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Nooma K'Larr
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.18 11:32:00 -
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When will we have a DX10 graphics option? Is it in work?
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Haxfar Portlaind
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Posted - 2010.06.18 11:33:00 -
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Most likely not in the near future...
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.06.18 11:33:00 -
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When it is supported by 95% of the player baseà i.e. never, since DX11 will get there first. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |

Dan O'Connor
Cerberus Network Dignitas.
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Posted - 2010.06.18 11:34:00 -
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The game does not automatically use DX10 on capable machines/GPUs? 
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Serpents smile
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Posted - 2010.06.18 11:37:00 -
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http://www.eve-search.com/search/dx 10
Question asked a lot before, answered, never afaik. But I'm sure my favotite Nooma will spent some time following the link given above and come with an answer back. 
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Shintai
Gallente Arx Io Orbital Factories Arx Io
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Posted - 2010.06.18 11:37:00 -
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Using DX10, DX10.1 or DX11 is quite useless, unless there is a reason for it.
Its like asking why EvE doesnt require 16GB of memory. And you would say something along with. "But it only uses 500MB or less.) --------------------------------------
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Grez
M. Corp Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.06.18 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: Shintai Using DX10, DX10.1 or DX11 is quite useless, unless there is a reason for it.
Its like asking why EvE doesnt require 16GB of memory. And you would say something along with. "But it only uses 500MB or less.)
I'd be careful there mister. DX11 is most definitely not useless in any way, shape or form. Do your research. ---
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Opertone
Caldari Metalworks Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.18 11:44:00 -
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Will it require new graphics content?
I suggest that you start drawing concepts for CCP, cause they will update many of the ship models and even skins.
Sure DX 10 content surpasses all previous versions, but there is no such content in EvE yet. Decide what you want most of all and give CCP the concepts, drawings and desires.
I am sure you all want to fix ugliness in certain ship models. Make interface fonts bigger and easier to read and add space dust, smoke, particles, which have become so common for DX 10 video graphics.
EvE is always improving and it's a matter of mutual desire to make world more beautiful.
I Would start drawing new Eagle concept, just the way they done with scorpion, it will sure inspire them.
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Shintai
Gallente Arx Io Orbital Factories Arx Io
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Posted - 2010.06.18 11:52:00 -
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Edited by: Shintai on 18/06/2010 11:53:09
Originally by: Grez
Originally by: Shintai Using DX10, DX10.1 or DX11 is quite useless, unless there is a reason for it.
Its like asking why EvE doesnt require 16GB of memory. And you would say something along with. "But it only uses 500MB or less.)
I'd be careful there mister. DX11 is most definitely not useless in any way, shape or form. Do your research.
I quite know what DX11 brings, DX10 and 10.1. The biggest step is actually 10.0 due to reduced execution overhead and increased amounts of objects possible.
The question that you gonna answer now is. What will EvE bennefit from any of the higher DXes than DX9 as it uses now.
The essense behind DX11 is mandatory 4x MSAA, Tesselation and compute shaders. --------------------------------------
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Sefredius Mengsk
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Posted - 2010.06.18 12:47:00 -
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NEVARR!!!
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iP0D
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Posted - 2010.06.18 13:06:00 -
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Careful or you're going to get CCP to use Valve accumulated data again as a determination for the client's GPU focus, instead of investing time and resources in to streamlining it for performance across the board. The old "shader version X" debate, without any correction for client platform technical foundation, computing performance indexes, notebook distribution & market share, etc.
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Pennwisedom
Gallente Sublime.
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Posted - 2010.06.18 13:21:00 -
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Man, you make a lot of threads with little to no content. Really, why?
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Noun Verber
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.06.18 13:37:00 -
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Originally by: Nooma K'Larr When will we have a DX10 graphics option? Is it in work?
Why do you care?
If you needed medium shaders so bad you can't use DX10.
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DeceivingApperance
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.18 13:45:00 -
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dx10 may be more useful than a rats ****, doesnt mean dx10 should be a priority seeing how its completely redundant in eve im guessing someone wants more shiny light
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Natalie Caladan
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2010.06.18 13:46:00 -
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Who cares
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Nooma K'Larr
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.18 14:37:00 -
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Originally by: Pennwisedom Man, you make a lot of threads with little to no content. Really, why?
What do you want, a ****ing essay?
The attention span of the average person here is ****. How many replies start with
tl;dr around here?
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Derelicht
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Posted - 2010.06.18 14:59:00 -
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Originally by: Nooma K'Larr
Originally by: Pennwisedom Man, you make a lot of threads with little to no content. Really, why?
What do you want, a ****ing essay?
The attention span of the average person here is ****. How many replies start with
tl;dr around here?
/me waits for the obligatory "tl;dr" reply to that.
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Tavin Aikisen
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2010.06.18 15:30:00 -
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I wish it was soon. Sick of having no anti-aliasing when using advanced lighting effects.
ôRemember this. Trust your eyes, you will kill each other. Trust your veins, you can all go home in peace.ö
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Spankable Delight
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Posted - 2010.06.18 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: Nooma K'Larr When will we have a DX10 graphics option? Is it in work?
Let me guess - you want to know so you can get your supply of kleenex ready to bemoan the loss of DX9, just like you cry about the removal of widescreen, and the removal of the graphics engine 3 people were still using?
Originally by: Nooma K'Larr waaaaaaah. waaaaaaaaah
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Shiganaru
Quantum Forge
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Posted - 2010.06.18 16:38:00 -
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You know, there is absolutely no reason now not to upgrade all games to DX11.
DX11 is built in a way that if the computer the game is running does not support DX11 or DX10, it reverts to a DX9 feature level, but would still enable CCP to put out better graphics for those that have DX10 and DX11 cards.
Anyway, get on it CCP.
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Pennwisedom
Gallente Sublime.
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Posted - 2010.06.18 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: Nooma K'Larr
Originally by: Pennwisedom Man, you make a lot of threads with little to no content. Really, why?
What do you want, a ****ing essay?
The attention span of the average person here is ****. How many replies start with
tl;dr around here?
First, I want a reason as to why a DX10 version should even be made. Secondly, I want you to stop making 500 threads. Thirdly, I want threads like this to be put in the right forum (Features and Ideas). Fourthly, I want you to understand the difference between quantity and quality.
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Reptail
Caldari Cool Rampage Amongst Zeus 1
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Posted - 2010.06.18 17:14:00 -
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Originally by: Pennwisedom
Originally by: Nooma K'Larr
Originally by: Pennwisedom Man, you make a lot of threads with little to no content. Really, why?
What do you want, a ****ing essay?
The attention span of the average person here is ****. How many replies start with
tl;dr around here?
First, I want a reason as to why a DX10 version should even be made. Secondly, I want you to stop making 500 threads. Thirdly, I want threads like this to be put in the right forum (Features and Ideas). Fourthly, I want you to understand the difference between quantity and quality.
1)Don't you want to many things?
2)+1 for all Nooma posts, i like every single post u made keep up the good work 
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Nooma K'Larr
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.18 17:32:00 -
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Originally by: Pennwisedom
Originally by: Nooma K'Larr
Originally by: Pennwisedom Man, you make a lot of threads with little to no content. Really, why?
What do you want, a ****ing essay?
The attention span of the average person here is ****. How many replies start with
tl;dr around here?
First, I want a reason as to why a DX10 version should even be made. Secondly, I want you to stop making 500 threads. Thirdly, I want threads like this to be put in the right forum (Features and Ideas). Fourthly, I want you to understand the difference between quantity and quality.
Fifthly, it's a game forum so get over yourself.
Sixthly, STFU or GTFO.
Seventhly, dont forget to have a nice day.
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mechtech
SRS Industries SRS.
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Posted - 2010.06.18 17:53:00 -
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I want a DX11 version, and I want it badly. I mean I'm already running eve maxed out at 200fps, I (and many others) have a lot of power to spare.
Reasons why? Better lighting effects possible, and much better shadows. Antialiasing officially supported. Tessellation on ships (enabled when zoomed up) would make eve ships look positively stunning. Dynamic particle effects would also be much better, less "colored tube" effects that we now have.
I wouldn't need a DX11 client now, but I would want the ambulation engine to be DX11, or it would be outdated on release.
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Amerilia
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Posted - 2010.06.18 18:10:00 -
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I hope never, or if then over OpenGL in Linux/Mac. I will never move beyond WinXP on the windows side, and I do have a lot of reasons. Well except in whatever comes after Win7 they have a working command console, an unnerfed OpenGL, a lot better "user priviledge" system (seriously I cant access my appdata from within the system, but the winxp machine in the network can.. ehm wtf!?), just to name a few.. If however they harness the power of my DX11 Card under Linux, well then they have my approval.
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Shintai
Gallente Arx Io Orbital Factories Arx Io
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Posted - 2010.06.18 19:37:00 -
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Originally by: Tavin Aikisen I wish it was soon. Sick of having no anti-aliasing when using advanced lighting effects.
Thats a whole other issue unrelated to DX version. You can force it on btw. Issue was mainly that the EvE client tends to crash with it on asfar as I recall. But all the stuff with the same engine in videos, tournament etc im sure is with both ;) --------------------------------------
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Straight Hustlin
Gallente The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.06.18 19:44:00 -
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I would sincerly hope that CCP fixes their horribly broken game before deciding to add any more shiney bits to **** it up more.
However experience dictates otherwise.
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Exploding Tukey
Gallente Capital Construction Research Pioneer Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.18 20:14:00 -
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If you want to game to use DX11, its as simple as putting in one line of code to import the libraries. It's a whole other store for the developers to have to jump into the engine code and start reworking the fundamentals of the game. no, not textures, models or anything, the actual engine that has been running the game for a good while. and for what? slightly better shadows in the case when your ship covers other parts of your ship and nothing else.
Ohh, lets use tessellation to make the shield or repair effect looks slightly different, now the light bends in correct mathematical layers.
Why don't we implement OpenCL 2.0 and make the ships break up into fragments, implementing a whole physics engine to make explosions unique.
And the answer: Because in the end, this both annoys the users that now have to upgrade their hardware or use dx compatibility to run it on their dx9 cards, and adds nothing to the game except making it looks marginally better. New models for ships takes a fraction of the time and effort and does so much more in terms of that. The rest of the budget can be used on 1) fixing bugs, 2)new features, 3) DUST514 and how it's implemented with eve back end.
tl:dr - Waste of money and time for no benefit
tl:dr:tl:dr - No.
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BrundleMeth
Caldari Temporal Mechanics
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Posted - 2010.06.19 00:05:00 -
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Originally by: Pennwisedom Man, you make a lot of threads with little to no content. Really, why?
Yeah you noticed that too. Between Nooma and Ekrid they keep the forums going with spam and tripe. Something to do while resting up from tossing off sessions...
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Nooma K'Larr
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.19 00:11:00 -
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Originally by: BrundleMeth
Originally by: Pennwisedom Man, you make a lot of threads with little to no content. Really, why?
Yeah you noticed that too. Between Nooma and Ekrid they keep the forums going with spam and tripe. Something to do while resting up from tossing off sessions...
Unlike the gems you have contributed to the forum such as: "Angular Velocity is how fast you can shake it off after a trip to the urinal..."
Take a look at some of the other golden replies from the authority on forum posting.
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