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Astenion
Blame The Bunny
Bunny Nation
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Posted - 2010.06.25 14:11:00 -
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Bah, the Amarr have always managed to thrive simply through theocratic loopholes and hypocritical dogma, a race of hypocrites who simply choose to turn a blind eye to that which they don't want to see but is staring them right in the face. The persecution and subjugation of others is perfectly fine as long as they themselves aren't the ones being persecuted and subjugated, yet the irony of it all is that they themselves are actually the slaves. Trying to reason with or understand not just megalomaniacs but IDEALISTIC, HYPOCRITICAL megalomaniacs is futile.
The Amarr are a race of people strikingly similar to a race that existed eons ago on a planet called Earth; they followed a "religion" called Islam and subsequently killed each other off due to intolerance of free-thinking.
Does that mean that the Amarr are mean, evil people? No, at least not all of them...they're just not to be trusted. They will always side with their invisible god in the sky and their schizophrenic goddess and call it divine guidance rather than face reality.
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Mathhew Kane
Minmatar
Gradient
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2010.06.25 14:31:00 -
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While I am not one to simply defend "enemies" of the Republic, I do have a distaste for blatant misguided fallacies.
 Originally by: Astenion
Bah, the Amarr have always managed to thrive simply through theocratic loopholes and hypocritical dogma
And perhaps technology that outdated what anyone else had for hundreds, if not thousands of years? I mean, when your the only people who have frickin lazor weapons, it's kinda easy to thrive then eh?
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a race of hypocrites who simply choose to turn a blind eye to that which they don't want to see but is staring them right in the face.
Can't the same be said of all of us at one point or another?
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The persecution and subjugation of others is perfectly fine as long as they themselves aren't the ones being persecuted and subjugated, yet the irony of it all is that they themselves are actually the slaves.
More true then you know. A large (huge some might say) percentage of slaves in Amarr space happen to be Ammarians. Slavedom for a period of time is a common enough punishment for various crimes that many people will find themselves beholden to a Holder. You must remember that to the Amarr, ideally slavery isn't supposed to be simple mindless servitude. Rather it is a conditioning that awakes within a person the understanding that EVERYONE is a slave to something else. Even The Empress is a "slave" to the will of God, as must we all be. Indeed, when we understand that truth, that God must be our Master first and foremost, only then will our lives be ordered.
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Trying to reason with or understand not just megalomaniacs but IDEALISTIC, HYPOCRITICAL megalomaniacs is futile.
As opposed to yourself I wonder? How many of my Matar brothers have committed horrible acts of terrorism against unarmed groups of civilians simply because of the way they look? I don't see the damned Bloody Hand of Matar (or whatever that worthless group of killers call themselves) posting dissenting theological and philosophical papers.
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The Amarr are a race of people strikingly similar to a race that existed eons ago on a planet called Earth; they followed a "religion" called Islam and subsequently killed each other off due to intolerance of free-thinking.
...I don't think I really need to say anything here.
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Does that mean that the Amarr are mean, evil people? No, at least not all of them...they're just not to be trusted.
If not all of them are mean and evil people, that would mean, logically, that some of them are good and holy people with all that entails. Are you saying you can't trust a good person because of what race they are?
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They will always side with their invisible god in the sky and their schizophrenic goddess and call it divine guidance rather than face reality.
One, the empress is not a "goddess". Holy and divinely guided maybe, but she is not omnipotent. Second, in a population as large as Amarr space, you will find an atheist or thousand. Third, simply because we do believe in a divine author does not mean we can't "face reality". Reality has a nasty habit of letting itself known to even the most stubborn and insane of pilots. Ask an Egger who's Pod's been breached if you don't believe me.
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Loyalty is simply slavery of ones own choosing. If ever you have the choice, Choose your master well."
My Step Father, Isikile Kane.
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Astenion
Blame The Bunny
Bunny Nation
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Posted - 2010.06.25 15:01:00 -
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Well said, and all points noted. It would be remiss to lump all Amarr into a single entity, like a collective hive-mind; as you have said, there are many, many people in the Amarr empire who choose to follow their own path, albeit said path is more of a tightrope.
I shouldn't neglect to say that I am neither for nor against the Amarr; I really don't care about their religious zealotry and whether or not they have slaves. What I am talking about has more to do with honesty. If the Amarr would just come out and say, "Yes, we hide behind our religion in order to justify our way of life, and we really like having slaves because we love power and love holding that power over other people..." then I would have a completely different opinion. Whatever floats your frigate is fine with me...sure, it sucks to be a slave but oh well.
I'm calling on the Amarr not so much to change their ways, but to stop hiding behind them and own up to it.
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Anabella Rella
Minmatar
Gradient
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2010.06.25 19:32:00 -
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Sister Louella as with anything I post here in IGS this topic is my personal opinion only and is not to be taken as any sort of official pronouncement of either my employer, or alliance.
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Gosakumori Noh
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Posted - 2010.06.25 22:58:00 -
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Originally by: Astenion
The Amarr are a race of people strikingly similar to a race that existed eons ago on a planet called Earth; they followed a "religion" called Islam.
What fragmentary historical foundations we have for Amarr's theology identify the "religion" in question as "Unified Catholic."
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Astenion
Blame The Bunny
Bunny Nation
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Posted - 2010.06.27 21:29:00 -
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Edited by: Astenion on 27/06/2010 21:30:17
Originally by: Gosakumori Noh
Originally by: Astenion
The Amarr are a race of people strikingly similar to a race that existed eons ago on a planet called Earth; they followed a "religion" called Islam.
What fragmentary historical foundations we have for Amarr's theology identify the "religion" in question as "Unified Catholic."
Timeline
Yes, but those drones went through two enlightenments and eventually the people eradicated the religion by simply not needing it anymore, not eradicating each other like that ancient desert hypocrisy.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2010.06.27 21:46:00 -
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What's a Muslims?
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Astenion
Blame The Bunny
Bunny Nation
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Posted - 2010.06.27 21:49:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
What's a Muslims?
It's a sort of whole-wheat and grain mix with barley and oats....wait...
Nevermind...that was called Mueslix.
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Primaryis Myship
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Posted - 2010.06.27 23:38:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
What's a Muslims?
As I recall, it's a type of woven fabric popular on certain Gallente worlds.
Or was that muslin?
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Andreus LeHane
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2010.06.28 01:09:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
What's a Muslims?
I think it's some sort of diet powder.
Or was that You-Slim?
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