That's an impressive level of illiteracy.

tys =)

Ok seems ccp wants to clean up everything up as of late

Great

Eve online is by fair the most in depth complex and wonderfull mmo i have ever come across

So heres my question what do you belave should be made more simple for new players to understand & why

And at what point as a player do you belave things become so easy its no fun

there is a difference between simplicity and functionality.

Certain mechanics are becoming simpler but more functional. It also allows for more improvements in coding. Other things are becoming more complex. More diverse ship setups for example.

This. the UI for EVE is improving which makes it more functional. but its not going to have button that blows up that gate camp in Passari, you still have to avoid that with your own brain.

Eve's combat system is quite simple and predictable actualy and has little to do with being complex, in many ways Wow is a lot more complex when fighting npc's

If EvE's PvP is so simple, why haven't you solved it an won*, noted internet spaceship pilot Mike Whiite?

The simplicity you're claiming is like claiming that Chess is simple because you've figured out how the pieces move and you've memorized some openings.


*Like Raids in WoW have been solved.

Eve is already too simple.

I may have to play this WOW game just so that I can understand all the comparisions between it and Eve.

Eve is an example of complexity for complexity's sake.

Try explain Eve aggro/session mechanics to a normal gamer, and they'll laugh in your face. It's not that they can't learn, most people just won't even try to understand something so arbitrary and downright stupid.

Some things should be complicated, others simple. Complexity done right adds content. Complexity gone wrong drives away players.

WoW is an example of making an MMO more simplistic as it gets older. Not an example to follow imo. Although in WoW it has character levels they make it easier and quicker to level as they add expansions so that it does not take any longer to reach the end game where most of the new content usually is.

For me if something in a game becomes too easy it becomes pointless. As for fun that can be different for different people.

I've only been back for several hours and the changes I have seen have been ok, they seem to have made a few things easier, but they have been welcome changes so far.

Easier to use does not necessarily mean the game is any easier, just that it's more efficient to use.

Why haven't I won?

Maybe you should look at the idea is behind a Sandbox.

I'll give you that that line is poorly written, my comparisation was ment as WoW NPC's to EVE NPC's

As for PvP


You can make it as complex for yourself as you want, but almost any set up done in eve work exactly the same in any other combat PvP situation.

Blobbing, stealth, brawlers, tanks are hardly EvE only terms, they will work everywhere, that leaves the players wits, and those will be exactly the same in any other game.

Tactics are almost the same Everywhere not unlike real life where warfare tactics are still copied form Alaxander the Great and Julius Ceasar.

As said before EVE complicity isn't in it's combat, but it's economical system, its physics system and players that are able to manipulate that.

Eve is an example of complexity for complexity's sake.

Try explain Eve aggro/session mechanics to a normal gamer, and they'll laugh in your face. It's not that they can't learn, most people just won't even try to understand something so arbitrary and downright stupid.

Some things should be complicated, others simple. Complexity done right adds content. Complexity gone wrong drives away players.