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Dan Garvin	Posted - 2010.05.27 22:01:00 - [1] Jita is being limited to 1000 ships. Large amount of ships are being Massacred because they cant jump the gate. Limiting Jita to 1000 ships is going to ruin it as a trading hub and ruin the economy of a lot of players. This will also effect the market in a bad way.
Breaker77 Gallente Reclamation Industries	Posted - 2010.05.27 22:02:00 - [2] Originally by: Dan Garvin This will also effect the market in a bad way. So you are saying the the ships that do make it in can sell their stuff for more ISK? Thats not a bad thing at all
Professor Leech Transmetropolitan	Posted - 2010.05.27 22:23:00 - [3] So jita is a functional system now? I'm outraged! There will be an effect on the market: it will go up or down, and you should buy or sell. Originally by: Crawe DeRaven this thread is obviously going places
Gizan Hounds Of War Shadows of Light	Posted - 2010.05.27 23:01:00 - [4] PIRATES REJOICE AT GOOD SUICIDE GANKING!!!! now you can fit up a discoball or 2 and sit on the jita gate in new caldari and suicde gank 5-10 haulers in 1 whack 1:find target 2:discoball 3:???? 4:MASSIVE profit!!
Yuki Kulotsuki	Posted - 2010.05.28 03:21:00 - [5] Edited by: Yuki Kulotsuki on 28/05/2010 03:21:55 Originally by: Gizan PIRATES REJOICE AT GOOD SUICIDE GANKING!!!! now you can fit up a discoball or 2 and sit on the jita gate in new caldari and suicde gank 5-10 haulers in 1 whack 1:find target 2:discoball 3:???? 4:MASSIVE profit!! Piracy experts are calling this an economic care package. Originally by: CCP Lemur THIS IS GOD: ... IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE REQUESTS I'M AVAILABLE SUNDAY FROM 10:30 TO 12:00 TO RECEIVE YOUR PRAYERS.
Brock Nelson Caldari Flux Technologies Inc SRS.	Posted - 2010.05.28 04:16:00 - [6] Welcome to 6 months ago http://tinyurl.com/yhy6ay7Store[/url
Blood Recuse	Posted - 2010.05.28 04:39:00 - [7] I thought Obama was supposed to fix that ?
Shar Tegral	Posted - 2010.05.28 05:12:00 - [8] Originally by: Blood Recuse Real life politic statement made by idiot I don't care what your actual belief is or disbelief either. Tossing in political trolling is vastly inappropriate and highly disruptive. You may think you are cute or whatever internet lulz that is motivating you I think you should really be clear that some things are just not funny, not cute, and not tolerated. Mind you, I'm not really hammering you or even trying to flame you. I'm actually trying to help you as you can find yourself quickly without the ability to post if you don't get a clue on this particular topic. Trust me, I've watched people crash and burn trolling with politics. It ain't pretty and, sadly, the only thing I remember about them is that it ain't pretty. Not their names though... since they are gone why bother remembering them. Wealth, howsoever got, in Eve makes Lords of morons and gentlemen of thieves; Aptitude and intellect are needless here; 'Tis impudence and money that grants fame.
Pascal Lorot	Posted - 2010.05.28 05:31:00 - [9] Edited by: Pascal Lorot on 28/05/2010 05:32:06 Originally by: Shar Tegral Originally by: Blood Recuse Real life politic statement made by idiot Oh noes, I'm way too politically correct for teh internets Wow, someone's got their panties in a bundle over a harmless yet childish joke. I think it's time to undock the disco'geddons again.
Shar Tegral	Posted - 2010.05.28 05:32:00 - [10] Originally by: Pascal Lorot Wow, someone's got their panties in a bundle over a harmless yet childish joke. You sir, are a muppet. Wealth, howsoever got, in Eve makes Lords of morons and gentlemen of thieves; Aptitude and intellect are needless here; 'Tis impudence and money that grants fame.
Tehg Rhind	Posted - 2010.05.28 05:35:00 - [11] I for one am quite sorry to hear about bad stuff happening to Jita. However...if you have any difficulties buying stuff, please come on down to Domain.
Wyke Mossari Gallente Staner Industries	Posted - 2010.05.28 07:13:00 - [12] Originally by: Shar Tegral Originally by: Pascal Lorot Wow, someone's got their panties in a bundle over a harmless yet childish joke. You sir, are a muppet. QFT. On the original issue as an anarcho-capitalist I say burn Jita, burn.
Hel O'Ween Men On A Mission	Posted - 2010.05.28 08:55:00 - [13] Originally by: Dan Garvin Jita is being limited to 1000 ships. Large amount of ships are being Massacred because they cant jump the gate. Limiting Jita to 1000 ships is going to ruin it as a trading hub and ruin the economy of a lot of players. This will also effect the market in a bad way. Did Jita die after Dominion? No? Then tell me why not, because they did the same thing last time: on/after patch, limit Jita local. Just like they disable the API. (And I'm sure a few other things are done as well, like intensive logging for the first couple of days). This is all done to prevent lag issues to be mistaken as patch issues. Give it a few hours/days and Jita will be back to "normal". Oh, BTW, do it like me: avoid Jita like the plague. Problem solved. -- EVEWalletAware - an offline wallet manager
Devil tiger	Posted - 2010.05.28 09:06:00 - [14] Or get those dang trade-skills up and sell/buy your stuff at perimeter/new caldari etc system next to jita. instead of Jita itself.
munkape	Posted - 2010.05.28 09:45:00 - [15] I think this is just a good opportunity to find some where new to create a new trade hub. Maybe it's to mix things up a little bit, anyone whose got power in Jita should team up with each other and go create a new trade hub and take advantage of this.
Spatiopathe	Posted - 2010.05.28 14:53:00 - [16] Theses limits should certainly improved performance of server. yet, at the moment, its the panic on jita market, and there's 30scd or more for refresh it price. And for the game it was ridiculous to have only one super-hub. where there's hundred of system. It will probably help to renforce the 3 other hub in assets. (dodixie amarr and rens). But there's another suprise for 0.0 alliance. if system are limited to 1000 players... how the hell can they invade a system if more than half of the slot are already taken by defenders ? hello 650defenders, only 350 player can jump in system, good luck !!
Yiulian	Posted - 2010.05.28 14:58:00 - [17] Originally by: Spatiopathe Theses limits should certainly improved performance of server. yet, at the moment, its the panic on jita market, and there's 30scd or more for refresh it price. Ehrm what? There is neither panic, nor a 30second delay
Shar Tegral	Posted - 2010.05.28 15:26:00 - [18] Originally by: Spatiopathe And for the game it was ridiculous to have only one super-hub. where there's hundred of system. And here we have yet another person commenting on what they think is "by design" instead of realizing that the situation simply just happened. CCP did try to keep from having a superhub happen. Really, they did. The first one was effectively neutralized way back - it was Yulai. CCP created the "highway" system, the fast cross regional jumps that exist now, effectively killing Yulai's centralized location. Jita is not centrally located however other factors, no longer existent, made Jita attractive. Jita grew until it has become totally self sustaining no matter what CCP, or players, do. That is other than shut down the stations. There, that is your quick history lesson for the day. Might I point out that research prevents hoof in mouth disease. Assumption however is not a very good lubricant when you are shoving your head up your 4th point of contact. Wealth, howsoever got, in Eve makes Lords of morons and gentlemen of thieves; Aptitude and intellect are needless here; 'Tis impudence and money that grants fame.
FunzzeR Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS	Posted - 2010.05.28 15:31:00 - [19] Originally by: Dan Garvin Jita is being limited to 1000 ships. Large amount of ships are being Massacred because they cant jump the gate. Limiting Jita to 1000 ships is going to ruin it as a trading hub and ruin the economy of a lot of players. This will also effect the market in a bad way. Cross posting in half a dozen other forum sections is bad... Anyways at the topic at hand there are more productive ways to adapt these temporary issue than whining about it. Moving to another hub, using those remote tradeskills, use another gate, are all very valid options. Am I the only one who is starting to feel that this is shaping up to be one of the most amusing patches in CCP's recent history? PRAISE THE SCOTTISH FOLD!! THEIR WILL SHALL BE DONE!!
Yiulian Boathouse Industries	Posted - 2010.05.28 16:03:00 - [20] Originally by: Shar Tegral Originally by: Spatiopathe And for the game it was ridiculous to have only one super-hub. where there's hundred of system. And here we have yet another person commenting on what they think is "by design" instead of realizing that the situation simply just happened. CCP did try to keep from having a superhub happen. Really, they did. The first one was effectively neutralized way back - it was Yulai. CCP created the "highway" system, the fast cross regional jumps that exist now, effectively killing Yulai's centralized location. Jita is not centrally located however other factors, no longer existent, made Jita attractive. Jita grew until it has become totally self sustaining no matter what CCP, or players, do. That is other than shut down the stations. There, that is your quick history lesson for the day. Might I point out that research prevents hoof in mouth disease. Assumption however is not a very good lubricant when you are shoving your head up your 4th point of contact. Shar since you recently accused me (perhaps rightly) of inferring things from your post that weren't there, I would point out that Spatiopathe doesn't actually say anywhere in her post that Jita being a mega trade-hub is in any way 'by design' Merely that it was ridiculous that there IS a super-hub when there are hundreds of systems. The rest, I'm afraid, is purely inference on your part, which makes the subsequent comment uncalled for. Practice what you preach, which is something which you should be familiar with after all ;-)
Charlemagne	Posted - 2010.05.28 16:28:00 - [21] Edited by: Charlemagne on 28/05/2010 16:30:05 Edited by: Charlemagne on 28/05/2010 16:28:43 Originally by: Shar Tegral Originally by: Blood Recuse Real life politic statement made by idiot I don't care what your actual belief is or disbelief either. Tossing in political trolling is vastly inappropriate and highly disruptive. You may think you are cute or whatever internet lulz that is motivating you I think you should really be clear that some things are just not funny, not cute, and not tolerated. Mind you, I'm not really hammering you or even trying to flame you. I'm actually trying to help you as you can find yourself quickly without the ability to post if you don't get a clue on this particular topic. Trust me, I've watched people crash and burn trolling with politics. It ain't pretty and, sadly, the only thing I remember about them is that it ain't pretty. Not their names though... since they are gone why bother remembering them. Originally by: Shar Tegral Originally by: Pascal Lorot Wow, someone's got their panties in a bundle over a harmless yet childish joke. You sir, are a muppet. Originally by: Shar Tegral Originally by: Spatiopathe And for the game it was ridiculous to have only one super-hub. where there's hundred of system. And here we have yet another person commenting on what they think is "by design" instead of realizing that the situation simply just happened. CCP did try to keep from having a superhub happen. Really, they did. The first one was effectively neutralized way back - it was Yulai. CCP created the "highway" system, the fast cross regional jumps that exist now, effectively killing Yulai's centralized location. Jita is not centrally located however other factors, no longer existent, made Jita attractive. Jita grew until it has become totally self sustaining no matter what CCP, or players, do. That is other than shut down the stations. There, that is your quick history lesson for the day. Might I point out that research prevents hoof in mouth disease. Assumption however is not a very good lubricant when you are shoving your head up your 4th point of contact. Wow. Who died and made you king of the world? Your posts in this thread have got to be one of the most flagrant examples of flaming/trolling that I've come across in a while, by a "muppet" who claims to be so much holier than anyone else. Shar Tegral = total hypocrite. Oh yeah, and lest I forget this wholly inappropriate tidbit from this thread: Originally by: Shar Tegral Reported as follows: Redundant/duplicate thread. OP took responses for several active threads and put it all into one thread all of his own. It creates no new topic, just satisfies "look at me" needs. Are you always like this or is it just "that time of the month" again? Charlemagne

CCP Adida	Posted - 2010.05.28 16:37:00 - [22] Removed real life politics discussions from the thread along with trolling comments. Adida Community Rep CCP Hf, EVE Online

Yiulian Boathouse Industries	Posted - 2010.05.28 16:43:00 - [23] Removed quotes of posts that are no longer there - Adida You missed one.
Takakura Hirohito	Posted - 2010.05.28 17:31:00 - [24] Originally by: Spatiopathe But there's another suprise for 0.0 alliance. if system are limited to 1000 players... how the hell can they invade a system if more than half of the slot are already taken by defenders ? hello 650defenders, only 350 player can jump in system, good luck !! Systems in 0.0 are not limited. They just lag to hell, like they always have (well, more lag since dominion).
Diomedes Calypso	Posted - 2010.05.28 18:02:00 - [25] Originally by: Takakura Hirohito Originally by: Spatiopathe But there's another suprise for 0.0 alliance. if system are limited to 1000 players... how the hell can they invade a system if more than half of the slot are already taken by defenders ? hello 650defenders, only 350 player can jump in system, good luck !! Systems in 0.0 are not limited. They just lag to hell, like they always have (well, more lag since dominion). Or the other way around, get a fleet in when the other side isn't ready and you own the system... wars might be fought by who can log in the most quickest after down time
Shar Tegral	Posted - 2010.05.28 18:33:00 - [26] Originally by: Charlemagne Are you always like this or is it just "that time of the month" again? As a gentleman, I never ask/answer such questions. Wealth, howsoever got, in Eve makes Lords of morons and gentlemen of thieves; Aptitude and intellect are needless here; 'Tis impudence and money that grants fame.

CCP Adida	Posted - 2010.05.28 18:40:00 - [27] Originally by: Yiulian Removed quotes of posts that are no longer there - Adida You missed one. cleared that one up :) Adida Community Rep CCP Hf, EVE Online

Yiulian Boathouse Industries	Posted - 2010.05.28 18:50:00 - [28] Interestingly, I've never seen it more busy outside Jita station than today. It's like the cap has made everyone want to go there and play pew-pew outside the station.
Tehg Rhind	Posted - 2010.05.28 19:29:00 - [29] Originally by: Shar Tegral Originally by: Charlemagne Are you always like this or is it just "that time of the month" again? As a gentleman, I never ask/answer such questions. A gentleman never asks, a lady never tells. I agree with your statement that it's just self sustaining at this point. I guess wherever we would get a trade hub would be caldari space though due to the CNR/mission runners. The only thing I would think that might remove it would be to somehow limit suicide ganking which would encourage more inter regional trading. But that's just a total guess. And honestly its not like the other major hubs are that far behind. Amarr has some pretty significant traffic, as does Dodixie.
Jeneroux Gallente	Posted - 2010.05.28 21:33:00 - [30] Wolves always pick off the cows on the edge of the herd. Good reason to avoid herds.
Hel O'Ween Men On A Mission	Posted - 2010.05.28 23:08:00 - [31] Originally by: Tehg Rhind [...] as does Dodixie. Which is, by the way, a good example of how trade hubs evolve. When I started trading, Oursulaert (Essence) was the trade hub in Gallente space. And Dodixie was nowhere near. These days Ours is still a lively hub, but has been passed by Dodixie, AFAIK. -- EVEWalletAware - an offline wallet manager
Tehg Rhind	Posted - 2010.05.29 01:11:00 - [32] Originally by: Hel O'Ween Originally by: Tehg Rhind [...] as does Dodixie. Which is, by the way, a good example of how trade hubs evolve. When I started trading, Oursulaert (Essence) was the trade hub in Gallente space. And Dodixie was nowhere near. These days Ours is still a lively hub, but has been passed by Dodixie, AFAIK. Did that coincide with the introduction of a lvl 4 agent there? I know there are some pretty good ones in Ours, probably the best Gal Navy ones in game.
Breaker77 Gallente Reclamation Industries	Posted - 2010.05.29 01:28:00 - [33] Originally by: Tehg Rhind Did that coincide with the introduction of a lvl 4 agent there? I know there are some pretty good ones in Ours, probably the best Gal Navy ones in game. How can the best Fed Navy agents be in Ours, if the highest agent is only a L2Q18?? Granted Ours has 2 L1 agents and 2 L2 agents in Fed Navy to keep you from moving systems as you start to gain standings. But a L4Q13 agent in Dodixie is far superior to a L2 agent.
Dan Spitty Gallente Gunslingers Corp	Posted - 2010.05.29 03:49:00 - [34] Originally by: Shar Tegral Jita is not centrally located however other factors, no longer existent, made Jita attractive. Jita grew until it has become totally self sustaining no matter what CCP, or players, do. That is other than shut down the stations. I think Concorde should withdraw in the face of an obviously superior enemy and should have no part in it anymore (in a bid to save long-term node death) Would be interesting to see what would happen if they low-sec'ed it for 6 months, see if it re-forms and how much it dissipated.
Hel O'Ween Men On A Mission	Posted - 2010.05.29 10:43:00 - [35] Originally by: Tehg Rhind Did that coincide with the introduction of a lvl 4 agent there? I know there are some pretty good ones in Ours, probably the best Gal Navy ones in game. I don't think so. The triangle Aunia (decent lvl3) - Auvergne (good lvl4 Fed Int) - Dodixie (good lvl4 Fed Navy) was always a good mission spot and those agents were always there since I started playing (March 2006). -- EVEWalletAware - an offline wallet manager
Wyke Mossari Gallente Staner Industries	Posted - 2010.05.29 11:30:00 - [36] Originally by: Hel O'Ween Originally by: Tehg Rhind Did that coincide with the introduction of a lvl 4 agent there? I know there are some pretty good ones in Ours, probably the best Gal Navy ones in game. I don't think so. The triangle Aunia (decent lvl3) - Auvergne (good lvl4 Fed Int) - Dodixie (good lvl4 Fed Navy) was always a good mission spot and those agents were always there since I started playing (March 2006). The whole cluster is a pretty good trade centre, but requires a more remote trading strategy. There are plenty of factories & labs nearby. It's close to the Rens->Hek->Jita highway. It's close to the Gallentee COSMOS. It's close to Stacmon, one the Gallente FW staging systems. There are a few low level DED spaces and some positive quality lower level agents to hook new pilots.
Taram Caldar Royal Black Watch Highlanders Warped Aggression	Posted - 2010.05.29 20:02:00 - [37] This is different from the last... what??? every major patch... how? Market Alerts Mailing List
Jurinak	Posted - 2010.05.31 09:33:00 - [38] last time i visit Jita my first thought was "hey thats looks like cows in the front of a slaughterhouse" The limit isnt a good think but hey adapt or die as always in eve...
SPENDINGYOURCHILDSUPPORT	Posted - 2010.06.06 23:48:00 - [39] Jita sucks........come to Hek!
Shar Tegral	Posted - 2010.06.07 00:01:00 - [40] And the forums look good again. Wealth, howsoever got, in Eve makes Lords of morons and gentlemen of thieves; Aptitude and intellect are needless here; 'Tis impudence and money that grants fame.
Commander Ashik Minmatar We See Dead People Initiative Mercenaries	Posted - 2010.06.07 00:32:00 - [41] Im waiting for 1000 pirates to weasel their way into Jita and lock it down for a couple days or so. Would be interesting to see.
Atsuko Ratu Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2010.06.07 00:49:00 - [42] You know there's like, 5 other major hubs around empire you could visit.
Kanatta Jing	Posted - 2010.06.07 02:40:00 - [43] Well if you include Hek I think it's 6.

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