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Solver Bear
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.05.22 04:10:00 -
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Hi!
I had a deprepessive experienece when I did my first LVL V! It was against Caldari Navi (Location/Location I / V) (I did it in a Marauder plus my alt in an Oneiros), and I had to warp out again and again because of that ECM'ing figs and cruisers. Is there a way to handle that apart of Sensor Boosters? Would an ECCM module help better?
Thanks for reading and/or replies!
(Sorry for bad english)
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L'Petit Object
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Posted - 2010.05.22 04:13:00 -
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My impression is that it helps. I equipped it vs. guristas on my rokh and never got jammed. but a rokh has a biggass sensor strength, so that might have been dumb luck. Some people swear it doesn't. Truth is I wan't to hear it out of a moderator.
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Cartheron Crust
Krazny Oktyabr Revolyutsiya
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Posted - 2010.05.22 04:24:00 -
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Edited by: Cartheron Crust on 22/05/2010 04:25:09
Thread with info about it here:-
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1277798
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Solver Bear
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.05.22 04:31:00 -
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Thanks for that link Cartheron!
I just looked at it, and I'll reading on! :)
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Solver Bear
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.05.22 05:17:00 -
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I've read it and I'm mathemaital skilled. :)
For tl;dr people:
It works! :)
Thanks again for that link. :)
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Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation
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Posted - 2010.05.22 07:29:00 -
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ECM is chance-based, but ECCM is also chance-based, because it has a 3:4-chance for fitting the wrong ECCM module on a ship. This explains why there are always some players who think ECCM does not work.
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King Rothgar
Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2010.05.22 11:21:00 -
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ECCM does help and maruaders are really the worst ships to use against any NPC that ECM's due to their low native sensor strength. Sensor boosters of course do not help, those increase targeting range and scan resolution, not sensor strength. The whole system is chance based and the poster above me is either making a bad joke or is really stupid. Ships only have one sensor type and that's the one you boost obviously. You can alter that if you buy some low grade sensor strength implants for the wrong racial ship but you'd have to be pretty ****ing stupid to do that.
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Dungheap
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.05.22 14:35:00 -
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this thread, from when marauders were introduced, assures players that the low SS wouldn't be a factor in being jammed:
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=619821&page=2#49
but it seems undeniable that eccm does work. why wouldn't ccp announce this change, since players, in particular the FW guys, haved asked for it for a long time?
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stoicfaux
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Posted - 2010.05.22 15:01:00 -
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 Originally by: Dungheap
this thread, from when marauders were introduced, assures players that the low SS wouldn't be a factor in being jammed:
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=619821&page=2#49
but it seems undeniable that eccm does work. why wouldn't ccp announce this change, since players, in particular the FW guys, haved asked for it for a long time?
If you've ever worked in a QA or SCM capacity in a software shop, you would know that Developers Lie.
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Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation
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Posted - 2010.05.22 17:13:00 -
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Originally by: King Rothgar
...the poster above me is either making a bad joke or is really stupid....
There are always some players who get the ECCM type wrong. Together with ECM being chance-based does it make things only more complicated and not easier. Do you understand that?
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Kassa Daito
Capital Construction Research
Pioneer Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.22 17:29:00 -
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The short answer is that although sensor strength itself is not the sole factor in rats' jam chance (marauders aren't rendered particularly useless by guristas), ECCM modules do reduce that chance.
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King Rothgar
Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2010.05.22 22:12:00 -
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Originally by: Whitehound
Edited by: Whitehound on 22/05/2010 17:22:44
Originally by: King Rothgar
...the poster above me is either making a bad joke or is really stupid....
There are always some players who get the ECCM type wrong. Together with ECM being chance-based does it make things for some only more complicated and not easier. Do you understand that?
Guess it was the latter possibility. By your logic, weapon bonuses are also chance based since you have only a one in four chance of fitting the bonused weapon class if you don't bother reading the ship description.
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Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation
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Posted - 2010.05.22 23:08:00 -
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Originally by: King Rothgar
Guess it was the latter possibility. By your logic, weapon bonuses are also chance based since you have only a one in four chance of fitting the bonused weapon class if you don't bother reading the ship description.
You have a tiny brain. I am talking of numbers of players and not the game mechanics.
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