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Miilla	Posted - 2010.06.11 10:16:00 - [1] Target must have autotargeting enabled ( you will be supprised how many do :) Get a fleet of neutrals, and all lock the target, fill up their lock slots. Then with the real agressor, lock and engate the target who can not target now due to all auto targetinglock slots all filled up. EECM is useless in this sceuario :) The only defence is to disable auto targting.
Sick symphony	Posted - 2010.06.11 11:24:00 - [2] i pvp a fair deal in low/0.0 (not to the extreme thou) but i dont see many autotargeting. i missed something or talking about jita fighting? sounds kinda retarted to me anyway. what do i know. i would prolly just tell those 9-10 peeps "filling the lockslots" to shoot the guy down.
Miilla	Posted - 2010.06.11 11:25:00 - [3] Originally by: Sick symphony i pvp a fair deal in low/0.0 (not to the extreme thou) but i dont see many autotargeting. i missed something or talking about jita fighting? sounds kinda retarted to me anyway. what do i know. i would prolly just tell those 9-10 peeps "filling the lockslots" to shoot the guy down. Highsec mostly then, since it is on by default. A lot do not disable it. SO use that tool :)
Lady Platina	Posted - 2010.06.11 11:33:00 - [4] still sounds retarted to bring what? 9 guys for 1. i would prolly just use the refit button and make a loudout to take him out solo. if its fleets vs fleets ur talking about. are u gonna bring 50 guys vs 5 then or what? just woke up so might be thinking hellawrong here but whatever.
Land0 CaIrissian Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2010.06.11 15:13:00 - [5] Originally by: Miilla Target must have autotargeting enabled ( you will be supprised how many do :) Get a fleet of neutrals, and all lock the target, fill up their lock slots. Then with the real agressor, lock and engate the target who can not target now due to all auto targetinglock slots all filled up. EECM is useless in this sceuario :) The only defence is to disable auto targting. Won't work by default. Auto-targeting is preset to only auto-lock the one person.
Khors Amtek Inc	Posted - 2010.06.11 15:43:00 - [6] lol
Minchurra Caldari Feudum Chalybis Primary.	Posted - 2010.06.11 16:28:00 - [7] Except that nobody whose spent more than 5 minutes in a RR BS fleet has auto-lock turned on.
Miilla	Posted - 2010.06.11 17:10:00 - [8] Originally by: Minchurra Except that nobody whose spent more than 5 minutes in a RR BS fleet has auto-lock turned on. Maybe so but Its amazing how many ppl do have it on :) So use that as a tool in your toolbox.
slave redeemer Minmatar	Posted - 2010.06.11 17:34:00 - [9] Confirming Miilla is the tool in the eve toolbox
Khors Amtek Inc	Posted - 2010.06.11 18:18:00 - [10] Originally by: slave redeemer Confirming Miilla is the tool in the eve toolbox Not the sharpest one though.
Furb Killer Gallente	Posted - 2010.06.11 18:33:00 - [11] 1. Everyone who ever flies in some kind of competent fleet that includes RR/logis has it disabled, so 90% of the remaining people would die anyway, regardless if they could target you or not. 2. On default autoretargetting is limitted to 1 or 2 targets, in other words this will never work.
The'Best Hellfury Incura	Posted - 2010.06.11 19:01:00 - [12] You're an idiot.
Felix Esperium Lysergic Distortions Research and Development	Posted - 2010.06.11 19:18:00 - [13] Originally by: The'Best Hellfury You're an idiot.
The Awesomnity	Posted - 2010.06.12 11:12:00 - [14] It'd work far better to be more awesome.
MIDI ION	Posted - 2010.06.12 12:01:00 - [15] Except for the fact that this is a ****** tactic that wont work on most ppl since the Auto tgter can be told how many tgts to auto lock and most ppl only have this set to 1 or 2 leaving plenty of slots open for the real aggressors. Try again NOOB
Mashie Saldana Red Federation	Posted - 2010.06.12 12:27:00 - [16] Why would anyone have auto-targeting back enabled?
Miilla	Posted - 2010.06.12 15:13:00 - [17] Originally by: Mashie Saldana Why would anyone have auto-targeting back enabled? Because it is enabled by default.
Peckles Dark Revelations	Posted - 2010.06.12 17:53:00 - [18] Originally by: Miilla Originally by: Mashie Saldana Why would anyone have auto-targeting back enabled? Because it is enabled by default. Like has been stated already, its only default to auto lock one target back. Therefore the only time this would ever work is if someone went in and set there auto-targeting to lock as many targets as they can target. Even if they did, all they would have to do is unlock one of their other targets and target whoever the aggressor is. TL;DR - This is an absolutely horrible idea
Kingwood Amarr Paxi-Fixi Ewoks	Posted - 2010.06.13 13:02:00 - [19] Awesome idea. Instead of bringing 8 DPS ships to kill 1 guy let's bring in 8 ships to fill his targeting slots so he can't use ECM. What? But hey, you know what you're talking about, since BC shows you do have 11 kills to only 60 losses. I tried to think of some witty response but the OP is just plain ******ed.
Wetu	Posted - 2010.06.13 14:01:00 - [20] why all the replyers so bitter.. amazing
Shade Millith Caldari Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.06.14 12:05:00 - [21] Dunno about you, but this is pretty ******ed. The default setting (which is what you're relying on) for lockback is I think, a total of 1 person Wouldn't work even on a half wit with lockback turned on ------------------------
Titanius Bridge Caldari The Secret Corp	Posted - 2010.06.14 14:08:00 - [22] This seems to be a waste of resources to me, and I'm new to the game. So, take from that what you will. ------------- Because I am Bridge, and I'm AWWWWWESOOOOMMMMEEE!!!
Mal Lokrano Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2010.06.14 20:36:00 - [23] It may work, but in all honesty it is a crapshoot. Even if they did all they would have to do is unlock you, then disable autolock. ____________________________________________ When going to a party with wine, women, and song. Always ascertain the vintage of the first two.
Agent Unknown Caldari	Posted - 2010.06.15 00:38:00 - [24] I think it's more fun locking people while they're fighting in high-sec and they end up shooting you instead. People try it on me all the time...I doubt they're just watching the fight tbh. I forgot to mention that you are in fact reading something that is called a signature.
Amanda Mor Gallente	Posted - 2010.06.15 05:42:00 - [25] Originally by: Agent Unknown I think it's more fun locking people while they're fighting in high-sec and they end up shooting you instead. People try it on me all the time...I doubt they're just watching the fight tbh. They do that to you and the guy you're fighting so that they can see your HP bars. That way they can tell who is about to die, and quickly scoot in and snag your loots. And yeah, this auto-target back ECM idea is useless - it's like coming up with an elaborate plan to distract a blind person so that you can steal food off his plate, when you can just reach over and take the food anyway ---------------------------------------------- I don't have an alt, but there's a main that would be upset if he heard me say that...
foksieloy Minmatar Universal Army Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.06.15 08:26:00 - [26] Solid troll, 6/10, you raked up a few replies. Of course, it should be obvious to everyone this would not work ever. _______________________ We come for our people!
Miilla	Posted - 2010.06.15 08:53:00 - [27] Edited by: Miilla on 15/06/2010 08:53:39 Another fun thing to do is.. Get agro by stealing some big dock pvpers can, he shoots you. Dock. When his wartarget enters, he focuses on that. You undock and ECM Jam him non stop :) Increasing the chances of his war target killing him :)
Furb Killer Gallente	Posted - 2010.06.15 09:55:00 - [28] And since he cant fire then he just redocks when agro timer is over...
Miilla	Posted - 2010.06.15 11:11:00 - [29] Originally by: Furb Killer And since he cant fire then he just redocks when agro timer is over... Wait until he starts firing. Keep ON off ON off your ECMs :)
Furb Killer Gallente	Posted - 2010.06.15 11:37:00 - [30] Undock in shield tanked hype, shoot him, kill him. Together with his WT you can then at least be sure he dies.

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