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Syovar
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Posted - 2010.05.28 15:27:00 -
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Hello CCP (and Capsuleers),
As many mission runners have noticed, the recent change in loot tables has resulted in a decrease in Meta 0 drops and an unrealistic increase in AB / MWD drops and their meta variants.
I personally don't care that the high meta market for AB/MWD will die because of this, but I do think CCP needs to recheck the percentage numbers for drops.. ABs and MWD are dropping at a 50%+ rate for wrecks with loot on them. I just went 6 wrecks in a row with just a 10MN AB on them.
Alot of other mission runners have reported the same findings in Help Channel of recent, and the collapse of that market niche also supports this.
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Intoagun Deshana
Minmatar Sentinel Eradicators of Doom
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Posted - 2010.05.28 15:28:00 -
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I can confirm this as well. ABs and MWDs are at a all time high in drops.
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Namira Sable
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Posted - 2010.05.28 15:39:00 -
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I'd like very much to hear the logic behind this change in drop rate. I mean the high priced named modules were not being melted for minerals, so was it an attempt to reduce the cost of pvp ships by CCP?
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.05.28 16:02:00 -
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I don't notice any great increase. They've been dropping like rain for months.
My deepest sympathies. Prof. Tarantula, Esq. |
jona1
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Posted - 2010.05.28 16:14:00 -
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Noticed it my neck of the woods today, got 8 meta 4 in one short session of misson running.
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Johnnyan
Caldari Johnnyan Inc.
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Posted - 2010.05.28 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: Namira Sable I'd like very much to hear the logic behind this change in drop rate. I mean the high priced named modules were not being melted for minerals, so was it an attempt to reduce the cost of pvp ships by CCP?
They say this was done to reduce the minerals gain from reprocessing T1 modules from missions, what we got has no real logic and just makes more and more people to come here and say wtf. Nobody from CCP had any answer for us yet.
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Merdaneth
Amarr Angel Wing.
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Posted - 2010.05.28 16:26:00 -
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As a buyer and reseller of named t1 AB/MWD mods I can just say that my orders (who were comfortable below best market) where filled within a day after the expansion. Yes, they drop a lot more. ____
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z0de
The Bastards The Tusker Bastards
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Posted - 2010.05.28 16:33:00 -
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The m in mwd is for mandatory. npc's have finally caught on. á á
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.05.28 17:06:00 -
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I popped 30 rats in one mission and every single one that had cargo, had a damn AB and 100 ammo in it...WTF?!?!?!?
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.05.28 17:24:00 -
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Originally by: Syn Callibri I popped 30 rats in one mission and every single one that had cargo, had a damn AB and 100 ammo in it...WTF?!?!?!?
I had a couple missions where i got a single armor scraps in every non-empty wreck and no ABs or MWDs. These are certainly strange times for mission loot.
My deepest sympathies. Prof. Tarantula, Esq. |
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Spinalonga
Caldari Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.05.28 17:38:00 -
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same here, i killed 4 bs 3x dropped best named 100mn mwd :) in 0.0. Please re-size your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist |
Arasul
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Posted - 2010.05.28 17:43:00 -
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Confirming this is also the case in 0.0 (Vale), got about 10 meta 4 mwd/ab from an hour and a halfs ratting.
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Syovar
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Posted - 2010.05.29 01:42:00 -
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shameful bump on my topic.
I do think more mission runners / marketeers should chime in. CCP does a great job of letting the market work itself out, but this recent chance in meta 0 drops, in reality has become a replacement of AB / MWD flooding. I still see more ABs drop than 1x Metal Scrap drops.
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Natalie Caladan
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2010.05.29 01:55:00 -
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So it isn't just me.
Yes, also have heaps of MWDs and ABs where I hardly got any before. I guess they hardly salvage into a lot?
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AtheistOfDoom
Amarr The Corporation That Does Things
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Posted - 2010.05.29 02:15:00 -
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Yeah I've been getting TONS of named 100mn mwds. Quite a few unnamed 10mn ones too. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
Abonid Walker
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Posted - 2010.07.26 13:28:00 -
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I was missioning after a few months and yes, this is crazy. As is meta 4 10mn mwd drop from 4.5m to 45k in a few weeks. Is there any official statement about this? I see this thread went quite ignored. ;-)
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Celestine Santora
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Posted - 2010.07.26 13:29:00 -
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I'm practically swimming in quad lif booster rockets
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Exploding Tukey
Gallente Capital Construction Research Pioneer Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.26 14:57:00 -
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the RNG, the heart of all video games, seems to be failing.
Soon we will only need to select a single stack of the same item and click reprocess.
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Spaceman Jack
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Posted - 2010.07.26 15:28:00 -
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/signed
I think the who reasoning behind changing the loot tables was fail anyway. How the hell do you claim to have a sandbox and then regulate everything so that everyones profession has the same isk/hour potential to the tee.
Huge fail IMHO.
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Gladys Pank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.07.26 15:39:00 -
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I guarantee my profession has a far greater ISK/hr ratio than anyone that cares about common module drops. Signature locked for inappropriate image. Zymurgist |
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Godsdood
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Posted - 2010.07.26 23:19:00 -
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I think the real screwup is that it's not really worth paying millions for a T2 10MN and 100MN mwd's, when the meta 4 versions are selling for peanuts.
Looking at EFT stats there are three differences between Y-T8 mwd and the 10MN II, Y-T8 uses less cap to activate and requires 15 less power but requires 3 more cap to run.
From PVP experience you don't often perma run MWD's on a cruiser\BS, so I find that that extra little bit of cap the meta 4 uses, is not a biggie.
So yeah, why buy an expensive T2 mod when the meta 4 is very very close, but a hell-of-a-lot cheaper.
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Hari Markkus
Freelancing Corp Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2010.07.26 23:27:00 -
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Originally by: Gladys Pank I guarantee my profession has a far greater ISK/hr ratio than anyone that cares about common module drops
Well, it depends on how many punters you can service, of course.
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Skydell
Morrigna Order
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Posted - 2010.07.27 00:06:00 -
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Zydrine is Zydrine.
I suppose I could save 500 named cruiser ABs but why? |
Tarasina
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Posted - 2010.07.27 00:06:00 -
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Edited by: Tarasina on 27/07/2010 00:06:36 The ABs/MWDs have become so worthless now, it's not even worth selling them anymore. Quad lif being the exception.
Reprocess FTW...
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Namira Sable
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2010.07.27 00:11:00 -
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Originally by: Tarasina Edited by: Tarasina on 27/07/2010 00:06:36 The ABs/MWDs have become so worthless now, it's not even worth selling them anymore. Quad lif being the exception.
Reprocess FTW...
I am glad to see CCP's objective of reducing reprocessing modules was completed.
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Olleybear
I R' Carebear
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Posted - 2010.07.27 00:17:00 -
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WTF...
Are people really complaining about meta drop increases now?
Whats next. Complaining because CCP doesn't sacrifice enough kittens to some tribal god image? Then when they increase the number of kittens being sacrificed, start complaining that now CCP is sacrificing too many kittens and in addition the offerings are now to the wrong tribal god image?
Seriously people. Wtf....
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Godsdood
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Posted - 2010.07.27 00:33:00 -
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Originally by: Olleybear WTF...
Are people really complaining about meta drop increases now?
Whats next. Complaining because CCP doesn't sacrifice enough kittens to some tribal god image? Then when they increase the number of kittens being sacrificed, start complaining that now CCP is sacrificing too many kittens and in addition the offerings are now to the wrong tribal god image?
Seriously people. Wtf....
Actually, it's called a discussion. No-one is calling for a meta drop nerf, we're merely voicing our opinions about the little screwup, or what we perceive as a screwup. If you don't want to be part of this discussion then why the hell are you posting in this thread?
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Joe Skellington
Minmatar JOKAS Industries Independent Faction
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Posted - 2010.07.27 00:34:00 -
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Confirmed over abundance of AB/MWD drops.
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Tarasina
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Posted - 2010.07.27 00:51:00 -
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Originally by: Olleybear WTF...
Are people really complaining about meta drop increases now?
Whats next. Complaining because CCP doesn't sacrifice enough kittens to some tribal god image? Then when they increase the number of kittens being sacrificed, start complaining that now CCP is sacrificing too many kittens and in addition the offerings are now to the wrong tribal god image?
Seriously people. Wtf....
Logic, look it up.
If an item has meta3/4, it is supposed to be more valuable and drop less than meta1/2, that is only logical. But that isn't the case currently. So logic fails. And therefor balance fails.
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Olleybear
I R' Carebear
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Posted - 2010.07.27 01:16:00 -
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Originally by: Godsdood
Actually, it's called a discussion...
And here I thought it was people complaining about yet something else thats trivial.
I was pointing out that people complain about every single decision ccp makes and how illogical a lot of that complaining is. It doesn't seem to matter what ccp does as what they do is always wrong in someones eyes.
Do the people complaining even realize that other than the non-meta 10mn/100mn ab/mwd and the tech 2 variants of those ab/mwd, is that the only other 10mn/100mn of the 10mn/100mn ab/mwd are the named mwd they are getting in drops? There simply aren't any other metas for the 10mn and 100mn's.
This is why it looks like trivial, illogical complaining and why I posted in this thread.
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