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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.05.27 05:40:00 -
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Second system in a row! To all the Pervs, you'll have dt back in your favour soon, so don't worry too much :)
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Bad Messenger
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.05.27 11:03:00 -
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It is funny to see how YOU post about capturing systems by using bugs.
This system capture is done by exploiting the fact that ccp had to hot fix.
Current Gallente/caldari FW is not fighting about systems is about who uses most bugs.
That is not the FW we like to play, i am tired to see that same faces uses all fw bugs every day, no matter how many petitions or bug reports you make ccp does nothing, no fixes no bans.
There is no fight.
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.05.27 11:16:00 -
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Edited by: chatgris on 27/05/2010 11:16:39
 Originally by: Bad Messenger
This system capture is done by exploiting the fact that ccp had to hot fix.
You mean, like you've been "exploiting" the servers coming up in your time zone while almost no-one else is playing practically EVERY SINGLE DAY for the last year? The "exploit" (I prefer bug, officially it is a "non-optimal" implementation according to CCP) that the Gallente have been complaining about for a year now?
All we had were DT's during our time zone that allowed for us to actually run plexes before they got stuck respawning into never-never land.
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Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2010.05.27 11:26:00 -
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Edited by: Damar Rocarion on 27/05/2010 11:27:45
Originally by: chatgris
The "exploit" (I prefer bug, officially it is a "non-optimal" implementation according to CCP) that the Gallente have been complaining about for a year now?
1: Admitted bugging of timers to run down itself (Aesis Tori, entire Black Onyx Society corporation, many others). Done by yourself in Jovainnon as you well know.
2: Turning npcs to fire on friendly militia (Amon Dei, Val Erian, others). Repeatedly done, best remembered for Nennamaila incident.
3: Using a fast ship to cause "ghost time" to appear on plex timer, forcing whoever is on plex to sit random amount of extra minutes (worst being over an hour in Esesier plex, triggered by Val Erian) inside a plex, giving other side unreasonable advantage to rally up more people.
4: Continuous denial of acknowleding such things are done and no knowledge of their function despite Val Erian, Ankh and others outlining the exploits and how they work in your militia chat and people boasting in local about their use.
Ankh we even petitioned and supplied militia logs to CCP. Despite this blatant offense, no action taken.
Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General
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Bad Messenger
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.05.27 11:33:00 -
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Edited by: Bad Messenger on 27/05/2010 11:36:30
It seems that you are not quite familiar with plexing, still you are talking about it like you knew something.
Situation in Old Man Star capture after 2 reboots differs from normal dt spawning and after dt plexing.
After DT spawns plexes and we normally take those, but it does not prevent gallente to do defencive plexing on other time zones. There has been days when there has been 0 plexes in contested gallente systems after DT. So post dt plexing is not enough to flip systems.
Old Man Star is originally gallente system and those are much more easier to capture back than take those.
In essence caldari controlled systems tend to have about 10 plex every day after dt for gallente to capture. When there is 2 or more DT on row, enemy has no time to use those other defencive plexing methods. So Gallente controlled OMS for couple hours and got system.
I was on couple hours after original patch deployment, we defended ladistier etc... but Old Man Star was uncontested when i went to sleep, after couple hours of sleep i wake up and see that heydelies and old man Star are under gallente control.
OMS capture has to be fastest system capture ever.
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.05.27 11:43:00 -
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Edited by: chatgris on 27/05/2010 11:44:20
Originally by: Damar Rocarion
1: Admitted bugging of timers to run down itself (Aesis Tori, entire Black Onyx Society corporation, many others). Done by yourself in Jovainnon as you well know.
2: Turning npcs to fire on friendly militia (Amon Dei, Val Erian, others). Repeatedly done, best remembered for Nennamaila incident.
3: Using a fast ship to cause "ghost time" to appear on plex timer, forcing whoever is on plex to sit random amount of extra minutes (worst being over an hour in Esesier plex, triggered by Val Erian) inside a plex, giving other side unreasonable advantage to rally up more people.
4: Continuous denial of acknowleding such things are done and no knowledge of their function despite Val Erian, Ankh and others outlining the exploits and how they work in your militia chat and people boasting in local about their use.
Ankh we even petitioned and supplied militia logs to CCP. Despite this blatant offense, no action taken.
Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General
Sigh - I've already answered all these allegations until I was blue in the face, but to summarize, yet again
1) They're not me, nor my corp, nor even in the MDP, I don't know them well, and you'll forgive me for not trusting you given the mass of smack talk you carry out on a regular basis. I do know many people that "admit" things to you for the local rage though. Jovainnon - if your great spies that tell you things had been there, they would have heard me having to bail since I couldn't take the rats anymore, and asking another plexing member in an ishkur to go and take over.
2) Ammon Dei - We didn't know at the time, and now that we know how it's done, we take pains not to trigger it whenever we are plexing. I personally took great care not to trigger it even as you were in the plex smack talking me about it.
3) ? No knowledge of said mechanic, if you'd care to explain it to me, I'll try to avoid triggering it if I have been inadvertently. If it involves great speed well, I pretty much stick to AB frigs so I doubt I'm triggering that bug.
4) Like number 3 - if you know this great knowledge, please share. Look at it this way - If I truly don't know and I'm asking you to tell me so I can avoid it, maybe I can actually avoid triggering a bug!
Worst case scenario: I do know and I'm lieing to you, in which case - YOU'VE LOST NOTHING BY TELLING ME. You've got nothing to lose, and stand to gain opposition that don't have the plexing knowledge you do know how to avoid triggering plex bugs.
Or, you know, you could just keep smack talking continuously - copy pasting random lines into local on your alts when you hear the locking sound on your computer.
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.05.27 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: Bad Messenger
After DT spawns plexes and we normally take those, but it does not prevent gallente to do defencive plexing on other time zones.
Yes, it does. See CCP Greyscale's post on the matter.
Simply put, as you capture plexes, they randomly respawn somewhere in in gal/cal fw space. If a plex with caldari rats ends up respawning in a gallente controlled system - it gets stuck until the next downtime, effectively removing a plex from circulation. The more plexes that are run, statistically the less plexes we can find to run.
So yes, heavy after dt plexing not only nets you more plexes to run, but prevents gallente from plexing in other timezones.
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Unfamed II
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.05.27 11:54:00 -
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Blah blah blah etc bullcrap. Luckily, I voted the one and only CSM candidate who will prolly *try* to fix some things.
Of course, knowing how terrible she is, she'll most likely **** things up for everyone and make fw even more terrible. gl. 
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Bad Messenger
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.05.27 11:58:00 -
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Originally by: chatgris
Originally by: Bad Messenger
After DT spawns plexes and we normally take those, but it does not prevent gallente to do defencive plexing on other time zones.
Yes, it does. See CCP Greyscale's post on the matter.
Simply put, as you capture plexes, they randomly respawn somewhere in in gal/cal fw space. If a plex with caldari rats ends up respawning in a gallente controlled system - it gets stuck until the next downtime, effectively removing a plex from circulation. The more plexes that are run, statistically the less plexes we can find to run.
So yes, heavy after dt plexing not only nets you more plexes to run, but prevents gallente from plexing in other timezones.
There is still possibility that those spawns to contested gallente systems, and those do spawn.
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.05.27 12:02:00 -
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Originally by: Unfamed II
Blah blah blah etc bullcrap. Luckily, I voted the one and only CSM candidate who will prolly *try* to fix some things.
Of course, knowing how terrible she is, she'll most likely **** things up for everyone and make fw even more terrible. gl.
Wait. This day is getting crazier by the minute. First, DT spawns in our timezone. Secondly, a PERV statement on withdrawing from FW. Finally - a PERV admitting that they voted for Ankh!?
This can't be real... I must be dreaming!
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Unfamed II
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.05.27 12:03:00 -
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Originally by: chatgris
Originally by: Unfamed II
Blah blah blah etc bullcrap. Luckily, I voted the one and only CSM candidate who will prolly *try* to fix some things.
Of course, knowing how terrible she is, she'll most likely **** things up for everyone and make fw even more terrible. gl.
Wait. This day is getting crazier by the minute. First, DT spawns in our timezone. Secondly, a PERV statement on withdrawing from FW. Finally - a PERV admitting that they voted for Ankh!?
This can't be real... I must be dreaming!
Just try and imagine a better way to screw all of fw players. Let me know if you figure out one.
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Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2010.05.27 12:05:00 -
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Edited by: Damar Rocarion on 27/05/2010 12:05:45
Originally by: chatgris
Wait. This day is getting crazier by the minute. First, DT spawns in our timezone. Secondly, a PERV statement on withdrawing from FW. Finally - a PERV admitting that they voted for Ankh!?
This can't be real... I must be dreaming!
Would it make you wonder if OMS occupancy tab says it's Caldari owned while map says gallente owned? Because that's what's going on right now.
Also, 0 plexes in OMS now. So looks like the plex spawning is really equal to all, eh...
Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General
P.S: My deep safes still function. Tyrannis works and all...
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.05.27 12:13:00 -
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Originally by: Damar Rocarion
Would it make you wonder if OMS occupancy tab says it's Caldari owned while map says gallente owned? Because that's what's going on right now.
Same thing happenned to Heyd after the servers came up a while ago. Seemed to correct itself a few hours later.
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Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.05.27 12:19:00 -
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Originally by: Unfamed II
Blah blah blah etc bullcrap. Luckily, I voted the one and only CSM candidate who will prolly *try* to fix some things.
Of course, knowing how terrible she is, she'll most likely **** things up for everyone and make fw even more terrible. gl.
Thanks for the support. In fact this was the first issue I put up after the election.
Anyone still having interest in contributing despite the years of neglect from CCP is very welcome to do so.
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X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.05.27 13:27:00 -
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Proposal: Server should crash during USTZ primetime.
thumbs up!
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Greg6
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Posted - 2010.05.27 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Damar Rocarion
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1: Admitted bugging of timers to run down itself (Aesis Tori, entire Black Onyx Society corporation, many others). Done by yourself in Jovainnon as you well know.
2: Turning npcs to fire on friendly militia (Amon Dei, Val Erian, others). Repeatedly done, best remembered for Nennamaila incident.
3: Using a fast ship to cause "ghost time" to appear on plex timer, forcing whoever is on plex to sit random amount of extra minutes (worst being over an hour in Esesier plex, triggered by Val Erian) inside a plex, giving other side unreasonable advantage to rally up more people.
4: Continuous denial of acknowleding such things are done and no knowledge of their function despite Val Erian, Ankh and others outlining the exploits and how they work in your militia chat and people boasting in local about their use.
Ankh we even petitioned and supplied militia logs to CCP. Despite this blatant offense, no action taken.
Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General
Heh. #1 and #3 are the same thing, and when a timer is bugged and the plex doesn't close we don't credit for it either, Damar. The distance thing happened accidentally the one time I've seen it go off and it's never been used again. And, in sum, they are all just a way of saying your butt hurts because the exploit you've been using for over a year finally came around our way. Whoot! What a great day. :)
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Mithril Ryder
Genstar Inc
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Posted - 2010.05.27 18:12:00 -
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I'd also like to note that #2 has a great chance of LOL backfiring *if* one were to try it, it happens in normal, and FW missions too if people are not paying attention. Back in my highsec carebear days I managed to burn WAY too far off with my mission domi, lost aggro, lost my drones (then a painfully expensive thing to lose 5 t2 mediums) then my corpmates at the time get aggro, one pops, the other gets out, I was at the time accused of warping out without saying anything  . So yes, getting distance on rats will cause agro shift. The agro shift is not entirely predictable, and if it switches to what should be an invalid target that is a bug. However, when someone is already in a plex, and they know they can't handle whats in there, often they will simple burn away from the warp in, perhaps hoping that the person will leave (i've seen your alts, and Cal Mil do this numerous times). That is to be expected, I wouldn't expect someone to sit and wait for death.
Anyways, for as much as you talk about it you must get a hardon every time you mention "exploits".
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GoingOffRoading
Gallente
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.05.27 19:37:00 -
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This is stupid....
Server comes up after downtime with a pile of plexes in every system because the servers reset. We capture those plexes (just li9ke you guys would) and flip two systems.
Pervs rage quit
Damar talks trash
Damar's Alt says something nice
I'm not sure about that last one but it seems like business as usual
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Cromwell Savage
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.05.28 00:30:00 -
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Haha! Wow...just wow...
[Motley Crue]Don't go away mad, just go away...[/Motley Crue] |
Tekitha
Gallente
Bi-Polar Bears
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Posted - 2010.05.28 01:08:00 -
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caldari take some systems, gallente take some systems, every1 whines about non existant exploits (mainly pervs) I mean seriously, who the hell gives a ****?
Now get out there and have a f***ing fight
comon lets be 'avin ya ... YARRR!!!
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Aiden Vorlan
Caldari
Draconian Armada
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Posted - 2010.05.28 03:00:00 -
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Originally by: chatgris
Second system in a row! To all the Pervs, you'll have dt back in your favour soon, so don't worry too much :)
27 May 2010 @ 2257 EST - Old Man Star
Occupancy: Caldari State
Sovereignty: Gallente Federation
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.05.28 05:35:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Look how awesome I am.
I asked you Ankh many times why you hate EVE so much, but you never answered to me - but I read about your previous work and voted you with all my accounts just so I could frack up EVE even more 
"The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of goldcrap"
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Neo Gabriel
Gallente
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.05.28 07:50:00 -
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Its very rewarding reading all the PERV tears.
Bonus reward is that they all seem to have voted for Ankh, which is the person they hated the most in EVE, and they tell themselves that it is to make us suffer.
So they helped put their arch enemy in power (because she was the one would fight for FW obviously), and now that they rage quit because of a chance event, they are trying to make themselves feel good that it was to destroy their play box.
Oh the irony.
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Bad Messenger
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.05.28 08:00:00 -
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Edited by: Bad Messenger on 28/05/2010 08:02:27
Originally by: Neo Gabriel
Its very rewarding reading all the PERV tears.
Bonus reward is that they all seem to have voted for Ankh, which is the person they hated the most in EVE, and they tell themselves that it is to make us suffer.
So they helped put their arch enemy in power (because she was the one would fight for FW obviously), and now that they rage quit because of a chance event, they are trying to make themselves feel good that it was to destroy their play box.
Oh the irony.
Exactly, i did not vote for ankh because he used standing bug, but all others did, because ankh fly stabbed and cloaked frigs and still she was better alone than rest of the gallente militia what comes to plexing.
You sure took all advices from ankh, how to bug plexes etc. It is Fine to notice that qcats has most plexing points/day when there was good opportunity to bug systems back when ccp had to emergency boot and fix other bugs.
Bug exploiters in finest
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Raimo
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.05.28 08:09:00 -
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Hehe, no offence guys but it sure feels good not having to care about all this any more :P
(That being said I do respect many of the posters ITT on both sides, keep on keeping on I guess)
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www.eve-arena.com
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.05.28 08:25:00 -
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Edited by: chatgris on 28/05/2010 08:25:21
Originally by: Bad Messenger
You sure took all advices from ankh, how to bug plexes etc. It is Fine to notice that qcats has most plexing points/day when there was good opportunity to bug systems back when ccp had to emergency boot and fix other bugs.
Bug exploiters in finest
Just thought I'd like to summarize your viewpoints here:
- We took advice from ankh on how to bug plexes? (Really? I'd love to know a way to get after DT spawns during the US TZ normally. Would even the field)
- Apparently, we now "bug systems" (cause bugging plexes is so 2009) by plexing after downtime
- The above is only an exploit when the downtime is not during finnish prime time
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Bad Messenger
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.05.28 08:56:00 -
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Originally by: chatgris
Edited by: chatgris on 28/05/2010 08:42:13
Originally by: Bad Messenger
You sure took all advices from ankh, how to bug plexes etc. It is Fine to notice that qcats has most plexing points/day when there was good opportunity to bug systems back when ccp had to emergency boot and fix other bugs.
Bug exploiters in finest
Just thought I'd like to summarize your viewpoints here:
- We took advice from ankh on how to bug plexes? (Really? I'd love to know a way to get after DT spawns during the US TZ normally. Would even the field)
- Apparently, we now "bug systems" (cause bugging plexes is so 2009) by plexing after downtime
- The above is only an exploit when the downtime is not during finnish prime time
I have to say, this is new for you. Normally, you complain about other people "exploiting", and then you go do it yourself on an industrial level (re: ankh's standings bug, then off to minmatar space you go!). But now, you're calling something an exploit when someone else does it AFTER you've been doing it yourself for a year.
Bravo!
Sorry but standing bug is not an exploit. Still i do not approve it, but yes we used it in minmatar to show how efficient it is and why it should be fixed.
I am almost sure that taking system in couple hours just because server had some problems and had to reboot twice is exploit. There is clearly used something that is not working as intended. I hope that ccp will think about it and give clear statement is it approved to use such exploit.
DT spawns yea right, only reason why you could flip those systems were that those are originally gallente systems and at least 5 times easier to capture than gallente systems with gallente occupancy. If you think that dt plexing is so yber method, can you tell why we have not taken any systems lately? Your arguments lack lot of knowledge about plexing mechanics. All you know is how to exploit, and you say it is right to exploit because there is dt plexing.
Qcat sure knows how to keep their exploiting on top.
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.05.28 09:08:00 -
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Originally by: Bad Messenger
I am almost sure that taking system in couple hours just because server had some problems and had to reboot twice is exploit.
AFAIK, there was only one reboot - the first one was a normal DT. Which shows how broken the DT advantage is.
Originally by: Bad Messenger
DT spawns yea right, only reason why you could flip those systems were that those are originally gallente systems and at least 5 times easier to capture than gallente systems with gallente occupancy.
But, DT allowed us to actually do it! Again, my original point: we actually got to plex after downtime! To the best of my knowledge, we still need 25-30 net plexes in our favour to do what we did.
I've never tried to say I was a master of plexing mechanics. I've just seen the difference in the number of plexes the few times I'm up after downtime, compared to during my usual playtime, and read CCP greyscales post on the matter and applied some simple stats to the matter to come up with my current opinion.
Originally by: Bad Messenger
If you think that dt plexing is so yber method, can you tell why we have not taken any systems lately? Your arguments lack lot of knowledge about plexing mechanics. All you know is how to exploit, and you say it is right to exploit because there is dt plexing.
I dunno, maybe cause it's all part of your "original plan"?. Maybe you're getting burned out on plexing? (I mean, damar isn't even watching his alts anymore - he only reacts when he hears the locking noise).
All that changed between any normal day and patch is *gasp* we had two downtimes during our time zone. It's nice to see what we can do when we get to plex after downtime. You consider running plexes after downtime an exploit? I'd LOVE to see you petition that. If you succeed well... Who'll get banned, those who did it once, or those who've done it pretty much every single day?
We got a chance to show what we could do when we got a downtime spawn during our TZ - and we took it. The mechanics are back on your side, and from the sounds of it, you'll be back in business soon after rejoining amarr fw (which according to these forums gives you less gallente spawns? I have no first hand knowledge). Why you're *****ing about it on the forum instead of flipping OMS back is beyond my comprehension (oh wait - I do know! It's cause DT hasn't happenned yet so you might as well forum warrioring until it happens).
Your entire argument has been - you ran DT spawns, therefore you exploited, which is hilarious for obvious reasons.
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Unfamed II
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.05.28 09:12:00 -
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Originally by: Neo Gabriel
Its very rewarding reading all the PERV tears.
Bonus reward is that they all seem to have voted for Ankh, which is the person they hated the most in EVE, and they tell themselves that it is to make us suffer.
So they helped put their arch enemy in power (because she was the one would fight for FW obviously), and now that they rage quit because of a chance event, they are trying to make themselves feel good that it was to destroy their play box.
Oh the irony.
You should know better than that, really.
In all seriousness, I do hope that Ankh manages to annoy ccp/csm enough to get some bugfixing done. Protip: Submitting *proper* bugreports actually works. Peace bro.
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Bad Messenger
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.05.28 09:18:00 -
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Originally by: chatgris
Originally by: Bad Messenger
I am almost sure that taking system in couple hours just because server had some problems and had to reboot twice is exploit.
AFAIK, there was only one reboot - the first one was a normal DT. Which shows how broken the DT advantage is.
Originally by: Bad Messenger
DT spawns yea right, only reason why you could flip those systems were that those are originally gallente systems and at least 5 times easier to capture than gallente systems with gallente occupancy.
But, DT allowed us to actually do it! Again, my original point: we actually got to plex after downtime! To the best of my knowledge, we still need 25-30 net plexes in our favour to do what we did.
I've never tried to say I was a master of plexing mechanics. I've just seen the difference in the number of plexes the few times I'm up after downtime, compared to during my usual playtime, and read CCP greyscales post on the matter and applied some simple stats to the matter to come up with my current opinion.
Originally by: Bad Messenger
If you think that dt plexing is so yber method, can you tell why we have not taken any systems lately? Your arguments lack lot of knowledge about plexing mechanics. All you know is how to exploit, and you say it is right to exploit because there is dt plexing.
I dunno, maybe cause it's all part of your "original plan"?. Maybe you're getting burned out on plexing? (I mean, damar isn't even watching his alts anymore - he only reacts when he hears the locking noise).
All that changed between any normal day and patch is *gasp* we had two downtimes during our time zone. It's nice to see what we can do when we get to plex after downtime. You consider running plexes after downtime an exploit? I'd LOVE to see you petition that. If you succeed well... Who'll get banned, those who did it once, or those who've done it pretty much every single day?
We got a chance to show what we could do when we got a downtime spawn during our TZ - and we took it. The mechanics are back on your side, and from the sounds of it, you'll be back in business soon after rejoining amarr fw (which according to these forums gives you less gallente spawns? I have no first hand knowledge). Why you're *****ing about it on the forum instead of flipping OMS back is beyond my comprehension (oh wait - I do know! It's cause DT hasn't happenned yet so you might as well forum warrioring until it happens).
Your entire argument has been - you ran DT spawns, therefore you exploited, which is hilarious for obvious reasons.
There is lot of thingh that differ from normal dt:
1. downloading patch was time so close to server opening that all those who have slow internet could not load it before server started
2. server restart because emergency reboots
main reason why you got those systems was that you wanted to bug those, you did not want to fight just to bug.
no matter how you repeat about normal dt plexing it is different thing. 
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.05.28 09:27:00 -
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Originally by: Bad Messenger
There is lot of thingh that differ from normal dt:
1. downloading patch was time so close to server opening that all those who have slow internet could not load it before server started
2. server restart because emergency reboots
main reason why you got those systems was that you wanted to bug those, you did not want to fight just to bug.
no matter how you repeat about normal dt plexing it is different thing.
1. I ran plexes for about 13 solid hours. I think that gave people a fair amount of time. Also, a caldari fleet came out to try and stop us, and our main fleet stayed and fought them in deven while a few people ran a plex in OMS - similar to what you did when we came to fight you in Ladistier the day before (according to damar).
2. Yes, that gave us one extra downtime
OK, the above obviously we'll never agree on.
But we didn't want to fight!?!? We fought the caldari that came down. The day before in Ladistier, I brought an MDP fleet to face your fleet in Ladistier *IN A PLEX* because *we thought we'd get some pvp*. Instead, you pretty much disbanded your fleet, ran a few to OMS to run plexes, and smack talked in local for 18 excruciating minutes while we twiddled our thumbs waiting for the timer to count down.
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Bad Messenger
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.05.28 09:28:00 -
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tell me why you timed your invasion to patch day?
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.05.28 09:35:00 -
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Originally by: Bad Messenger
tell me why you timed your invasion to patch day?
We didn't plan anything! We logged at patch time (because that is our usual play time, later afternoon US TZ), noticed a ton of plexes in heyd, and ran them. Then we thought "hey, we've got dt on our side, lets scan for more plexes". Found a bunch in OMS, got it close to vulnerable, ran plexes in fliet and deven and managed to push one to OMS to make it vulnerable.
There was no planning - there was surprise at actually having plexes to run in our home system, and we ran them.
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Bad Messenger
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.05.28 09:39:00 -
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Originally by: chatgris
Originally by: Bad Messenger
tell me why you timed your invasion to patch day?
We didn't plan anything! We logged at patch time (because that is our usual play time, later afternoon US TZ), noticed a ton of plexes in heyd, and ran them. Then we thought "hey, we've got dt on our side, lets scan for more plexes". Found a bunch in OMS, got it close to vulnerable, ran plexes in fliet and deven and managed to push one to OMS to make it vulnerable.
There was no planning - there was surprise at actually having plexes to run in our home system, and we ran them.
yea sure  two months no plexing, patch day coming, you attack before patch with all you can, just after patch and then after reboot, NO PLANNING ! JUST COINCIDENCE.
Keep exploiting, you are good at it.
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Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2010.05.28 09:44:00 -
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Originally by: chatgris
I brought an MDP fleet to face your fleet in Ladistier *IN A PLEX* because *we thought we'd get some pvp*. Instead, you pretty much disbanded your fleet, ran a few to OMS to run plexes, and smack talked in local for 18 excruciating minutes while we twiddled our thumbs waiting for the timer to count down.
We broke your formation, brought fleet in and forced you to flee (something which we didnt expect as you still outnumbered us), catching the straggler drake who died. Then INV came, probably on your call. While we could have killed them, we decided to conserve fleet for actual fight.
However, INV then let you take optimal defense formation inside the plex so why should we have bothered to come? We had already killed Gallente by the bucketload and saved Ladistier from flipping.
Do you think we are here for your entertainment? And do you honestly think that we have 30 plexes waiting in every system we want to take. If yes, you are even more clueless than I imagined possible (or you are just lying like you do with insisting you dont know about bugs)
Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.05.28 09:45:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Bad Messenger
yea sure two months no plexing, patch day coming, you attack before patch with all you can, just after patch and then after reboot, NO PLANNING ! JUST COINCIDENCE.
Keep exploiting, you are good at it.
I wasn't around much the day before, but I hear we had some plexes in heyd, and they were ran. It's no secret we'd like to be able to pvp in our home system plexes without being jammed.
You're expecting a lot more central organization than exists (I'm surprised we got a lot of our members to shoot the bunker let alone plex), but I'm kinda flatterred that you seem to view the MDP as this organized entity where people actually follow central goals. Maybe one day it'll be true :)
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Bad Messenger
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.05.28 10:04:00 -
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Originally by: chatgris
Originally by: Bad Messenger
yea sure two months no plexing, patch day coming, you attack before patch with all you can, just after patch and then after reboot, NO PLANNING ! JUST COINCIDENCE.
Keep exploiting, you are good at it.
I wasn't around much the day before, but I hear we had some plexes in heyd, and they were ran. It's no secret we'd like to be able to pvp in our home system plexes without being jammed.
You're expecting a lot more central organization than exists (I'm surprised we got a lot of our members to shoot the bunker let alone plex), but I'm kinda flatterred that you seem to view the MDP as this organized entity where people actually follow central goals. Maybe one day it'll be true :)
Your goal seems to be there where is possibility to bug.
We know what you are. And we know what you asked for. Sometimes your wishes may come to true.
You are clueless so no point to argue anymore.
Have fun o/
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Neo Gabriel
Gallente
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.05.28 10:15:00 -
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Edited by: Neo Gabriel on 28/05/2010 10:19:39
Ok no bull**** post.
I don't know why people were plexing in heyd area before DT. Maybe they were bored out of their minds, maybe there was a nice concentration of plexes available and the consensus at the time was to run them. As had as it may seem to believe, we do run plexes now and then. Maybe it was to spite you and get a fight.
Before Expansion DT, personally, I was witnessing the great Maut cluster**** with great entertainment. I am the kind of person that was already through my ears with wasting time in plexes and I rather waste my time running anomalies in highsec than to run plexes for the hell of it.
When the server came online in US TZ afternoon I was one of the first to log in and buy skills etc. Someone thought of scanning the system for plexes and there was 24 of them or something like that. Sure it's odd for this to happen, usually takes days to pool so many, but trust me, AFAIK it was just a random event. So we ran them at our leisure after we booted a small caldari fleet from heyd. When people started logging in and hearing that we might actually flip heyd everyone got excited and came to help, because GASP, plexing might actually yield a result!
So we are all excited about having flipped heyd, people start scanning plexes in surrounding systems but soon after Heyd Bunker was killed we get the 15 minute warning so we just run a couple of plexes in nearby systems to hopefully get a nice DT spawn in OMS, since it was contested and allegedly close to flipping because of the previous day efforts.
So server comes back up, Heyd is now Gallente occupancy, confirmed by scanning and finding gallente plexes. We actually were kind of mad CCP wouldn't make Heyd ours but our fears lasted only a few minutes.
Someone scans OMS and there are 17 plexes on scan! Of course we all rush there and start running them in a large fleet, all spread out. Lancress comes in, does a scan and even mentions that CCP wants us to win, and starts trying to harass us by opening all plexes and trying to gank us. We force him out because of our quick responses and even gank a few wanna be pirates. 2 plexes bug, probably because we warped out of them to fight pirates and lancress, but they seem to properly de-spawn when we keep people inside for a while.
It wasn't enough to flip OMS, but we continue to plex in Fliet and Deven to hopefully get a spawn after the initial 2 hours. To our surprise 1 plex spawns and we send a small detachment to run it while the rest continue to plex in fliet and Deven and to distract any possible caldari response. System goes vulnerable and we bring another mighty blob and flip it in about 20 minutes, while keeping quiet about the op. After this I logged off because I had been plexing for about 5 hours, must have been some 30 plexes personally (warping around).
So tell me, what about this is an exploit? Are you claiming we knew this was going to happen? That we had something to do with it? You are crazy delusional.
Also, I am sure the eve voice bug made it impossible for squids to mount a counter fleet, but it would have changed nothing in the end.
So, there is nothing wrong about this. If it had been your timezone and there were none of us you would have run down all the plexes yourselves. Does this give us an unfair advantage? You betcha! And we used it! Like you have been using after DT plexing since the beginning (granted I don't think you ever got 24 plexes in 1 system after DT, but its a great advantage nonetheless, because its a permanent "feature").
I bet if you were to do your normal thing you would have 2 systems under your belt in 2 weeks, like when you retook oms a few months back. You are just butthurt that one time we actually used the "intended game mechanics" to our advantage and there was nothing you could do about it. How is the other side of the coin?
I bet you will be back to exploit more "game mechanics" to grief because that is all you do, but don't drag us down to your level. |
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.05.28 10:26:00 -
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Originally by: Damar Rocarion
We broke your formation, brought fleet in and forced you to flee (something which we didnt expect as you still outnumbered us), catching the straggler drake who died.
First off - yes, breaking the formation etc: That was the part where I said you were mincing the general militia fleet. No contest there.
Originally by: Damar Rocarion
Then INV came, probably on your call. While we could have killed them, we decided to conserve fleet for actual fight. However, INV then let you take optimal defense formation inside the plex so why should we have bothered to come? We had already killed Gallente by the bucketload and saved Ladistier from flipping.
Invicta? On our call!?! That's hilarious! You guys view the MDP as some organized entity that's blue with Cry Havoc!?! Wow, just wow. HINT: Invicta fights with us all the time (or rather, we fight and pray they didn't bring a cyno). They could easily crush both of our combined forces with their alliance buddies anytime they want. They have no need to blue with us.
Originally by: Damar Rocarion
Do you think we are here for your entertainment?
Well, yes. I assumed you joined FW to be entertained, as did we. Each side is a potential target, and that's where the fun is. Why else would you join FW, if not to be entertained?
Originally by: Damar Rocarion
And do you honestly think that we have 30 plexes waiting in every system we want to take. If yes, you are even more clueless than I imagined possible (or you are just lying like you do with insisting you dont know about bugs)
You don't always have 30 plexes, but you do get to routinely choose the best spawns in the locations you want to run them in when there are very few people on to oppose you, and leave the leftovers that aren't bugged for anyone else who cares to plex later.
Anyways, this is ridiculous. If you truly believe the MDP is some organized entity with these multi-month long plans around system occupancy who send Invicta to do our bidding (over a PLEX no less!) then wow. You should fire your spies RIGHT NOW. |
Noob Shadow
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Posted - 2010.05.28 10:28:00 -
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Pervs are so ghey.
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.05.28 10:34:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Noob Shadow
Pervs are so ghey.
*Kuolematon likes this*
"The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of goldcrap"
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Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2010.05.28 10:40:00 -
[42]
Originally by: chatgris
First off - yes, breaking the formation etc: That was the part where I said you were mincing the general militia fleet. No contest there.
You were inside with a hurricane along with other MDP corp members. So this is "random noob fleet from militia". Righto....
Perhaps you need to look on the pirate rapier kill again, you the know which enables you to claim victory since you can put isk ratio higher on your killboard.
Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.05.28 10:45:00 -
[43]
Edited by: chatgris on 28/05/2010 10:47:20
Originally by: Damar Rocarion
Originally by: chatgris
First off - yes, breaking the formation etc: That was the part where I said you were mincing the general militia fleet. No contest there.
You were inside with a hurricane along with other MDP corp members. So this is "random noob fleet from militia". Righto....
Perhaps you need to look on the pirate rapier kill again, you the know which enables you to claim victory since you can put isk ratio higher on your killboard.
Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General
Pro tip - An MDP member or two can join a fleet and not be in charge.
Claiming victory? Where did I claim victory? All I said was that you ran away as soon as I took over FC and brought in an organized fleet. And I used that as a counter to BM claiming that "we don't want to fight we just want to bug plexes".
Anyways, enough of this thread. I wish I lived in this fantasy world you paint where Cry Havoc would go where I want let alone not shoot me, and the MDP pulled off these great long planned schemes (or, you know, planned at all ;) ).
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Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2010.05.28 10:52:00 -
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Edited by: Damar Rocarion on 28/05/2010 10:53:13
Originally by: chatgris
Where did I claim victory?
Pro-Tip, watch local....
I'm also fed up with this thread. Gallentes exploit and nothing convinces me otherwise and you can continue to feign your ignorance until the sun dies. Just today I witnessed another gallente pull off the "lets bug timer and warp off trick".
As I have repeatedly said, Nennamaila incident was the final thing which removed any remaining doubts whether or not Gallente militia (aside from Hussain) was worthy of respect or even common courtesy.
And whether or not Cry Havoc does what you will, nothing removes the fact that they only went after Caldari while leaving Gallente alone despite you destroying their Rapier.
Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General
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Havegooda
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.05.28 10:54:00 -
[45]
Oh damn, Invicta does what we tell them now?! OH EMM GEE
I leave for a couple weeks and we're not only blue, but we're their overlords as well? My my times have changed.
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X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.05.28 12:55:00 -
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Edited by: X Gallentius on 28/05/2010 12:55:27
chatgris and many others didn't plan anything they just came along for the ride. in his case, he actually lead the effort once it got going. Great job chat!
Yes, (even though according to many we don't understand plexing mechanics...) there's a reason there were a ton of plexes available in Essence right before the patch and there's a reason why there was a concerted effort to plex right before and after the patch.
What is not well-understood is why the Caldari did nothing about it beforehand. And then the counter plexing fleet in Ladistier was inadequate before the patch (PERVS, well PERVS put up a fight but nobody else came to help them), right after the patch (small CDI gang, nobody helped them), and later that evening in Deven (?? wasn't there). And the pirates in OMS weren't strong enough either.
The only thing our opponents are really complaining about is the fact that the bulk of our forces don't plex every day like they do. But that's fine. We do what we want when we want to do it - not what they want when they want us to do it.
And please drop the pie alliance references. Most of us hate them as much as you and they try to gank whoever they want when they want to as well.
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Aggammenonn
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Posted - 2010.05.28 12:59:00 -
[47]
LOL, the best that can be hoped for with Invicta is that they will leave us alone, but you forget that they still hate the Pervs Damar. You guys are probably the most hated corp inFW at least, if not the game and just cause Invicta isnt FW anymore doesnt mean they forgot about you.
As for why you're having trouble recapturing systems, I wonder if it has something to do with the fact that you get the after dt plexs and we get most of the rest? You arent the only plexers out there, some of the Gallente milita plex most of the day.
In short, since you cant beat us fairly or even with your after dt advantage, you decided to claim we exploit to justify your jumping to Amarr soley to exploit that standings bug... I just hope that this backfires on you, you get no systems and DIE alot... I will have your pod one of these days Damar...
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Dr Deadbolt
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.05.28 13:25:00 -
[48]
pervs tears = best tears
unfotunately the whine made from the tears is very sour
Dr Deadbolt
Luminaire General
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Cosmic Raider
Solo Plex
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Posted - 2010.05.28 13:41:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Aggammenonn
In short, since you cant beat us fairly...
I am loathe to jump into this because of all the horrible smack going on, but this comment is a bit much.
Some people seem to forget these impressive recapturing of their main systems were a direct result of CCP changing the game mechanics (enabling rapid plex pile ups) because Caldari occupied and held all Caldari and Gallente FW space for six months.
So congrats on retaking Heydielles (QCATS home system) and OMS (your front door).
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Aggammenonn
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Posted - 2010.05.28 14:20:00 -
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Well, Cant deny that when I started in fw, we only had a handful of systems but most of what was taken back was done the hard way. A good example is Intaki, we fought over that system for weeks, Damar and his alts would get the after dt plexs and we would be scanning it for the rest of the day hoping that we would get a plex or two, it took damn near 3 weeks to contest it then make it vulnerable. Now once we took Intaki, there was a surge of general milita interest and we were able to take back most of placid in rapid order. There has been more or less a stalemate for 2 months now, then we caught that break with the plexs in heyd, oms and Lad. They can say what they want but every system we took, was an average of at least 100 pilot hours.
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Unfamed II
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.05.28 14:34:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Aggammenonn
They can say what they want but every system we took, was an average of at least 100 pilot hours.
Just curious, where did you get that number?
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Osiris04
Gallente
Colonial Marines EVE Division
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Posted - 2010.05.28 14:53:00 -
[52]
Sigh...
I have never (personally) known any of the plexers to purposefully use the timer bug to their advantage. I see the bug happening, for both Caldari and Gallente, but it is always after somebody warps out due to aggro or a WT entering the plex. I myself was accused by BM of exploiting in Ladistier when my alt couldn't handle aggro in a plex. Of course he jumped to the conclusion "OMG exploitzzz!!1". A petition and bug report was filed by myself and I was told "this is a known issue an is random so hasn't been fixed yet".
I don't know why the PeRvS are so adamant that our whole militia uses it intentionally, more than likely just to troll and get the current response, maybe to justify their plexing "ethics"....
I have lost a lot of respect for the pErVs due to their incessant ramblings, like a grandparent that you used to love before they became senile and incontinent.
Shame really.
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Greg6
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Posted - 2010.05.28 15:08:00 -
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Edited by: Greg6 on 28/05/2010 15:11:06
OK, all you folk who can't enjoy this thread have no sense of humor, nor irony. Watching the pervs simultaneously accuse us of being so masterful with the mechanics as to be able to use exploits to our advantage, and then say we obviously don't know that much about plexing mechanics is simply total win sauce. We're both smart enough to plan a major push for a patch created (and thus unpredictable) down time, and dumb enough to be ignorant of the details of how plexing works.
If only there were enough Gallente who shared my sick sense of humor. We'd take every FW system in space just for the joy of watching the Pervs cry, whine, and twist logic into a salty pretzel while they lost. I haven't had this much fun in a game since I don't know when. Rest assured, if I could I'd use every exploit available, just like you Pervs do. Now, say on, Pervs, because your twisted thinking is giving me great entertainment thus far....:)
PS: Qcats may not have been plexing much in the days before the downtime, but they aren't the only plexers on the field. In fact, another non-MDP corp, had been plexing the Heyd area regularly for the past week or so. It was their efforts that created the bubble.....
PPS: In terms of time to plex, I kept track of how many pilots plexed for how long over the final 48 hours to flipping Heyd and OMS. Multiply the number of hours plexed by the number of pilots plexing and you get pilot hours needed to flip both systems. Gallente plexed for over 300 pilot hours in the 48 hours that lead up to the flipping of both systems, based on the plexing fleets I personally was aware of during that time. Could be more if there were folk plexing that I didn't know about, but there is no way it was less.
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Aiden Vorlan
Caldari
Draconian Armada
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Posted - 2010.05.28 15:29:00 -
[54]
Edited by: Aiden Vorlan on 28/05/2010 15:33:57
Originally by: Aiden Vorlan
Originally by: chatgris
Second system in a row! To all the Pervs, you'll have dt back in your favour soon, so don't worry too much :)
27 May 2010 @ 2257 EST - Old Man Star
Occupancy: Caldari State
Sovereignty: Gallente Federation
Just quoting my original post on the matter. It seems people missed it.
PIRATE EDIT! (Because Pirates > Ninjas)
I didn't join Fleet Warfare and the Caldari militia to whine about stupid crap. Wow, they took plexes and, thus, took the system. Grats, Gallente! All this whining - especially by kids who aren't even in the Caldari State militia anymore is pathetic. I have 2 million skill points, and I've been told I have balls for throwing myself into PvP so quickly. But if this is all PvP consists of, just children crying because "whaaa, I lost my important internet spaceship pixels whaaaa!" (reference to a corporation there..or an alliance, I dunno' which :D), I think I'll go back to "carebearing", because at least carebears appear to have more dignity.
First to fight for right and freedom,
And to keep our honor clean!
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Bad Messenger
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.05.28 15:36:00 -
[55]
Edited by: Bad Messenger on 28/05/2010 15:36:46
Originally by: Osiris04
Edited by: Osiris04 on 28/05/2010 15:08:44
Sigh...
I have never (personally) known any of the plexers to purposefully use the timer bug to their advantage. I see the bug happening, for both Caldari and Gallente, but it is always after somebody warps out due to aggro or a WT entering the plex. I myself was accused by BM of exploiting in Ladistier when my alt couldn't handle aggro in a plex. Of course he jumped to the conclusion "OMG exploitzzz!!1". A petition and bug report was filed by myself and I was told "this is a known issue an is random so hasn't been fixed yet".
I don't know why the PeRvS are so adamant that our whole militia uses it intentionally, more than likely just to troll and get the current response, maybe to justify their plexing "ethics"....
I have lost a lot of respect for the pErVs due to their incessant ramblings, like a grandparent that you used to love before they became senile and incontinent.
Shame really.
*Edit: Not all PERVS... some of you guys are still OK  .
You are quite old militia member i am sure that you know how bad npc is. So putting low sp alt to plex with lousy fitting and then warping of and bugging timer is only cover up to exploit.
maybe i just start to fly some bantams and warp away from every plex because i could not handle agro, is that exploiting then ? i am sure it is.
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Cromwell Savage
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.05.28 16:27:00 -
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Edited by: Cromwell Savage on 28/05/2010 16:27:42
Sweet Mary Mother of....
All this thread confirms is that the PERVS have been orbiting buttons for far too long... Time to find something else for a while guys. Damn. |
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.05.28 19:18:00 -
[57]
Edited by: chatgris on 28/05/2010 19:25:55
Originally by: Aiden Vorlan
Edited by: Aiden Vorlan on 28/05/2010 15:33:57
Originally by: Aiden Vorlan
Originally by: chatgris
Second system in a row! To all the Pervs, you'll have dt back in your favour soon, so don't worry too much :)
27 May 2010 @ 2257 EST - Old Man Star
Occupancy: Caldari State
Sovereignty: Gallente Federation
Just quoting my original post on the matter. It seems people missed it.
It was bugged, but it showed correctly on the star map (as opposed to the system info in the top left of the screen). It's updated now if you care to wander by OMS.
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2010.05.28 20:00:00 -
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Aaah, I get fond memories of the anxiety attacks I had defending Lantorn/Sisiede back in the day
Every time the hamsters coughed there would be DT respawns present. When data-base coughed server could restart multiple times before coming online leaving whole damn plex streaks in those two systems .. every restart reshuffles plexes, even when the restart is aborted prior to coming fully online.
Summary: Plex mechanics are borked. They do not amuse me one bit. |
Seriphyn Inhonores
Gallente
Moira. Vanguard
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Posted - 2010.05.29 01:04:00 -
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Originally by: Damar Rocarion
Edited by: Damar Rocarion on 28/05/2010 10:53:13
Originally by: chatgris
Where did I claim victory?
StuffÖ
Damar Rocarion
Paladin Crusader
Fixed that for you.
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Luminaire General Seriphyn Inhonores [TAGMA]
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Cosmic Raider
Solo Plex
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Posted - 2010.05.29 05:22:00 -
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I am a fortunate person.
I count Bad Messenger, Damar, and Chatgris amongst my friends in the game. I'm pleased to say that. I wish they could all see themselves as I see them. I'm sorry that they do not agree.
The fact is that Gal/Cal plexing has been a hard fought and bitter campaign - much more than anyone not involved would understand. I salute my opponents and honor their commitment.
With respect,
Cosmic
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Sneaky Noob
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2010.05.29 23:44:00 -
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plex plex plex plix plox
srsly
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Pivot P'tesh
MicroFunks
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Posted - 2010.05.30 02:51:00 -
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After two years there is still so much emo going on between you guys? FFS get over it.
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Syekuda
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Posted - 2010.05.31 22:19:00 -
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in before the "working as intended" post
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Hidden Snake
Caldari
Inglorious-Basterds
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Posted - 2010.06.01 10:51:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Damar Rocarion
Edited by: Damar Rocarion on 27/05/2010 11:27:45
Originally by: chatgris
The "exploit" (I prefer bug, officially it is a "non-optimal" implementation according to CCP) that the Gallente have been complaining about for a year now?
1: Admitted bugging of timers to run down itself (Aesis Tori, entire Black Onyx Society corporation, many others). Done by yourself in Jovainnon as you well know.
2: Turning npcs to fire on friendly militia (Amon Dei, Val Erian, others). Repeatedly done, best remembered for Nennamaila incident.
3: Using a fast ship to cause "ghost time" to appear on plex timer, forcing whoever is on plex to sit random amount of extra minutes (worst being over an hour in Esesier plex, triggered by Val Erian) inside a plex, giving other side unreasonable advantage to rally up more people.
4: Continuous denial of acknowleding such things are done and no knowledge of their function despite Val Erian, Ankh and others outlining the exploits and how they work in your militia chat and people boasting in local about their use.
Ankh we even petitioned and supplied militia logs to CCP. Despite this blatant offense, no action taken.
Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General
I am quite a plexer (not so much like pervs but still I was with 22nd BRDU and MCB) and I am running very pvp oriented corp too. But current buggy mechanics is worse then the time of FW beginning (i am in it from the stone age of the FW). I can fully understand why pervs are moving - but IBS/CDI has already took the part of kills ;).
These bugs are the reason, why I really expect CCP will fire the people responsible for FW mechanics development + the GMs in the area, because honestly all little frogies - whenever u exploit they look elsewhere, whenever I complain they laugh in my face and I nearly got banned from forums/channels.
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Bad Messenger
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.06.01 11:17:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Hidden Snake
These bugs are the reason, why I really expect CCP will fire the people responsible for FW mechanics development + the GMs in the area, because honestly all little frogies - whenever u exploit they look elsewhere, whenever I complain they laugh in my face and I nearly got banned from forums/channels.
This.
CCP lets people exploit 23/7, ankh is telling in gallente militia channel how to exploits work and encourages people to use those because caldari uses those too.
And do they ban Ankh when she is telling those? ( clearly violating eula )
No. CCP does not ban Anhk, they put she as CSM.
So you are right Hidden Snake, CCP lets gallente to exploit. Why? I do not know, maybe CCP wants to answer?
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Bhramin
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Posted - 2010.06.01 11:21:00 -
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your in total denial, everybody knows the pervs are expert explioters, i'd take it as a compliment, even now they have dropped caldari militia and joined armarr militia just so they dont get a full spawn of gallente rats when plexing... i'd expect better from you Hidden Snake
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Bad Messenger
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.06.01 11:22:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Bhramin
your in total denial, everybody knows the pervs are expert explioters, i'd take it as a compliment, even now they have dropped caldari militia and joined armarr militia just so they dont get a full spawn of gallente rats when plexing... i'd expect better from you Hidden Snake
Have you seen any PERVS in plex taking gallente plexes, after we changed militia?
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Bhramin
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Posted - 2010.06.01 11:29:00 -
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yes is the simple answer, i think you know who, it begins with D. If this wasnt the only reason for the switch to amar why are you still living in ladister... like i said you are expert exploiters and you know it, and i do mean it as a compliment :)
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X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.06.01 15:19:00 -
[69]
"Exploiters" is a harsh word. PERVS are "masters of plexing mechanics."
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Bad Messenger
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.06.01 16:55:00 -
[70]
Originally by: X Gallentius
Edited by: X Gallentius on 01/06/2010 15:29:55
"Exploiters" is a harsh word. PERVS are "masters of plexing mechanics."
Maybe Amarr FW missions pay out more than Caldari FW missions (?)
You get more lp but lp store items are not so good. We want also some standing for amarr cosmos missions etc.
We did eveything in caldari militia, nothing more to achieve.
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Bhramin
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Posted - 2010.06.01 17:10:00 -
[71]
Originally by: X Gallentius
Edited by: X Gallentius on 01/06/2010 15:29:55
"Exploiters" is a harsh word. PERVS are "masters of plexing mechanics."
I agree, i merely meant experts in exploiting the loop holes in the plexing mechanics, i wasnt suggesting any "cheating" because i dont believe it to be so
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Andreus LeHane
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2010.06.01 19:15:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Hidden Snake
These bugs are the reason, why I really expect CCP will fire the people responsible for FW mechanics development + the GMs in the area, because honestly all little frogies - whenever u exploit they look elsewhere, whenever I complain they laugh in my face and I nearly got banned from forums/channels.
You're pathetic. Whatever you claim to believe, you know for a fact that the Caldari militia, members of PERVS in particular, have used bugs and inconsistencies in the system to their advantage just as much, if not more, than the Gallente have. The simple, sad fact is that I have heard everything that's being said right now before - the Gallente were saying it when you were winning, and I'm honest enough to admit that I was among them. The fact is, the broken mechanics that usually favour your side didn't this time, you lost two systems and you're all crying your eyes out about hacking and exploits, all the while telling us we're the ones who're raged. Just two systems, two systems that didn't even belong to you in the first place!
What I want to know is why you're so emotionally invested in the Caldari winning. Why do you care so much?
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.06.01 19:19:00 -
[73]
This whole thread is a good example of why I pulled my main's corporation out of faction warfare.
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Hidden Snake
Caldari
Inglorious-Basterds
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Posted - 2010.06.02 06:39:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Andrea Griffin
This whole thread is a good example of why I pulled my main's corporation out of faction warfare.
Actually it is still better then CAOD discussions about nullsec. If you ignore teenagers it still gives very nice portions of fights and fun. Unfortunately plexing is broken more and more and ccp is just covering people responsible.
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Hidden Snake
Caldari
Inglorious-Basterds
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Posted - 2010.06.02 06:44:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Andrea Griffin
This whole thread is a good example of why I pulled my main's corporation out of faction warfare.
Actually it is still better then CAOD discussions about nullsec. If you ignore teenagers it still gives very nice portions of fights and fun. Unfortunately plexing is broken more and more and ccp is just covering people responsible.
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Rashmika Clavain
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.06.02 09:29:00 -
[76]
rofl the tears in this thread are most ironic.
Clearly the Gallente were "exploiting" for daring to take a system before patch downtime.
Oh and to say CCP ignores the Caldari petitions, it's just the same for the Gallaente petitions which are also ignored. Save the "CCP favours Gallente" rubbish. I thought you were better than that.
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BacardiDesire
0utbreak
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Posted - 2010.06.02 10:23:00 -
[77]
this one time at bandcamp seriously let gallente recap back the last 4 or 5 systems, and FW will be reset. The much wanted reset after gallente sucked and FW was over
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Tosi
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.06.03 01:42:00 -
[78]
i think someone asked me for a killmail of old man star, can someone point me to right direction? ;P
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Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2010.06.03 13:06:00 -
[79]
Edited by: Damar Rocarion on 03/06/2010 13:06:57
Originally by: Aggammenonn
I will have your pod one of these days Damar...
Score is 1-0 then. You probably have a week or two before I stop being militia war target so better hurry.
Damar Rocarion
"insert title here"
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Bad Messenger
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.06.03 13:11:00 -
[80]
Originally by: BacardiDesire
this one time at bandcamp seriously let gallente recap back the last 4 or 5 systems, and FW will be reset. The much wanted reset after gallente sucked and FW was over
Nothing has changed , they still do and fw is over
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TooNu
Caldari
Costolle Military Assistance Corporation
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Posted - 2010.06.03 15:24:00 -
[81]
I own a Damar Rocarion corpse, I will trade only for a Bad Messenger  |
Dr Deadbolt
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.06.03 15:43:00 -
[82]
Originally by: TooNu
I own a Damar Rocarion corpse, I will trade only for a Bad Messenger
I too have one of these
with such a fat arse , i buried his legs and torso in the ground and park my harley by sticking the front wheel between his cheeks.
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Aggammenonn
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Posted - 2010.06.03 15:44:00 -
[83]
http://www.gallente.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=6688439
I have gotten your alt before
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Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2010.06.03 17:13:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Aggammenonn
I have gotten your alt before
It's all you can hope to get. Not exactly a rarity though, bit like saying that Ford Escort has as much value as vintage Cadillac
Damar Rocarion
"Insert title here"
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Aggammenonn
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Posted - 2010.06.03 18:28:00 -
[85]
idk, exactly how many do you have? Seems a bit odd to have so many alts for plexing... maybe even a bit obssessive compulsive.
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Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2010.06.03 19:41:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Aggammenonn
idk, exactly how many do you have? Seems a bit odd to have so many alts for plexing... maybe even a bit obssessive compulsive.
You dont have much clue how much isk we made by reprocessing our plexing alts who turned standings to COSMOS implants worth 600-800m each. Others can do high-sec missions or whatnot, we invested few million to 60k sp alts in t1 frigs and turned them to billions of isk....
Of course the FW missions becoming new goldmine sort of removed the need for them but we can still do few COSMOS missions. I think one guy stands to profit 8 billion from them when he activates his old account (since there is definete isk to be made there compared to normal GTC).
Damar Rocarion
"Insert title here"
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Aggammenonn
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Posted - 2010.06.03 23:37:00 -
[87]
Sin÷ olet vaativa tekijStyyppi, jolla on ylemmyyden komplikaatio
Cant gurantee the accuracy of this but its suppose to say your obsessive compulsive.
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Andreus LeHane
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2010.06.04 00:25:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Aggammenonn
Sin÷ olet vaativa tekijStyyppi, jolla on ylemmyyden komplikaatio
Cant gurantee the accuracy of this but its suppose to say your obsessive compulsive.
Might I suggest "Damar, EVE on sinulle selkeSsti pakkomielle. PidemmSn pSSlle tSmS ei voi olla kovin terveellistS sinulle"? |
Gallactica
Gallente
Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2010.06.04 09:09:00 -
[89]
Jeez, such animosity between everyone!
End of the day if you don't like it, move on and go do something else - it's your ú15 (x how many accounts you have) Some people will take advantage of game mechanics, it's human nature.
Supposed to be fun isn't it?
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Bad Messenger
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.06.04 11:16:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Aggammenonn
idk, exactly how many do you have? Seems a bit odd to have so many alts for plexing... maybe even a bit obssessive compulsive.
I have 8 chars who are caldari brigadier generals, 5 characters who have high minmatar/gallente standing.
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