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Dlardrageth
ANZAC ALLIANCE
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.22 04:52:00 -
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 Originally by: Konoch
Originally by: TeaDaze
Originally by: Konoch
The CSM is inherently flawed by the overwhelming influence of mega alliances and powerblocks. Unless CCP is willing do something to address this, more and more its going to become very clear that its a joke to even vote. While there was a spike in voting i believe that this was forced by the NC and SC conflict as people in both groups try to get their people on the council with the potential of affecting the war. I am sorry to see that my vote is inherently wasted.
Considering the actual results haven't been released I wouldn't cry mega alliance blob foul just yet.
In CSM4 only around 4 of the 9 delegates (or 6 of the 14 if you include the alternates) were from large alliances...
There wasnt a full scale war on then like there is right now. Increases the likely hood and the voterspike for me is cause for concern not joy.
Confirming that all the "mega alliances" members did/do have nothing else worry about. I mean, hey, we all know the CSM seats are most vital to 0.0 gameplay and outcome of nullsec wars and stuff, right? Who cares about being able to get a decent fight when you can vote instead? 
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Dlardrageth
ANZAC ALLIANCE
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.22 06:42:00 -
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Okay, for the sake of the argument then... You adressed "mega alliances". Assuming you picked your phrase carefully there, that makes all alliances with "mega" member numbers, aka in excess of 1K members viable. With regards to your point of "block voting"/"taking over CSM" or however you do want to call it.
By current in-game listing there are over 30 of those. Compared to the number of available CSM seats and the posted votes required to get a CSM seat / alternate spot that would logically imply, that if your assumption were right, all, or maybe all but one seat on the CSM would go to those alliances. History of recent CSM panels does not really support this, but well, maybe this time it all changed? 
So if you were correct, we'd see on the next CSM panel (almost) exclusively members of those "mega alliances", IF your assumption were right that those were trying to "take over" the CSM. More so, as we cannot be sure that someone external might "accidentally" vote for one of the candidates from those alliances (Gods beware!), as they might raise some valid point in their campaign. Going by sheer numbers under the assumption you are right (and myself wrong about lots of 0.0 not caring a whit about CSM), we'll see come next week a (almost) full 0.0 alliance-stocked CSM, right?
Would be utterly surprised if that would happen, I'd actually still be surprised if only half the future CSM members came (by order of alliance size ofc ) from those entities. But maybe I'll be proven all wrong and the conspiracy theory is true...
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Dlardrageth
ANZAC ALLIANCE
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.22 19:06:00 -
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Originally by: Dillon Arklight
Edited by: Dillon Arklight on 22/05/2010 15:43:03
Originally by: Fade Toblack
Multiple accounts getting multiple votes - actually I see this as being fairer. If you're willing to pay for 2 or 3 (or more) accounts, then surely you should have 2 or 3 (or more) times the say over the future of the game.
Based on that should a person who pays more tax have more say in how a country is run? Yeah i know EVE isn't like the real world, just a comparison.[...]
You would be surprised. Look up "Timocracy" in a good encyclopedia, or prolly even Wikipedia. The greeks of antiquitiy didn't think too badly about that. As opposed to some comments about democracy occasionally made. Just as a footnote, personally I don't think CSM elections rank as truly "democratic" if the majority of players abstains. Thus prolly some bastard-child of political theory anway...
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Dlardrageth
ANZAC ALLIANCE
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.27 11:51:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Diagoras
Full results can now be read in this dev blog.
Since when is it "full results", when you don't list the votes for those candidates that didn't make CSM or alternate slots? Kinda weird... just saying...
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