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Vicious Wolf
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Posted - 2010.06.18 20:42:00 -
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enriched uranium is now up to ~25,000 a unit in jita
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2010.06.18 20:44:00 -
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Everybody is making their own POS fuel now. 
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Guilliman R
Gallente
PRO Space Hunters
HUNTER'S BROTHERHOOD
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Posted - 2010.06.18 20:50:00 -
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Think thats the whole point, too many Poses anyway.
Also, htfu. I'm looking at 40bill profits with this, dont ruin it for me! |
Mr LaForge
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Posted - 2010.06.18 21:17:00 -
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Congrats on killing profit for the rest of us on Enriched Uranium. Now everyone will do it.
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Veneth
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Posted - 2010.06.18 21:22:00 -
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 Originally by: Vicious Wolf
enriched uranium is now up to ~25,000 a unit in jita
nice work
where do you people come up with this crap? I'm always near Jita so i checked, it's running 14,942 a unit at the moment. the highest sale price was at 19,999
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Induc
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.06.18 22:27:00 -
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It's not that bad really, since about 50% of the fuel costs comes from ice.
Even with enriched uranium at 22k the cost to run a large pos wouldn't even exceed 300m per month, which is "only" 50% more expensive than pre-tyrannis...
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Jypsie
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Posted - 2010.06.18 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Vicious Wolf
enriched uranium is now up to ~25,000 a unit in jita
nice work
Boom, headsot?
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Wyke Mossari
Gallente
Staner Industries
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Posted - 2010.06.18 22:51:00 -
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Originally by: Induc
It's not that bad really, since about 50% of the fuel costs comes from ice.
Even with enriched uranium at 22k the cost to run a large pos wouldn't even exceed 300m per month, which is "only" 50% more expensive than pre-tyrannis...
And the price of ice products has gone down 30% since the patch.
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Olusegun Obasanjo
Minmatar
CENTRAL BANK OF NIGERIA
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Posted - 2010.06.18 23:03:00 -
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Originally by: Vicious Wolf
enriched uranium is now up to ~25,000 a unit in jita
nice work
give it a few weeks, it will be 2.5 k by then
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Di Mulle
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Posted - 2010.06.18 23:19:00 -
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Originally by: Induc
It's not that bad really, since about 50% of the fuel costs comes from ice.
Even with enriched uranium at 22k the cost to run a large pos wouldn't even exceed 300m per month, which is "only" 50% more expensive than pre-tyrannis...
Before last ice products price drop, other POS fuel was only about 20% of overall expenses. So it is a long way to significant increase of POS keeping price.
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Scout Ops
Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.06.19 00:01:00 -
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It's an intended feature 
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Corrain
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Posted - 2010.06.19 00:06:00 -
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Wow. Since when is a change that you don't care for inherently a mistake on CCP's part? And if I understand your complaint, it is that a product you could easily make for yourself is lucrative?
To be fair, I certainly misjudged how things would play out on enriched uranium. Since it was so expensive historically and is so easy to make, I pictured a glut of it coming online from PI producers. I also pictured POS operators, corps and alliances making their own. I also pictured POS owners stockpiling from orders before NPC orders were pulled. Since it was still plentiful in the 5-6k per range up until early this week.
So, I got out of the market. Never expected that people who needed the stuff badly enough to howl about it in the forums would watch the multi-month slog to Tyrannis, yet refuse to stockpile or setup production for what they need. That, including a post-Tyrannis grace period where NPC orders were kept alive. At least secure enough to get over a couple of weeks market craziness?
My mistake for thinking that every player would take care of so basic a need. Still shocked to see you finding someone to blame other than yourself though, tbh.
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Snabbik Shigen
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Posted - 2010.06.19 01:11:00 -
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When I priced fuel costs a month ago...
L POS = 185M ISK/mo in hi-sec, about 24M of that was the (5) PI-supplied fuels. So about 13% of the cost comes from PI fuels.
So even if PI fuels double in cost to 50M/mo, you're only at 211M ISK/mo for a large tower. Which is about what the fuel bill cost earlier in the year.
(Frankly, I think the PI portion of a L POS fuel bill will end up around 30-35M/mo. Higher then it is now, but not terribly bad.)
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Menkaure
Amarr
LEM0N
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Posted - 2010.06.19 04:10:00 -
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Originally by: Vicious Wolf
enriched uranium is now up to ~25,000 a unit in jita
nice work
The hell it is, most sells atm at 13.8k. You got me all excited cus I thought my stock might of sold.
Guess someone/some people just dumped a large quantity on there in the last few hours.
And don't *****, just make a profit off it!
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Enthral
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Posted - 2010.06.19 06:19:00 -
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Originally by: Vicious Wolf
enriched uranium is now up to ~25,000 a unit in jita
nice work
Apparently, CCP wasn't the only one. Didn't plan ahead, did you? 
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Casmy Blue
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Posted - 2010.06.19 08:32:00 -
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I think there are a lot of unhappy people who didn't have a few billion to pour into the "Hey, look at all these practically free NPC goods that will be really valuable for a short time after NPC orders are removed, I should buy a ton of them" debacle.
Those of us who did have already made a mint. And in a short time, those orders we purchased will have been consumed by a rabid market for starbase goods (and other things), stockpiles will begin to go towards production, and prices will sink to something like normal.
Until then, I'd get to producing.
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Guilliman R
Gallente
PRO Space Hunters
HUNTER'S BROTHERHOOD
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Posted - 2010.06.19 09:38:00 -
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Originally by: Casmy Blue
stockpiles will begin to go towards production, and prices will sink to something like normal.
I beg to differ, prices will rise due to there being a higher demand then supply. I know a lot of people who cba with PI. Sure a lot of pos owners will make their own fuel. But PoS towers and modules and some tier 2 also require PI.
For one, I can see current price doubling/tripling over the next few months. Right now, the impatient/insecure traders are selling their stocks for certain profit, oversupplying the market and driving prices down. And even with them doing this, the prices aren't dropping as fast as I would have guessed. Which could mean demand for PI stuff is higher then first estimated.
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Aramar Morkai
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Posted - 2010.06.19 15:51:00 -
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Edited by: Aramar Morkai on 19/06/2010 15:51:28
Originally by: Guilliman R
I beg to differ, prices will rise due to there being a higher demand then supply. I know a lot of people who cba with PI. Sure a lot of pos owners will make their own fuel. But PoS towers and modules and some tier 2 also require PI.
For one, I can see current price doubling/tripling over the next few months. Right now, the impatient/insecure traders are selling their stocks for certain profit, oversupplying the market and driving prices down. And even with them doing this, the prices aren't dropping as fast as I would have guessed. Which could mean demand for PI stuff is higher then first estimated.
I would have to disagree. A lot of items are way more expensive than they were a few weeks ago. People have paid 360 million isk for a large tower for many years now so I believe the prices will work their way toward the price things were before. Right now large towers are over 500 million.
I can see the opposite over the next few weeks, the doubled/tripled prices will go away and people will start selling things at a reasonable price. A lot of people are gouging the public by charging way too much for their PI components now. Not sure why you said people are driving the price down by over-supplying it then say prices will drop when this stops. Perhaps you confused yourself. Some things will go up, some will go down and I am really hoping the price differential between P# tiers will correct itself so if a certain end product sells for 100 million the components will add up to a little less when sold individually for whichever tier you are working with.
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Casmy Blue
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Posted - 2010.06.19 17:50:00 -
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I'd expect that some things like towers and guns will remain much higher than they ever were before, which will encourage most 0.0 alliances who use them to create their own supply chains.
There are a lot of items that were previously sold by NPCs (I won't get into which ones, specifically) that are now a lot more difficult and more profitable to make as a player. I don't think you will ever see any of those items at their NPC-sold prices ever again. I'm pretty sure those market values are gone forever.
Some POS items are going to see a permanent price increase, which I think is sort of a side-effect of having players create these things on their own. They were all really cheap before because they had unlimited supply and an effortless creation and distribution method.
The question is, should they cost more now that there's player time and effort required to create them? The market prices are saying yes.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2010.06.19 19:24:00 -
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The question is, should they cost more now that there's player time and effort required to create them? The market prices are saying yes.
During years and years of gameplay dilution, the players have become able to farm money multiple times than they were in the beginning. It's just of consequence to update the prices and align them with the easy modern times.
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