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Lurtz
Caldari Gunrunners and Gamblers
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Posted - 2010.05.26 17:37:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Masterplan
Originally by: Bootius McGee Iceland has daylight?
We do. Right now we have about twenty hours of daylight, with a wonderful sunset/sunrise occupying the remaining four hours. You should see the number of people wearing shorts in the office today!
and all that volcanic ash in the air, probably makes for some cool refraction with those sunrise/sets
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Ti'anla
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.05.26 17:37:00 -
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Originally by: Mail Lite Because you fail.
If you set your clock to GMT and UTC it will show the same times. However if you set your clock to British Summer time (GMT + 1 hour) you'll get 17.30 UTC and 18.30 British time.
Mail
Thanks...
I think o.O |

Preden
Minmatar Estigia Corp.
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Posted - 2010.05.26 17:39:00 -
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Originally by: Radgette
GMT doesn't change either it's always the same and exactly the same as UTC
Therefore it doesn't really matter whether it's UTC or not, does it. CCP chose to use UTC, which is the norm for Iceland. |

Murk Loar
O.W.N. Corp OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.26 17:39:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis Thread lacks australians complaining about downtime.
Never fear,Im here to help out on this one.
WTF CCP IT'S FUGGIN 1:30 IN THE FUGGIN MORNING AND WTF WHY IS MY DOWNTIME RIGHT IN AUSTRALIAN PRIME TIME HNHHGBHHFFBFDBHDBHDNDhglkjhhlkmhj |

Terminal Insanity
Minmatar Gith Industries
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Posted - 2010.05.26 17:44:00 -
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Originally by: Lunatic Shakhid UTC is a scientific standard used when an accuracy better than +/- 0.9 seconds is required. The time involved in patching online software inherently contains a much larger margin of error than this.
Why not just the more familiar, and for our purposes equivalent, GMT?
UTC (Universal Time Coordinated) is the global standard. UTC/GMT/Zulu/+00:00 all refer to the same thing, generally. In the computer world, the more precise UTC is used, although the release time for a patch hardly needs this extra precision, they are probably just using the same time as the servers do.
Using UTC here, UT there, and GMT over here... is just a mess. using UTC across the board accomplishes the exact same task, without using several different times |

Reetoc Kraace
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Posted - 2010.05.26 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: Terminal Insanity Using UTC here, UT there, and GMT over here... is just a mess. using UTC across the board accomplishes the exact same task, without using several different times
Just like calling it GMT worked before some muppet decided to "fix" it by changing what it's called? Also, how is 00:00 UTC more (or less) precise than 00:00 GMT? If two things are exactly equal, one cannot be more (or less) than the other. |

Avalon Ranger
Cold Void Industry and Trading P R I M E
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Posted - 2010.05.26 18:41:00 -
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GMT is controlled by wizards in white cloaks and pointy hats. The wizards look at the stars and work out the time. UTC is observed by scientists and is based on atomic time with leap seconds placed randomly to compensate for earth slowing rotation.
The wizards got lazy and now just copy the scientists so they can spend more time doing magic and less time looking at the starts and working out the time.
UTC is the new standard for time. The Greenwich wizards are tired. |

Xianthar
STK Scientific The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.05.26 18:53:00 -
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Originally by: Ti'anla Edited by: Ti''anla on 26/05/2010 17:10:30 Also, as the OP said, UTC is a scientific standard for when accuracy is important.
EVE's most critical requirement is that synchronisation remains constant between server and client, I think that demands a high accuracy rating (even if there is a lot more to it than both knowing what time it is).
Why not use the most accurate time possible for your server? And why not in turn use that as the basis for everything else? Makes sense to me.
You'd never use UTC (the scientific definition of UTC) for client-server sync. The difference between 2 time stamps can easily get thrown off by the injection of a leap second and real accuracy isn't known till down the road corrections are made (months later). UTC's accuracy is also very bad at the time scales needed for synchronization.
UTC just makes sense for something that gets used by people in various time zones as there are no seasonal changes.
The real question is why i can't set a time zone in eve so it will show in local time.
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Korenti Rels
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Posted - 2010.05.26 18:59:00 -
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Originally by: Radgette GMT doesn't change either it's always the same and exactly the same as UTC
it's just that in the summer people in britain change to GMT+1 or BST. so your reasoning is a bit off :P
You are correct that GMT does not change. But it is not exactly the same as UTC. They can differ by up to 0.9 seconds.
UTC is precise to the atomic clock scale. GMT is measured by astronomical observations. The length of a day changes slightly every day (and not always by the same amount). GMT therefore "drifts" compared to UTC. Eventually UTC is then adjusted with "leap seconds".
I think that legal time in Iceland is UTC. Legal time in Britain is GMT (in winter) and BST when daylight saving is in effect.
However most clock sync signals broadcast UTC (even in England), therefore server time (EvE time) is UTC.
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toxicvega
F.R.E.E. Explorer Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2010.05.26 19:45:00 -
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Edited by: toxicvega on 26/05/2010 19:46:01 This is what happens when EVE is down. We all resort to arguing what time it really is, and how my time is more right then your time. WE NEED EVE BACK!!!!!
ninja edit. This post was just a clever ploy to make sure my "extra clock" on Win7 taskbar was infact correct and accurate with the forums. |
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