than before.
2) Old candidates being able to run again has caused for ferocious campaigning, hate, slander, and much other hilarity which again increased the 'media coverage' of the event and thereby the amount of people that voted.
What needs to be done now is that CSM5 and CCP continue to provide a detailed account of the process and what it leads to. There will always be bitter vets who simply think that the CSM is useless, but much can be gained among the rest of the playerbase.
VOTE SOKRATESZ for an unforgiving, unique and exciting EVE! |

Dillon Arklight
Universal Army Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.05.21 11:15:00 -
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A quick thought about the increased voting turnout.
I was wondering how many players with multiple accounts only voted with one of them.
Personally i have multiple accounts but i don't like the idea of casting more than one vote as it dosen't seem democratic. I know its probbaly impossible to tell how many people voted more than once but its something to consider when looking at the voting statistics.
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Mynxee
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2010.05.21 12:38:00 -
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Edited by: Mynxee on 21/05/2010 12:40:01
Originally by: Dillon Arklight Personally i have multiple accounts but i don't like the idea of casting more than one vote as it dosen't seem democratic. I know its probbaly impossible to tell how many people voted more than once but its something to consider when looking at the voting statistics.
I think almost everyone with >1 account votes with each of them. You can see that by the comments of support throughout various candidates' threads. Since there's no practical way of limiting votes by individual persons, doing it by authenticated (via login) account is the only realistic option. It doesn't make any sense not to cast all your allowed votes due to philosophical reasons. Everyone else will be giving full support to their preferred candidates; you might as well do so, too -- next time around :).
I miss your podcast 
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