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Korgan Medel
D-W-L EMPIRE
0
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Posted - 2012.07.18 07:06:00 -
[91] - Quote
You are not even close to the top earners, You are on the bottom end of the scale.
It is perfectly easy to get a loan from MD, I have had two or three when I first started, However there was a slight difference.
I asked politely, I didn't try to change the system by explaining how pointless audits are while asking for an unsecured loan either.
In return I got my loans quickly and repaid them quickly, as well as being offered further loans if need be.
As it is now I don't need to borrow.
Time to biomass this one. |

Caelis Boirelle
Aurora Investments
5
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Posted - 2012.07.18 08:47:00 -
[92] - Quote
Guys guys I have a plan.
If we all leave him alone, he'll probably just go away.
Or try again with an alt, in which case we just ignore it too.
Seriously dude you're using up precious space on the forum server. Give up and go home, you're just winding people up at this stage.
Further to that it's just plain insulting to potential investors to ask them to part with their hard earned isk on the grounds of such a pathetic offering as well as to the many other traders on here who put enormous amounts of time and energy into genuine bonds and projects.
Also you've made such a laughing stock of yourself at this stage I'll be surprised if even 12 months down the line you'll be able to get funding because a quick forum search of your name is just going to throw up this omnishambles of a bond every time. |

Mr Bushar
Myron Gainez
12
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Posted - 2012.07.18 12:15:00 -
[93] - Quote
Congratulations to another new premium investor, Xearal , with an investment of 100M in bonds.
I am looking forward to posting our July 18 operating results later today and providing an updated schedule of bonds outstanding as well as a statement of net assets |

Korgan Medel
D-W-L EMPIRE
0
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Posted - 2012.07.18 12:34:00 -
[94] - Quote
Nice to see you advertising this scam through Jita local, Just where it belongs, not clogging up MD. |

Mr Bushar
Myron Gainez
12
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Posted - 2012.07.18 21:08:00 -
[95] - Quote
July 18 mid-day results and updates
http://i.imgur.com/EuXdw.png
We're now up to 5.5B in turnover, and 600M in net profit. Investor bond schedule to be updated shortly in the main post.
Today was a little slow, I had to take a few breaks and just leave the items up. Regardless, these results are still good, and I am looking forward for the end of the day and tomorrow. |

CorInaXeraL
Order of the Silver Dragons Silver Dragonz
44
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Posted - 2012.07.18 21:57:00 -
[96] - Quote
Disappointed.
Tried to convo in-game but it kept rejecting.
Also, disable your CSPA charge. It's annoying. |

Mr Bushar
Myron Gainez
12
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Posted - 2012.07.18 22:05:00 -
[97] - Quote
CorInaXeraL wrote:Disappointed.
Tried to convo in-game but it kept rejecting.
Also, disable your CSPA charge. It's annoying.
Will message you if you want to talk Unless I'm using the in game chat, I auto reject invitations and minimize it I set my CSPA charge to 0, not sure why it's still asking for it |

Tanith YarnDemon
Hypernet Inc. Umbrella Chemical Inc
23
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Posted - 2012.07.19 09:08:00 -
[98] - Quote
The only part of all of this I don't really understand is how you generated said spreadsheets.
Your market strategies are to important to share an API with trusted members of the community, yet you have no issues sharing it with Callean Drevus? (No offense to Callean Drevus whom I'm sure is legit and wildly uninterested)
It's obviously up to you, I'm just curious about the double standards. |

Mr Bushar
Myron Gainez
12
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Posted - 2012.07.19 12:25:00 -
[99] - Quote
Tanith YarnDemon wrote:The only part of all of this I don't really understand is how you generated said spreadsheets.
Your market strategies are to important to share an API with trusted members of the community, yet you have no issues sharing it with Callean Drevus? (No offense to Callean Drevus whom I'm sure is legit and wildly uninterested)
It's obviously up to you, I'm just curious about the double standards.
I'm not going to claim that my trading strategies are so super top secret that I can't afford even the most remote possibility of someone getting a look at them. However, my style of trading is unique, and based on my very very extensive market analysis and watching the behaviours of many of my competitors, without being disrespectful at all, I can say that many competitors do not have a good understanding of what it takes to be really successful. In other words, they're being stupid.
I haven't seen a single guide covering trading in as much depth or with as much strategy as to how I'm approaching it (let alone the level of intensity of having everything in the UI open at once, excel spreadsheets, 3 API analyzers, constant market trend analysis and sell/buy/hold/liquidate decisions for many orders at a such a rapid pace when I'm at it that a random convo request window popping up would make me rage, but maybe I'm just insane). Traders are finding their favorite high margin item of the day and latch onto it for dear life, without much thought to many other factors. |

Tanith YarnDemon
Hypernet Inc. Umbrella Chemical Inc
23
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Posted - 2012.07.19 12:39:00 -
[100] - Quote
Interesting reply, sadly it doesn't really tell why giving one random stranger the API and not another. If the reason is as easy as you trust Callean Drevus but not VV I'm sure we can convince him to audit you for us, and most issues would be gone? |

Mr Bushar
Myron Gainez
12
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Posted - 2012.07.19 13:23:00 -
[101] - Quote
Tanith YarnDemon wrote:Interesting reply, sadly it doesn't really tell why giving one random stranger the API and not another. If the reason is as easy as you trust Callean Drevus but not VV I'm sure we can convince him to audit you for us, and most issues would be gone?
I've actually removed my API from any service website and will be hosting a version of eve-profits locally for future spreadsheet purposes :) |

David Forge
Forge Enterprises
127
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Posted - 2012.07.19 13:24:00 -
[102] - Quote
Okay, that last reply (EDIT: second to last) sounded scammy as hell. I will pay the cost of an audit if VV will do it, full price for just a quick and basic analysis to see that actual trading that match these reported profits is going on. I pretty sure I can guarantee that whatever ++ber-proprietary trading Kung-fu you claim to be using will be of little interest to him and if you're not paying for it then your two gripes are assuaged. |

Shadowfoot
Myron Gainez
0
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Posted - 2012.07.19 13:49:00 -
[103] - Quote
Haha I love it. Mr Bushar is a new player(didnt play game for longer than 2month combined since 2003), and he trades on the level of a trader who was playing game for years.
I also love the fact that you think he is in need of any bonds, or audits. I believe we will get much more ISK from our current investors and their friends after 1month passes. And I expect our income to grow astronomicaly, to the point where I will start doing invention/research/production. Right now its all trading.
Quote:Interesting reply, sadly it doesn't really tell why giving one random stranger the API and not another. If the reason is as easy as you trust Callean Drevus but not VV I'm sure we can convince him to audit you for us, and most issues would be gone?
For releasing sensitive stuff like that IRL , auditing firms would follow Arthur Anderson's path, be sued, and responsible people go to jail for a heavy sentence. |

Strrog
House Aratus Fatal Ascension
2
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Posted - 2012.07.19 14:07:00 -
[104] - Quote
CorInaXeraL wrote:How is this thread still alive? Can we finally bury it and quit beating it like a dead horse?
We need moar verbal/text DPS in here :P
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Mr Bushar
Myron Gainez
12
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Posted - 2012.07.19 14:30:00 -
[105] - Quote
David Forge wrote:Okay, that last reply (EDIT: second to last) sounded scammy as hell. I will pay the cost of an audit if VV will do it, full price for just a quick and basic analysis to see that actual trading that match these reported profits is going on. I pretty sure I can guarantee that whatever ++ber-proprietary trading Kung-fu you claim to be using will be of little interest to him and if you're not paying for it then your two gripes are assuaged.
Shadowfoot can vouch for my level of insanity when it comes to perfecting everything I do |

Kailean
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2012.07.19 14:44:00 -
[106] - Quote
Mr Bushar wrote:However, my style of trading is unique, and based on my very very extensive market analysis and watching the behaviours of many of my competitors, without being disrespectful at all, I can say that many competitors do not have a good understanding of what it takes to be really successful. In other words, they're being stupid. I usually don't do this, but aren't you just precious. "The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun." (I'd offer bonus points if anyone knows where it's from, but with Google that's pretty useless.) Chances are that you in fact, aren't unique in your methods. Any big trader -- not the ones you so flippantly dismiss with being stupid -- will do his or her market research. How they do it might differ, but the end result is that they make money.
Additionally, your growth is nothing exceptional. I'd wager that most people that know what they're doing can report similar figures for trading with less than 2b. If you manage to keep the same levels of profit once you hit 2-10b it might be worth a raised eyebrow, but nothing more. |

Mr Bushar
Myron Gainez
15
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Posted - 2012.07.19 14:47:00 -
[107] - Quote
Kailean wrote: I usually don't do this, but aren't you just precious. "The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun." (I'd offer bonus points if anyone knows where it's from, but with Google that's pretty useless.) Chances are that you in fact, aren't unique in your methods. Any big trader -- not the ones you so flippantly dismiss with being stupid -- will do his or her market research. How they do it might differ, but the end result is that they make money.
Additionally, your growth is nothing exceptional. I'd wager that most people that know what they're doing can report similar figures for trading with less than 2b. If you manage to keep the same levels of profit once you hit 2-10b it might be worth a raised eyebrow, but nothing more.
As I said, I may not be the best trader. In fact, I'm certain that I'm not; following Rykker's success in his thread, I can admit that my level of trading skill is nowhere as close right now.
That cannot stop me from continuously improving my tactics and striving to be the best trader though, and my progress/current ideas about the market are to remain undisclosed.
FYI, I'm already at 2b. |

Kailean
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2012.07.19 14:53:00 -
[108] - Quote
Mr Bushar wrote:David Forge wrote:Okay, that last reply (EDIT: second to last) sounded scammy as hell. I will pay the cost of an audit if VV will do it, full price for just a quick and basic analysis to see that actual trading that match these reported profits is going on. I pretty sure I can guarantee that whatever ++ber-proprietary trading Kung-fu you claim to be using will be of little interest to him and if you're not paying for it then your two gripes are assuaged. Shadowfoot can vouch for my level of insanity when it comes to perfecting everything I do But we trust VV, not Shadowfoot. |

Mr Bushar
Myron Gainez
15
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Posted - 2012.07.19 17:47:00 -
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JULY 19: NEWS! SURPRISE BONUS PAYMENT
I have just wired a total of 12.5M to my investors with the following message:
Dear Valued Investor,
I have wired funds to you equal to 2% of your invested principal. This payment is in addition to the regular full repayment of principal and 15% interest that you will receive from me.
This bonus was paid to you because of exceptional operational results that have far exceeded my expectations, and as a token of gratitude for your continued support of my trading business.
Have a great weekend! :) Bushar
This was a one-time payment. I do not guarantee bonus payments above and beyond the interest stated in our agreement. However, depending upon contingent events (such as exceptional operational results), it is up to my discretion (with the consent of Shadowfoot) to issue bonus payments to investors.
While I normally do not release any internal analysis information, I will release the following:
500M Bond Issued: Daily Income: 26,523,314 Daily Interest Expense: (2,500,000) Daily Net Profit: 24,023,314
100M Bond Issued: Daily Income: 13,544,687 Daily Interest Expense: (500,000) Daily Net Profit: 13,044,687
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Mr Bushar
Myron Gainez
15
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Posted - 2012.07.19 17:56:00 -
[110] - Quote
Kailean wrote: I'll just say this and then leave the thread for good:
It's unfortunate that our disagreements have angered you. I hope that one day, we can come to a common understanding based on mutual respect.
You should know that I will always welcome you back and would accept you as an investor in the future, should you ever be interested :)
Have a wonderful weekend. |

David Forge
Forge Enterprises
127
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Posted - 2012.07.19 18:03:00 -
[111] - Quote
So that we're all clear, you are going to refuse an audit at no cost or risk to you to help clear away this cloud of doubt? |

Mr Bushar
Myron Gainez
15
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Posted - 2012.07.19 18:09:00 -
[112] - Quote
David Forge wrote:So that we're all clear, you are going to refuse an audit at no cost or risk to you to help clear away this cloud of doubt?
Absolutely :)
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Shadowfoot
Myron Gainez
0
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Posted - 2012.07.19 18:11:00 -
[113] - Quote
David Forge wrote:So that we're all clear, you are going to refuse an audit at no cost or risk to you to help clear away this cloud of doubt?
You are not interested in investing in his bond. You are so jelly you are trying to do the same yourself with funds you currently own.
I enjoy reading this thread so much. So many pathetic desperate replies.
You think you will get his strategy for 200mil?
I will talk to him if you pay us 100bil. Since thats how much we will worth by the end of the year. Nothing more needs to be said |

David Forge
Forge Enterprises
127
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Posted - 2012.07.19 18:13:00 -
[114] - Quote
Shadowfoot wrote:Nothing more needs to be said
Finally something I agree with. |

Mr Bushar
Myron Gainez
15
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Posted - 2012.07.19 18:18:00 -
[115] - Quote
Please note that this bonus payment was predicted by me to be possible before I even started this bond run.
I didn't announce it earlier because:
1) It was based on contingent events, and I did not want to make a promise I cannot fulfill.
2) The cries of 'SCAM' would have been so intense that even I would probably start getting scared. This bonus was unannounced, and a complete surprise, because I wanted to reward those who trust me and invested in my business.
3) There is never a guarantee for future bonus payments. There may be another, or there may never be one again.
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Caelis Boirelle
Aurora Investments
5
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Posted - 2012.07.19 20:18:00 -
[116] - Quote
Shadowfoot wrote:Haha I love it. Mr Bushar is a new player(didnt play game for longer than 2month combined since 2003), and he trades on the level of a trader who was playing game for years.
Uh. No.
Shadowfoot wrote:I also love the fact that you think he is in need of any bonds, or audits. I believe we will get much more ISK from our current investors and their friends after 1month passes. And I expect our income to grow astronomicaly, to the point where I will start doing invention/research/production. Right now its all trading.
Well if that's the case, just shut up shop now and leave this forum in peace.
You're giving the neighbourhood a bad name. |

CorInaXeraL
Order of the Silver Dragons Silver Dragonz
47
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Posted - 2012.07.19 20:53:00 -
[117] - Quote
Shadowfoot wrote:
You are not interested in investing in his bond. You are so jelly you are trying to do the same yourself with funds you currently own.
I enjoy reading this thread so much. So many pathetic desperate replies.
You think you will get his strategy for 200mil?
This...is comedy gold. If I really cared about how Mr B. did business and wanted to infiltrate his market, it would take far more than an audit to figure it out. Besides, there are far more subtle ways about infiltrating and demolishing/stealing than screaming on MD for audits. Jelly, me? Naaaaah. Don't really think anyone here is 'jelly'.
Shadowfoot wrote:
I will talk to him if you pay us 100bil. Since thats how much we will worth by the end of the year. Nothing more needs to be said
If, in one year you manage to build up to 100b....then you're just as good, perhaps slightly less-so, than everyone else here. News Flash, it's NOT THAT HARD to do this.
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Mr Bushar
Myron Gainez
15
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Posted - 2012.07.19 21:34:00 -
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July 19 Results
I'm happy to announce that profitability has recovered and the trend is again showing good growth rates Turnover is up to 8 Billion!!
Yesterday was slow due to the cyclical nature of the market and me getting into some bad trades. Nothing we cannot recover from :)
http://i.imgur.com/2zVS6.png |

CorInaXeraL
Order of the Silver Dragons Silver Dragonz
48
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Posted - 2012.07.19 21:55:00 -
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I've figured it out....
He's like a web-marketer. He's getting paid for each post this thread brings in. He pays CCP for serverspace, and they pay him for the increase in traffic....
Genius.
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Mr Bushar
Myron Gainez
16
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Posted - 2012.07.19 22:24:00 -
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Congratulations to Invictus Kruegar, our third Premium Investor, who invested a total of 100M!
Updated schedule of bonds outstanding:
http://i.imgur.com/VvpMY.png |
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