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Ninusi UbarSarum Amarr SPCS	Posted - 2010.05.21 22:16:00 - [1] The Society for Prevention of Cruelty to Slaves would like to offer their aid to the population of all planets that have suffered from Sansha raids to abduct people. The SPCS offers this aid to all governments, regardless of affiliation or background, including the lessor races. We have a large number of counselors and priests specialized in dealing with post-traumatic stress, grief and loss. The SPCS will setup special treatment centers on these worlds where the distraught can tell their story and receive proper mental and moral care. If necessary, people will be offered transport to better equipped SPCS-owned facilities in the Amarr Empire. The SPCS has not forgotten about the plights of the civilians in the wake of these abhorrent attacks. Many people have lost loved ones and friends. They need extra care and the experts of the SPCS are willing to offer it. Free of charge. The SPCS hereby asks all capsuleer organizations that reside in the low-sec territories hit by the Sansha attacks to extend a promise of safe passage to SPCS staff. First Assistant to Lord Murkon Ninusi
Fridarey Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.05.21 22:23:00 - [2] So basically you are going to go to worlds that have been attacked by the Sanshas and use the distraction to enslave more victims to Amarrian imperialism. And people wonder why Free Captains don't trust any kind of cooperation with Amarrian nationalism.
Freyya Advanced Planetary Exports Intergalactic Exports Group	Posted - 2010.05.21 22:24:00 - [3] While i applaud your efforts i'm positive that you will receive no leniency in alot of low sec areas. Also, while your intentions may be noble, we have the Sisters of Eve to provide aid to struck worlds and populations. They're equipped, trained and funded for this very purpose and your efforts might "get in their way" while performing their tasks. I would suggest you perhaps would offer aid to the capsuleers in low sec pockets that are trying to fight the abomination and get raided by opportunistic pig pirates in the form of a remote repair wing? Might do justice to the billions and billions worth of training and funding towards your podpilot license by the Amarr empire.. Good luck in either case. Even if you manage to assist only one assaulted planet i personally consider it a victory for your efforts. ___________ NOW COLLECTING ISD AND CCP AUTOGRAPHS It'll be worth something someday. -Rauth
Vikarion Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems	Posted - 2010.05.23 05:53:00 - [4] Edited by: Vikarion on 23/05/2010 05:53:06 Keep your organization, your slavers, and your ideology and religion out of State space. We neither want nor need the Amarr spreading their theology here. - - -
Merdaneth Amarr Angel Wing.	Posted - 2010.05.23 07:15:00 - [5] Edited by: Merdaneth on 23/05/2010 07:18:00 Originally by: Vikarion Keep your organization, your slavers, and your ideology and religion out of State space. We neither want nor need the Amarr spreading their theology here. I do not think the primary purpose of this initiative is about spreading ideology mr. Vikarion. It is of course possible that people helping are appreciated by those helped, but that in itself is no reason to refuse it, don't you think? ____ The Illusion of Freedom \| The Truth about Slavery
Vikarion Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems	Posted - 2010.05.23 07:24:00 - [6] Originally by: Merdaneth Edited by: Merdaneth on 23/05/2010 07:18:00 Originally by: Vikarion Keep your organization, your slavers, and your ideology and religion out of State space. We neither want nor need the Amarr spreading their theology here. I do not think the primary purpose of this initiative is about spreading ideology mr. Vikarion. It is of course possible that people helping are appreciated by those helped, but that in itself is no reason to refuse it, don't you think? The help the SPCS is offering is irrevocably tainted by the fact that the mission of the SPCS is, ultimately, inclusive of the Amarrian goal of enslaving other races, including the Caldari. The Caldari will not bend the knee to the Gallente, or to the Amarr, or to any other nation or creed. The Amarrian religion, which is their stated reason (in general) for the actions they take, is very clear on the point that other races are inferior to the Amarr, and that they must be brought into compliance to the Amarr religion. The SPCS is an admitted missionary arm of that religion, and is attempting to use these attacks to further the spread of their beliefs, and to enslave those they can persuade to go with them. If I see the SPCS operating in State space, I will petition my CEO for opening of hostilities. - - -
Vikarion Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems	Posted - 2010.05.23 07:49:00 - [7] Edited by: Vikarion on 23/05/2010 07:57:03 I was just contacted by a SPCS officer. Conversation is as follows: Quote: Vikarion > ? Ninusi UbarSarum > Vikarion, why are you so mean? Ninusi UbarSarum > We are just trying to help. Vikarion > Quote: "If necessary, people will be offered transport to better equipped SPCS-owned facilities in the Amarr Empire." Vikarion > I know what that means. That means enslavement Ninusi UbarSarum > Are you crazy! Of course not! Vikarion > But even if it does not, I do not desire even one Caldari to be drawn away from their Caldari beliefs, from our Caldari culture, from who we are as a people. Ninusi UbarSarum > i'm sorry mr. Vikarion, I didn't mean to yell at you Ninusi UbarSarum > Maybe you don't want us to help. Ninusi UbarSarum > But this is not about what you want. Ninusi UbarSarum > This is about what they need. Vikarion > It will be, if you try. Vikarion > The Caldari have not fought and bled against the Gallente to be taken by Amarrians in the night. Ninusi UbarSarum > The SPCS are not fighters. Ninusi UbarSarum > We do not own starships with guns. Vikarion > Your point? Ninusi UbarSarum > I... don't know mr. Vikarion Ninusi UbarSarum > I just think you are a mean man. Vikarion > I don't fight for pretty explosions alone. I fight to kill those who are threats to the people, culture, and beliefs of the State. Ninusi UbarSarum > Perhaps you have lost someone or something Ninusi UbarSarum > And that has made you so mean. Ninusi UbarSarum > I will pray for you. Vikarion > The good you might do a few Caldari physically will be far outweighed by the damage you would do to their souls. Ninusi UbarSarum > Our mission is not to help them physically, but offered them someone who listens to them. Ninusi UbarSarum > And not be mean to them like you are, or ignore them like most pod pilots do. Vikarion > The Caldari do not need listeners who desire to create sympathies towards the Amarr, or towards the Amarr religion. Vikarion > You don't know me, you know nothing of my efforts on the behalf of the Caldari Ninusi UbarSarum > I think you are not only mean, but arrogant too. Ninusi UbarSarum > Someone woke up this morning and made you God? Ninusi UbarSarum > So now you decide what is best for people? Vikarion > Yes, I am proud - proud of my heritage, proud of my State, proud of our people, culture, and religion. Vikarion > Yes. I act to preserve that which generations have died to defend. I am Caldari, we Caldari know what is best for us. Ninusi UbarSarum > You are mean and arrogant. I bet you are not married and have had no girlfriend for a long time. Ninusi UbarSarum > I'm sorry mr. Vikarion. Ninusi UbarSarum > That is not behaviour becoming of an SPCS officer. Ninusi UbarSarum > I should not have said that. Vikarion > I see. Am I going to get any actual intellectual response besides denigrating my romantic prospects? Ninusi UbarSarum > I'm sorry. Ninusi UbarSarum > I really want to help these people. Ninusi UbarSarum > I don't understand why you need to be so mean about it. - - -
Vikarion Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems	Posted - 2010.05.23 07:50:00 - [8] Edited by: Vikarion on 23/05/2010 07:53:35 Continued: Quote: Vikarion > I am sure you do. But I am already extending what aid I can, privately, and without using it to advance an anti-Caldari agenda. Vikarion > Any actions you might take will be tainted by the fact that you intend to use them to advance your religion. Ninusi UbarSarum > I think it is very good of you that you do. Vikarion > We have a religion, we don't particularly desire another. Ninusi UbarSarum > What action can I take that are not tainted do you think? Vikarion > Leave. Do not act in State space. We are the least affected of the four empires, we have things well in hand. Vikarion > Concentrate your actions elsewhere. Ninusi UbarSarum > Is anything friendly I do for a State citizen tainted? Ninusi UbarSarum > You think that, really? Vikarion > Yes, because of the cause you do it in. Ninusi UbarSarum > Do many people think like you? Vikarion > Yes. I would say that my view represents the majority, especially of the Patriot bloc Ninusi UbarSarum > That is very sad. Ninusi UbarSarum > I need to think about what you said. Ninusi UbarSarum > Is it ok if I break this connection? Vikarion > It is something to be proud of. We do not <i>need</i> help. We do not <i>need</i> assistance. We build what we have, we provide for each other, and we will not bow to another or accept charity. Vikarion > Yes. Ninusi UbarSarum > Ok. I still think you need to be less mean though. Bye! - - -
Ninusi UbarSarum Amarr SPCS	Posted - 2010.05.23 08:10:00 - [9] I am very angry with you Vikarion. Our conversation was private. Have you no respect?! You are a very mean man. The SPCS staff did a background check on you. I know now why you do and say such things: Originally by: "Vikarion" As many of you know, White Rose Society is an organization deeply loyal to the Nation and to the dream of Sansha Kuvakei. Unlike many of the other factions, however, we have avoided acts of piracy and violence towards those who oppose us. I say you are a Sansha worshipper, an infiltrator, a liar and a madman. You don't want to help these people, you want to make them suffer. Maybe those poor people know some Sansha secret you don't want us to know. I will not pray for you anymore.
Vikarion Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems	Posted - 2010.05.23 09:31:00 - [10] Edited by: Vikarion on 23/05/2010 09:32:00 Originally by: Ninusi UbarSarum I am very angry with you Vikarion. Our conversation was private. Have you no respect?! You are a very mean man. The SPCS staff did a background check on you. I know now why you do and say such things: Originally by: "Vikarion" As many of you know, White Rose Society is an organization deeply loyal to the Nation and to the dream of Sansha Kuvakei. Unlike many of the other factions, however, we have avoided acts of piracy and violence towards those who oppose us. I say you are a Sansha worshipper, an infiltrator, a liar and a madman. You don't want to help these people, you want to make them suffer. Maybe those poor people know some Sansha secret you don't want us to know. I will not pray for you anymore. You never stipulated that the conversation was private, and I think it's fair to say that it was quite reasonable for me to consider it a public communication, since it was, after all, a reply to a public communication. Second, as for your investigation, I suggest that you dig further. I quite publicly renounced any sentiment I had for the Nation quite a while ago, and even when I worked for the Nation, it was not in a context of creating an adversary to my homeland. This renunciation cost me dearly, and I've more than proved my loyalties more than once, such as when I recently participated in the destruction of a Sansha Supercarrier and personally killed the pilot, Slave Tama01. It's a very amateurish smear job you are attempting in any case: even when I was working for the Sansha, I didn't advocate the system we now see exists, nor did I ever turn from my loyalty to the State - in fact, I was vocal as to the opposite. I saw the Nation as a possible ally for the State, and while that does not seem possible now, and though I was mistaken, that does not change my continuing loyalty to my homeland and people. The particular tactic you seem to be employing here is to aver that I am untrustworthy, and, as a result, my statements are of no value. However, even if I were Sansha, that would not change the reality of the Caldari people's desire to be free of your influence, nor that you have no right to take persons from the State. In any case, you are manifestly incorrect on all counts. Try again, this time with feeling. - - -
Darveses DAEDALUS X The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.05.23 11:09:00 - [11] I see the SPCS has hired another specialist in ruining their reputation in public? As if one wasn't enough ... --- The Providence Gazetteer Star Fraction YouTube Channel
Lord Murkon Amarr SPCS	Posted - 2010.05.23 13:55:00 - [12] I can certainly understand why some might be reluctant to accept the help of the SPCS believing the inaccurate propoganda that says we seek to enslave everyone we meet. The SPCS is not an enslavement organization instead we seek to ensure slaves are treated with care and humanity as prescribed by our late Emperor. It has been posted before that if the Empress ordered all slaves released today the SPCS would morph into an organization specializing in assisting that regulation. Thus we merely respond to the existing policy of the day we do not direct it. The efforts to aid the survivors of the Sansha attacks will go on. I encourage pilots to contract food items, water and oxygen as well as any other commodities they may feel would aid the survivors to the SPCS in Amarr Emperor station. We will take care of delivering these items to afflicted worlds via courier missions as well as providing counseling and support for the survivors of those abducted. This is a time of great need among the survivors of these Sansha pirate attacks. Pirates have always been a scourge on the galaxy and the Sansha are especially brutal. The SPCS is here for the survivors. We serve. Lord Murkon SPCS - Serving the pathetic Minmatar and lessor races by the grace of God
Rosalund Shaw Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2010.05.23 14:37:00 - [13] Originally by: Lord Murkon I can certainly understand why some might be reluctant to accept the help of the SPCS believing the inaccurate propoganda that says we seek to enslave everyone we meet. The SPCS is not an enslavement organization instead we seek to ensure slaves are treated with care and humanity as prescribed by our late Emperor. It has been posted before that if the Empress ordered all slaves released today the SPCS would morph into an organization specializing in assisting that regulation. Thus we merely respond to the existing policy of the day we do not direct it. The efforts to aid the survivors of the Sansha attacks will go on. I encourage pilots to contract food items, water and oxygen as well as any other commodities they may feel would aid the survivors to the SPCS in Amarr Emperor station. We will take care of delivering these items to afflicted worlds via courier missions as well as providing counseling and support for the survivors of those abducted. This is a time of great need among the survivors of these Sansha pirate attacks. Pirates have always been a scourge on the galaxy and the Sansha are especially brutal. The SPCS is here for the survivors. We serve. Lord Murkon Get out of the State you slaver patsy, Heth should declare you KOS and have done with it. Its utterly disgusting to think of a sick and perverted old man like Archbishop paying people like SPCS to procure State citizens as playthings for his personal fetish fantasies.
Lord Murkon Amarr SPCS	Posted - 2010.05.23 19:51:00 - [14] I have received several evemails from individuals wanting to help the relief efforts. While SPCS counselors can aid the people victimized by these Sansha the material goods needed are another matter. I will be posting some contracts here in the coming days for hauler services to affected planets. The contracts will be courier in nature and will consist of trade goods. The SPCS appreciates all who are offering to help stop the suffering. Lord Murkon SPCS - Serving the pathetic Minmatar and lessor races by the grace of God
Lord Murkon Amarr SPCS	Posted - 2010.05.24 01:22:00 - [15] Originally by: Rosalund Shaw Get out of the State you slaver patsy, Heth should declare you KOS and have done with it. The SPCS will do it's best to help those in need. We do not purchase slaves rather we are an intermediary that works to advance the cause of our late Emperor that being that slaves be treated humanely. We do not sell slaves at all. Our efforts here are completely humanitarian. We will help those who are left behind deal with the psychological shock of the Sansha's horrible actions. Lord Murkon SPCS - Serving the pathetic Minmatar and lessor races by the grace of God
Dex Nederland Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems	Posted - 2010.05.24 03:00:00 - [16] Originally by: Lord Murkon We will help those who are left behind deal with the psychological shock of the Sansha's horrible actions. How do you expect to help those you do not even understand? Your charity may very well leave those communities you "help" worse than if the community recovered and grew on its own. You call my employee heartless and yet you pursume all cultures to be like your own. Despite what the CEASA may lead jajii to believe the State, the Caldari, do not appreciate handouts. A handout creates a dependence on another entity and there are always strings attached. CEO, Lai Dai Infinity Systems
Andreus LeHane Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2010.05.24 05:11:00 - [17] The SPCS' so-called "assistance" is similarly unwelcome in Gallente space. -----
Sinti Vailatti Epitoth Fleet Yards	Posted - 2010.05.24 13:27:00 - [18] Mister UbarSroum sir? If Sansha pilots and their new corporations Like True Power and True Creation are going to Amarr planets and taking slaves and then using them on Sansha ships that fly through Amarr space dosen't that (in addition to the usual charges like kidnapping) break every law of slavery we have in the Empire? Spaking as a slave, I'm concerned that these people are not obeying the specific laws that make the institution of slavery work in the Empire! These slaves are not registered! There is no SPCS seal of approval! No stamp on the paperwork from the Couclil...and no paperwork! Say it ain't so! What are we going to do? This breaks every trade agreement out there! Every governemnt and major corporation has stacks of legal statutes regarding slaves moving through their shperes of influance. How is it that the SPCS can let Concord protect Sansha pilots, while law-abiding, tax-paying Amarr citizens are strangeled by Concord red tape? I heard a legend, long ago that a crime boss couldn't be caught as a murderer, so the local Amarr Magistrate got him on tax-evasion. Just sayin' Serving the Dark Amarr
Celeste Fauconnier Gallente Lai Dai Infinity Systems	Posted - 2010.05.24 15:31:00 - [19] Lord Murkon, surely you would be rebuked even within the Empire for ministering to free Citizens -- particularly your peers, hmm? Save your good intentions and noble energies for the people of the Empire. I imagine there are quite enough in need there to keep you and yours occupied, all without the unfortunate consequences that could arise from cultural misunderstanding. While, to the best of my knowledge, we've not yet seen where a certain common enemy will exploit our conflicts to its gain, I do not doubt its being capable of same. Why provide it more opportunities to cause tragedy, particularly if such can be avoided? On another matter ... Lady UbarSarum? Please cease behaving like a child. No soul here, Damned, Demented or merely Deluded, will ever mistake you for one. Your doing so demeans you, your heritage, and your associates. It also annoys me. I expect better of someone associated with your organization.
Simon Coal Gallente The Grass Spiders	Posted - 2010.05.25 13:35:00 - [20] If the hostility seen here and likely planetside won't deter you, would you accept an offer of Grass Spider volunteers and observers to ease cultural and linguistic barriers? I dare say we've got more contacts with local charities than the SPCS does, and more experience coordinating between disparate organizations.

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