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Posted - 2010.06.04 22:30:00 -
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It was a day of great treachery and violence. A day the heathen showed exactly what he was made of. The day was 06.10.110 when the Armada of the Elders invaded Bleaklands and Kor-Azor space. Then another heathen force invaded the space over Sarum Prime.
The unprovoked acts of violence continued as the Minmatar struck the peaceful Amarrians on several fronts. But in the heat of battle the unlikely appearance of a Royal Heir would turn the fortunes of an empire reeling from Minmatar treachery.
Suddenly Amarr stood victorious over Sarum Prime. The heathen Elder fleet left in ruins at the now legendary Battle of Mekhios. Eventually the heathen Minmatar were forced to flee our holy empire as Amarr won the day. But many Amarr had fallen.
What could've caused such destruction of Minmatar forces? How did the Amarr turn the tide of battle? In the days after the Battle of Mekhios there was much speculation of a new super-weapon fired from the Abbadon of the now Empress Jamyl I. To this day many Amarrians, myself included, simply refer to this unknown weapon as The Hand of God. For what else could've left a Minmatar fleet in ruins in such a manner but the intervention and power of God blessing His faithful with victory.
That was two years ago. In the time since the battle has raged on as never before. The empire formed the 24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Militia while the Minmatar formed their own forces. Battles over the two years have raged across both empires and unclaimed space between. Systems have fallen from one side to the other and back again while all the major empires have battled.
In that time many have died, many have been wounded and all have been affected by what has happened. Still today the Amarr are stronger then ever and our resolve has not faltered. While battles have been won and lost, systems have changed hands multiple times, friends have perished and material items destroyed our faith in God, the Amarr Empire and our holy mission has only been made stronger.
While the battle rages on we now take a moment to notice where we came from and what we have accomplished. On Sunday, June 13, 112 at 17:00 evetime a MEMORIAL RALLY will be held in the Grand Cathedral of Amarr Emperor Station in Amarr. This event will fulfill the solemness of a religious service, the celebration of a victory ceremony and all the emotions in between. I invite all loyal to the Amarr Empire to this event which will honor both those who have perished and those who have served. We will mark the second anniversary of the return of the now Empress Jamyl I with prayer for our fallen, our comrades and our future.
All who are loyal to the empire are encouraged to attend. The inpod channel for this event will be announced in this thread the morning of the event. The event will start at 17:00 evetime promptly and will feature prayer, guest speakers and some special surprises. Those not able to attend in Amarr directly will have full access via inpod communications via a remote link so you will be able to participate even if outside the Domain region.
God Bless Amarr, the Empress Jamyl I and those who serve the empire.
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Posted - 2010.06.04 22:36:00 -
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Posted - 2010.06.11 21:00:00 -
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 Originally by: Grr
This year I will be personally delivering a short speech on the events of the last two years and how they have effected Amarr loyalists and our relationships.
I look forward to hearing your speech. Having so many Amarrians were touched by the events of that heinous day it is fitting to honor those who lost and those who endured in the years since.
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Posted - 2010.06.13 14:21:00 -
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The inpod channel for the Rally is: AMARR CATHEDRAL
The rally will begin at 17:00 evetime today.
Scheduled are three official speakers along with openings for several guest speakers. Those who wish to make comments during the service should send me an evemail with a description of what you'd like to discuss. This is the only way to be placed on the schedule.
The rally will be held inside the Grand Cathedral in Amarr Emperor Station. Please be docked in station by 16:55 so you can make your way up to the cathedral before it begins. Those who are unable to be present in the cathedral due to other obligations are most welcome to join the official channel for the event and monitor it from your inpod location. I am told this option is available throughout the eve cluster.
This is a solemn day and while we honor those who fell we also honor those who perservered. It is my desire that this rally remain non-political and non-confrontatial between all who attend as supporters of Amarr. We are here to honor the fallen and offer thanks and prayers for those who still fight n the side of the Amarr Empire. That is the focus today.
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Posted - 2010.06.16 01:35:00 -
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I would like to thank all the speakers and attendees of this event. Admiral Blake will shortly be posting the transcript and I'll be posting a summary of speakers. The rally went off without a hitch and I look forward to the next one a year from now. May God have led us to complete victory by then over our enemies the heathen Minmatar.
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Posted - 2010.06.17 22:57:00 -
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Originally by: Silas Vitalia
I'd say the dozens of SF wartargets outside the station during your event proved otherwise.
The Star Fraction has a long history of being attention whxres who seek the spotlight. This isn't the first time they've declared war during some event sponsored by the Amarr loyalists and I'm sure it won't be the last. Much like the I-RED hosted memorial in Malkalen all they're concerned about is the next headline.
Given recent clear evidence by the Amarr Empire that they don't think of the Star Fraction as any kind of a threat why should we as Amarr loyalists consider them such? After all the Minmatar Militia and Gallente Militia are fired upon when they enter Amarrian space, the Star Fraction meanwhile sets up offices in Amarrian stations and puts factory facilities on Amarrian planets. The Amarrian Empire obviously considers them to be nothing thus we shall do the same.
Anyone can declare war on someone else. That does not make them a credible enemy. The fact the Star Fraction has long cherry picked enemies both among the militia and otherwise while ignoring the larger scope of war by not declaring everyone shows they're more interested in headlines and padding kill numbers. Why should we oblige them?
I must say Silas you operate from a flawed assumption. The assumption that anyone cares what the Star Fraction does. Clearly the fact they would declare war the day before the event then undeclare it 10 minutes after it ended proves they're hardly worthy of attention. Instead they sat around for a couple hours, wasted time, spouted off in local while being drowned out by local sellers and spammers and generally accomplished nothing. Then they dropped the war and fled 10 minutes after the event ended.
I am curious about something though so I'm glad you brought up the Star Fraction. I recall when Daisho Syndicate was a potential war target there was a vote among the Star Fraction membership to declare war. I recall Jade wasn't happy it was a "no" vote but the majority ruled. I wonder what the vote was to declare war on PIE? After all I find it hard to believe that logical members of the Star Fraction would want to waste time with a two hour war. Obviously a war they weren't to serious about engaging in considering they retracted it 10 minutes after the event started. What was the final vote to declare war on PIE? I'd be very interested in knowing.
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What God fearing servant of the Lord could refuse such an opportunity? We are none of us numerous enough by ourselves, but together, we could surely overpower them. Instead of donating ships as door prizes, donate the money for a single day of CONCORD sanctioned warfare to each corporation in attendance, to coincide with the ceremony. Now, instead of our enemies facing a dozen ships, they have 3 or 4 times that amount to contend with.
I'll tell you what kind of God fearing servant could refuse.
- One who doesn't care about the Star Fraction and their antics.
- One who has no desire to play along with their desired script to make headlines.
- One who was focused on the event at hand which you'll recall was a solemn memorial service and celebration of perserverence.
Just in case the math wasn't apparent to you the Star Fraction declared war just before the event was scheduled to begin (24 hours earlier). Thus there was no time to rally huge forces and declare war within the minimum 24 hour requirement.
We set the event as a memorial. We didn't set it to "trap" someone to get some easy kills. If you thought that was the reason you obviously weren't there for the right reason and you clearly didn't hear the message of prayer and rememberence.
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Posted - 2010.07.05 23:05:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Archbishop
I must say Silas you operate from a flawed assumption. The assumption that anyone cares what the Star Fraction does.
If you truly were careless of Star Fraction's involvement you would have dared to undock. The fact you cringed inside a station like a puling maggot suggests you cared an awful lot about our involvement and were terrified by it.
Resurrecting a nearly month old thread to try and divert the publics attention from the fact your alliance is falling apart and your most active members are leaving isn't really an effective tactic when you've been completely exposed.
As Rodj says if you consider yourself a threat to the empire you should prove it. I can only assume the fact the Amarrian navy doesn't fire on you, you're allowed to dock at Amarr stations and even setup on Amarrian planets means the Amarr Empire considers you a "NOTHING" or a "ZERO" on the threat scale. Where the Minmatar militia are well recognized enemies you are kind of a "hanger on" with your selective wardecs, one day wars and rampant publicity efforts. If the empire views you as a "NOTHING" we must also. As for KPG I could care less what they think of you. Our memorial was a solemn event and nothing more. Not a "trap" to lure you into, not an effort to gain publicity, not something nefarious or twisted, it was just a memorial. It was 100% successful, went off exactly as planned, we had excellent speakers and participation. We honored the dead and those who serve against the Minmatar heathens. I am quite pleased with the entire event.
Like I said previously though hiding behind month old threads isn't going to concel the fact your alliance is falling apart and people in Providence held a meeting and wanted you out. Feel free to dredge up some more old threads if you like it won't change the facts.
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Posted - 2010.07.05 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
The fact he arranged the memorial inside a station demonstrates he's terrified of his enemies.
The fact he dared not undock when confronted by those enemies demonstrates he's a cowardly worm.
Neither of these facts gives him much right to say the words "Amarr Victor" with a straight face.
Perhaps you need to look at the poster again for the memorial service. The Cathedral is inside the station thus that is where the memorial was held.
Once again the Star Fraction seeks to take something that happens and lie about it in an effort to make themselves look "victorious". I recall one time they accused a militia corp of not fielding battleships to fight them. Never mind the militia corp was using frigates because thats what was called for in militia complexes, the Star Fraction took "credit" for it. It's kind of like taking credit for the sun coming up in the morning. It's going to happen anyway so you might as well try to get some PR value from it.
In this case the memorial was held inside the Cathedral as scheduled. As for not "confronting enemies" I'd have to consider the Star Fraction a worthy enemy of the Amarr Empire to do that. I don't. They're obvious attention *****s who do whatever they can to get publicity to feed their executors gigantic ego. Given they declared war an hour before the memorial and cancelled it 10 minutes after it ended clearly indicates they never considered themselves an "enemy" at all and were simply looking for another newsflash like the one they got in Malkalen. To bad they left humiliated and disappointed having wasted time because their leader wanted another ego boost.
The memorial was a wonderful experience. It was a 100% success and given the successes of the Amarr militia in campaigns against the Minmatar militia I certainly am quite happy to say AMARR VICTOR! Clearly the Star Fraction executor is desperate for any type of PR victory and will take credit for a planet orbiting the sun if she can. Anything for a "victory". Anything to try and hide the fact her most active pilots and commanders have abandoned the alliance and the locals in Providence want her out. Yes I can see how desperate she really is given what's happened.
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Posted - 2010.07.05 23:20:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
But if you truly believe SF is falling apart I guess that means you should fight next time we wardec you right?
Like I said you'd have to be an enemy of the Amarr Empire to even get my notice. Instead as you dock at Amarrian stations, fly by Amarrian Navy ships without any action by them, setup industry on Amarrian planets and generally fly around like an average person I have to conclude the enemy considers you completely irrelevant. Thus so do I.
Given your wardec wasn't even a few hours it's pretty clear you sought attention and publicity and nothing more. Unable to disrupt our event and become a "headliner" you resort to taking credit for the sun rising (us holding the memorial inside a cathedral) and do whatever you can to mask the humiliation of your failure to interupt a sacred service for those who perished. Sorry to disappoint you.
As for your alliance falling apart we've seen this before. I'm sure you'll eventually get a new crop of anarchist rookies, you'll brainwash them and they'll fight with you for awhile, then they'll up and leave when they realize what you're like. It's happened before and it'll happen again. I'm sure just like the Stimulus guys who left your group and now speak negatively about you we'll eventually see this from some of the more honest DX4 pilots.
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Posted - 2010.07.06 02:21:00 -
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Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss
I think you misunderstand how supporting a coalition works. you think tags matter? people change depending on the job at hand. in fact, how many PIE pilots have gone and worked for other Amarr loyalist groups but remained in the fold and fought along side their brethren?
Finally some confirmation of what we've always known. The Star Fraction Pirate Coalition is officially acknowledged as being a fact. It's good to see the Star Fraction is no longer going to try and "hide" their true identities and instead are open and accepting of the understanding that they are indeed pirates who have only used "anarchy" as an excuse for violence. In the past we've seen them ally with pirates only to claim "we don't support piracy". Now with this official coalition there will be no more need for them to try and hide their true selves.
Thank you Tomahawk Bliss for that confirmation.
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Posted - 2010.07.07 13:25:00 -
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As I said the information I had about the internal strife of the Star Fraction came secondhand. While some DX4 pilots have spoken publically about it and the "trend" matches previous examples of SF breakups again its all secondhand. If Jade and Cosmo wish to state it isn't true and are instead acknowledging that the breakup of SF corps was due to the forming of a pirate coalition (as they now have) that's fine with me.
The Star Fraction has a long and colorful history of aligning with piratical elements. In the past though they've always sought to deny this and claimed they weren't. To now see them step forward and proudly proclaim not only are the pirates but they are also co-founder of this new pirate coalition is refreshing.
While I deplore piracy I must commend the Star Fraction on this occasion for having found the courage to face the truth about themselves. While piracy is of course a great sin being true to yourself and not lying about is commendable. Now we see the anarchists stand to proudly proclaim their status as members of a pirate coalition. Refreshing honesty from an alliance not exactly known for it.
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Posted - 2010.07.07 13:42:00 -
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Edited by: Archbishop on 07/07/2010 13:44:05
Originally by: The Cosmopolite
Nothing has been confirmed here except that Archbishop's command of the facts is as shaky as his command of anything other than a cloaking Bestower.
The Amarrian nationalist definition of 'pirate' really doesn't mean anything anymore. Not that it has had a meaning other than 'people we don't like' for many years.
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I think everyone here knows a pirate when they see one. He's the guy who sits at gates ganking everyone who flies by without so much as a word.
You know... Like The Final Stand... The pirate allies in your Star Fraction Pirate Coalition. As Jade has indicated there was no issue leading to DX4 leaving SF and Tomahawk has confirmed it was to be part of.a pirate coalition that would still have SF flying with its brethern its clear you now place yourselves in that class.
Many of us have long believed you are simply pirates who use fancy language and spin about "anarchy" to justify their often quite random violence. Now we can look forward to plain old piracy without the spin.
This is a refreshing change.
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Posted - 2010.07.07 14:01:00 -
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I am pleased that the Star Fraction is now going to be honest about being pirate coalition members. I guess now the question is who is the "Pirate Queen"? After all we have the galaxys biggest ego and the galaxays biggest nutcase now in the same pirate coalition.
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Posted - 2010.07.08 00:31:00 -
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Originally by: The Cosmopolite
Originally by: Archbishop
You know... Like The Final Stand... The pirate allies in your Star Fraction Pirate Coalition. As Jade has indicated there was no issue leading to DX4 leaving SF and Tomahawk has confirmed it was to be part of.a pirate coalition that would still have SF flying with its brethern its clear you now place yourselves in that class.
Tomahawk confirmed no such thing. You're telling lies about him.
Jade Constantine confirmed no such thing. You're telling lies about her.
The Star Fraction are not pirates and we do not shoot neutrals. You're telling lies about the Star Fraction.
You were caught repeating false rumours without any thought and caught spinning them into lies. You backed yourself into a corner on this one. Your response? To try and lie yourself out of the situation. So much for being a 'spiritual director'. You're nothing but a mountebank who lies by reflex action.
Just stop telling lies. If you can.
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Actually Cosmo I did see the confirmation by Tomahawk who was a former member of the Star Fraction. You'll see back on page 2 of this thread he talks about how leaving the Star Fraction and being in a coalition means you're now part of a pirate coalition. You'll note he even mentions Bane another well known pirate alliance.
No what we have here is clearcut evidence and an admission by a former Star Fraction alliance corporation leader that pilots leaving the Star Fraction are simply joining a pirate coalition and "tags don't matter". He even compares it to pilots leaving PIE and joining other loyalist corporations who we fly with.
As you can see by the quote below he's quite clear in what he's saying. He's saying there is an official "coalition" of pirates. He's also clearly saying the tags on your ships mean little and you'll continue flying with them and they'll continue flying with Star Fraction pilots.
Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss
Originally by: Archbishop
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the fact your alliance is falling apart and your most active members are leaving isn't really an effective tactic when you've been completely exposed.
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I think you misunderstand how supporting a coalition works. you think tags matter? people change depending on the job at hand. in fact, how many PIE pilots have gone and worked for other Amarr loyalist groups but remained in the fold and fought along side their brethren?
go on and try to cause some damage to The Star Fraction and you can see first hand how "falling apart" adding another whole alliance has been.
maybe you missed the whole Coalition part? possibly getting your golden butts blasted off by Bane and Mode in Amamake everyday has made you confused.
Given these pirates also have secured offices in and around your outpost and the fact they don't fire on you (while shooting everyone else) makes it very clear you are in league with them.
I have to say it's pretty easy to catch the Star Fraction in their hypocrisy. All you need to do is sit around and wait for them to open their mouths and something (like this pirate coalition confession) will come out. I'm sure Tomahawk didn't mean to spill the beans on the true situation here and you'll try some spin-like damage control but the truth is out.
The Star Fraction Pirate Coalition (SFPC) is now open for business in Providence.
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Posted - 2010.07.08 02:53:00 -
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Edited by: Archbishop on 08/07/2010 02:53:44
Originally by: The Cosmopolite
It's just more lies from Archbishop.
He lies about there being a 'pirate coalition': there is no such coalition in Providence (well, there's the CVA and its pirate allies but he doesn't call that a 'pirate coalition' such is his hypocrisy).
He lies about what Tomahawk Bliss's words mean: Tomahawk Bliss is not talking about a 'pirate coalition' rather he is talking of the Providence allies which includes the Ushra'Khan and others.
He lies about the Star Fraction: the Star Fraction are not pirates and do not shoot neutrals.
It is just non-stop lies.
There's no point even engaging with it. I see no need to say anymore than that he lies and anyone who reads him critically will see it. He provides all the evidence for his mendacity himself, that's how ridiculous he is. Not only does he lie and lie and lie. He's simply bad at it.
Stop lying, Archbishop, for the sake of everyone who does not wish to view the spectacle of a sad old man who has so lost his dignity that he repeatedly exposes himself and furiously engages in the Sin of Onan while gibbering crazed lies.
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Lets evaluate what Tomahawk, a former Star Fraction corporation leader and fleet commander said and the context he said it in.
1. I heard the Star Fraction was "falling apart" because it had members and corporations leaving and thats what I said (secondhand knowledge).
2. Tomahawk Bliss countered by stating tags don't matter and implied you will still fly together in making the argument that the alliance was not "falling apart".
3. He used the word "coalition" to describe that group of pilots.
4. He even compared it to the situation where PIE pilots have left but have joined other Amarrian loyalist organizations and we've flown with them later on.
5. Tomahawk Bliss is a member of The Final Stand a known pirate group and referenced Bane another pirate group in his comments.
Conclusion:
1. There is a coalition.
2. The Star Fraction pilots who left are a part of it.
3. The other members like The Final Stand and Bane are known pirate organizations.
4. The now ex-Star Fraction pilots will still be flying with the Star Fraction and don't view "tags" as anything seperating the organizations that are a part of this pirate coalition.
Tomahawk has made it very clear that the fact members and corporations left the Star Fraction mean nothing because there is a coalition and you will still fly together. I can only conclude that Tomahawks comments were errant in nature and not desired by the Star Fraction. In other words he blew it and let it slip accidently and now you're trying to do damage control.
Tomahawks comments are very clear and quite concise. There is a coalition, Star Fraction pilots are freely moving in and out of pirate corporations, the Star Fraction is not falling apart and the other members of this coalition are known pirate organizations. We shouldn't forget these pirate groups also convienently have offices at your outpost.
Obviously the Star Fraction has committed another blunder (like the backroom deal with Daisho and the IRED incident in Malkalen) and now they're trying to spin it into something positive. Fortunately Tomahawks comment is here for all to see and it's quite concise in describing the links between this pirate coalition and the Star Fraction.
It's quite apparent this exposure of your coalition wasn't intended. I fully expect the Star Fraction to continue calling it a "lie" or try to claim its a big Minmatar coalition. Fortunately the words are here for all to see and all will make their own judgement. Joe the Citizen can decide for himself what the pirate coalition is all about and if you're involved or not.
I agree with Graelyn... who could've imagined you'd to come right out and say it like you did.
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Posted - 2010.07.09 00:15:00 -
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Originally by: Darveses
The determinism and passion of those whose primary occupation seems to be to uncover every embarrassing little dust particle under the Fraction's carpets never ceases to amaze me 
Also, TFS is blue to the Star Fraction. Thats all "Star Fraction Pirate Coalition" there is and hardly damning new evidence - makes you look desperate my dearest Archie.
Your use of the word "uncover" implies there is something to uncover. Now that your new pirate coalition has been exposed I would say you are correct in saying this is an embarrassing revelation for the Star Fraction officers.
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The reason these threads and arguments are endless is that PIE leadership have long ordered their pilots to consider the Star Fraction "irrelevant" to action in space, while "super-relevant" to IGS propaganda. PIE recognize that they cannot match the Fraction in any kind of war or military contest and hope instead to cover their weakness with sporadic deceitful posting of the kind we have seen from the cloaking-bestower piloting Archbishop in this thread.
We consider you irrelevant because you are. Efforts on galnet to expose your hypocritical activities are simply a public service. As men of God the pilots of PIE are committed to the truth. When we see an obvious lie as we have here with first denying the existence of a coalition then acknowledging one does exist (but claiming it's not a pirate coalition) we speak out.
Unfortunately for the Star Fraction the existence of their coalition has now been confirmed and confessed to. Given Merdaneths observation that each Star Fraction position above is directly counter to those of the Final Stand a known pirate alliance proves only one thing. The Star Fraction are in leagues with these pirate groups. But this isn't anything new. They have a long history of collaboration with pirates. After the backroom deal they cut with the territorialist, enclosurist, NBSI alliance the Daisho Syndicate was exposed they can hardly claim the mantle of "freespace revolutionary" because they themselves have crawled into bed with those diametrically opposed to their stated positions.
I guess the big questions are:
1. Why do pirates NOT shoot at the Star Fraction when they shoot at everyone else?
2. Why does the Star Fraction pariticpate in operations that clear space of peace enforcing groups (like Mito) only to leave them for pirate takeover.
3. Why does the Star Fraction allow pirate corporations to have office space in their outpost?
4. Why does the Star Fraction feel it's OK to provide cyno jump capabilties for pirate capital ships?
5. Why does the Star Fraction feel there is no problem setting up a warp bubble at a gate while pirates sit nearby shooting those who are caught in it?
Rodj is right. I really don't understand why there is any controversy over this. The Star Fraction is quite clearly a member of this pirate coalition and have embraced the pirate lifestyle long ago. While they claim they don't shoot neutrals they have also admitted in the past they have had "accidents" but claim they reimburse their victims. Of course when they've griefed a corporation into quitting the pod completely and abandoning the Eve cluster paying for a few lost ships when they realize they made a mistake is hardly a remedy to the damage they've caused.
The truth is very clear. Tomahawk spilled the beans. Cosmo admits there is a coalition but tries to paint it as something else. In the end the Star Fraction will go along with their pirate coalition members as they always have. They made their bed. Now they can sleep in it. If they think people in Providence associating with and supporting CVA makes them guilty of being pro-slavery what does crawling into bed with pirates make you? I think we know that answer.
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