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CCP Claw
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Posted - 2010.06.08 14:39:00 -
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Round 2 Schedule
Standings after round 1
Enjoy :)
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James Tritanius
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Posted - 2010.06.08 14:40:00 -
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Edited by: James Tritanius on 08/06/2010 14:40:24
Holy ****! awesome! That was fast.
Edit: first
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
Guiding Hand Social Club
Dystopia Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.08 14:50:00 -
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Thanks ! Looking forward to our match Kadeshi, will be highly entertaining for everyone I promise. 
also good to see morsus mihi will advance to finals ! grats guys !
grats also to the following teams with guaranteed wins;
Panda Team
OWN Alliance
Intrepid Crossing
Huzzah Federation
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Shana Tirii
Lacco and The Gang
Paisti Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.06.08 15:01:00 -
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About the schedule, is our (Paisti vs Majesta) supposed to be the last or the first one after second day break? It is marked as the last but time says first (18:20) in the schedule page.
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QwaarJet
Gallente
hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.06.08 15:06:00 -
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 Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Thanks ! Looking forward to our match Kadeshi, will be highly entertaining for everyone I promise.
also good to see morsus mihi will advance to finals ! grats guys !
grats also to the following teams with guaranteed wins;
Panda Team
OWN Alliance
Intrepid Crossing
Huzzah Federation
Don't underestimate Perihelion TT.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
Guiding Hand Social Club
Dystopia Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.08 15:15:00 -
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why not i don't have to fight them ;d
srsly tho i don't think your victory is certain, just very likely
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Rokkit Kween
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Posted - 2010.06.08 15:28:00 -
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A couple of queries regarding the rankings.
I worked out my own rankings (available at http://keithneilson.co.uk/at8l-current-qualifying-standings-estimated/) and would like to know how the official ones were worked out so I can get my maths right for next weekend.
major points of difference are as follows:
HUN Reloaded and Pandemic Legion are the other way round in mine
All the Rank 30 teams in the official listing. I have CTL-Q, SOLAR, -TOR-, 47R, ATLAS, and LAWN in that order. The official listing has ATLAS, LAWN, CTL-Q, SOLAR, -TOR-, and 47R.
Erebus Alliance and Silver Twilight Enterprises are the other way round in mine.
All th rank 64 Teams in the official listing. I have EE, HF, IRC, IVY, -SF-, and AA in that order. The official listing has AA, EE, HF, IRC, IVY, and -SF-.
Any clarification of the ranking system would be greatly appreciated.
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CCP Claw
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Posted - 2010.06.08 15:38:00 -
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Tiebreak
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The current ranking (W/L, then points) of the last team that you defeated. Higher is better.
After round 1, many teams are completely equal on Points Scored, so we tiebreak on points scored by the opposition, which is also often equal.
After that, positions are randomized since there is no way to tiebreak.
Yes, a 2-round swiss system is incredibly strange and far from perfect.
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CCP Claw
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Posted - 2010.06.08 15:39:00 -
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Originally by: Shana Tirii
About the schedule, is our (Paisti vs Majesta) supposed to be the last or the first one after second day break? It is marked as the last but time says first (18:20) in the schedule page.
I just spotted this too.
CCP CAPSLOCK!!!!!!!
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Rokkit Kween
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Posted - 2010.06.08 15:47:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Claw
Tiebreak
After round 1, many teams are completely equal on Points Scored, so we tiebreak on points scored by the opposition, which is also often equal.
Is that final score, after win bonus and handicap and opponents unspent points or is it simply the points destroyed?
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Caellach Marellus
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2010.06.08 15:55:00 -
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Looking forward to LAWN vs R0NIN.
Also damn you for putting EM on at the same time as England vs USA 
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Thresh Avery
Best Path Inc.
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.08 16:28:00 -
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Here's the first football fan inevitable rage coming up - get ready!
"Dammit Claw, why do you hate me?! Not during the England USA match, rraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrghh!!! I HATE YOU forever!!!!"
That is all.
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Gary Goat
Yakuza Corp
THE R0NIN
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Posted - 2010.06.08 16:38:00 -
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Originally by: Caellach Marellus
Looking forward to LAWN vs R0NIN.
Also damn you for putting EM on at the same time as England vs USA
This
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Conmen
Shut Up And Play
WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2010.06.08 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Thresh Avery
Here's the first football fan inevitable rage coming up - get ready!
"Dammit Claw, why do you hate me?! Not during the England USA match, rraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrghh!!! I HATE YOU forever!!!!"
That is all.
Call it soccer english men do not play real sports like football.
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CCP Claw
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Posted - 2010.06.08 16:48:00 -
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Claw may have a solution to football related woes, since Claw also wants to keep up to date with the football.
STAY TUNED.
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Thresh Avery
Best Path Inc.
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.08 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Claw
Tiebreak
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The current ranking (W/L, then points) of the last team that you defeated. Higher is better.
After round 1, many teams are completely equal on Points Scored, so we tiebreak on points scored by the opposition, which is also often equal.
After that, positions are randomized since there is no way to tiebreak.
Yes, a 2-round swiss system is incredibly strange and far from perfect.
Ah, interesting. I feared it would be like this as it made predicting the schedule impossible. 
The way i did it in this thread was to look at any differences in the two teams due to points fielded.
For example:
Arbeitaholics Anonymous (97) vs. Get Off My Lawn (100)
Intrepid Crossing (99) vs. Atlas Alliance (100)
All the other teams that participated in a 125-0 match fielded 100 points each, so the way i rationalized it was that Arbeitaholics had a "harder match" to play due to not using the full 100 points. As a result, they could understandably be said to rank higher than the other zero point scorers, and IRC would rank next. So that means LAWN would be the higher ranking of the six 125-0 winners, then Atlas, because they beat a higher ranked losing team. The rest would be randomized.
Perhaps something to consider for next time? Or if you don't want to bother, fair enough.
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Zetler
Lacco and The Gang
Paisti Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.06.08 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Claw
Originally by: Shana Tirii
About the schedule, is our (Paisti vs Majesta) supposed to be the last or the first one after second day break? It is marked as the last but time says first (18:20) in the schedule page.
I just spotted this too.
CCP CAPSLOCK!!!!!!!
Cruisecontrol ON!
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Shana Tirii
Lacco and The Gang
Paisti Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.06.08 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Claw
Originally by: Shana Tirii
About the schedule, is our (Paisti vs Majesta) supposed to be the last or the first one after second day break? It is marked as the last but time says first (18:20) in the schedule page.
I just spotted this too.
CCP CAPSLOCK!!!!!!!
He actually went and fixed it. We don't care about the football Whatever Cup and have the most exciting tournament match spot as the last players of the qualifiers. Epic! :P
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Bogdan81
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.06.08 17:41:00 -
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Please write LEGIUNEA ROMANA, like in leGIon...
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Gary Goat
Yakuza Corp
THE R0NIN
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Posted - 2010.06.08 17:46:00 -
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Originally by: Conmen
Originally by: Thresh Avery
Here's the first football fan inevitable rage coming up - get ready!
"Dammit Claw, why do you hate me?! Not during the England USA match, rraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrghh!!! I HATE YOU forever!!!!"
That is all.
Call it soccer english men do not play real sports like football.
You mean rugby? 
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sp3cial forc3s
Sileo In Pacis
THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2010.06.08 17:53:00 -
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Originally by: Conmen
Originally by: Thresh Avery
Here's the first football fan inevitable rage coming up - get ready!
"Dammit Claw, why do you hate me?! Not during the England USA match, rraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrghh!!! I HATE YOU forever!!!!"
That is all.
Call it soccer english men do not play real sports like football.
American Football?? you mean the sport where all the ladies on the field wear helmets and massive amounts of padding??
Trying watching Rugby Union, an english sport which real men play 
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Zetler
Lacco and The Gang
Paisti Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.06.08 18:15:00 -
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Originally by: Conmen
Originally by: Thresh Avery
Here's the first football fan inevitable rage coming up - get ready!
"Dammit Claw, why do you hate me?! Not during the England USA match, rraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrghh!!! I HATE YOU forever!!!!"
That is all.
Call it soccer english men do not play real sports like football.
Handegg?
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Sadic Anark
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Posted - 2010.06.08 18:21:00 -
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Originally by: sp3cial forc3s
Originally by: Conmen
Originally by: Thresh Avery
Here's the first football fan inevitable rage coming up - get ready!
"Dammit Claw, why do you hate me?! Not during the England USA match, rraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrghh!!! I HATE YOU forever!!!!"
That is all.
Call it soccer english men do not play real sports like football.
American Football?? you mean the sport where all the ladies on the field wear helmets and massive amounts of padding??
Trying watching Rugby Union, an english sport which real men play
Agree 100%
And it¦s called football... only you call it "soccer", and only cause you call "football" a sport mainly played with your hands.
Off topic (?): Really nice matches coming next weekend!!!
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meppa
Kumovi
The G0dfathers
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Posted - 2010.06.08 18:41:00 -
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So you basically copied this table here?
http://spreadsheets1.google.com/ccc?key=t38RgHcQVyW9t3chtqoglOw&hl=en#gid=0
that has errors like teams with 126 points and then it has opponent scores upside down as second sort order? So basically AAA is one because it has one ghost point and lost most with ghost points??
Mayby you should redo math on your own without errors? ;)
-meps
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Cividari
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2010.06.08 19:20:00 -
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Originally by: meppa
Edited by: meppa on 08/06/2010 18:55:04
So you basically copied this table here?
http://spreadsheets1.google.com/ccc?key=t38RgHcQVyW9t3chtqoglOw&hl=en#gid=0
that has errors like teams with 126 points and then it has opponent scores upside down as second sort order? So basically AAA is one because it has one ghost point and lost most with ghost points??
Mayby you should redo math on your own without errors? ;)
-meps
My spreadsheet follows the rules posted.
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meppa
Kumovi
The G0dfathers
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Posted - 2010.06.08 20:02:00 -
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OMG sorry my bad, so it is, Doesn't still make sense but so it is... Sorry...
-meps
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MoHawk Nephilium
THE Perfectly Insane
Tactical Unison Allied Forces
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Posted - 2010.06.08 20:13:00 -
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Edited by: MoHawk Nephilium on 08/06/2010 20:15:59
Originally by: Thresh Avery
Here's the first football fan inevitable rage coming up - get ready!
"Dammit Claw, why do you hate me?! Not during the England USA match, rraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrghh!!! I HATE YOU forever!!!!"
That is all.
You silly goose, FOOTBALL season don't start for several months
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slave redeemer
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.08 20:56:00 -
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Originally by: Conmen
Originally by: Thresh Avery
Here's the first football fan inevitable rage coming up - get ready!
"Dammit Claw, why do you hate me?! Not during the England USA match, rraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrghh!!! I HATE YOU forever!!!!"
That is all.
Call it soccer english men do not play real sports like football.
All that padding on your american crap....real men play rugby  |
only me
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Posted - 2010.06.08 20:58:00 -
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so how can a team score 126 points???? loss 52 points and be placed 1st
1 off many
Cry Havoc got 7th place. 125 points for clearing the field and winning, and had 45 points in lossess.
Monks of War placed 14 place. win 125 points, and loss 18 points
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Cividari
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2010.06.08 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: only me
so how can a team score 126 points???? loss 52 points and be placed 1st
1 off many
Cry Havoc got 7th place. 125 points for clearing the field and winning, and had 45 points in lossess.
Monks of War placed 14 place. win 125 points, and loss 18 points
I suggest you read the rules, I will even copy the relevant parts for you:
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Rankings
If at any point, teams are level in Win/Loss and also level in points scored, the following will be used in order to determine ranking position.
1. If the teams disputing rank have fought each other at any point, the winner is higher.
2. The current ranking (W/L, then points) of the last team that you defeated. Higher is better.
3. The current ranking of the last team that defeated you. Again, higher is better.
and
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Intentional Handicaps
If a team begins the match with less points value worth of ships than their opponent, and wins the match, they score extra ranking points equal to the difference in the two teamsĘ values.
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