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Nexnecis Umbra Amarr Cereopsis Novaehollandiae	Posted - 2010.06.20 06:23:00 - [1] Edited by: Nexnecis Umbra on 20/06/2010 06:23:04 Hi was just wondering if anyone knows what the average SP level is, I'm currently sitting on 43mill SP and wanted to know if that was high/average/low Can anyone help me out?
omgevenmoarfreemoniez	Posted - 2010.06.20 06:24:00 - [2] Low.
dankness420	Posted - 2010.06.20 06:26:00 - [3] Having a lot of SP doesn't matter unless its all focuses into a couple ships...
eliminator2 Gallente	Posted - 2010.06.20 06:39:00 - [4] Originally by: dankness420 Having a lot of SP doesn't matter unless its all focuses into a couple ships... i have all 4 races specced in gal and amarr nearly for min (my spec is for bs mostly but am specced for some smaller ships) caldari i dnt use missiles just use rohk :D and i only have 47 mill :D ----------------------------------------------- I met Eliminator1..... I chewed it up, and spat it out. Now, he is my minion. I kill miners and mission runners people say, I call them target pra
Nexnecis Umbra Amarr Cereopsis Novaehollandiae	Posted - 2010.06.20 06:40:00 - [5] Edited by: Nexnecis Umbra on 20/06/2010 06:41:02 =/ Was hoping for average but I'll take what I can get. And I don't think I'm too spread out. http://eveboard.com/pilot/Nexnecis_Umbra
Terrax Norik	Posted - 2010.06.20 06:48:00 - [6] Originally by: Nexnecis Umbra Edited by: Nexnecis Umbra on 20/06/2010 06:41:02 =/ Was hoping for average but I'll take what I can get. And I don't think I'm too spread out. http://eveboard.com/pilot/Nexnecis_Umbra You should consider getting HAC V and Recon V sometime.
Batolemaeus Caldari Vauryndar Dalharil	Posted - 2010.06.20 07:02:00 - [7] Average SP was mentioned in a QEN some time ago. It was way below 20m iirc. Also, the data won't tell much about the current situation. Customer retention has worsened a lot for CCP, so the average SP will have dropped significantly.
Nika Dekaia	Posted - 2010.06.20 07:26:00 - [8] Originally by: Batolemaeus Average SP was mentioned in a QEN some time ago. It was way below 20m iirc. Also, the data won't tell much about the current situation. Customer retention has worsened a lot for CCP, so the average SP will have dropped significantly. Yeah. It's not like we had a new PCU two weeks ago.
Qolde Minmatar art of eve Gunmen of the Apocalypse	Posted - 2010.06.20 07:34:00 - [9] Originally by: Nika Dekaia Originally by: Batolemaeus Average SP was mentioned in a QEN some time ago. It was way below 20m iirc. Also, the data won't tell much about the current situation. Customer retention has worsened a lot for CCP, so the average SP will have dropped significantly. Yeah. It's not like we had a new PCU two weeks ago. I did just start a third account. Theres a guy who has like 10 characters who's names all start with a z and are all spelling variations on the same thing. I've been ganked by a guy who claims to have 10 accounts. I know quite a few people with 3 accounts, most people have at least 2. Eve has like 2k real people playing it, they just keep buying new accounts. WHO THE HELL SELLS PLEXES JEEZ! Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
Sergei Le'Poof	Posted - 2010.06.20 07:37:00 - [10] Originally by: Nika Dekaia Originally by: Batolemaeus Average SP was mentioned in a QEN some time ago. It was way below 20m iirc. Also, the data won't tell much about the current situation. Customer retention has worsened a lot for CCP, so the average SP will have dropped significantly. Yeah. It's not like we had a new PCU two weeks ago. Worsening customer retention can be happening alongside a growing customer base. These two are not mutually exclusive. And a declining retention rate really bad news even coupled with faster growth. The cost to acquire a new player/customer can be around 7 times higher than retaining one. And guess what will happen to that new customer very soon....

dexington	Posted - 2010.06.20 08:35:00 - [11] Originally by: Nika Dekaia Originally by: Batolemaeus Average SP was mentioned in a QEN some time ago. It was way below 20m iirc. Also, the data won't tell much about the current situation. Customer retention has worsened a lot for CCP, so the average SP will have dropped significantly. Yeah. It's not like we had a new PCU two weeks ago. you know it's down hill for an mmo when the player numbers drop in the summer months, normally that's when they are booming. Signature removed for not being EVE related. Zymurgist
Mashie Saldana Red Federation	Posted - 2010.06.20 09:00:00 - [12] Originally by: dexington you know it's down hill for an mmo when the player numbers drop in the summer months, normally that's when they are booming. Nice troll 1/10.
Aclyn Seriy Gallente Hollow World Mining Corporation	Posted - 2010.06.20 09:12:00 - [13] Originally by: Nexnecis Umbra Edited by: Nexnecis Umbra on 20/06/2010 06:23:04 Hi was just wondering if anyone knows what the average SP level is, I'm currently sitting on 43mill SP and wanted to know if that was high/average/low Can anyone help me out? I don't normally pass judgment on other people's skills but I couldn't help it. I see you have spent isk and time training things like Logistics, Marauders and Recon ships, yet you don't appear to have any real skills to go with them. I would seriously suggest you dont train anymore ships and instead start training some of your engineering, mechanic and gunnery skills. 47 million sp is all well and good, but when its 47 million mostly pointless sp you might as well not have bothered tbh Originally by: Slinkus Gallentus They're actually in free fall but they keep missing the earth.
Kievan Ariskana Minmatar	Posted - 2010.06.20 09:45:00 - [14] Your lack of learning skills disturbs me.
AsaR Amarr Haggor Inc	Posted - 2010.06.20 09:49:00 - [15] Originally by: dankness420 Having a lot of SP doesn't matter unless its all focuses into a couple ships... Agree with this, I have around 80mil only fly amarr, but BS, HAC, Recon, CS all have maxed 100% skills. I have just started cross training and getting Curiser 5 on gal and min (since I got CS, HACs, Recon at 5) but well i am so far behind on other races weapons i feel its going to take a year or so to get good with new ships. Point being, sp dont really matter that much and those with high skill points only really have a fraction advantage ---------- ----
Obyrith	Posted - 2010.06.20 10:07:00 - [16] Edited by: Obyrith on 20/06/2010 10:07:54 Originally by: Sergei Le'Poof Worsening customer retention can be happening alongside a growing customer base. These two are not mutually exclusive. And a declining retention rate really bad news even coupled with faster growth. The cost to acquire a new player/customer can be around 7 times higher than retaining one. And guess what will happen to that new customer very soon.... For Eve there's probably a fairly simple explanation. The total MMO market is a certain size. The older Eve gets, the larger % of the total market have already tried to get into Eve, and either become long-term subscribers or quit. As Eve is ultra-user-unfriendly, that translates into a smaller and smaller percentage of new subscribers being the kind of person who could ever get into it in the first place. If they could they'd be playing already. Add the fact that the older the game gets the more long-term players leave, and you get a pretty good explanation for why CCP is keen to develope a console extension of their IP aimed at a seperate, younger market.
Indimiel	Posted - 2010.06.20 10:45:00 - [17] Originally by: Obyrith The total MMO market is a certain size. This may surprise you but new people are born every day, and some of those eventually get into MMOs.
Shintai Gallente Arx Io Orbital Factories Arx Io	Posted - 2010.06.20 10:45:00 - [18] Unlikely popular beliefs. SP amount doesnt reallt matter much. A 5mio SP character can easily beat a 125mio one. Also having say 100mio SP doesnt even mean you are good at anything really. It all depends on focus and how good YOU actually are. -------------------------------------- Abstraction and Transcendence: Nature, Shintai, and Geometry
Napro Caldari Buccaneers of New Eden	Posted - 2010.06.20 11:04:00 - [19] I'd love to see a 5m SP toon try and take out my Phoenix, I really would
dexington	Posted - 2010.06.20 11:17:00 - [20] Originally by: Indimiel Originally by: Obyrith The total MMO market is a certain size. This may surprise you but new people are born every day, and some of those eventually get into MMOs. And others stop playing mmo's... Signature removed for not being EVE related. Zymurgist

Hugh Hefner Caldari Paxton Industries -Mostly Harmless-	Posted - 2010.06.20 11:27:00 - [21] Originally by: dexington Originally by: Nika Dekaia Originally by: Batolemaeus Average SP was mentioned in a QEN some time ago. It was way below 20m iirc. Also, the data won't tell much about the current situation. Customer retention has worsened a lot for CCP, so the average SP will have dropped significantly. Yeah. It's not like we had a new PCU two weeks ago. you know it's down hill for an mmo when the player numbers drop in the summer months, normally that's when they are booming. This is because EvE Online has a much older clientFle in general, so when ordinary MMO's gamers gets time off from school and can play all day EvE Online-gamers get vacation from work and is sadly(=P) expected to spend that time with their family =)
Obyrith	Posted - 2010.06.20 11:34:00 - [22] Originally by: Indimiel Originally by: Obyrith The total MMO market is a certain size. This may surprise you but new people are born every day, and some of those eventually get into MMOs. Yeah, you fail at understanding how demographics work. Remember, we're talking about a change in the retention rate.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2010.06.20 11:36:00 - [23] Originally by: Batolemaeus Average SP was mentioned in a QEN some time ago. It was way below 20m iirc. Also, the data won't tell much about the current situation. Customer retention has worsened a lot for CCP, so the average SP will have dropped significantly. Of course, it could also have the opposite effect: fewer people stick around, so only a bunch of high-SP people contribute to the average, thus driving it up. That said, do you have a source for that? ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki

CCP Navigator C C P C C P Alliance	Posted - 2010.06.20 11:52:00 - [24] Moved from General Discussion to Skill Discussion. Navigator Senior Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online

Grez M. Corp Daisho Syndicate	Posted - 2010.06.20 12:11:00 - [25] I'd consider 60m average. I consider myself just above: http://eveboard.com/pilot/Grez ---
Niccolado Starwalker Gallente Shadow Templars	Posted - 2010.06.20 14:40:00 - [26] Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 20/06/2010 14:46:41 Originally by: Nexnecis Umbra Edited by: Nexnecis Umbra on 20/06/2010 06:23:04 Hi was just wondering if anyone knows what the average SP level is, I'm currently sitting on 43mill SP and wanted to know if that was high/average/low Can anyone help me out? Trying again.. Lets see, a character with 43500000 xp is ranked as 4448 (aprox) on eve board of the 15353 registered users. So if we use this: 4448 x 100 / 15353 = 28,9 % You should be among the 30% best on EveBoard I think? Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL.
worknowplz	Posted - 2010.06.20 17:50:00 - [27] Originally by: Aclyn Seriy Originally by: Nexnecis Umbra Edited by: Nexnecis Umbra on 20/06/2010 06:23:04 Hi was just wondering if anyone knows what the average SP level is, I'm currently sitting on 43mill SP and wanted to know if that was high/average/low Can anyone help me out? I don't normally pass judgment on other people's skills but I couldn't help it. I see you have spent isk and time training things like Logistics, Marauders and Recon ships, yet you don't appear to have any real skills to go with them. I would seriously suggest you dont train anymore ships and instead start training some of your engineering, mechanic and gunnery skills. 47 million sp is all well and good, but when its 47 million mostly pointless sp you might as well not have bothered tbh =/ I'll admit my Ewar skills are terrible. But with Logistics I fly a guardian. The only real way I see of improving my abilities in it are logistics V and Remote Armor repairing V so I would really consider that a waste. Whats wrong with my gunnery skills? Engineering I'm lacking in shield skills and I'm working on fixing that.
Drykor Minmatar Aperture Harmonics K162	Posted - 2010.06.21 20:08:00 - [28] Edited by: Drykor on 21/06/2010 20:09:05 43M is way above average considering the amount of people that only play for a couple of months. But who cares anyway, at 43M SP you should be able to do most things you like, sure you can still improve but not like you need to hurry. Your learning skills are poor though.
Xai Rayna	Posted - 2010.06.21 20:37:00 - [29] OVER 9000!!!!!!
Socio Stan	Posted - 2010.06.22 00:27:00 - [30] Why does it matter to you whether you are above or below average in total SP? I never looked at my SP like that. My thought process for evaluating my chars has always been more like: 1) What ships can I fly, and what ships do I want this char to fly? 2) Does my SP allow me to fly those ships to within x percentage of their full potential? If not, fix that. You can fly a bunch of stuff in a bunch of different roles right now. You've got a few areas where you can get good improvements quickly, like armor comps, gun specs, and thermodynamics to 4. But other than that I don't see why you would be unhappy with where you're at. You can fly a bunch of stuff. And you can fly it all well enough, from frig to BS, for SP not to be an excuse for failure in PvP.



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