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Hi, If you are part of a fleet engagement, being in the same system, we cannot reimburse, no matter the condition of our server. If we start reimbursing in those conditions than any party can force reimbursement by simply getting enough pilots to produce lag or any other side effect of a heavy load. That means we would have to reimburse any and all losses from every fleet engagement, including changes to sovereignty or the loss of sovereignty structures. Our petition system and reimbursement policy would become a tool for in game parties to defend their assets or to manipulate the political and military landscape. For these reasons we cannot deviate from our policy and for these reasons we cannot reimburse any losses suffered from a fleet battle. With kind regards, GM ####### The EVE Online Customer Support Team CCP Games

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Originally by: Marlona Sky

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This entire thread is nothing but people that are part of the NC or fan boys that are hoping CCP does not remove the ships that appeared after DT, and people that are part of the SC or fan boys that are hoping CCP does remove the ships that appeared after DT.

Lets just wait for the findings from the investigation. How many days has it been anyways?

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Originally by: Snot Shot

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I think CCP is hoping we all forget about thisàà

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Originally by: Marlona Sky

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Edited by: Marlona Sky on 24/06/2010 23:32:35
Relax guys. It was a bug(s) that caused <insert whatever fits your spin here> and they are trying to figure out what. It is a lose lose situation for CCP right now. If they remove them NC + all supports of NC will scream that SC has DEVs working for them. If they stay then SC + all supports of NC will scream that NC has DEVs working for them.

Why would anyone be in a rush to face that mess?

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Originally by: Lord TGR

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I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. The players aren't making enough of a stink about it, so it's probably just being quietly ignored.

I'll happily be proven wrong, though.

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Originally by: Marlona Sky

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Originally by: Kikki Di'je

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Originally by: Marlona Sky

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How quickly once elected some CSM delegates turn their back on the community.

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Someones bitter...how about you take that deep breath and step away from the keyboard. You are far from anyone important to be demanding anything.

Stop crying already, makes Evil Thug's emo rage look like Barney in comparison.

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I just want some answers. But please alt, keep saying every response I do is mad or emo or bitter or whatever makes you happy.

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Originally by: Le Cardinal

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CCP knows they have a potential new EVEgate going on and try to avoid any discussion about it.

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Originally by: GM Grimmi

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Here is an update regarding events which occurred during a large fleet engagement in 6NJ8-V which took place on June 16th.

Some ships were destroyed during the engagement, yet they also managed to jump to safety. This resulted in the ships reappearing in-game some time after they were destroyed. Our server-side logs represent both of the aforementioned circumstances and the final outcome was that the ships remained in game with the modules which were destroyed along with them despite kill reports being sent out showing their destruction. Modules moved to wrecks upon the ships' destruction were not duplicated, and the owners of the ships received insurance payouts for the losses. No game masters or CCP staff for that matter were involved with the revival of the ships in any way.

The underlying issue has been examined and improvements implemented that should prevent similar situations in the future.

Regarding fleet-battle reimbursement and GM intervention in them in general, we have been down that road before and it's not the way to go. This has been discussed in much detail and the consensus is that it is best to simply stay well clear of messing with fleet-battles; this fleet engagement is no exception and we will remain consistent in this stance. We will not be passing judgment on what should have happened during this battle nor alter the outcome in any way.

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