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mechtech
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Posted - 2010.06.08 13:36:00 -
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Is this is mistake? Will NPC orders be stepped down slowly and if so, how?
Part of the appeal of Tyrannis was that is made everything more player driven. As of now, it's really not (not to mention this kills much of the profitability of PI).
CCP should keep us updated and give us a clear plan of how they are actually rolling out this expansion. As of now, it's really been handled pretty terribly.
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mechtech
SRS Industries
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Posted - 2010.06.08 13:46:00 -
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 Originally by: Vilgan Mazran
leaving pos fuels up isn't necessarily a bad idea. Leaving up every single NPC sold good such that 80% of everything you can make with PI is worthless was not. Please consider removing all the other items asap, as it really kills the point of PI.
Unless I'm misunderstanding, PI is basically worthless, as the profitable items (there aren't that many) will quickly be oversaturate by the PI gold rush.
And on top of that, no CCP response yet. CCP needs to clarify this situation and give a concrete plan to players ASAP.
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mechtech
SRS Industries
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Posted - 2010.06.08 14:43:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Lady Ayeipsia
Actually, yes, I'm betting a lot of the whiners were expecting just this. They stockpiled POS goods without realizing the schedule that CCP planned and told us about. Now they have to whine because they are losing money.
Really, I should be the one who's whining. I'm laughing so much it hurts at the thought of people not taking care to actually find out what CCP have said about the roll-out before doing this kind of thing.
Ow. My sidesą 
Right, because it makes sense that you build some P4s by buying from NPC orders, and that there are border-line exploits where you can buy from NPC, combine quickly, and sell to NPC for profit.
NPC orders have no place in this new system, and need to go asap. Stockpiles will hold everyone over, it's not like the world will end.
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mechtech
SRS Industries
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Posted - 2010.06.08 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: PotatoOverdose
Obvious point: If PI is not profitable in the first place (i.e. npc sellers still exist), there is no motivation for people to invest there time into PI in the first place. If people don't invest there time into PI, PI will never enter 'full swing'. If PI never enters 'full swing', npc sell orders will never be removed. If npc sellers still exist, PI is not profitable in the first place. Catch-22.
Only way to make this work is to kill npc sell orders, creating a demand for PI, creating profit and a reason for people to invest in PI, causing PI to enter 'full swing'.
You can't honestly expect the market to go into full production of something for which there is no demand. I thought CCP hired an economist?
Exactly, NPC orders are lowering the demand for PI and making the market more stable, but at the same time most people are going to see PI as unprofitable (which is pretty much is with NPC orders in place) and move on to other things, which could permanently affect the growth of PI.
CCP should pull the tooth now and get it over with.
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mechtech
SRS Industries
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Posted - 2010.06.08 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: Grozen
However CCP will remove the orders in less then 2weeks
Reference? To my knowledge CCP is keeping us in the dark for some reason.
Just FYI CCP, whiney threads like this wouldn't exist if you kept the player base fully informed. Especially in matters that have to do with the market and our hard earned iskies ;)
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mechtech
SRS Industries
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Posted - 2010.06.08 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: Zartrader
Of course the NPC orders are still there. What made anyone think they would not be for a few weeks at least?
Oh, just CCPs stickied post stating they would be removed June 8th 
As of now there is no clear answer from CCP stating when or how the orders will be pulled, that's what most of us are waiting on.
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