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Cheque Please Minmatar Hot Like Mexico	Posted - 2010.06.08 08:46:00 - [1] [INTRODUCTION] Stop the clocks, lock the forums, take a deep breath. I bring you news: the apocalypse is neigh. For itÆs time, ladies and gentlemen, to make MD history at this, the ending of the world. Throw down a stake, reserve the best seats. HereÆs the impossible: a first time poster issuing a bond that WONÆT evaporate in the sunlight! Shocking, I know. Not a scam, you say? Yes, itÆs true. Calm yourself. Breathe manually. à Good to go? Okay then. To spare everyone the pain of reading a wall of text, IÆll keep this simple and to the point. LetÆs begin. [GENERAL SUMMARY] Bond: Station Trading, #1 -Issued by: Cheque Please -Total Funds: 3 billion ISK -Begins: TBA pending Full Reservation -Ends: Exactly 61 DAYS after launch Num. of Shares: 60 Individual Share Price: 50 million ISK Interest: 12% ( 6 million per share, monthly) -Dividends paid TWICE every 30 DAYS (360 million ISK monthly, 720 million total) -All assets liquidated and full investment returned after 61 DAYS Strategy: Station Trading Investment Risk: Low Collateral: Sort of - I have 2 PLEXÆs incoming from CCP that I won in a contest. That almost covers the interest if I completely bomb. Knowing CCP though, I expect to get them sometime next year. Withdrawal of Funds: Available -If at any time you need your initial investment refunded, I will try my best to accommodate you without sabotaging the bond. Interest payment for that month will be forfeited. Given that this is only going to run 2 months, I hope this isnÆt an issue. [BUSINESS PLAN / REASONING FOR BOND] Most of you in MD are grizzled veterans yourself, but for the uninitiated out there, hereÆs a brief summary of how successful bonds work: Step 1: I form this bond for you. Step 2: You transfer me ISK. Step 3: ??? Step 4: We laze back together in our leather chairs, puff gilded cigars, and talk of country clubs, croquet, and the good olÆ days under Ronald Reagan. On a serious note, thereÆs really not much to say that wonÆt bore you. I will be exclusively station trading. I enjoy making money. And I enjoy making money with as little effort as possible. Enter the station trader. IÆve been playing EVE for about two months total, and IÆve steadily increased my wealth over those two months. To some of you, I understand that this makes me the æFNGÆ. However, IÆm looking for paths to faster expansion and, unfortunately, one needs money to make money. So thatÆs why IÆm here. Toss me your loose change. I have enough self-interest to succeed, tempered by enough ambition to not slink away from the table early with a lean 3 billion. I want to be a Jita 4-4 fat cat eventually, and to do that IÆm trying my best to work upward, starting humbly with this initial bond. So help me, help you, help meà Or something like that. =) As for the specific trade strategyà well, I intend on buying high and selling low-- err, wait a second I get that mantra confused sometimes. Buy low and sell high, thatÆs it. Maybe itÆs more complicated than I thought! *****
Cheque Please Minmatar Hot Like Mexico	Posted - 2010.06.08 08:52:00 - [2] Edited by: Cheque Please on 08/06/2010 08:53:13 [RISK ASSESMENT: Low] Scam: Unlikely This could be a scam, sure. It could all be an elaborate plot to steal 3 billion and spend it on hookers and ice cream. Maybe IÆm ITS Assassin reincarnated as an alt to mooch more money from MD and then whine about it all the way to the bank. But IÆd appreciate it if you didnÆt cast me in with his lot. The best scammers hide their intentions behind fast-talk and walls of text. IÆm not trying to hypnotize you into a suggestible state with pretty colors like highlighted green text! and angry-face red text. Nor am I lulling you to sleep with long, long white lines of unformatted text droning on and on about pseudo-business terms like æmarginsÆ and ærisk mitigationÆ. LetÆs speak plainly. I offer a solid 24% return on your investment upon the termination of this bond. I feel I can safely exceed the 720 million profit line in 2 months with a temporary boost in my available capital. My interest rate is high because I aim high. ItÆs that simple. Loss of Assets: Impossible This will all be conducted at a major market hub. I expect to never leave the station with anything of worth to this bond. No hauling into a suicide gank; no high-sec POS to get war decÆd. Burnout: Unlikely If for some strange reason, I get fed up with this game in the near future (absolutely no correlation with you probing MD elites with all your questions, IÆm sure ;) ), all assets will be liquidated, initial investments will be returned fair and square, and the bond will be closed. ThatÆs a promiseà Hit by a Bus: Medium à but hereÆs the exception to that promise. I go to Uni, and I live on campus. LetÆs just say that there are a lot of rushed buses zooming around some very cramped streets. It could happen, I suppose. IÆll look both ways before crossing the street, I swear! Oddly enough though, of the three times IÆve almost been hit walking, the culpritÆs always been a Jimmy JohnÆs delivery car. Coincidence? You decide. Freaky fast, indeed. [WRAP UP] Of course, this is all just me assessing my own bond. And yes, I might be a tad biased. So please donÆt take my word for it. I will try to secure an audit to confirm that IÆm not a complete idiot, but such things cannot ever be fool proof. Do not substitute another manÆs judgment when you have your own to spare. Use your head, have a think about it, and never risk what you canÆt afford to lose. If you take my up on my offer though, IÆll see you on the other side exactly 24% richer. Now, I know some of you have a lock on me already, and have hands twitching for F1-F8. All I have to say is this: give me the benefit of the doubt please. Ask your questions, by all means, but keep in mind that I am, in fact, on your side. DonÆt slaughter me before I get the chance to prove myself. Closing Haiku: Where paragraphs of words fail, sometimes a few will work. So hereÆs a haiku: Summer worm appears Golden in the morning sun Who will be the bird? cough Invest now. Cheers, Cheque
Cheque Please Minmatar Hot Like Mexico	Posted - 2010.06.08 08:59:00 - [3] Edited by: Cheque Please on 08/06/2010 08:58:59 Reservations: Reserved... (haha, get it?)
Rethguad Lamina	Posted - 2010.06.08 09:04:00 - [4] Reserving 5 share/250m pending audit.
Xearal Minmatar SOL Industries Kamikaze Project	Posted - 2010.06.08 09:27:00 - [5] Reserving 4 shares at 200M, pending audit <a href="https://eve-search.com/externalLink.asp?l=http%3A%2F%2Frumandmonkey%2Ecom%2Fwidgets%2Ftoys%2Ftestgen%2F6199%2F"><img src="http://stat.rumandmonkey.com/tests/9/9/6199/25764.jpg" title="Industrialist with teeth" alt="Industrialist with teeth" border="0"
Matt Ross Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2010.06.08 09:40:00 - [6] Reserving 5 share at 250m pending audit. Tis better to reign in hell than to serve in heaven.
Unity Love Caldari Dissonance Corp	Posted - 2010.06.08 10:16:00 - [7] Edited by: Unity Love on 08/06/2010 10:20:14 sorry retracted, not through any fault of yours. GL, Unity
Grozen Caldari Titan Core	Posted - 2010.06.08 10:28:00 - [8] You don't post much on this char knowledge is power
Shar Tegral	Posted - 2010.06.08 10:29:00 - [9] Scam Factor: 6/10 Rating: Likely to succeed. - 2 month old "FNG" who fills out the standard IPO proposal like a pro. Even used color coding all the while being self deprecating. - Riethe like humor - Denigrates the value of 3 billion (that's 10 months free eve time exchange rare for 2 plexes.) - Audit is only going to show, at best, 1.5 months of trading. Though this has not stopped lemmings from reserving pending the audit. - Closes the offering with DragonRiderTao drivel. Summary: Unlikely to scam at this point, this is just the first step to the bigger scam down the road. Wealth, howsoever got, in Eve makes Lords of morons and gentlemen of thieves; Aptitude and intellect are needless here; 'Tis impudence and money that grants fame.
Cheque Please Hot Like Mexico	Posted - 2010.06.08 10:59:00 - [10] Originally by: Shar Tegral Scam Factor: 6/10 Rating: Likely to succeed. - 2 month old "FNG" who fills out the standard IPO proposal like a pro. Even used color coding all the while being self deprecating. - Riethe like humor - Denigrates the value of 3 billion (that's 10 months free eve time exchange rare for 2 plexes.) - Audit is only going to show, at best, 1.5 months of trading. Though this has not stopped lemmings from reserving pending the audit. - Closes the offering with DragonRiderTao drivel. Summary: Unlikely to scam at this point, this is just the first step to the bigger scam down the road. In your haste to call me a scammer, Shar Tegral, you forgot one thing: I might not be a scammer. I don't mind the accusation; in fact, I expected it. Even from the perspective of a player who's only been reading this board for roughly a month (me), I can see why a healthy distrust is necessary. I can't fault you for being smart. Here's a few quick remarks regarding your concerns really quick before I head off to sleep. Quote: 2 month old "FNG" who fills out the standard IPO proposal like a pro. Even used color coding all the while being self deprecating. I didn't realize being coherent was a character flaw. Same with the sense of humor. But thank you. =) Quote: Denigrates the value of 3 billion Yeah, I pretty much wipe my arse with 3 billion. I'm an evil business mastermind like the Penguin... except no, I'd prefer using my powers for the forces of good. And no one wants to be Danny DeVito. And I don't have 3 billion yet, which compared to some of you giants on this board, is what I would consider a paltry sum. In comparison. Quote: Audit is only going to show, at best, 1.5 months of trading. Though this has not stopped lemmings from reserving pending the audit. Well, I certainly hope so considering I've only been trading, at best, 1.5 months total. Quote: Closes the offering with DragonRiderTao drivel. Lol, fair enough. And if what you say is true, Shar, about this being a stepping stone to a masterplan scam, then invest away people. Your money is guaranteed safe with this bond, right? Win-win. (Disclaimer: To anyone that may be quoting this from the future: please take a good whiff. That's the thick scent of sarcasm).

Cheque Please Hot Like Mexico	Posted - 2010.06.08 11:07:00 - [11] Originally by: Grozen You don't post much on this char I don't post much with any char.
Taram Caldar Royal Black Watch Highlanders Warped Aggression	Posted - 2010.06.08 11:34:00 - [12] 1) Reserving 1bil, pending audit and answers to questions I'll post questions to this post in a bit, have RL to deal with tho so will be back More in a bit. Market Alerts Mailing List
Marbo Slyder	Posted - 2010.06.08 11:48:00 - [13] Reserving 10 shares for a total of 500 mil ...subject to all the provisos previously listed :)
Roguehalo Caldari Resonance Laboratories	Posted - 2010.06.08 12:00:00 - [14] Scam is obvious.
Shar Tegral	Posted - 2010.06.08 12:24:00 - [15] Originally by: Cheque Please In your haste to call me a scammer, Shar Tegral, you forgot one thing: I might not be a scammer. There was no haste sir. I looked over the data and I remembered "You might not be a scammer". And, in Eve, that means you are most likely a scammer. Sarcasm is the first response of those without anything else to offer. I.e. Scammers. You damn yourself not with my review of you but with your response to that review. But, I'm not here to troll you or derail you so that'll be the extent of my statements and advice (to others). Wealth, howsoever got, in Eve makes Lords of morons and gentlemen of thieves; Aptitude and intellect are needless here; 'Tis impudence and money that grants fame.
Ji Sama Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries manufacturing disaster	Posted - 2010.06.08 14:05:00 - [16] I would like to reserve 1000 (ONE THOUSAND) ISK worth of shares, please use cribba as fourth party!
Ophias	Posted - 2010.06.08 14:40:00 - [17] Reserving 10 shares for a total of 500 million Subject to all the provisos previously listed, as others have said.
Lord Arbalest Northstar Cabal	Posted - 2010.06.08 15:13:00 - [18] Are you willing to disclose your mains and alts? How much have you been trading with so far? What sort of profits have you been bringing in? (And all of Taram's questions) Evading questions and accusations by way of 'but then again...i might not be', just gives your accusers more weight in their argument.
omgfreemoniez	Posted - 2010.06.08 15:58:00 - [19] Originally by: Cheque Please the apocalypse is neigh. WHERES THAT HORSE!!?
Corcyrus Endymion	Posted - 2010.06.08 16:41:00 - [20] You have my sympathy. I liked the setup and the write up. Obviously I'm not going to participate because: A) Something reeks of scam. B) I can do the exact same thing myself and make billions risk free over the same period. I still hope you will succeed, I get a positive vibe from this thread, scam or no scam.

RAW23	Posted - 2010.06.08 17:10:00 - [21] Originally by: omgfreemoniez Originally by: Cheque Please the apocalypse is neigh. WHERES THAT HORSE!!? Carrying one of the four horsemen obviously.
Cheque Please Hot Like Mexico	Posted - 2010.06.08 20:09:00 - [22] Edited by: Cheque Please on 08/06/2010 20:14:13 Originally by: Taram Caldar Edited by: Taram Caldar on 08/06/2010 12:20:34 Edit: Questions posted Reserving 1bil, pending audit and answers to questions This is obviously an alt (Born 5/29). Disclose your main. Disclose your alts, all of them How many accounts do you have? How do you pay for them? What is your current net worth? (That's all assets + All outstanding buy orders + all outstanding sell orders + cash on hand - current debt) How did you get the isk to start trading? Is trading all that you do or do you augment income in some other way (missions?) If you run missions what level mission agents are you currently using? What is your current standing with the corp that owns the station you are trading in? What out of game tools are you using to assist you with trading? I may have more questions later. For now these will do. Hi Taram, I'll try to answer your questions. Quote: This is obviously an alt (Born 5/29). Disclose your main. Though I would have preferred revealing this sort of information solely to an auditor, I guess it really can't hurt. My main is Azenn. Though the character was born late 2007, I have not been playing 3 years. I played for roughly a month then, maybe a month and a half. I don't remember. I recently started playing again a little over a month ago. I'm using this alt to conduct the bond as I rlike the name, and I wish I had spent more time on my original character's portrait. You can confirm here at Massively that I did indeed win 2 PLEX recently, pending CCP to mail them to me. Quote: Disclose your alts, all of them None of any real consequence. I have one "Duke Hellstrom" on my main account + Cheque Please and Korazen on my 2nd account. Azenn is my main character and the only one I played with until recently. Quote: How many accounts do you have? How do you pay for them? I paid my main account with the typical $14 a few days ago. I planned to buy a PLEX for the second account in order to give myself the free 30 days buddy time (mailed myself a trial) but stupid me messed up. I activated it with a PLEX regardless, but a few hours late. So I have 2 months of game time on the main account now + 1 month on the second account. I wanted the second account to play EVE and do exploration (love the new system) while I adjust buy/sell orders in the background. I opened it now because I figured I was getting the 2 PLEX from the contest soon, and that would reimburse what I spent. I'm opening this bond partly to cover the 300m hit to my wallet. Quote: What is your current net worth Somewhere around 700m, I'd say. Maybe a bit more. I have 440m in sell orders + 150m in escrow atm + 100m in my wallet. Assuming the sell orders won't sell at the current price and will go down a bit, I still have quite a few items sitting in inventory that I need to move -- so maybe another 100m to 150m there. It's a bit trickier, too, because I have some assets that are scattered all over some terrible regions like Lonetrek when I used to be silly and do big region-wide buy orders and haul it. This is mostly salvage now that I can't be arsed to pick up. Maybe another 20m-30m in this. Quote: How did you get the isk to start trading? Is trading all that you do or do you augment income in some other way (missions)? I've done missions occasionally b/c I need to raise standing, but only up to level 2 so far. I've got battlecruisers trained on my main, Azenn, but haven't bothered to buy one yet. I find M's rather boring. I enjoy exploration and sold a wormhole a few days ago on Duke Hellstrom. You can probably forum search the post. ... I'm at the character limit now to this post; I can answer the last three Q's in three quick words: no, bad, none.
Cheque Please Hot Like Mexico	Posted - 2010.06.08 20:23:00 - [23] Originally by: Shar Tegral Originally by: Cheque Please In your haste to call me a scammer, Shar Tegral, you forgot one thing: I might not be a scammer. There was no haste sir. I looked over the data and I remembered "You might not be a scammer". And, in Eve, that means you are most likely a scammer. Sarcasm is the first response of those without anything else to offer. I.e. Scammers. You damn yourself not with my review of you but with your response to that review. But, I'm not here to troll you or derail you so that'll be the extent of my statements and advice (to others). And here I really thought the haiku would have convinced you. =( Oh well, no hard feelings. You're still invited to my birthday party. Maybe I'll see you in 2 months and prove otherwise if I get this thing off the ground.
Cheque Please Hot Like Mexico	Posted - 2010.06.08 22:41:00 - [24] The bond is now tentatively filled up (that was rather fast). If you would like to get on the waiting list, please leave a message here and I'll add you. I am seeking an auditor to get this rolling ASAP if anyone reading this is available/knows one who is not busy. Also, Ophias, you wanted 10 shares but there were only 6 available. I put you down for 6, and 4 more if anyone withdraws. Let me know if that is okay.
Ophias	Posted - 2010.06.09 11:13:00 - [25] Edited by: Ophias on 09/06/2010 11:14:01 That's a shame but fine. Let me know when you need the ISK. Oh and by the way I loved the haiku, just ignore Shar Tegral. For some reason he/she sees it as their purpose in life to run around these forums being grumpy.
Synbiossa Gallente Dirt-Nap Ship Yards Dirt Nap Squad.	Posted - 2010.06.09 13:53:00 - [26] Sorry for not posting sooner, but I believe I am person X as per out mail about reserving 10 shares for me.
Cheque Please Hot Like Mexico	Posted - 2010.06.09 19:37:00 - [27] Originally by: omgfreemoniez WHERES THAT HORSE!!? Sorry, I must have missed this post yesterday. I am so very glad at least one person gets my stupid jokes. Originally by: Ophias Oh and by the way I loved the haiku ... and I'm also glad one person likes my stupid haiku. Originally by: Synbiossa Sorry for not posting sooner, but I believe I am person X as per out mail about reserving 10 shares for me. Yes, you are. Sorry about that. From your EVE mail I wasn't sure if you wanted your name posted here or not. Added your name to the reservation list. Originally by: Ophias Let me know when you need the ISK. Will do. Currently I'm still seeking an audit to confirm what I have posted earlier about my alternate characters and NAV. Considering I have disclosed the name of my main, I don't think the audit's all that necessary, but if it helps put anyone's mind at ease, then I'll have it done for that sake alone. I don't want this to turn into a "SCAM!" screaming witch hunt because, beneath it all, there's no witch. We all know how Salem turned out. If it means me getting a third party to see if I float like a duck, so be it. It's kind of sad how frustrating this can be as a first time offerer. A bit of a Catch-22, if you ask me. I need your funds to earn your trust, and to earn your funds I need your trust. Something's gotta give! Hopefully the audit won't take too long. Cheers, Cheque
Synbiossa Gallente Dirt-Nap Ship Yards Dirt Nap Squad.	Posted - 2010.06.09 19:51:00 - [28] Originally by: Cheque Please Yes, you are. Sorry about that. From your EVE mail I wasn't sure if you wanted your name posted here or not. Added your name to the reservation list. Didn't really want to post with my main, but I could see how it looks fishy having someone up there as just X. Good luck. Awaiting the audit.
Cheque Please Hot Like Mexico	Posted - 2010.06.09 20:02:00 - [29] Originally by: Synbiossa Originally by: Cheque Please Yes, you are. Sorry about that. From your EVE mail I wasn't sure if you wanted your name posted here or not. Added your name to the reservation list. Didn't really want to post with my main, but I could see how it looks fishy having someone up there as just X. Good luck. Awaiting the audit. Maybe a little bit. But hey, we could always resort to spy names. I'll switch your reservation to a humble man called "John Doe" and no one will be the wiser, I'm positive of it. It's a practically impenetrable disguise.
Xearal Minmatar SOL Industries Kamikaze Project	Posted - 2010.06.10 09:44:00 - [30] I reserve to use the name Jane Doe!!! <a href="https://eve-search.com/externalLink.asp?l=http%3A%2F%2Frumandmonkey%2Ecom%2Fwidgets%2Ftoys%2Ftestgen%2F6199%2F"><img src="http://stat.rumandmonkey.com/tests/9/9/6199/25764.jpg" title="Industrialist with teeth" alt="Industrialist with teeth" border="0"



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