EVE Search - The Damned

All Channels

Intergalactic Summit

The Damned

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 :: [one page]
Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
Jesmine Kyriel Amarr House Kyriel Inc.	Posted - 2010.06.09 20:05:00 - [1] Edited by: Jesmine Kyriel on 09/06/2010 20:06:22 This list will attempt to log every man and woman among the capsuleers that offer their loyalty or assistance to the Godless abomination known as Sansha's Nation. Each and every one of these should never be trusted again, marked for their betrayal and vilified for all future. None among them should ever be forgiven, offered employment, aid or companionship. It has been over two weeks since the last attack, and while the treat will always remain, for now it might appear the Nation has filled it's quota on victims. This would be the opportune time for any able force loyal to Humanity to strike and bring these collaborators to justice. There are 139 entries in the list as of 09.06.112, 15 corporations and 124 pilots. The list is not complete and will need updating. If you know of any Sansha collaborators not on this list, make a note below and I will update the list as I go. Some degree of credible evidence will need to be offered to prevent miss-use of this list. Pilots: ---------- A. ----- Alexis Mercer Aries Darkstar Ariliia Acemoto Alexander Tesla Avan Sercedos Aodha Khan Ang3lic4 Anskelmi Lammenreuna AveryFaneActual Acer Rubrum B. ----- BacardiDesire Braincandy bobrek Breekalles BruisedMoon Bubanni Bam Bash Brutalmeteor Blood Drainer C. ----- Cynojun Cristinutza Crimson Midnight Cellman Budda Cmdr Zander Chereadenine Zakalwe Copine Callmeknau Carcosa Hali C Walken Commander Krispy D. ----- Diizzie Doctor Carbonatite Daddys Mistress DeadRow E. ----- Eulyis emllik ECHAeries Emisune F. ----- Faolan Fortune Finorah G. ----- Gen Kumon GentleChaos Goshien Aiel Graanvlokkie Ghost hunter Gal Atan Go Down H. ----- Hester Shaw Hellz Hitman HalogenWraith I. ----- Izzychan Ilio Hae Icer Xx ihcn Iramia Oursta industrial oblitorator Isabella Khan J. ----- Julia Varinius Joe Shooter jdok JUDGE REAPER Jae FelSaen JordanParey JiaLei Lian K. ----- Korinne Kytess Kyonoke Kuvakei Kenrailae Knot'Kul Sun Kateryne L. ----- Lost Hamster Lillith Blackheart Lars Foolsbane Leona Armswraith M. ----- Melleia Mandrid X Madelaine Maz'rym Mortis Noir Melleia N. ----- Natalcya Katla Nick119 Nola Doyle Nocturnal Prince Nikilaiki Ruutarhara Niraia O. ----- omarey P. ----- PHPR Freighter Peter Delasangre Pritch R. ----- Rear Infiltration Revan Neferis Ruby Amatucci Rogue steel Raptor GUN retcar S. ----- Servus Liber Sven Stellanoskovich Samantha Vosh Skippermonkey Skjordr Longfang Scopique Solomar Espersei S'jet Hardukar T. ----- Tofus Tzujira Dawase Traxata t L tee wrecks Tri Vetla Taliya Valkorva Taurin Letonil U. ----- Unit Zachary V. ----- Victoria Stecker Venariel Valzier W. ----- WizWaz Weynard X. ----- Xavier Fate Y. ----- Yukiko Yoshida Yo****e McLulzypants Z. ----- Zeta Gabriel (1-9). ----- 5ansha Kuvakei _________________________ Reformist holder, loyal to House Kyriel and the Amarrian Empire.
Jesmine Kyriel Amarr House Kyriel Inc.	Posted - 2010.06.09 20:11:00 - [2] Corporations: --------------- Carebear Dissection Technologies Interspacial Specialists Naquam No-Mercy NeuroGEN Order of the Chaotic PURE. RND cult Soulless Armada Suddenly Ninjas Tedan Tippedai Tempest Legion True Progression Tomorrowland Orphanage True Slave Foundations _________________________ Reformist holder, loyal to House Kyriel and the Amarrian Empire.
Samantha Vosh Minmatar	Posted - 2010.06.10 08:04:00 - [3] May i ask what prove you have that makes me a Sansha loyalist? I'm willing to clarify this misunderstanding.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2010.06.10 08:11:00 - [4] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 10/06/2010 08:11:55 I applaud this initiative by House Kyriel. Originally by: Samantha Vosh May i ask what prove you have that makes me a Sansha loyalist? I'm willing to clarify this misunderstanding. Perhaps asking Sansha to enlighten you had something to do it. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Aria Jenneth Caldari Kumiho's Smile	Posted - 2010.06.10 08:12:00 - [5] Originally by: Samantha Vosh May i ask what prove you have that makes me a Sansha loyalist? I'm willing to clarify this misunderstanding. Originally by: IGS topic "Come forth, my children." Originally by: Master Kuvakei Pledge your allegiance to my Nation. Show to the world that we stand united. Originally by: Samantha Vosh Sansha, enlighten me. Both posts quoted in their entirety. Yes, Ms. Vosh, please do clarify.
Chereadenine Zakalwe Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2010.06.10 08:37:00 - [6] Edited by: Chereadenine Zakalwe on 10/06/2010 08:37:30 I withdraw my support for the nation due to the fact that my "new members" bonus prize of a Nightmare class BS, plus set of Hi grade slaves seems to have been lost by Interbus ô您&# Telling somebody you love them is like firing first in a dual. Your screwed if you miss..
Chell Charon Ancile Nike	Posted - 2010.06.10 08:41:00 - [7] About as accurate as Synean "intel" has been in general. Do carry on.
Chereadenine Zakalwe Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2010.06.10 08:43:00 - [8] Originally by: Rodj Blake Edited by: Rodj Blake on 10/06/2010 08:11:55 I applaud this initiative by House Kyriel. Originally by: Samantha Vosh May i ask what prove you have that makes me a Sansha loyalist? I'm willing to clarify this misunderstanding. Perhaps asking Sansha to enlighten you had something to do it. As much as i respect you, and the great PIE (amarr victor). Perhaps the lady was asking for just that? Sarcasm perhaps? Me on the other hand.. I but wished to aquire,(by whatever means needed) and then to turn the zombie`s technology on its own makers. And then perhaps after the melee..travel to Providence to help "enlighten" some misguided slaves that seem to be infesting the region... ô您&# Telling somebody you love them is like firing first in a dual. Your screwed if you miss..
Samantha Vosh Minmatar	Posted - 2010.06.10 08:57:00 - [9] I've asked him to clarify his truth to me. To get him explain his truth to me. So far i've not recieved any answer. And i've tried to gain that knowledge from the loyalist. Yet they can't tell me what Sansha's truth is. To decide which side to join i needed information about the future, plans and ideas. Yet Sansha or any of his loyalist couldn't provide this. I am still undecided, but, be assured for i have the means to decide the future of every Sansha slave. Twilight Guide, Samantha Vosh
Sinti Vailatti	Posted - 2010.06.10 13:45:00 - [10] Two words: Locator Agents. Two more: Tally ho!! Serving the Dark Amarr
Izanami Rei Caldari ForgeTech Industries	Posted - 2010.06.10 13:57:00 - [11] At best you have been felled by your own ambiguous choice of words, at worst it is exactly what it seems, sadly either will be difficult to rectify.
Syn Callibri Minmatar Blacklight Incorporated	Posted - 2010.06.10 14:16:00 - [12] Originally by: Samantha Vosh I've asked him to clarify his truth to me. To get him explain his truth to me. So far i've not recieved any answer. And i've tried to gain that knowledge from the loyalist. Yet they can't tell me what Sansha's truth is. To decide which side to join i needed information about the future, plans and ideas. Yet Sansha or any of his loyalist couldn't provide this. I am still undecided, but, be assured for i have the means to decide the future of every Sansha slave. Twilight Guide, Samantha Vosh Though I can't help but question the verasity of your statment...I can at the least offer you some common sense. If you asked for the "truth" from Sansha and his loyalists, the very fact that none was forthcoming should be a clear indicator that there is no truth to be had...perhaps? (The views expressed may not be those of Blacklight Inc.)
Samantha Vosh Minmatar	Posted - 2010.06.10 16:35:00 - [13] Every story has two sides, just as this war. Both sides tell a part of it which the other doesn't know. You see the taking of people as abductions. They see it as uplifting. As every action has a reason i've tasked myself to discover them. That includes the part of their side. Their truth. Twilight guide, Samantha Vosh
Castor Danton Gallente	Posted - 2010.06.10 16:41:00 - [14] "Sansha, enlighten me." Why does that sound to me like the title of a cheap **** holoreel I've seen a while back... Might sound like an idea if it doesn't exist. Dear Samantha Vosh, if you end up being an outcast of some sort I could introduce you to a producer in verge Vendor. Most people planet-side fantasise about the Sansha where I come from. And have weird conception of what they are. As far as I'm concerned no spiky ship is welcome within a 45km radius. And may I ask out of curiosity to you miss Kyriel, why more specifically hating the Sansha? It's not as if they where the only threat in Eve people are doing business with. Best regards Castor Danton
Syn Callibri Minmatar Blacklight Incorporated	Posted - 2010.06.10 16:45:00 - [15] Originally by: Samantha Vosh Every story has two sides, just as this war. Both sides tell a part of it which the other doesn't know. You see the taking of people as abductions. They see it as uplifting. As every action has a reason i've tasked myself to discover them. That includes the part of their side. Their truth. Twilight guide, Samantha Vosh Pilot...your missing the point here. They haven't told you thier "truth" because there isn't one to tell you. A point which is validated not by me, but by the non-disclosing attitude of Sansha and his loyalists...take the hint. It shouldn't take being hit by a runaway battlecruiser for you to see it. (The views expressed may not be those of Blacklight Inc.)
Norrin Ellis Heritage Foundation	Posted - 2010.06.10 17:02:00 - [16] Thank you for compiling a convenient list, Ms. Kyriel.
Samantha Vosh Minmatar	Posted - 2010.06.10 18:16:00 - [17] Syn, you do not know the position i'm in, nor the point of view i have. And probably, you will not understand it either. As for Castor, I'm an outcast already. Born to become one, learned to be one. And, thanks for the compliment but i have to turn down your request for that holoreel. Twilight guide, Samantha Vosh
Castor Danton Gallente	Posted - 2010.06.10 20:57:00 - [18] It was indeed a compliment, a slightly twisted one but a compliment nonetheless. And a joke, I seriously doubt any planet dweller able to pay anything worthy for someone like us, even a producer of widely distributed "entertainment holoreel". And the only truth I'm interested in with the Sansha's horde: are they still building ships? And are they crewed with fanatics or true-slave in your opinion? My point being, if all they became is just another bunch of pirates hiding behind some sick ideology and the true-slaves condemned to disappear then this list is probably giving them more advertisement than harm. I mean you know how some capsuleer are when it comes to ISK ... Restrained market and higher risk mean more profit. I like doing simple business with them: I provide ammo Concord pay me when enough as been delivered to one of them. And as I'm not the type taking risk: If I engage them means they aren't that dangerous.
eddie valvetino Caldari Bi-Polar Bears	Posted - 2010.06.10 23:44:00 - [19] Originally by: Jesmine Kyriel Corporations: --------------- Carebear Dissection Technologies Interspacial Specialists Naquam No-Mercy NeuroGEN Order of the Chaotic PURE. RND cult Soulless Armada Suddenly Ninjas Tedan Tippedai Tempest Legion True Progression Tomorrowland Orphanage True Slave Foundations Bi-Polar Bears, don't forget that bunch of s****bags, they even went as far as wardec'ing corps that were trying to defend against the Sansha Menace (\_/) (O.o) (> <)
Goshien Aiel Gallente The Black Rabbits Academy The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2010.06.11 01:15:00 - [20] Sheesh not even a trial before they brand you some sort of menace to society. -----------------------------------
Jesmine Kyriel Amarr House Kyriel Inc.	Posted - 2010.06.11 02:04:00 - [21] Edited by: Jesmine Kyriel on 11/06/2010 02:04:26 Mr. Aiel, offering your support to Sansha's nation as 'old allies of the Guristas' is indeed being a danger to society. In your case, you were an annoyance to society from long before that even. As for Mr. valvetino, if your that eager to be branded a Sansha helper, I'll indulge you. As you mention it, I do recall your exploits from before. Miss Vosh, you are on the list for the exact same reasons listed above by others. Beyond that, Mr. Viktor Javious has recently announced he was allways loyal to Sansha. His name has been added as well. _________________________ Reformist holder, loyal to House Kyriel and the Amarrian Empire.
Goshien Aiel Gallente The Black Rabbits Academy The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2010.06.11 03:02:00 - [22] Yes and what evidence do you have to support this claim that I have offered my support? -----------------------------------
Jesmine Kyriel Amarr House Kyriel Inc.	Posted - 2010.06.11 03:19:00 - [23] Originally by: Goshien Aiel Yes and what evidence do you have to support this claim that I have offered my support? You seem to have a short memory. I'll enlighten you. Originally by: Goshien Aiel Well if were allies... anyone I find engaging Sansha forces will be considered targets of opportunity. Above those who already are anyway. Straight from the tread started by Sansha himself. Saying you will consider those stopping Sansha 'targets of opportunity' is indeed assisting the Sansha. Was there anything else, while we were at it? _________________________ Reformist holder, loyal to House Kyriel and the Amarrian Empire.
Myxx Gallente	Posted - 2010.06.11 03:34:00 - [24] Ms Kyriel, Please open up a communications link with me as soon as is possible. I would like to speak with you. Thank you.
Nola Doyle NeuroGEN	Posted - 2010.06.11 03:50:00 - [25] Your aid, comfort, and companionship are not wanted. Your pursuit of justice is not only astonishingly hypocritical but nothing more than an impotent gesture. The objective has been accomplished and your Coalition has failed. I am confident your Empire has been diligent in replenishing its reservoir of forced labor in the interim, and the supply of crew members for your Crusade will not be interrupted by this event.
Jesmine Kyriel Amarr House Kyriel Inc.	Posted - 2010.06.11 04:08:00 - [26] Originally by: Nola Doyle Your aid, comfort, and companionship are not wanted. Your pursuit of justice is not only astonishingly hypocritical but nothing more than an impotent gesture. The objective has been accomplished and your Coalition has failed. I am confident your Empire has been diligent in replenishing its reservoir of forced labor in the interim, and the supply of crew members for your Crusade will not be interrupted by this event. Whatever your oppinion on me, my Empire or our ways is, this attack from Sansha's nation affected everyone and were thus an assault on humanity at large. Your master seeks to have us all enslaved for his twisted 'dream' of a world where everyone answers as HE desires, unable to even think of or even consider the option of saying, 'no'. Our Coalition added an astronomical tally of lost battleships, capitals and support to the Nation assaults, far in excess of the millions you abducted. Every loss of an Imperial's life is a reason to mourn, however in pure numbers of souls, our's were the greater number of losses inflicted on the enemy. Yours were losses taken by one force, we shared our losses across the Empires. We also had far, far greater numbers to draw upon to begin with. Not to mention the most likely reason the assault stopped is because the prize of continuing them in the face of ever-increasing Coalition effectiveness in responce and combat, became far to costly compared to possible gains. I believe your attempt to pain this as any kind of victory for the Nation or me as a hypocrite rings a tad hollow, Miss. Doyle. Miss. Myxx, I'll be in touch at a later time, when I can spare it. For now, I've exhausted my available time and must return to my planet-side duties as Holder. _________________________ Reformist holder, loyal to House Kyriel and the Amarrian Empire.
Goshien Aiel Gallente The Black Rabbits Academy The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2010.06.11 04:24:00 - [27] Originally by: Jesmine Kyriel Originally by: Goshien Aiel Yes and what evidence do you have to support this claim that I have offered my support? You seem to have a short memory. For I am the right hand of Sansha Kuvakei himself, I prostate myself at his feet and give him a lapdance when I'm feeling frisky. Originally by: Goshien Aiel No Jesmine don't give into his wiles. I will stand firm against you Kuvakei for what you have done to this poor woman! Clearly doctored. I have found what was really said before it was cunningly altered to implicate me. -----------------------------------
Gal Atan	Posted - 2010.06.11 04:34:00 - [28] I NATION I make no excuses or apologies for my declared allegiance. I was not there for material gains or glory hunting, only to see Nation rise again. I am now as I was then dedicated to Nation
Myxx Gallente	Posted - 2010.06.11 05:13:00 - [29] Please add Jade Constantine to this list, she is married to someone who has willingly supported the nation and thusly supports it in turn.
Jesmine Kyriel Amarr House Kyriel Inc.	Posted - 2010.06.11 14:41:00 - [30] Edited by: Jesmine Kyriel on 11/06/2010 14:43:33 Charming, Mr. Aiel, really charming. Your name will remain on this list despite your childish antics. Mr. Gal atan's name is allready on the list, however I've added his corporation, True Citizen, for completeness. Originally by: Myxx Edited by: Myxx on 11/06/2010 05:27:09 Please add Jade Constantine to this list, she is married to someone who has willingly supported the nation and thusly supports it in turn. You should also probably add Kaleigh Doyle to it, although if her participation is willing or not is questionable, given the status of her sister Nola may of had something to do with it being otherwise. That really quite pained me to hear, given I had a lot of respect for Kaleigh. Revan Neferis has openly and proudly declared her intent to aid Sansha and is on the list for a good reason. However, her... wife, Jade Constantine, is not. While Mrs. Constantine has not condemned her wife and opposed her, she has not done anything to actively aid Sansha, far as I am aware. If we added people to this list for innaction towards either aid or opposition to Sansha, we would never finish. If I am to add Constantine to the list I will need a bit more concrete evidence she really belongs here. I'm trying to prevent the list from being abused, you see. As for Kaleigh Doyle, do we know if she has assisted the Nation or is she assumed to do so through her sister? _________________________ Reformist holder, loyal to House Kyriel and the Amarrian Empire.
Jesmine Kyriel Amarr House Kyriel Inc.	Posted - 2010.06.11 15:05:00 - [31] Edited by: Jesmine Kyriel on 11/06/2010 15:22:15 It would appear Kaleigh Doyle has joined NeuroGEN. As this is an act of direct support of a corporation affiliated with the Nation her name has been added to the list. Especially vile act as I understand she assisted the anti-Nation Coalition earlier. EDIT Also, in light of recent revelations made to me, it appears that Jade Constantine do indeed belong on this list. It as been updated. _________________________ Reformist holder, loyal to House Kyriel and the Amarrian Empire.
Declin Mactire Caldari DAEDALUS X The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.06.11 16:52:00 - [32] You're missing Drake Arson.
Jesmine Kyriel Amarr House Kyriel Inc.	Posted - 2010.06.11 18:03:00 - [33] Originally by: Declin Mactire You're missing Drake Arson. Maybe I have. Why should this person be on the list? _________________________ Reformist holder, loyal to House Kyriel and the Amarrian Empire.
Sofia Roseburn Caldari The Synenose Accord	Posted - 2010.06.11 18:37:00 - [34] Originally by: Jesmine Kyriel Originally by: Declin Mactire You're missing Drake Arson. Maybe I have. Why should this person be on the list? Well he is Peter Delasangre's CEO, and he has been engaging anti-Nation capsuleers. If that's not enough to condemn a man, I don't know what is. ---
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.06.11 22:46:00 - [35] Originally by: Jesmine Kyriel Edited by: Jesmine Kyriel on 11/06/2010 18:36:59 This list will attempt to log every man and woman among the capsuleers that offer their loyalty or assistance to the Godless abomination known as Sansha's Nation. Each and every one of these should never be trusted again, marked for their betrayal and vilified for all future. None among them should ever be forgiven, offered employment, aid or companionship. It has been over two weeks since the last attack, and while the treat will always remain, for now it might appear the Nation has filled it's quota on victims. This would be the opportune time for any able force loyal to Humanity to strike and bring these collaborators to justice. There are 143 entries in the list as of 011.06.112, 16 corporations and 127 pilots. The list is not complete and will need updating. If you know of any Sansha collaborators not on this list, make a note below and I will update the list as I go. Some degree of credible evidence will need to be offered to prevent miss-use of this list. Pilots: ---------- A. ----- Alexis Mercer Aries Darkstar Ariliia Acemoto Alexander Tesla Avan Sercedos Aodha Khan Ang3lic4 Anskelmi Lammenreuna AveryFaneActual Acer Rubrum B. ----- BacardiDesire Braincandy bobrek Breekalles BruisedMoon Bubanni Bam Bash Brutalmeteor Blood Drainer C. ----- Cynojun Cristinutza Crimson Midnight Cellman Budda Cmdr Zander Chereadenine Zakalwe Copine Callmeknau Carcosa Hali C Walken Commander Krispy D. ----- Diizzie Doctor Carbonatite Daddys Mistress DeadRow Drake Arson E. ----- Eulyis eddie valvetino emllik ECHAeries Emisune F. ----- Faolan Fortune Finorah G. ----- Gen Kumon GentleChaos Goshien Aiel Graanvlokkie Ghost hunter Gal Atan Go Down H. ----- Hester Shaw Hellz Hitman HalogenWraith I. ----- Izzychan Ilio Hae Icer Xx ihcn Iramia Oursta industrial oblitorator Isabella Khan J. ----- Julia Varinius Joe Shooter Jade Constantine jdok JUDGE REAPER Jae FelSaen JordanParey JiaLei Lian K. ----- Korinne Kytess Kaleigh Doyle Kyonoke Kuvakei Kenrailae Knot'Kul Sun Kateryne L. ----- Lost Hamster Lillith Blackheart Lars Foolsbane Leona Armswraith M. ----- Melleia Mandrid X Madelaine Maz'rym Mortis Noir Melleia N. ----- Natalcya Katla Nick119 Nola Doyle Nocturnal Prince Nikilaiki Ruutarhara Niraia O. ----- omarey P. ----- PHPR Freighter Peter Delasangre Pritch R. ----- Rear Infiltration Revan Neferis Ruby Amatucci Rogue steel Raptor GUN retcar S. ----- Servus Liber Sven Stellanoskovich Samantha Vosh Skippermonkey Skjordr Longfang Scopique Solomar Espersei S'jet Hardukar T. ----- Tofus Tzujira Dawase Traxata t L tee wrecks Tri Vetla Taliya Valkorva Taurin Letonil U. ----- Unit Zachary V. ----- Victoria Stecker Venariel Viktor Javious Valzier W. ----- WizWaz Weynard X. ----- Xavier Fate Y. ----- Yukiko Yoshida (Deceased) Yo****e McLulzypants Z. ----- Zeta Gabriel (0-9). ----- 5ansha Kuvakei I am not a supporter of Sansha's Nation and your list is a farce. If you want to justify aggression against the Free Captains then try something else. Chatsubo RP Discussion
Sofia Roseburn Caldari The Synenose Accord	Posted - 2010.06.11 23:08:00 - [36] Originally by: Jade Constantine I am not a supporter of Sansha's Nation and your list is a farce. If you want to justify aggression against the Free Captains then try something else. Well that didn't take long. No need to quote the whole list though. ---
Valdezi Amarr	Posted - 2010.06.11 23:36:00 - [37] It's still the shortest Jade Constantine post of all time.
Jesmine Kyriel Amarr House Kyriel Inc.	Posted - 2010.06.12 01:35:00 - [38] Originally by: Jade Constantine I am not a supporter of Sansha's Nation and your list is a farce. If you want to justify aggression against the Free Captains then try something else. My list is neither a farce nor agression towards your alliance in particular. It is a public information dump trying to list everyone who have aided the Nation in some way, and your name was added to the list recently in light of evidence provided that you have done more to aid the Nation than hinder them. Having said that, if you wish to defend yourself and inform me of why your name should be removed, you are free to do so at any time; I'm trying to keep this list accurate and false entires do not help in that regard. _________________________ Reformist holder, loyal to House Kyriel and the Amarrian Empire.
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.06.12 01:41:00 - [39] Originally by: Jesmine Kyriel My list is neither a farce nor agression towards your alliance in particular. It is a public information dump trying to list everyone who have aided the Nation in some way, and your name was added to the list recently in light of evidence provided that you have done more to aid the Nation than hinder them. Perhaps you'd like to explain to me how wardeccing the prominent Sansha-supporting capsuleer corps to allow my comrades amongst the free captains to eliminate their agents in space counts as aiding the Nation? Chatsubo RP Discussion
Lady Sylvanna	Posted - 2010.06.12 02:32:00 - [40] If I still had it in me to be sentimental I might almost feel left out here. Please add me to the list, as I take pride in serving the Nation. __________
Ghost Hunter True Slave Foundations	Posted - 2010.06.12 02:42:00 - [41] Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: Jesmine Kyriel My list is neither a farce nor agression towards your alliance in particular. It is a public information dump trying to list everyone who have aided the Nation in some way, and your name was added to the list recently in light of evidence provided that you have done more to aid the Nation than hinder them. Perhaps you'd like to explain to me how wardeccing the prominent Sansha-supporting capsuleer corps to allow my comrades amongst the free captains to eliminate their agents in space counts as aiding the Nation? To my knowledge, we incurred no losses and with two notable exceptions, never encountered the Star Fraction attempting to interdict us. This may be incorrect, I speak only from my experience. Related, did Mr. Heartstone have an accompanying battlegroup when he sought to expose and pin down my Widow-class? I could not figure out his objective when there were no Star Fraction forces nearby to aid him. ______ True Slave Foundations Overseer
Jalenar Frost Gallente CryoCycle	Posted - 2010.06.12 02:42:00 - [42] Originally by: Jesmine Kyriel Edited by: Jesmine Kyriel on 11/06/2010 15:22:15 It would appear Kaleigh Doyle has joined NeuroGEN. As this is an act of direct support of a corporation affiliated with the Nation her name has been added to the list. I am restricted from saying more, but it is quite innappropriate to list Kaleigh Doyle as an unredeemable supporter of Sansha, if she can even be considered to be one at all (Corporate affiliations are not everything). Of course, It's all about me.
Koronakesh Amarr DAEDALUS X The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.06.12 03:15:00 - [43] Originally by: Ghost Hunter Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: Jesmine Kyriel My list is neither a farce nor agression towards your alliance in particular. It is a public information dump trying to list everyone who have aided the Nation in some way, and your name was added to the list recently in light of evidence provided that you have done more to aid the Nation than hinder them. Perhaps you'd like to explain to me how wardeccing the prominent Sansha-supporting capsuleer corps to allow my comrades amongst the free captains to eliminate their agents in space counts as aiding the Nation? To my knowledge, we incurred no losses and with two notable exceptions, never encountered the Star Fraction attempting to interdict us. This may be incorrect, I speak only from my experience. Related, did Mr. Heartstone have an accompanying battlegroup when he sought to expose and pin down my Widow-class? I could not figure out his objective when there were no Star Fraction forces nearby to aid him. He didn't. And Miss Kyriel's statement that the Fraction assists Nation is somewhat ridiculous, if not outright idiotic.
Goshien Aiel Gallente The Black Rabbits Academy The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2010.06.12 03:21:00 - [44] Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: Jesmine Kyriel My list is neither a farce nor agression towards your alliance in particular. It is a public information dump trying to list everyone who have aided the Nation in some way, and your name was added to the list recently in light of evidence provided that you have done more to aid the Nation than hinder them. Perhaps you'd like to explain to me how wardeccing the prominent Sansha-supporting capsuleer corps to allow my comrades amongst the free captains to eliminate their agents in space counts as aiding the Nation? Well you are helping one of them get off after a long day. Stress relief, and all that. -----------------------------------
Jesmine Kyriel Amarr House Kyriel Inc.	Posted - 2010.06.12 13:38:00 - [45] Originally by: Koronakesh Miss Kyriel's statement that the Fraction assists Nation is somewhat ridiculous, if not outright idiotic. The reason the list separates pilots and corporations is because I'm trying not to brush one pilot's support for the Nation as the entire corporation's support for the Nation. The corporation's on the list are the one's where a blanket statement of support has been declared for all, or one where the CEO is declaring support for the Nation, the nature of corporate leadership usually means the entire corp is then assisting the Nation. The only reason Jade Constantine is on the list and SF IS NOT, is because while SF has shown willingness to and made direct action against Nation supporters, thus excluding them all from the list, Mrs. Constantine is directly related to a self-declared Nation supporter and seems completely unwilling to take action against this. Ergo, while Star Fraction as an alliance should be on the list because of the actions of their executor, I am aware of the nature of SF's policies about free captains and other internal rules of leadership and this makes them the only exception to the list's rule, so far. To claim that I am stating that Star Fraction is assisting the Nation is foolish, I have never made such a statement and never will unless SF actually do begin assisting the Nation as an alliance. I see no reason why they should do that, to be honest, and thus remain positive no corporation in SF will be added. _________________________ Reformist holder, loyal to House Kyriel and the Amarrian Empire.
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.06.12 14:32:00 - [46] Originally by: Jesmine Kyriel Originally by: Koronakesh Miss Kyriel's statement that the Fraction assists Nation is somewhat ridiculous, if not outright idiotic. The reason the list separates pilots and corporations is because I'm trying not to brush one pilot's support for the Nation as the entire corporation's support for the Nation. The corporation's on the list are the one's where a blanket statement of support has been declared for all, or one where the CEO is declaring support for the Nation, the nature of corporate leadership usually means the entire corp is then assisting the Nation. The only reason Jade Constantine is on the list and SF IS NOT, is because while SF has shown willingness to and made direct action against Nation supporters, thus excluding them all from the list, Mrs. Constantine is directly related to a self-declared Nation supporter and seems completely unwilling to take action against this. Ergo, while Star Fraction as an alliance should be on the list because of the actions of their executor, I am aware of the nature of SF's policies about free captains and other internal rules of leadership and this makes them the only exception to the list's rule, so far. To claim that I am stating that Star Fraction is assisting the Nation is foolish, I have never made such a statement and never will unless SF actually do begin assisting the Nation as an alliance. I see no reason why they should do that, to be honest, and thus remain positive no corporation in SF will be added. Just goes to show that an Amarrian Nationalist can never be trusted to organize such lists since you have absolutely no appreciation or support of the notion of individual sovereignty. You are as bad as the Nation True Slaves Jesmine Kyriel. Which is much the same as I've said about Amarrian Nationalist slavers throughout this business. No slaver has a right to criticise the slavery of the Nation. As I said your list is a farce and you are deceitful pawn of regressive hierarchy. Chatsubo RP Discussion
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.06.12 14:34:00 - [47] Jade Constantine is not a supporter of Sansha's Nation and the inclusion of her name on your list is abuse of its intent pure and simple. I would suggest you provide concrete evidence or remove her name. If slander and innuendo based on personal relationships is to count as evidence then it reduces your list to the status of a Gallentean gutter trash celebrity periodical with the validity of the list made the equivalent of a running commentary on a holo-queen's latest upper-torso body-modifications. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Jesmine Kyriel Amarr House Kyriel Inc.	Posted - 2010.06.12 15:41:00 - [48] Edited by: Jesmine Kyriel on 12/06/2010 15:44:31 Originally by: Jade Constantine Just goes to show that an Amarrian Nationalist can never be trusted to organize such lists since you have absolutely no appreciation or support of the notion of individual sovereignty. You are as bad as the Nation True Slaves Jesmine Kyriel. Which is much the same as I've said about Amarrian Nationalist slavers throughout this business. No slaver has a right to criticise the slavery of the Nation. As I said your list is a farce and you are deceitful pawn of regressive hierarchy. Your name was added to the list previously after a conversation that informed me of the need. I asked for proof so as not to add people to the list for no good reason. After going through the posts linked to me and considering the claims going back and forth I decided the claim to add your name was resonable, and did so. After your rebuttal of this action I went back to read it again, something that took quite a bit of time trying to make sense of the constant back-and-forth arguing. What became clear however, is that while SF was opposed to the Nation as an alliance, you, as an individual, were not that dedicated. Would it really kill you to at least question Mrs. Neferis about her actions and possibly pursuading her to abandon her foolish support for the Nation? You are in support of a woman who has declared her support for the Nation, and this you do on a personal level. Yuor alliance is in opposition to the Nation, so they have not been added. It's that simple. Anyone else who desire to read the tread where this is gathered, the link is here. EDIT I'm sorry, I completely forgot; Mrs. Constantine, if you would explain the sircumstance in your relationship with Mrs. Neferis, if you believe I've made a great error, I am more than able to listen en re-evaluate my position if needed. I'm not infallible, so making errors is quite possible. If there is anything I should know regarding your position, feel free to enlighten me. _________________________ Reformist holder, loyal to House Kyriel and the Amarrian Empire.
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.06.12 16:05:00 - [49] Originally by: Jesmine Kyriel EDIT I'm sorry, I completely forgot; Mrs. Constantine, if you would explain the sircumstance in your relationship with Mrs. Neferis, if you believe I've made a great error, I am more than able to listen en re-evaluate my position if needed. I'm not infallible, so making errors is quite possible. If there is anything I should know regarding your position, feel free to enlighten me. I don't care what you do or say. As an Amarrian Nationalist you are liar by default. Your list is a farce and I'm quite glad this interchange has given the opportunity to reveal it as such. As a slaver you have no right or moral position to criticise Sansha's Nation since your own people utilize precisely the same ideology and much of the same technology to support their own empire on the misery of enslaved victims. Chatsubo RP Discussion
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.06.12 16:31:00 - [50] So this is what it comes to. 'Sansha supporter' is now the new 'pirate' when it comes to political smearing and meaningless insult. Just as it so often didn't matter if someone really was a 'pirate' or not, so now, in the latest odious moral panic whipped up by dubiously self-designated mob-leaders, it doesn't really matter if someone actually is a 'Sansha supporter' or not. It's just another baseless accusation to throw at political enemies. I find it sad that the almost crazed hue and cry over the Sansha's Nation incursions has come to this but I'm not altogether surprised. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Lillith Blackheart NeuroGEN	Posted - 2010.06.12 16:55:00 - [51] As amusing as this all is, I find it unfathomable that people wonder why it is we have left all of this nonsense behind.
Muck Raker Gallente Gutter Press	Posted - 2010.06.12 17:30:00 - [52] This is interesting! But what was Myxx's secret agenda in naming Capt. Constantine? Was it an attempt to distract attention from Sansha operations? Was it an attempt to make someone else look bad? Was it an attempt to stir things for Myxx's own amusement? Was Myxx paid to do this? And by who? Who knows? Rumours! Wars! Rumours of wars! Wars of rumours!
Myxx Gallente	Posted - 2010.06.12 21:35:00 - [53] Originally by: Muck Raker This is interesting! But what was Myxx's secret agenda in naming Capt. Constantine? Was it an attempt to distract attention from Sansha operations? Was it an attempt to make someone else look bad? Was it an attempt to stir things for Myxx's own amusement? Was Myxx paid to do this? And by who? Who knows? facepalms You aren't even worth the time to reply to. I have bigger issues to deal with than you.
Nikita Alterana Gallente Information Operations	Posted - 2010.06.12 23:14:00 - [54] Originally by: Jade Constantine Edited by: Jade Constantine on 12/06/2010 17:59:28 Originally by: Jesmine Kyriel EDIT I'm sorry, I completely forgot; Mrs. Constantine, if you would explain the sircumstance in your relationship with Mrs. Neferis, if you believe I've made a great error, I am more than able to listen en re-evaluate my position if needed. I'm not infallible, so making errors is quite possible. If there is anything I should know regarding your position, feel free to enlighten me. I don't care what you do or say. As an Amarrian Nationalist you are liar by default. Your list is a farce and I'm quite glad this interchange has given the opportunity to reveal it as such. As a slaver you have no right or moral position to criticise Sansha's Nation since your own people utilize precisely the same ideology and much of the same technology to support their own empire on the misery of enslaved victims. Perhaps it would be just to describe you as a Sansha Supporter because of your support of Slavery in the Amarrian empire? Or would that be ridiculous? Perhaps I should demand that you foreswear the regressive practise of slavery for faux-religious purposes or name you a handmaiden of Sansha. Tsk Tsk Jade, I thought you were better then to simply launch Ad Hominom strawman attacks against people, if anything this simply strengthens the argument against you. come clean If you come clean with your unsavorly, and frankly, hypocritical relations with the Blood Raiders, I'm sure Ms. Kyriel would have no trouble removing you from the list. denounceBut simply attacking her as a person? Thats petty, petty to the point where I'd question whether or not you are fit to lead Star Fraction. How can you claim your ideals mean anything when your wife is a walking violation of them? How hypocritical is that?
C Walken Order of the Chaotic Sewn Together Wrong	Posted - 2010.06.13 05:48:00 - [55] We have no love for the Nation and only briefly offered them support when it coincided with our own agenda. Be that as it may, if anyone wishes to add us to their list of enemies, I won't complain. Hell wills it.
Muck Raker Gallente Gutter Press	Posted - 2010.06.13 09:06:00 - [56] Originally by: Myxx Originally by: Muck Raker But what was Myxx's secret agenda in naming Capt. Constantine? facepalms You aren't even worth the time to reply to. I have bigger issues to deal with than you. Bigger issues? Like, perhaps your secret paymaster being displeased at the results? Rumours! Wars! Rumours of wars! Wars of rumours!
Syn Callibri Minmatar Blacklight Incorporated	Posted - 2010.06.14 18:20:00 - [57] Edited by: Syn Callibri on 14/06/2010 18:22:17 I agree that Jade Constantine should be removed as a Sansha supporter, since there is no concrete evidence to that effect. However...since she is involved (romantically) with a known supporter of nation and her followers, I recommend that she (and her Corp.) be listed as a potential and likely threat to operational security for the duration of the conflict. That way niether she nor her organization are branded as traitors, but are instead considered pilots and an organization "of interest". (The views expressed may not be those of Blacklight Inc.)
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.06.14 18:54:00 - [58] Originally by: Syn Callibri However...since she is involved (romantically) with a known supporter of nation and her followers, I recommend that she (and her Corp.) be listed as a potential and likely threat to operational security for the duration of the conflict. By the same logic I say that since the owner of this thread is involved with the practise of Slavery in the Amarrian empire and a friend of slavers that she should be trusted in no way whatsoever in the fight against slavery whether it be opposing the Amarrian Nationalist slavers or the Sansha's Nation slavers since both entities are vile opponents to personal freedom and the sovereignty of the individual in this star cluster. And I would go on to say it is quite strange to see you willing to hold your nose while jumping into bed with Nationalist Slavers to condemn Nation Slavers. I tell you know from the perspective of those enslaved by either ideology, there isn't much to choose between these fates. Chatsubo RP Discussion
Myxx Gallente	Posted - 2010.06.14 19:01:00 - [59] I would not support jade being removed. Being married to a known and self claimed supporter of the nation is enough, the legal definition of marriage itself is enough to have cause for concern.
Nikita Alterana Gallente Information Operations	Posted - 2010.06.14 19:08:00 - [60] Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: Syn Callibri However...since she is involved (romantically) with a known supporter of nation and her followers, I recommend that she (and her Corp.) be listed as a potential and likely threat to operational security for the duration of the conflict. By the same logic I say that since the owner of this thread is involved with the practise of Slavery in the Amarrian empire and a friend of slavers that she should be trusted in no way whatsoever in the fight against slavery whether it be opposing the Amarrian Nationalist slavers or the Sansha's Nation slavers since both entities are vile opponents to personal freedom and the sovereignty of the individual in this star cluster. And I would go on to say it is quite strange to see you willing to hold your nose while jumping into bed with Nationalist Slavers to condemn Nation Slavers. I tell you know from the perspective of those enslaved by either ideology, there isn't much to choose between these fates. uh no Jade, what you are doing is again, an Ad Hominom strawman attack. rethink Perhaps you should rethink your strategy so that you have a foot to stand on and aren't simply making yourself look foolish.
Anami Casserina	Posted - 2010.06.14 19:12:00 - [61] Oh my, you seem to have forgotten me on your list darling.
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.06.14 19:27:00 - [62] Edited by: Jade Constantine on 14/06/2010 19:30:33 Originally by: Myxx Quite honestly, jade, I actually support the ideals of the fraction, but how you act in public and act infront of people who try to support you makes it very hard to do and argue on your behalf. And who are you? I don't believe we have been introduced. Originally by: Nikita Alterana uh no Jade, what you are doing is again, an Ad Hominom strawman attack. You do realize that argumentum ad hominem is not always fallacious don't you? Particularly when the conduct of the person questioned does absolutely invalidate their argument. Say for example when a person is trying to organize a black list of people for "supporting" Nation slavery while being a supporter of Nationalist slavery. I suggest a little more education before posting next time. Chatsubo RP Discussion
Myxx Gallente	Posted - 2010.06.14 19:40:00 - [63] Originally by: Jade Constantine Edited by: Jade Constantine on 14/06/2010 19:30:33 Originally by: Myxx Quite honestly, jade, I actually support the ideals of the fraction, but how you act in public and act infront of people who try to support you makes it very hard to do and argue on your behalf. And who are you? I don't believe we have been introduced. oh, we havent met, at least formally. I'm just someone who mostly agrees with you, or has for a while, and has observed your alliance for five years now. I can assure you we've never directly delt with one another, or talked for that matter. I have, however, sided with you more than once or twice. To be quite honest with you, how you act, for example like you just did, makes it very, very hard to justify siding with you.
Shirley Serious Amarr The Khanid Sisters of Athra	Posted - 2010.06.14 19:46:00 - [64] Originally by: Jade Constantine You do realize that argumentum ad hominem is not always fallacious don't you? Particularly when the conduct of the person questioned does absolutely invalidate their argument. Say for example when a person is trying to organize a black list of people for "supporting" Nation slavery while being a supporter of Nationalist slavery. Jesmine Kyriel is one of those Reformers that oppose slavery. It's right there when you look up her public profile. Originally by: Jade Constantine I suggest a little more education before posting next time. Education is awesome. Yes. Yes, I am.
Nikita Alterana Gallente Information Operations	Posted - 2010.06.14 19:50:00 - [65] Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: Nikita Alterana uh no Jade, what you are doing is again, an Ad Hominom strawman attack. You do realize that argumentum ad hominem is not always fallacious don't you? Particularly when the conduct of the person questioned does absolutely invalidate their argument. Say for example when a person is trying to organize a black list of people for "supporting" Nation slavery while being a supporter of Nationalist slavery. I suggest a little more education before posting next time. Counterinform Except that that entire premise IS a Strawman argument, Ms. Kyriel is forming this list independent of any political, social, or cultural bias, her life, her culture, religion, and philosophies have absolutely no bearing on what is essentially a neutral document, her adding you to the list is not invalidated by being a pro-slaver because slavery versus anti-slavery has absolutely no bearing on this list, and chances are you could have just as easily been added to the list if it were created by someone else, for instance myself. Quod erat demonstrandum, your attack is nothing by a fallacious strawman attack.
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.06.14 21:31:00 - [66] Originally by: Shirley Serious Jesmine Kyriel is one of those Reformers that oppose slavery. It's right there when you look up her public profile. Then perhaps she shouldn't describe herself as loyal to the largest Empire of slavers in the star cluster. I presume you can see this point or would you prefer I speak more slowly? Originally by: Nikita Alterana Ms. Kyriel is forming this list independent of any political, social, or cultural bias, her life, her culture, religion, and philosophies have absolutely no bearing on what is essentially a neutral document Suffice it to say I disagree and we will agree to differ on this point. I do not believe it is possible for the supporter of a slave-owning political hierarchy to be "neutral" or "unbiased" on the issue of another slave-owning political hierarchy and neither do I trust or value the words spoken by such a supporter. Originally by: Myxx To be quite honest with you, how you act, for example like you just did, makes it very, very hard to justify siding with you. I agree with you. It is very difficult indeed for a mealy-mouthed hypocrite to justify siding with one who favours plain-speaking and has absolutely no time for a supporter of the Amarrian Empire drawing up lists of those to be condemned for association with another slave-owning regime. Chatsubo RP Discussion
Nikita Alterana Gallente Information Operations	Posted - 2010.06.14 21:39:00 - [67] Originally by: Nikita Alterana Ms. Kyriel is forming this list independent of any political, social, or cultural bias, her life, her culture, religion, and philosophies have absolutely no bearing on what is essentially a neutral document Suffice it to say I disagree and we will agree to differ on this point. I do not believe it is possible for the supporter of a slave-owning political hierarchy to be "neutral" or "unbiased" on the issue of another slave-owning political hierarchy and neither do I trust or value the words spoken by such a supporter. Which is precisely why this is a strawman argument. It has nothing to do with slaves, or slave holding, it is merely a list establishing Sansha supporters. Any political affiliation apart beyond Sansha Supporter or Non-Sansha Supporter, is irrelevant in this instance, especially since the person organizing the list added you not because she HATES FREEDOM ARRGH! But because a Gallentean National produced evidence directly linking you to Nation, it wasn't even the idea of Ms. Kyriel. But how about this, since this obviously politically neutral document is not obviously politically neutral enough for you, why doesn't a more politically neutral person reform it, oh that's right, because then your weak unsubstantiated strawman argument wouldn't have a leg to stand on, we can't have that.
Syn Callibri Minmatar Blacklight Incorporated	Posted - 2010.06.14 21:43:00 - [68] Originally by: Jade Constantine By the same logic I say that since the owner of this thread is involved with the practise of Slavery in the Amarrian empire and a friend of slavers that she should be trusted in no way whatsoever in the fight against slavery whether it be opposing the Amarrian Nationalist slavers or the Sansha's Nation slavers since both entities are vile opponents to personal freedom and the sovereignty of the individual in this star cluster. And I would go on to say it is quite strange to see you willing to hold your nose while jumping into bed with Nationalist Slavers to condemn Nation Slavers. I tell you know from the perspective of those enslaved by either ideology, there isn't much to choose between these fates. Lady Constantine, Understand that I am doing what I can to spare you and your corporation the branding of "traitor" and "enemy of the commonwealth", out of respect for your significant other the Thrice Illustrious Revan...and to return the favor of sparing my life the last time she and I spoke face to face. I do what I can without threatening the war effort that I believe wholeheartedly in. As to your view of "hold your nose while jumping into bed with Nationalist Slavers to condemn Nation Slavers", they are the enemy to the enemy of all. What we face now is not warfare over slavery...its about fighting back against exstinction, as long as a slave held by the Amarr draws breath they can fight...if they die fighting then they have died as a Matari should and have gained thier freedom none the less. The time will come when the Amarr will pay for what they have done to the Matari...but not yet. Honorable and glorious death is apparently denied those enslaved to the Nation. Have you learned nothing from your beloved? There is a time when you should just assume quiet resolve and be greatful that someone is willing to speak up on your behalf. (The views expressed may not be those of Blacklight Inc.)
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.06.14 23:16:00 - [69] Edited by: Jade Constantine on 14/06/2010 23:19:01 Originally by: Nikita Alterana It has nothing to do with slaves, or slave holding, it is merely a list establishing Sansha supporters. Any political affiliation apart beyond Sansha Supporter or Non-Sansha Supporter, is irrelevant in this instance, especially since the person organizing the list added you not because she HATES FREEDOM ARRGH! But because a Gallentean National produced evidence directly linking you to Nation, it wasn't even the idea of Ms. Kyriel. 1. It has everything to do with slavery. Since the Nation is an entity founded by a Caldari businessman desiring a more perfect self-owning society to allow a cultural elite to prosper on the backs of slave labour. The Amarrian Empire provided millions of Matari slaves to allow this man to conduct his experiment hoping in turn to profit from the technologies developed. 2. The person adding me to the list is simply and Amarrian Nationalist apologist for a slave-owning empire that exists on the back of the labour of others. 3. There is no evidence linking me to Sansha's Nation because I do not and have not ever supported the aspirations or ideals of Sansha's Nation. I find it as abhorrent as the Amarrian Empire - no more, no less. 4. I am certainly more credible on the reputation of opposing slavery of all kinds than the op in this case who is a supporter of Amarrian Nationalism (and a liar of course). One could almost believe that the op is a servant of Sansha herself since in falsely naming those who are not in this thread she's done more to discredit and mock the war effort against the Nation than she's done to aid it. Originally by: Syn Callibri Have you learned nothing from your beloved? There is a time when you should just assume quiet resolve and be greatful that someone is willing to speak up on your behalf. Laughs out loud When I want the aid of a prancing poodle I'll contact a children's entertainer. You have no right to speak for me and I neither seek or welcome any intercession from you when dealing with the deceitful authors of this farcical thread. If you want to silence a Free Captain you will need to do it in space. Pitiful dog. Chatsubo RP Discussion
Shirley Serious Amarr The Khanid Sisters of Athra	Posted - 2010.06.15 05:32:00 - [70] Does JF still rent those offices in the Amarr stations in Kamela and Choonka ? Isn't that evidence that directly supporting slavery is a separate issue from indirectly supporting the Empire through trade and commerce in their stations? Selling anything on the open market results in taxes going to the SCC, which is part of the global trade regulations that were jointly worked out by the major powers, including the Empire. Yes. Yes, I am.
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.06.15 17:01:00 - [71] Originally by: Shirley Serious Isn't that evidence that directly supporting slavery is a separate issue from indirectly supporting the Empire through trade and commerce in their stations? The op is the leader of a one-person corporation that describes itself as "Loyal to House Kador and the Amarrian Empire." Jesmine Kyriel herself is listed as: Quote: Civilian position: Holder, lord of House Kyriel's legaly owned domain. House motto: ôSalus populi suprema lexö -------------------- "If only the Minmatar realized the troubles they create for the reformist faction in the Empire. We want to help them. We want this empire to change for the better, in appropriate ways, through appropriate methods. I have no problem with the Warriors of the Republic fighting for their nation. I have a major issue with every terrorist claiming to want what is 'best' for the Minmatar. Your foolishness and bloodthirst only serves to underline the cause of the radicals. It undermines our arguments, and fuels the fires of war. I want to live in peace. Do you?" - Kyriel Imperial Holder An Imperial Holder is called a Holder for a reason. She claims ownership of tens of thousands of sentient lives who toil without hope of release on her farms and in her mines. And we are asked to trust this person with a barely credible space presence who boasts of planetside holdings in the Imperial Hierarchy to honestly host a list condemning those who have aided and supported the cluster's second largest Slave holding entity? Its a little like drafting a toothless fox to guard a rivals chicken coop. Ridiculous and farcical in every way. Chatsubo RP Discussion
Revan Neferis Amarr The Archaeus of Blood The Final Stand.	Posted - 2010.06.15 22:32:00 - [72] Ah it's a shame that I'm so lacking interest on intergalactic summit at the moment due to vacation and important dealings planetside. List of the damned does sound at least a subject exotic enough and could be entertaining. But as time will probably take me elsewhere again , I'll just leave a hello to Syn Callibri, good to know that you're well and recovering ( recovered? ) from your memory loss. And to my beloved, this whole damned thing has a touch of spice to it. We all know that to be truly a damned one needs to be constantly burning... Now come to our room and let's make sure to give practical meaning to my new delicious status. * winks Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
Marrano Cardosa Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive	Posted - 2010.06.15 23:54:00 - [73] Originally by: Samantha Vosh Every story has two sides, just as this war. Both sides tell a part of it which the other doesn't know. You see the taking of people as abductions. They see it as uplifting. As every action has a reason i've tasked myself to discover them. That includes the part of their side. Their truth. Twilight guide, Samantha Vosh Again, the words out of your own mouth condemn you.
Marrano Cardosa Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive	Posted - 2010.06.16 00:02:00 - [74] Originally by: Jade Constantine Edited by: Jade Constantine on 14/06/2010 19:30:33 Originally by: Myxx Quite honestly, jade, I actually support the ideals of the fraction, but how you act in public and act infront of people who try to support you makes it very hard to do and argue on your behalf. And who are you? I don't believe we have been introduced. Originally by: Nikita Alterana uh no Jade, what you are doing is again, an Ad Hominom strawman attack. You do realize that argumentum ad hominem is not always fallacious don't you? Particularly when the conduct of the person questioned does absolutely invalidate their argument. Say for example when a person is trying to organize a black list of people for "supporting" Nation slavery while being a supporter of Nationalist slavery. I suggest a little more education before posting next time. Wrong again Jade. Argumentum ad hominem is a logical fallacy and thus is ALWAYS fallacious. An argument stands or falls on its own, its validity does NOT depend on the character of the person making the argument. And you should apply your suggestion personally as well.
Jesmine Kyriel Amarr House Kyriel Inc.	Posted - 2010.06.25 01:04:00 - [75] The list has been updated. I have recently been informed that a pilot by the name of Vikarion and an associate of his, Ichon, is requested on this list. The reason for this appears to be Vikarion's previous association with the Nation and his formation of ROZEN, White Rose Society, a supposed pro-Nation entity of it's time. The accuser had this to say, along with a selection of quotes that underline the argument against Mr. Vikarion. "Vikarion is a fanatical Statist who was the former CEO of the White Rose Society, a pro-Sansha corporation aiding and abetting Sansha interests against the Amarr Empire. He is currently masquerading as a "reformed" Sansha in the hopes of encouraging an alliance between the Nation and the State against the Federation." I do not know the man and do not know if this claim is accurate or not. If you have arguments and proof for or against adding this man to this list, inform me here. Another issue is the question of if Mrs. Constantine deserve a spot on this list or not. This has been argued before, and I will list the reasons for the uncertainty here. First of all, Mrs. Constantine is the Executor of Star Fraction and the CEO of Jericho Fraction, the Executor corporation, as far as I'm aware. Star Fraction has declared it's unmistakable intent to oppose the Nation and their assault on the cluster and have indeed declared war on Nation supporters. Ergo, in light of these actions, their alliance executor does not deserve a spot on this list. However, on the other hand, Mrs. Constantine is involved in a relationship with a woman by the name of Revan Neferis. Mrs. Neferis is a self-confessed supporter of the Nation and is reputed to be absurdly rich, putting her in a good position to disrupt and hinder resistance to the Nation. If my memory serves, it will appear that Star Fraction and Mrs. Constantine will not be taking action against Mrs. Neferis, despite the fact apprehending her or even just convincing her that her efforts are wrong, should prove to be little trouble to Star Fraction's Executor. The issue here lies in the relationship between two people. I respect people's right to privacy so can not ask any personal details on this matter. And yet this relationship complicates matters entirely. I am not sure if either Constantine or Neferis is an influence on each other or not, or if their political actions and opinions have any place whatsoever in their relations. What this means is that I am not entirely sure if Mrs. Constantine can be considered to be either against Sansha's Nation or not, ergo the safest reaction is to assume she is until proof of the opposite is delivered. I am once again asking for this proof. If there is anything, anything at all you feel you can share on this matter so I may make a final decision, I would be quite happy to hear it. It is my intent to maintain an accurate list of those who should be opposed for good reason, not a list of people innocent of the charge. It would be quite troublesome to maintain Jade Constantine's name on it when I can not be entirely sure her place on it is deserved.
Ghost Hunter True Slave Foundations	Posted - 2010.06.25 01:59:00 - [76] Originally by: Jesmine Kyriel The list has been updated. I have recently been informed that a pilot by the name of Vikarion and an associate of his, Ichon, is requested on this list. The reason for this appears to be Vikarion's previous association with the Nation and his formation of ROZEN, White Rose Society, a supposed pro-Nation entity of it's time. The accuser had this to say, along with a selection of quotes that underline the argument against Mr. Vikarion. "Vikarion is a fanatical Statist who was the former CEO of the White Rose Society, a pro-Sansha corporation aiding and abetting Sansha interests against the Amarr Empire. He is currently masquerading as a "reformed" Sansha in the hopes of encouraging an alliance between the Nation and the State against the Federation." I do not know the man and do not know if this claim is accurate or not. If you have arguments and proof for or against adding this man to this list, inform me here. Mr. Vikarion has renounced his loyalties in favor of a darker path to take. In addition, he has attempted to directly interfere with Nation efforts on at least two separate occasions if my memory is correct. He is no ally to us. To suggest he is attempting to create an alliance against any entity with Nation is political propaganda.
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.06.25 02:15:00 - [77] Edited by: Jade Constantine on 25/06/2010 02:50:51 Originally by: Jesmine Kyriel What this means is that I am not entirely sure if Mrs. Constantine can be considered to be either against Sansha's Nation or not, ergo the safest reaction is to assume she is until proof of the opposite is delivered. I think I will assume you are a pointless idiot until proof of the opposite is delivered.
Aria Jenneth Caldari Kumiho's Smile	Posted - 2010.06.25 02:34:00 - [78] Edited by: Aria Jenneth on 25/06/2010 02:35:15 Originally by: Ghost Hunter Originally by: Jesmine Kyriel The list has been updated. I have recently been informed that a pilot by the name of Vikarion and an associate of his, Ichon, is requested on this list. The reason for this appears to be Vikarion's previous association with the Nation and his formation of ROZEN, White Rose Society, a supposed pro-Nation entity of it's time. The accuser had this to say, along with a selection of quotes that underline the argument against Mr. Vikarion. "Vikarion is a fanatical Statist who was the former CEO of the White Rose Society, a pro-Sansha corporation aiding and abetting Sansha interests against the Amarr Empire. He is currently masquerading as a "reformed" Sansha in the hopes of encouraging an alliance between the Nation and the State against the Federation." I do not know the man and do not know if this claim is accurate or not. If you have arguments and proof for or against adding this man to this list, inform me here. Mr. Vikarion has renounced his loyalties in favor of a darker path to take. In addition, he has attempted to directly interfere with Nation efforts on at least two separate occasions if my memory is correct. He is no ally to us. To suggest he is attempting to create an alliance against any entity with Nation is political propaganda. Ghost Hunter, despite his allegiance, has the right of it, and I believe I have a good notion just who the accuser is. I suspect many of us do. It is true that Vikarion considers the Federation a greater threat to the State than the Nation is; in this, I fear he is likely mistaken, but he is far from alone in this opinion. In every empire, there are those who see in the more immediate enemy the greater threat. I will vouch for Vikarion.
jdok Reaper Industries Asset Liberation Front.	Posted - 2010.06.25 21:36:00 - [79] Edited by: jdok on 25/06/2010 21:37:31 Hi jade, we are next to each other on the list! yay! Er, I mean, it must be a conspiracy! Someone is tampering with the alphabet in order to frame us! nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Revan Neferis The Archaeus of Blood The Final Stand.	Posted - 2010.06.25 22:31:00 - [80] Originally by: Jesmine Kyriel Mrs. Neferis is a self-confessed supporter of the Nation and is reputed to be absurdly rich, putting her in a good position to disrupt and hinder resistance to the Nation. If my memory serves, it will appear that Star Fraction and Mrs. Constantine will not be taking action against Mrs. Neferis, despite the fact apprehending her or even just convincing her that her efforts are wrong, should prove to be little trouble to Star Fraction's Executor. Little one, you certainly know nothing of who you speak about. My lover has given you the only answer that I'd give after your deliberations: Originally by: Jade Constantine I think I will assume you are a pointless idiot until proof of the opposite is delivered. Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik Totally pagan, totally beautiful, totally worshipful. This is life
Jesmine Kyriel Amarr House Kyriel Inc.	Posted - 2010.06.27 16:59:00 - [81] REMINDER: Anyone who wish to make use of this list is free to do so, one can always copy-paste it into one's own software documents for review while in space. Also, if there are anyone else you feel should be on the list or who you feel should be removed from it, please forward name and reasons to me here, or by mail, as well as any evidence you might have to back up your argument. _________________________ Reformist holder, loyal to House Kyriel and the Amarrian Empire.
Gal Atan True Citizen	Posted - 2010.06.27 17:04:00 - [82] The list continues to grow...this i like to see
Alica Wildfire Minmatar Federal Investigations Agency	Posted - 2010.06.27 17:51:00 - [83] Edited by: Alica Wildfire on 27/06/2010 17:53:40 With Jade Constantine on this list, the whole list becomes pointless and nothing but a witchhunt, typical Amarrian injustice and arbitrariness. Someone who is pledging for the cause of freedom is definitly not supporting the cause of someone who's intention is to destroy the free will and is making everybody a mindless drone that lands on his laboratory bench. I was always fighting for freedom and am fighting the Sanchas where they show up. But this is ridiculous. Take that name from the list or the whole thing is becoming a joke and nothing is gained on strength to fight the enemy. This is just a bad joke, this is all I say. Amarrians. And the sorry excuse for this is "she knows someone well that might be a..." Sorry. On a Matari court you would just get kicked out by the judge, with the whole room laughing. This is not justice, this is not help for the fight against the nation. This is the opposite. Put your own name on the list by the way, Kyriel. You are helping the enemy if you act like this. This is sad for someone fighting the Nation. You have to be better than this. Try to be a bit less Amarrian, 'kay? -- FREEDOM, PUNK & AUTOCANNONS
Otocinclus Minmatar Project Nemesis	Posted - 2010.06.28 05:15:00 - [84] I gladly support Master and Nation. Soon, this will be a list of the victorious and enlightened
Jihn Anolar Minmatar NQX Innovations Circle-Of-Two	Posted - 2010.06.28 07:57:00 - [85] You may add Jihn Anolar to this list. I will fight for Nation so long as the ISK flow does not stop - or failing that, I will fight for free if Amarrians are the target. Come and get me, my autocannons will be my diplomatic response.
GreetingsPeppi	Posted - 2010.06.28 09:50:00 - [86] Edited by: GreetingsPeppi on 28/06/2010 09:52:46 I, too, stand with the Nation. Feel free to add me to this pathetic list of "doomed"...
Alica Wildfire Minmatar Federal Investigations Agency	Posted - 2010.06.28 11:02:00 - [87] Yeah. And if you are on it put Louella Dougans, the space nun on it too. Not that she really belongs there, but that's even a bigger joke than Jade Constantine. If people find her on that list, you sure get better laughter than putting Jade on it. And this list has become nothing but a joke by this. Really. This whole thing is moot. I'm really getting angry by that. Stop it. -- FREEDOM, PUNK & AUTOCANNONS
Revan Neferis The Archaeus of Blood The Final Stand.	Posted - 2010.06.28 11:10:00 - [88] Originally by: Alica Wildfire Yeah. And if you are on it put Louella Dougans, the space nun on it too. Not that she really belongs there, but that's even a bigger joke than Jade Constantine. If people find her on that list, you sure get better laughter than putting Jade on it. And this list has become nothing but a joke by this. Really. This whole thing is moot. I'm really getting angry by that. Stop it. Jade and I have stated our words on the matter, I start to find your supposed silly attempt of defence more annoying than the pathetic list itself coming from a nobody. Why don't you move on and take care of your own affairs, would bode you well. Neither Jade or I really find it amusing this kind of boot-licking from capsuleers all around. When we have something to say we do it ourselves and it was said it here. Move on minmatar before you find more enemies than you would like to have at this point. Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik Totally pagan, totally beautiful, totally worshipful. This is life
Alica Wildfire Minmatar Federal Investigations Agency	Posted - 2010.06.28 11:25:00 - [89] Edited by: Alica Wildfire on 28/06/2010 11:34:08 Originally by: Revan Neferis Move on minmatar before you find more enemies than you would like to have at this point. I'm not defending you. You are a damn slaver and I will always fight your kind. I do not know you enough that I can say I hate you but damn me, I'm triggerhappy enough to shoot you on sight anyway, Nefris. And I'm also not defending Jade. I'm defending freedom and the right to love anyone you like. That the small loyality overwrites the bigger one. So care about your own little stuff about blood rituals or whatever games you play and don't get in my line of fire when I'm fighting for my cause. I'm not happy where this puts me here, but I fight where fate puts me. Truth is that Jade does not belong on this list. And with her, I assume, many more do not but I don't know. I definitly didn't ASK YOU FOR HELP OR JOVIAL ADVICE, slaver*****! So get out of my line of fire. Please. With a cherry on top. Or you get more blood by this than you can suck. I'm talking to my own kind here, not to you. But okay. I'll stop it here. This is ridiculous. -- FREEDOM, PUNK & AUTOCANNONS
Revan Neferis The Archaeus of Blood The Final Stand.	Posted - 2010.06.28 11:42:00 - [90] Originally by: Alica Wildfire I'm not defending you. You're not that stupid to assume that my words were about you defending me are you little one? Originally by: Alica Wildfire But okay. I'll stop it here. This is ridiculous. Good that you have a little sense at least where brain cells lacks. Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik Totally pagan, totally beautiful, totally worshipful. This is life
Weynard Caldari Evoke. Ev0ke	Posted - 2010.06.28 12:40:00 - [91] Originally by: Revan Neferis coming from a nobody. It is exactly that kind of arrogance the Friends of the Nation are fighting. You are, like so many others, blinded by todays' way of life... You may think your buddies in the coalition are going to praise you for you engagement in "this matter" but your ignorance is why this list ever had that small, insignificant, negligible reason of being created, even though there was no point in it from the start.
Revan Neferis The Archaeus of Blood The Final Stand.	Posted - 2010.06.28 12:45:00 - [92] Originally by: Weynard You may think your buddies in the coalition are going to praise you for you engagement in "this matter" ... Your remark is so ignorant that it's Pointless to me to even take a second to construct you a meaningful reply. Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik Totally pagan, totally beautiful, totally worshipful. This is life
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.06.28 12:49:00 - [93] Originally by: Alicia Wildfire With Jade Constantine on this list, the whole list becomes pointless and nothing but a witchhunt, typical Amarrian injustice and arbitrariness. Someone who is pledging for the cause of freedom is definitly not supporting the cause of someone who's intention is to destroy the free will and is making everybody a mindless drone that lands on his laboratory bench. A slaver is a slaver. If he is old as an Amarr or new as a Sansha. And the fate of a slave is the same as a slave to an Amarrian holder or a True Slave to a Sansha master. When I was at Auga to fight against them I first shot the Sanshas and after all Sanshas were down, I shot the Amarr Milita that was still on the field. But I have priorities. The Sansha threat is one that is easier to take down, so I fight it first. Soft targets. I was always fighting for freedom and am fighting the Sanchas where they show up. But this is ridiculous. Take that name from the list or the whole thing is becoming a joke and nothing is gained on strength to fight the enemy. You might consider Jade an enemy of yours if you like and fight her, but don't put her together with this bunch. This is just a bad joke, this is all I say. Amarrians. And the sorry excuse for this is "she knows someone well that might be a..." Sorry. On a Matari court you would just get kicked out by the judge, with the whole room laughing. This is not justice, this is not help for the fight against the nation. This is the opposite. Put your own name on the list by the way, Kyriel. You are helping the enemy if you act like this. This is sad for someone fighting the Nation. You have to be better than this. Try to be a bit less Amarrian, 'kay? Try to keep your head clean, don't stick your nose so much into scriptures to find self-righteousness, better check reality for a minute. Ah yes. I have spoken for one on the list. Now my name is on it too? That would be so Amarrian... I value your words, Alicia, and I am sure your view of the matter is perfectly accurate. It is my opinion that my friend and comrade Jade Constantine will also value your words, as she, and I, have long valued your independent and honest view on public affairs in New Eden. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Weynard Caldari Evoke. Ev0ke	Posted - 2010.06.28 12:51:00 - [94] So you think I didn't give your point of view enough thought? I have, to my regret, fought the Nation before, I have been a member of not only the ordinary communication channels and I was... similar to you. But if you would just for a second think about the ideals of other people without evaluating things from your side you would know what to fight for.
Revan Neferis The Archaeus of Blood The Final Stand.	Posted - 2010.06.28 12:54:00 - [95] Originally by: Weynard But if you would just for a second think about the ideals of other people without evaluating things from your side you would know what to fight for. Ideals of other people? Why should I even care? Give me an interesting reason to even start debating this subject. Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik Totally pagan, totally beautiful, totally worshipful. This is life
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.06.28 12:57:00 - [96] Originally by: Alica Wildfire With Jade Constantine on this list, the whole list becomes pointless and nothing but a witchhunt, typical Amarrian injustice and arbitrariness. Someone who is pledging for the cause of freedom is definitly not supporting the cause of someone who's intention is to destroy the free will and is making everybody a mindless drone that lands on his laboratory bench. A slaver is a slaver. If he is old as an Amarr or new as a Sansha. And the fate of a slave is the same as a slave to an Amarrian holder or a True Slave to a Sansha master. When I was at Auga to fight against them I first shot the Sanshas and after all Sanshas were down, I shot the Amarr Milita that was still on the field. But I have priorities. The Sansha threat is one that is easier to take down, so I fight it first. Soft targets. I was always fighting for freedom and am fighting the Sanchas where they show up. But this is ridiculous. Take that name from the list or the whole thing is becoming a joke and nothing is gained on strength to fight the enemy. You might consider Jade an enemy of yours if you like and fight her, but don't put her together with this bunch. This is just a bad joke, this is all I say. Amarrians. And the sorry excuse for this is "she knows someone well that might be a..." Sorry. On a Matari court you would just get kicked out by the judge, with the whole room laughing. This is not justice, this is not help for the fight against the nation. This is the opposite. Put your own name on the list by the way, Kyriel. You are helping the enemy if you act like this. This is sad for someone fighting the Nation. You have to be better than this. Try to be a bit less Amarrian, 'kay? Try to keep your head clean, don't stick your nose so much into scriptures to find self-righteousness, better check reality for a minute. Ah yes. I have spoken for one on the list. Now my name is on it too? That would be so Amarrian... Thank you Alicia, you mirror my thoughts. But I have my doubts about the identity of Kyriel in any case. I think its quite likely she is simply a propaganda identity constructed by other capsuleers for the purpose of spreading distrust and disinformation. In any case we certainly agree - the list of the "damned" is a farce. Chatsubo RP Discussion
Weynard Caldari Evoke. Ev0ke	Posted - 2010.06.28 12:59:00 - [97] I might agree that this was another unlucky expression from my side, but did you consider what Master is speaking of? Maybe you want to speak with me on private channels?
Revan Neferis The Archaeus of Blood The Final Stand.	Posted - 2010.06.28 13:06:00 - [98] Originally by: Weynard I might agree that this was another unlucky expression from my side, but did you consider what Master is speaking of? Maybe you want to speak with me on private channels? Very well. Lets talk in private and I'll hear what you have to say. Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik Totally pagan, totally beautiful, totally worshipful. This is life
Weynard Caldari Evoke. Ev0ke	Posted - 2010.06.28 13:21:00 - [99] Issue resolved. I actually misunderstood the phrase about the nobody. ((However, that does not mean the stuff I said couldn't be applied elsewhere))
Revan Neferis The Archaeus of Blood The Final Stand.	Posted - 2010.06.28 13:27:00 - [100] Originally by: Weynard Issue resolved. I actually misunderstood the phrase about the nobody. * smiles and shakes her head slightly amused * A shame that the issue was solved in such simple and civilized way. It's always more entertaining when wars and blood and scandals are in between but ah well, the matter was simple enough. Fly safe, and till we next meet. Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik Totally pagan, totally beautiful, totally worshipful. This is life
Norrin Ellis Heritage Foundation	Posted - 2010.06.28 14:47:00 - [101] If it hasn't already been done, I'd like to nominate any pilot participating in the NeuroGEN Inventors Summit on the grounds of aiding and abetting Nation loyalists in the development of information security systems that may later be employed to safeguard against coalition information warfare attempts.
Revan Neferis The Archaeus of Blood The Final Stand.	Posted - 2010.06.28 15:21:00 - [102] Originally by: Alica Wildfire I'm not happy where this puts me here, but I fight where fate puts me. So mote it be. Lets see if you'll enjoy where fate will put you and yours next. Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik Totally pagan, totally beautiful, totally worshipful. This is life
Syn Callibri Minmatar Blacklight Incorporated	Posted - 2010.06.28 16:09:00 - [103] Originally by: Jade Constantine Laughs out loud When I want the aid of a prancing poodle I'll contact a children's entertainer. You have no right to speak for me and I neither seek or welcome any intercession from you when dealing with the deceitful authors of this farcical thread. If you want to silence a Free Captain you will need to do it in space. Pitiful dog. chuckles Obviously you haven't learned anything from the Thrice Illustrious Revan..."free captain". Consider this...the only "poodle" I see dancing is you, please rant on. Would you be so kind as to thank the Lady Revan for me? I learned a great deal about composure and grace from our meeting. Try listening intead of talking...its amazing what you can learn. (The views expressed may not be those of Blacklight Inc.)
Revan Neferis The Archaeus of Blood The Final Stand.	Posted - 2010.06.28 17:22:00 - [104] Originally by: Syn Callibri chuckles Obviously you haven't learned anything from the Thrice Illustrious Revan..."free captain". Consider this...the only "poodle" I see dancing is you, please rant on. Would you be so kind as to thank the Lady Revan for me? I learned a great deal about composure and grace from our meeting. Try listening intead of talking...its amazing what you can learn. Although I can appreciate the feelings towards my person ( which is mutual ) I find it uncomfortable to see you entering meaningless debates and exchanging offences with my lover. I'm sure that you'll consider my words and cease your interactions with her in such ways. On a side subject, did you recover your memory? My regards Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik Totally pagan, totally beautiful, totally worshipful. This is life
Syn Callibri Minmatar Blacklight Incorporated	Posted - 2010.06.28 17:49:00 - [105] Edited by: Syn Callibri on 28/06/2010 18:07:39 Originally by: Revan Neferis Although I can appreciate the feelings towards my person ( which is mutual ) I find it uncomfortable to see you entering meaningless debates and exchanging offences with my lover. I'm sure that you'll consider my words and cease your interactions with her in such ways. On a side subject, did you recover your memory? My regards Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik I will indeed consider your words and apologize for any discomfort I may have caused. As to your question about my memory, I have regained only fragments of my former self...perhaps this is for the best. From what I have gathered about my "former self", I can only summarize it in a single word...pathetic. So, I have started a new path...far removed from that soft, pampered, weak, pleasure slave that was rescued from her master's grasp, only masqerading as a capsuleer. A path that leads toward what I was meant to be, a warrior...strong, enduring, without fear. I must, of course thank you. The fire that I saw in your eyes, the fierce sense of self that you possess, your bearing of power inspired me to let my former life die...to allow my true self to be reforged in the flames of battle, quenched in the blood of my enemies, and tempered by the cold darkness of the void. "...I can appreciate the feelings towards my person ( which is mutual )"...if that was a compliment I am deeply humbled, Thrice Illustrious Dread Mistress. With Respect, Syn Callibri Through my blood I am Matari. Through your blood I am victorious
Revan Neferis The Archaeus of Blood The Final Stand.	Posted - 2010.06.28 18:10:00 - [106] Originally by: Syn Callibri I will indeed consider your words and apologize for any discomfort I may have caused. Appreciated lady. Originally by: Syn Callibri As to your question about my memory, I have regained only fragments of my former self...perhaps this is for the best. From what I have gathered about my "former self", I can only summarize it in a single word...pathetic. So, I have started a new path...far removed from that soft, pampered, weak, pleasure slave that was rescued from her master's grasp, only masqerading as a capsuleer. A path that leads toward what I was meant to be, a warrior...strong, enduring, without fear. I must, of course thank you. The fire that I saw in your eyes, the fierce sense of self that you possess, your bearing of power inspired me to let my former life die...to allow my true self to be reforged in the flames of battle, quenched in the blood of my enemies, and tempered by the cold darkness of the void. With Respect, Syn Callibri Tell you what, I see a brilliant future there. I recognise power of will in your words and as it's my custom to acknowledge such power with true representation and actions, I'll gift you a little token as symbol of such words. Contact me as soon as you can to receive a Tempest Fleet Issue directly from my hangars and blessed by one of my rituals. I'll name this ship "Phoenix" as a way to represent your rise to enlightenment. May it serve you well as a source of inspiration to your future endeavours. Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik Totally pagan, totally beautiful, totally worshipful. This is life
Syn Callibri Minmatar Blacklight Incorporated	Posted - 2010.06.28 18:29:00 - [107] Originally by: Revan Neferis Originally by: Syn Callibri I will indeed consider your words and apologize for any discomfort I may have caused. Appreciated lady. Originally by: Syn Callibri As to your question about my memory, I have regained only fragments of my former self...perhaps this is for the best. From what I have gathered about my "former self", I can only summarize it in a single word...pathetic. So, I have started a new path...far removed from that soft, pampered, weak, pleasure slave that was rescued from her master's grasp, only masqerading as a capsuleer. A path that leads toward what I was meant to be, a warrior...strong, enduring, without fear. I must, of course thank you. The fire that I saw in your eyes, the fierce sense of self that you possess, your bearing of power inspired me to let my former life die...to allow my true self to be reforged in the flames of battle, quenched in the blood of my enemies, and tempered by the cold darkness of the void. With Respect, Syn Callibri Tell you what, I see a brilliant future there. I recognise power of will in your words and as it's my custom to acknowledge such power with true representation and actions, I'll gift you a little token as symbol of such words. Contact me as soon as you can to receive a Tempest Fleet Issue directly from my hangars and blessed by one of my rituals. I'll name this ship "Phoenix" as a way to represent your rise to enlightenment. May it serve you well as a source of inspiration to your future endeavours. Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik Once again you've humbled me Dread Lady. I will contact you in convo or by EvE-mail a.s.a.p. lowers to one knee ...Xal l'vlos d'ussta ogglinnar morfeth uns'aa khurzon. <trans: May the blood of my enemies make me worthy.> Through my blood I am Matari. Through your blood I am victorious
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.06.28 18:58:00 - [108] Originally by: Syn Callibri chuckles Obviously you haven't learned anything from the Thrice Illustrious Revan..."free captain". What I learn, from whom, under which circumstances are matters of precisely no concern of yours little poodle. That you think to enclose the words Free Captain with ironic quotes simply convinces me you have little knowledge of the words or implications of the phrase. If you wish to avoid future inconvenience and embarrassment in this medium then I invite you never to address me again because I find it hard to imagine what you might say that could interest me in the slightest. Chatsubo RP Discussion
Syn Callibri Minmatar Blacklight Incorporated	Posted - 2010.06.28 19:13:00 - [109] Originally by: Jade Constantine What I learn, from whom, under which circumstances are matters of precisely no concern of yours little poodle. That you think to enclose the words Free Captain with ironic quotes simply convinces me you have little knowledge of the words or implications of the phrase. If you wish to avoid future inconvenience and embarrassment in this medium then I invite you never to address me again because I find it hard to imagine what you might say that could interest me in the slightest. grins wickedly I have expressed my regrets and apologies to your beloved, the Thrice Illustrious Dread Sovreign for any discomfort I have raised for either of you. I ask you to let that suffice Lady Constantine... bows her head ...Xal l'vlos balbau dos dro. <May the blood grant you life.> "Er'griff areion l'vlos zhah gaer dro."
Revan Neferis The Archaeus of Blood The Final Stand.	Posted - 2010.06.28 19:25:00 - [110] Originally by: Syn Callibri I have expressed my regrets and apologies to your beloved, the Thrice Illustrious Dread Sovreign for any discomfort I have raised for either of you. Obviously it suffices. It seems like my lover have missed the posts above. Ignore her for this matter is solved. Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik Totally pagan, totally beautiful, totally worshipful. This is life
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.06.28 19:30:00 - [111] Originally by: Syn Callibri grins wickedly I have expressed my regrets and apologies to your beloved, the Thrice Illustrious Dread Sovreign for any discomfort I have raised for either of you. I ask you to let that suffice Lady Constantine... You may express your regrets and apologies to whom you please. When you address me by name and cast disrespect towards my companions and comrades-at-arms you will receive a suitable chiding at my lips. I recognize you have an overtly submissive attitude of bootlicking sycophancy towards my lover that she finds amusing. I do not. I find your interjections on this thread distasteful at best. Still, enjoy your spaceship. I hope it serves you well. Chatsubo RP Discussion
Revan Neferis The Archaeus of Blood The Final Stand.	Posted - 2010.06.28 19:35:00 - [112] Make sure to collect your gift within the next 2 days. Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik Totally pagan, totally beautiful, totally worshipful. This is life
Syn Callibri Minmatar Blacklight Incorporated	Posted - 2010.06.28 19:35:00 - [113] Edited by: Syn Callibri on 28/06/2010 19:37:22 Originally by: Revan Neferis Originally by: Syn Callibri I have expressed my regrets and apologies to your beloved, the Thrice Illustrious Dread Sovreign for any discomfort I have raised for either of you. Obviously it suffices. It seems like my lover have missed the posts above. Ignore her for this matter is solved. Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik As you wish it Dread One...I will take reciept of your gift tonight. Syn Callibri "Nindyn nindel kyorl nind ratha, thalra streea dal l'alust."
Revan Neferis The Archaeus of Blood The Final Stand.	Posted - 2010.06.28 19:40:00 - [114] Originally by: Jade Constantine I find your interjections on this thread distasteful at best. There are other interjections here much more distasteful I can assure you that. Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik Totally pagan, totally beautiful, totally worshipful. This is life
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.06.28 19:44:00 - [115] Originally by: Revan Neferis Originally by: Jade Constantine I find your interjections on this thread distasteful at best. There are other interjections here much more distasteful I can assure you that. Such matters are an issue for personal taste obviously. Chatsubo RP Discussion
Revan Neferis The Archaeus of Blood The Final Stand.	Posted - 2010.06.28 20:06:00 - [116] Originally by: Jade Constantine Such matters are an issue for personal taste obviously. Taste has little to do with it. Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik Totally pagan, totally beautiful, totally worshipful. This is life
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.06.28 20:14:00 - [117] Originally by: Revan Neferis Originally by: Jade Constantine Such matters are an issue for personal taste obviously. Taste has little to do with it. On that we can agree. Chatsubo RP Discussion
Jesmine Kyriel Amarr House Kyriel Inc.	Posted - 2010.06.30 23:11:00 - [118] The list has been updated and improved. In spite of an out-right refusal to co-operate or even try for a diplomatic solution I am looking deeper into whatever information I can find regarding Mrs. Constantine's relationship with Mrs. Neferis and how this possibly affects her position as Executor of Star Fraction and an opponent of the Nation. I am not interested in any kind of personal detail in the slightest, simply because I do not care about Mrs. Constantine personally or who she may or may not chose to spend her private time with. As such, any and all claims that I am merely taking a political stab towards Star Fraction or anyone, or insults towards the Empire, the Imperial system of government, my position as holder, the integrity of my honor or my political and/or personal opinion on slavery will be ignored, along with any attempt at insult towards my faith or the nature of my own person in regard to Mrs. Constantine, Mrs. Neferis or the Star Fraction alliance. None of these things are subjects for debate here and I am not interested in starting an arguments about the messenger when in fact, the message is what is important. If anyone desire to heap further insult or accusation on the Empire or my name feel free to mail me in private, or if you must, start a new line of discussion. Elsewhere. For the last time, any and all information and evidence regarding Mrs. Constantine's place on this list and why she should remain on/be removed from it, is appreciated. While pilot Myxx claimed it would be wise to add Mrs. Constantine to this list, I have had my personal doubt about the wisdom in this move, based in part on the elusive nature of any sort of damning evidence for or against this move, and partially due the nature of the Star Fraction alliance's system of management and the nature of Mrs. Constantine's position in it as opposed to her personal relations and it's influence on Star Fraction policies, if any. I will finish this investigation in a day or two, and decide if Mrs. Constantine's name should be removed or no after that time. That decision will be final unless irrefutable evidence for direct Nation support should ever surface at a later time. I will allow myself to doubt that, at this point. Finally, anyone close to her, kindly get in touch with pilot Alterana and see to it that she receive whatever help she needs to overcome her recent... issues. Her actions are starting to worry me and frankly, I worry for her sanity and fear she might well become a danger to us all soon enough. _________________________ Reformist holder, loyal to House Kyriel and the Amarrian Empire.
Nola Doyle NeuroGEN	Posted - 2010.07.02 02:36:00 - [119] You should include all of the Amarr Empire and Khanid Kingdom on your list as known collaborators. The slavers I have met with have been rather appreciative of the ISK and business our corporation was able to provide for them in exchange for their product.
Jesmine Kyriel Amarr House Kyriel Inc.	Posted - 2010.07.02 23:46:00 - [120] I have spent most of my available time these last two days examining any and all alleged 'proof' of why Mrs. Constantine's deserves to be placed on a list of Sansha supporters. While trying to understand the woman's position in her Alliance and her relationship with Mrs. Neferis and the position of said Sani Sabik heretic and how these factors possibly influence Mrs. Constantine's decision-making, has been hard, I have arrived at a conclusion. There is currently no hard evidence, that are available to me, that positively confirms that Mrs. Constantine is supporting the Nation through her private relationship, in any shape or form. As such her name has been removed from this list at this time. The list has also been updated as a few more pilots have sworn loyalty to and support for the Nation. Their names have been added. _________________________ Reformist holder, loyal to House Kyriel and the Amarrian Empire.
Mebrithiel Ju'wien Cruoris Seraphim Exalted.	Posted - 2010.07.03 01:04:00 - [121] Oh please... (Blog link in Sig)
James Vayne	Posted - 2010.07.03 05:00:00 - [122] Originally by: Jesmine Kyriel I have spent most of my available time these last two days examining any and all alleged 'proof' of why Mrs. Constantine's deserves to be placed on a list of Sansha supporters. While trying to understand the woman's position in her Alliance and her relationship with Mrs. Neferis and the position of said Sani Sabik heretic and how these factors possibly influence Mrs. Constantine's decision-making, has been hard, I have arrived at a conclusion. There is currently no hard evidence, that are available to me, that positively confirms that Mrs. Constantine is supporting the Nation through her private relationship, in any shape or form. As such her name has been removed from this list at this time. The list has also been updated as a few more pilots have sworn loyalty to and support for the Nation. Their names have been added. Given that the people have publicly announced their loyalties for all to see, your list is almost as pointless as your existence.
Revan Neferis The Archaeus of Blood The Final Stand.	Posted - 2010.07.03 05:10:00 - [123] Originally by: James Vayne Given that the people have publicly announced their loyalties for all to see, your list is almost as pointless as your existence. I don't know who you are Gallente but you've managed to make the best resume and post on this thread so far. Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik Totally pagan, totally beautiful, totally worshipful. This is life
Victoria Stecker Amarr	Posted - 2010.07.05 06:08:00 - [124] Edited by: Victoria Stecker on 05/07/2010 06:08:47 Originally by: Jesmine Kyriel I have spent most of my available time these last two days examining any and all alleged 'proof' of why Mrs. Constantine's deserves to be placed on a list of Sansha supporters. While trying to understand the woman's position in her Alliance and her relationship with Mrs. Neferis and the position of said Sani Sabik heretic and how these factors possibly influence Mrs. Constantine's decision-making, has been hard, I have arrived at a conclusion. There is currently no hard evidence, that are available to me, that positively confirms that Mrs. Constantine is supporting the Nation through her private relationship, in any shape or form. As such her name has been removed from this list at this time. The list has also been updated as a few more pilots have sworn loyalty to and support for the Nation. Their names have been added. The fact that you have wasted so much time determining the place of one person of marginal significance to the current efforts to halt Nation's invasion is hilariously depressing. That said, I would like to object to my own place on that list. I have no problem being listed among the Damned, as there is no other place for me, but I find it offensive that I be there for alleged support of that which I hate most. I will not deny my former corporation's efforts against Nation, but ask around a bit and you'll find that I've been at several major engagements with my guns pointed at the toasters. I lost my first ship during one of the early lowsec invasions. As I said, I have no problem being on everyone's ***list, just ask Sinjin Mokk if you wonder why. But I take great offense at being accused of supporting Nation, and Noland Devon will tell you what happens when I'm offended. In the embrace of Hell, I am no longer afraid, for with His damned embrace, I have become that which I once most feared: Death.*
Darveses DAEDALUS X The Final Stand.	Posted - 2010.07.05 08:51:00 - [125] Originally by: Victoria Stecker I have no problem being listed among the Damned, as there is no other place for me, but I find it offensive that I be there for alleged support of that which I hate most. I will not deny my former corporation's efforts against Nation, but ask around a bit and you'll find that I've been at several major engagements with my guns pointed at the toasters. I lost my first ship during one of the early lowsec invasions. This is a witch hunt, so dont expect anyone to do their research before putting names on that list and pointing fingers at people. ---
Valdezi Amarr	Posted - 2010.07.05 12:14:00 - [126] Originally by: Revan Neferis Originally by: James Vayne Given that the people have publicly announced their loyalties for all to see, your list is almost as pointless as your existence. I don't know who you are Gallente but you've managed to make the best resume and post on this thread so far. Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik When Revan thinks your post makes sense, that's when you know you're royally ****ed.
Revan Neferis The Archaeus of Blood The Final Stand.	Posted - 2010.07.05 15:53:00 - [127] Edited by: Revan Neferis on 05/07/2010 15:53:04 Originally by: Valdezi When Revan... When a nobody without a name, place or state with galnet history of 3 posts created exclusively against Jade and myself comes to galnet... I don't need to finish my point. Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik Totally pagan, totally beautiful, totally worshipful. This is life
Valdezi Amarr	Posted - 2010.07.06 04:47:00 - [128] Originally by: Revan Neferis Edited by: Revan Neferis on 05/07/2010 15:53:04 Originally by: Valdezi When Revan... When a nobody without a name, place or state with galnet history of 3 posts created exclusively against Jade and myself comes to galnet... I don't need to finish my point. Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik Don't flatter yourself, sweetheart. You forgot the one where I ripped on people for whining about a free ship. It's not all about you. Bless.
Revan Neferis The Archaeus of Blood The Final Stand.	Posted - 2010.07.06 05:46:00 - [129] Originally by: Valdezi Bless. When a nobody without a name... etc etc. Point. Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik Totally pagan, totally beautiful, totally worshipful. This is life
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2010.07.06 07:27:00 - [130] Originally by: Revan Neferis When a nobody without a name, place or state with galnet history of 3 posts created exclusively against Jade and myself comes to galnet... I don't need to finish my point. Well, you may as well start your debating career with an easy target. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Revan Neferis The Archaeus of Blood The Final Stand.	Posted - 2010.07.06 07:29:00 - [131] Originally by: Rodj Blake Well PIE detected. Pointless stalker. Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik Totally pagan, totally beautiful, totally worshipful. This is life
Corin Nebulon eXceed Inc. HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.07.06 08:29:00 - [132] This whole drama around Jade Constantine could be easily reduced to a simple question : Does she or does she not support the nation. We all know of her relationship with Revan Neferis by now. So declaring support for another supporter of the Nation is nothing else but supporting the nation indirectly. Yet you could argue that anybody's actions might support the Nation to some extend. The important question is, how much of Jade's the support for Revan Neferis will be redirected to the Nation. Here it is to be expected that should Refan take active action to help the nation, she will also be supported in this by Jade. For a simple fact that this is part of the bound called marriage. Unless this "marriage" was a frace itself and love is long dead ever since. On the other hand Jade, as a executor of the Star Fraction, opposed the Nation. This opposition surfaced mainly in the declaration of war against various capsuleer corporations that supported the Nation. Star Fraction, known as an efficient fighting force, however absolutly failed to achive any goal with this. The small number of vessels destroyed in the various wars, is so low, it will most likely not have exceeded the losses nation supporters expected in this timeframe and campaign. Not supporting someone, yet still supporting him, opposing someone yet not opposing him. How easily the eyes are deceived by the obviouse. Yet a few more thoughts reveal how invalid most of the arguments here are. Maybe Jade is not a Nation fanatic like so many are, but just a by-stander. A person watching humanity to struggle against a new threat. Yet, given how the Fractions self-understanding confronts with Kuvakei's ideas and plans against the Jove, their technology and against the capsuleers, its hard to belive that the Fraction would be satisfied with the megere results they achived. It almost looks like something or someone hold them back.
Darveses DAEDALUS X The Final Stand.	Posted - 2010.07.06 09:32:00 - [133] Originally by: Corin Nebulon Does she or does she not support the nation. I thought we had the answer to this already? Except you have "new evidence"? No?
Syn Callibri Minmatar Blacklight Incorporated	Posted - 2010.07.06 16:38:00 - [134] Edited by: Syn Callibri on 06/07/2010 16:50:36 Originally by: Corin Nebulon Does she or does she not support the nation. Does the fact that I myself (a nobody to most, granted) have had several rather plesant discourses with the Thrice Illustrious Soverign Neferis and even accepted a gift from her, make me a Sansha supporter...no it does not! If guilt is through association...put me on the list, I dare you. Anyone that knows what I think of "Sansha and his infinite nation", would tell you that you have veldspar for brains and offer to mine it out for you with a high caliber weapon. Get off Constantine's back...there are more things to worry about than the motivations (personal and private) of a single Free Captain or what the corp she represents has or hasn't accomplished....like Sansha's massing fleet...no offense intended Captain Constantine. @ the Thrice Illustrious: Again I thank you for your gift, though it was short lived through my own overconfidence and inexperience (got jumped by too many enemies alone at a gate and tried to fight my way out), it was none the less a glorious battle and the Phoenix served me well. Several of them gave up thier blood to my ancestors that day. -Syn "Dosst vlos zhah ussta ultrinnan"
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.07.06 16:55:00 - [135] Originally by: Corin Nebulon This whole drama around Jade Constantine could be easily reduced to a simple question : Does she or does she not support the nation. If only it was possible to ask me. Join the Revolution!
Syn Callibri Minmatar Blacklight Incorporated	Posted - 2010.07.06 17:04:00 - [136] Edited by: Syn Callibri on 06/07/2010 17:06:07 Originally by: Jade Constantine If only it was possible to ask me. ...but that would make too much sense Lady Free Captain...you can't whip up hysteria if you throw facts into the mix now can you? sardonic grin Its begining to look like Sansha isn't the most dangerous enemy that the Empires face afterall...its thier own ugly reflections. Now if only the Nation would look in the mirror once in a while...feigns contemplation...I wonder. "Dosst vlos zhah ussta ultrinnan"
Corin Nebulon eXceed Inc. HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.07.06 19:38:00 - [137] Originally by: Jade Constantine If only it was possible to ask me. Well, we could do that, yet would have no idea if your answer would be the truth. All what people can do is to try and predict, how you would act, if the situation should arise where you have to choose between your love and your principles and ideals alongside all the other people in the cluster. The invasion of the Nation is not a small matter and supporting or denying support, even if indirect, might affect millions of people in New Eden. All we can do is estimating and guessing on how you will react. Basing our guesses on facts we know. And then of course we can share our thoughts. Nothing else happened here. This is the reason why people appear on this list. Just because of the thoughts, guesses and possible evidences another person provides.
Syn Callibri Minmatar Blacklight Incorporated	Posted - 2010.07.06 19:50:00 - [138] Originally by: Corin Nebulon Originally by: Jade Constantine If only it was possible to ask me. Well, we could do that, yet would have no idea if your answer would be the truth. All what people can do is to try and predict, how you would act, if the situation should arise where you have to choose between your love and your principles and ideals alongside all the other people in the cluster. The invasion of the Nation is not a small matter and supporting or denying support, even if indirect, might affect millions of people in New Eden. All we can do is estimating and guessing on how you will react. Basing our guesses on facts we know. And then of course we can share our thoughts. Nothing else happened here. This is the reason why people appear on this list. Just because of the thoughts, guesses and possible evidences another person provides. Ah yes, the "I don't like you and think you're an enemy, therefore you must be an enemy" gambit...Overplayed, over-rated, outdated; especially when the "moral majority" praises pirates like VETO for pleadging to fight the Sansha Nation (no offense to VETO). "Dosst vlos zhah ussta ultrinnan"
Acer Rubrum	Posted - 2010.07.07 00:09:00 - [139] Oh hi there. o/ Just thought I'd post here to clarify my relationship with the Nation. While I previously have pledged my support to Master K and his zombie horde, he hasn't bothered to respond to me, which I consider grossly impolite and not all remunerative. Frankly, I only pledged my support purely for commercial reasons -- I maintain positive relations with most of the alleged "pirate" corporations -- but Master K's planetary shopping sprees have proved bad for my business ventures, namely selling drugs and hardcore pron to schoolchildren. Do Master K's zombies buy drugs and pron? Oh heck no those drooling cheap-ass bags of crap don't. They're all like, "Master K, we obey you. Master K, we obey you." As if that pays for all my customs fines. They're freaking zombies. They don't have any isk. (You don't even want to know what the fine is for getting caught with billions worth of booster pills and filthy Intaki Syndicate tentacle pron in your hold. Thank goodness all those Barney Fifes in the customs fleets can't point me to save their souls.) Any who -- Please put me down for being willing to work with whoever ends up winning this little thing. I'm less an opponent and more of a possible friend -- assuming Master K doesn't make you his mindless minions. p.s. Master K, if you're reading this. I'm totally pretending to be a double agent here. Chillax dude. I've always been with you, babe. Seriously now though, you need some drop for all those Nightmares? You guys shield tankers or armor tankers? Either way, I can hook you up. Gimme a shout. p.p.s. Also, Master K, do the Jovians like the drugs and getting a little freaky? I think they do. They just seem like they know how to really party, if you know what I mean. wink
Punx Evangeline	Posted - 2010.07.07 02:47:00 - [140] Originally by: Darveses This is a witch hunt, so dont expect anyone to do their research before putting names on that list and pointing fingers at people. Jesmine Kyriel: How do you know she is a witch? Amarrian: She looks like one. [Crowd indistinctly shouts] Jesmine: Bring her forward! Jade Constantine: I'm not a witch. Jesmine: But you are dressed as one... Jade: They dressed me up like this. [Crowd murmurs] Jade: And this isn't my nose. This is a false one. Jesmine: [inspects the nose and confirms] Well? Amarrian: Well, we did do the nose. Jesmine: The nose? Amarrian: And the hat. She's a witch! Amarrian Crowd: Burn her! Jesmine: Did you dress her up like this? Amarrian Crowd: No, no, no! [beat] Yes, yes. A bit. But she's got a wart. Jesmine: Why do you think that she is a witch? Amarrian: Well, she turned me into a newt. [Jesmine gives him a disbelieving look] Jesmine: A newt? [Silence] Amarrian: Well, I got better. Amarrian Crowd: Burn her anyway! ________________________ Compared to mine... what is your crime?
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2010.07.07 12:46:00 - [141] Originally by: Acer Rubrum Frankly, I only pledged my support purely for commercial reasons If you were to cheat at something for commercial reasons, would that be acceptable? If you were to steal for commercial reasons, would that mean that you are without blame? If you were to murder someone for commercial reasons, would that absolve you of any wrongdoing? Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Syn Callibri Minmatar Blacklight Incorporated	Posted - 2010.07.07 15:13:00 - [142] Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Acer Rubrum Frankly, I only pledged my support purely for commercial reasons If you were to cheat at something for commercial reasons, would that be acceptable? If you were to steal for commercial reasons, would that mean that you are without blame? If you were to murder someone for commercial reasons, would that absolve you of any wrongdoing? That kind of logic is hard to argue with...well said. "Dosst vlos zhah ussta ultrinnan"
Acer Rubrum	Posted - 2010.07.07 22:07:00 - [143] Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Acer Rubrum Frankly, I only pledged my support purely for commercial reasons If you were to cheat at something for commercial reasons, would that be acceptable? If you were to steal for commercial reasons, would that mean that you are without blame? If you were to murder someone for commercial reasons, would that absolve you of any wrongdoing? 1. Yes 2. If I got away with it or had a good enough lawyer to win acquittal on the charges, yes. 3. See No. 2.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2010.07.08 13:51:00 - [144] Originally by: Acer Rubrum Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Acer Rubrum Frankly, I only pledged my support purely for commercial reasons If you were to cheat at something for commercial reasons, would that be acceptable? If you were to steal for commercial reasons, would that mean that you are without blame? If you were to murder someone for commercial reasons, would that absolve you of any wrongdoing? 1. Yes 2. If I got away with it or had a good enough lawyer to win acquittal on the charges, yes. 3. See No. 2. Then you truly are one of the damned. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Invelious Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies	Posted - 2010.07.08 14:20:00 - [145] Edited by: Invelious on 08/07/2010 14:20:22 Originally by: Rodj Blake Then you truly are one of the damned. Most, if not, all of them are.
Obsidian Hawk RONA Legion	Posted - 2010.07.08 23:52:00 - [146] Originally by: Corin Nebulon This whole drama around Jade Constantine could be easily reduced to a simple question : Does she or does she not support the nation. You could, but in doing so you will get a response longer than most presidential speeches.
Jesmine Kyriel Amarr House Kyriel Inc.	Posted - 2010.08.04 09:14:00 - [147] The list has been updated, including a couple new corporations. As always, if anyone wish to have names added or removed, step up and bring your arguments and proof to support your claims, if any. _________________________ Reformist holder, loyal to House Kyriel and the Amarrian Empire.
Syn Callibri Blacklight Incorporated	Posted - 2010.08.04 13:29:00 - [148] Originally by: Jesmine Kyriel The list has been updated, including a couple new corporations. As always, if anyone wish to have names added or removed, step up and bring your arguments and proof to support your claims, if any. If your requests were fruit or crops... Names...supply always exceeds demand. Arguments...they are in abundance this season. Proof...has died of neglect. Syn Callibri Ilharess of the Scorpion Tribe
Jesmine Kyriel Amarr House Kyriel Inc.	Posted - 2010.08.06 16:21:00 - [149] Originally by: Zed Glacius To Master Kuvakei and to The Sansha Nation I herby pledge my services for as long as they will be desired. Poor fool. I was under the impression that, upon evaluation for capsuleer-hood the recruiters select people of at least some intelligence. It would appear this is not allways the case, sadly. Your name has been added, from today forth you will have to live with the consequenses of your choice. _________________________ Reformist holder, loyal to House Kyriel and the Amarrian Empire.
Jesmine Kyriel Amarr House Kyriel Inc.	Posted - 2010.08.07 09:26:00 - [150] Originally by: chaos berzerka master kuvakei, it is an honour to do deeds in your name Orion Scimatarii will follow you. glory to nation! And another. _________________________ Reformist holder, loyal to House Kyriel and the Amarrian Empire.

Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 :: [one page]

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.