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Forum Foreplay
Gallente Federation
35
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Posted - 2012.07.17 21:34:00 -
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j/k 
Seriously, I don't think cammo belongs on spaceships. Space ships are not tracked visually, they are tracked via scanners and scanners are not fooled by paint 
It just doesn't belong and I can't understand why we are getting more. Obviously someone at CCP thinks it is cool, which it is not, but why do they have to subject us to this?
Go spray paint your car 
Cammo makes me not want to play, I enjoy the visual aspect, have the graphics maxed and have a nice computer, all that to see a paint job that can be done with a can of Rustoleum?. 
Even a sandbox has borders to keep the sand inside...
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Mallak Azaria
331
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Posted - 2012.07.17 21:36:00 -
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We really don't need graphics at all in a spead sheet game. Everything can be tracked on the real-time spread sheet (overview).
Remove all graphics. |

Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
548
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Posted - 2012.07.17 21:37:00 -
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Screw you, I like my digi black Raven. |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2080
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Posted - 2012.07.17 21:37:00 -
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Camo. As in camouflage. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Traejun DiSanctis
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2012.07.17 21:39:00 -
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Yay, another thread complaining about camo paint schemes on ships.
I will respond the same way I always do...
1. I kind of like the digital camo. 2. Paint schemes really don't matter...at all. 3. If you don't like camo... a. Zoom out far enough to not see it. b. Don't buy that ship.
Thank you. |

Charles Baker
Federal Mineral Acquisition
63
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Posted - 2012.07.17 21:39:00 -
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Gallente Navy Issues were always Camo'd |

Forum Foreplay
Gallente Federation
35
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Posted - 2012.07.17 21:41:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Camo. As in camouflage.
Internet as in, dont care? Even a sandbox has borders to keep the sand inside...
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Dorian Wylde
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
119
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Posted - 2012.07.17 21:45:00 -
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Forum Foreplay wrote:j/k  Seriously, I don't think cammo belongs on spaceships. Space ships are not tracked visually, they are tracked via scanners and scanners are not fooled by paint 
You're right, that's why the paint doesn't matter. So they paint it something they think looks cool, or intimidating, or reflects military culture.
Answered your own question there, genius.
EDIT: Should probably clarify that paint does in fact affect electro-optical scanners, but since only Amarr use them it's a moot point for overall EVE balance. |

Sarah Atkinson
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2012.07.17 21:55:00 -
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I wonder how much paint they must go through, considering the size of some of these ships.. we're not talking trucks, planes, tanks or boats here.. we're talking some ships 4-8 miles long.. |

Virgil Travis
GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated
453
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Posted - 2012.07.17 22:10:00 -
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It's not paint, it's secret sauce. Lick your ship and see. Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method Mamma didn't raise no victims. |
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Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2082
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Posted - 2012.07.17 22:17:00 -
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Forum Foreplay wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Camo. As in camouflage. Internet as in, dont care?
Loll if yu talk bad peppl wil taek u srsly. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Grumpymunky
Super Monkey Tribe of Danger
333
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Posted - 2012.07.17 22:22:00 -
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I want dazzle camo! Post with your monkey. |

CyberRaver
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
8
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Posted - 2012.07.17 22:26:00 -
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In any fight, there is always jamming, targetting and sensor failures etc etc, so hell being able to NOT see the ship your firing blindly at is a good idea regardless |

Forum Foreplay
Gallente Federation
38
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Posted - 2012.07.17 22:30:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Forum Foreplay wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Camo. As in camouflage. Internet as in, dont care? Loll if yu talk bad peppl wil taek u srsly.
People from all over the world post on these forums, good luck with your spelling bee
Even a sandbox has borders to keep the sand inside...
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Soi Mala
Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen
118
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Posted - 2012.07.17 22:31:00 -
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Space forests everywhere.
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Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2082
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Posted - 2012.07.17 22:39:00 -
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Forum Foreplay wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Forum Foreplay wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Camo. As in camouflage. Internet as in, dont care? Loll if yu talk bad peppl wil taek u srsly. People from all over the world post on these forums, good luck with your spelling bee
Creeme, yo estoy bien consciente de eso.
Also, this. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Arkturus McFadden
Sonoran Shadow Black Mesa Complex
115
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Posted - 2012.07.17 22:54:00 -
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Don't you just love when a cloaky has a camouflage paint job? It's a super cloaky. |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1674
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Posted - 2012.07.17 22:58:00 -
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The paint works in the same manner the paint on the B-2 Spirit bomber works, I think that paint costs like $5m a gallon  |

Viktor Fyretracker
Emminent Terraforming
44
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Posted - 2012.07.17 23:01:00 -
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I think most ship design is about looks. in space there is no logical design limits. on the oceans you have designs that are simply better ships than others and sometimes they look cool(such as the Iowa Class Battleship.) EVE is like swimming on a beach in shark infested waters,-á There is however a catch...-á The EVE Beach you also have to wonder which fellow swimmer will try and eat you before the sharks. |

Blade N'Mare
Hard Rock University En Garde
28
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Posted - 2012.07.17 23:15:00 -
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WTB - Rifter with harlequin paint, chrome highlights, tinted windows. Will pay extra for FULLY SIK red velour interior. "Light a candle for the Sinners.-á Set the World on Fire." |
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Soi Mala
Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen
118
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Posted - 2012.07.17 23:49:00 -
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why don't they build ships that look like asteroids? |

Tarn Kugisa
Bugaboo and some Pew Pew
91
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Posted - 2012.07.18 00:32:00 -
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Soi Mala wrote:why don't they build ships that look like asteroids?
I GOT POPPED FOR MINING AN ASTEROID! WTF CONCORD!!  I Endorse this Product and/or Service [url]https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=16580[/url] |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1674
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Posted - 2012.07.18 00:33:00 -
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Tarn Kugisa wrote:Soi Mala wrote:why don't they build ships that look like asteroids? I GOT POPPED FOR MINING AN ASTEROID! WTF CONCORD!! 
Hulkageddon would have even more lulz 
Hidden belts that fight back  |

Terminal Insanity
The Filthy Ones
642
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Posted - 2012.07.18 00:42:00 -
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interestingly, Dust armors and vehicles dont have any camo. "War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP |

Large Collidable Object
morons.
1707
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Posted - 2012.07.18 00:44:00 -
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Space Camo makes sense... You know... morons. |

Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
639
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Posted - 2012.07.18 02:02:00 -
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Terminal Insanity wrote:interestingly, Dust armors and vehicles dont have any camo.
Nanites only come in gun metal black. |

Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
367
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Posted - 2012.07.18 07:48:00 -
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Forum Foreplay wrote:j/k  Seriously, I don't think cammo belongs on spaceships. Space ships are not tracked visually, they are tracked via scanners and scanners are not fooled by paint  It just doesn't belong and I can't understand why we are getting more. Obviously someone at CCP thinks it is cool, which it is not, but why do they have to subject us to this? Go spray paint your car  Cammo makes me not want to play, I enjoy the visual aspect, have the graphics maxed and have a nice computer, all that to see a paint job that can be done with a can of Rustoleum?. 
I think my Navy Issue Dominix is much easier on the eye than my regular Domi.
Cammo stays. You want fries with that? |

Bunnie Hop
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
239
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Posted - 2012.07.18 08:03:00 -
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Camo is not just for dust bunnies, we space bunnies enjoy our camo as well...makes us feel all ninja like.  |

dexington
Lysergic.acid.diethylamide
54
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Posted - 2012.07.18 08:21:00 -
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Forum Foreplay wrote:Seriously, I don't think cammo belongs on spaceships. Space ships are not tracked visually, they are tracked via scanners and scanners are not fooled by paint 
Dust 514 suggest ground combat still exist in the eve universe, cadpat tw coloring may at some point have been a dominating military symbol, like it currently is in real life. Even if it do not serves any practical purpose on space ships it may just be there for historical reasons, showing that the ship is a military ship.
With the nanotechnology available in the eve universe, it probably not harder to paint camouflage then any single color, and as you say yourself the color don't really matter, so why not use camouflage on military ships? |

Halete
Echoes of Korgoth Initiative
308
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Posted - 2012.07.18 09:16:00 -
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What if... NANITES... made with SLEEPER TECH were planted by the JOVE in the paint to make camo jobs less susceptible to targeting systems.
That excuse seems to work pretty well for every other plot-hole / deus ex machina. Dirty heretical mud-child, reporting in. |
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Serena Serene
Selective Hearing Nearly Feared
1465
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Posted - 2012.07.18 09:34:00 -
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Forum Foreplay wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Camo. As in camouflage. Internet as in, dont care?
Someone bothered to make you aware of a mistake you made. In a not unfriendly manner. Instead of being thankful for the opportunity to improve yourself, you start bitching. :( |

Planetmaster
Weekenders
10
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Posted - 2012.07.18 10:47:00 -
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Forum Foreplay wrote:j/k  Seriously, I don't think cammo belongs on spaceships. Space ships are not tracked visually, they are tracked via scanners and scanners are not fooled by paint  It just doesn't belong and I can't understand why we are getting more. Obviously someone at CCP thinks it is cool, which it is not, but why do they have to subject us to this? Go spray paint your car  Cammo makes me not want to play, I enjoy the visual aspect, have the graphics maxed and have a nice computer, all that to see a paint job that can be done with a can of Rustoleum?. 
Someone is too old to work in computer game industry :) Camo was cool years ago :) |

Vilnius Zar
Ordo Ardish
86
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Posted - 2012.07.18 11:05:00 -
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People defending space camo are hilarious, it serves no other purpose than "easy texture to create and to hide imperfections in the ship design". There's no space-logic where camo would make sense, it's just lazy design. Amat victoria curam. |

Aruken Marr
BSC LEGION Tactical Narcotics Team
210
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Posted - 2012.07.18 11:09:00 -
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I've always preferred the term DPM.
It's just an aesthetic that separates the different factions and their civilian ships. I actually quite like some of the digital stuff. |

Cede Forster
Graffa
8
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Posted - 2012.07.18 13:19:00 -
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Imagine you would order a real spaceship, out of a catalog ... because you are rich and spaceships now get sold it catalogs.
And they offer three versions, regular, "camouflage" or "hello kitty paintjob" which one would you order?
Also: Why does the space shuttle have an american flag on it and writing saying "United states of America" if only the US have a space shuttle. Due to the unique shape it very unlikely it gets mistaken for something else if you are close enough to read it. I think people just like to paint there spaceships |

Taurich Vorsel
15
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Posted - 2012.07.18 13:23:00 -
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Showed a friend EVE today, flew around my fleetpest for abit
First thing he asked was if I was going to hunt 'space leopards' in the 'space jungle', he thought the jungle camo would greatly help me blend in.
Then I showed him the serpentis/boundless paintjob and he just started laughing Copine Callmeknau disappeared one day now we are left with Taurich Vorsel AKA BIZARRO COPE! |

Robus Muvila
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
38
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Posted - 2012.07.18 13:26:00 -
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Eve Should Be Text Based. |

Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
550
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Posted - 2012.07.18 14:06:00 -
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Vilnius Zar wrote:People defending space camo are hilarious, it serves no other purpose than "easy texture to create and to hide imperfections in the ship design". There's no space-logic where camo would make sense, it's just lazy design.
I defend camo because I am a certified redneck and camo is our official color(s). |

Sarmea Moon
Universal Freelance CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
16
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Posted - 2012.07.18 14:15:00 -
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Vilnius Zar wrote:People defending space camo are hilarious, it serves no other purpose than "easy texture to create and to hide imperfections in the ship design". There's no space-logic where camo would make sense, it's just lazy design.
No space logic?
*drags in the real world* *winces*
Why in the hell did I have to wear a bright freaking red white and blue patch on my "camouflage" real life uniform? And yes, we wore non desert camo in a desert- don't ask for freakin' logic. We outprocessed through the main post in Baghdad, and they even had people wearing bright orange road guard vests- don't get me started on stupidity......
Why do air force planes (from the time before we even had an air force) paint all sorts of designs on their noses/sides? We had the bombshell beauties, and others painted shark's teeth.
Yes, I want a bright pink BunBun painted on my Shiva Tank for ground combat- and I don't care who likes it! I want my camo in dark pink and purple for the background. There's your justification- cause I like camo, that's why!! |

Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
2509
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Posted - 2012.07.18 14:17:00 -
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Taurich Vorsel wrote:Showed a friend EVE today, flew around my fleetpest for abit
First thing he asked was if I was going to hunt 'space leopards' in the 'space jungle', he thought the jungle camo would greatly help me blend in.
Then I showed him the serpentis/boundless paintjob and he just started laughing
I'm with your friend. EVE looks technically fantastic and continues to improve, but some of the artistic choices are just god awful/laughable and seem to get worse. I can't wait to get custom paintjobs on the ships, so I never have to look at another lazy ass designers camo paintjob atrocity ever again. |
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highonpop
Void.Tech Fatal Ascension
140
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Posted - 2012.07.18 14:19:00 -
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Why paint the ships different colors at all? Why should caldari be grey and gallente be green? why have any colors? why is EVE not in black and white?
I am disappoint SEE YOU IN 319 STATION!!! WOOO HOOOO!!!!! |

Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
550
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Posted - 2012.07.18 14:24:00 -
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Sarmea Moon wrote:
Why do air force planes (from the time before we even had an air force) paint all sorts of designs on their noses/sides? We had the bombshell beauties, and others painted shark's teeth.
Confirming I want sharks teeth on my Domi & Mega |

Miles Parabellum
The Grindmonkeys
22
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Posted - 2012.07.18 14:29:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:We really don't need graphics at all in a spead sheet game. Everything can be tracked on the real-time spread sheet (overview).
Remove all graphics.
Golden comment, this one. Made me 
Anyway, the paint jobs are a matter of subjective taste. Personally, I think painting navy issues in camo as well as more exotic paint jobs for the exotic ships is really cool.
Best of all would be a paint shop like in the Need For Speed-series. I'd never leave my computer again (except maybe during DT to get food and take a p!ss). |

Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
368
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Posted - 2012.07.18 14:36:00 -
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Vilnius Zar wrote:People defending space camo are hilarious, it serves no other purpose than "easy texture to create and to hide imperfections in the ship design". There's no space-logic where camo would make sense, it's just lazy design.
I do not disagree good Sir.
But for now, leave my Navy Domi as it is.
My original Domi is a poorly defined, indistinctly coloured, space blob.
Perhaps one day CCP will give the original Domi more detail and improve the colour contrast. You want fries with that? |

Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
368
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Posted - 2012.07.18 14:38:00 -
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highonpop wrote:Why paint the ships different colors at all? Why should caldari be grey and gallente be green? why have any colors? why is EVE not in black and white?
I am disappoint
You seem to have a simplistic black and white view on this colourful issue Sir. You want fries with that? |

FloppieTheBanjoClown
New Eden Asteroid Preservation Society
1954
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Posted - 2012.07.18 14:43:00 -
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Forum Foreplay wrote:Seriously, I don't think cammo belongs on spaceships. Space ships are not tracked visually, they are tracked via scanners and scanners are not fooled by paint  obviously gray camo doesn't work in space. maybe the out-of-place paint jobs are just their way of saying "we know the paint doesn't matter, so we had some fun with it. lol space camo!" The Skunkworks is recruiting. -áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1540711#post1540711 |

Marconus Orion
Massive PVPness
221
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Posted - 2012.07.18 15:03:00 -
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Bring back the old navy mega paint scheme! |

Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
368
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Posted - 2012.07.18 20:51:00 -
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Robus Muvila wrote:Eve Should Be Text Based.
It would seem that you pretty much have your wish You want fries with that? |

Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
553
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Posted - 2012.07.18 21:49:00 -
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Yarr |

Nylith Empyreal
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
123
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Posted - 2012.07.18 21:50:00 -
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You know they v3'd stuff for paint schemes right? you could I dunno... change them? when they finally come out. Honestly options should be high with or without camo.
I DEMAND TIE-DIE. "Oh, you can't help that," said the troll: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" -ásaid the forumwarrior. "You must be," said the troll, "or you wouldn't have come here." |
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