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gDoctor Stangelove
suspended animations DOT None Of The Above
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Posted - 2012.07.18 21:13:00 -
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GoonWaffe is for SA. GoonSwarm have pubbie corps. Pubbie corps accept J4G's and other players they believe not to be obvious spies all the time.
Spies they also let join, and they get to move their expensive ships to VFK.
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Gaellia Bonaventure
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
390
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Posted - 2012.07.18 21:31:00 -
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There needs to be a link to the parable of the Frog and the Scorpion along with that "Goons 'R Helpful" link. Bring your possibles. |

Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
1013
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Posted - 2012.07.18 21:34:00 -
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I think a newbie accepting a Goonfleet invite (after they pay the 500m isk application fee) is a VERY educational process for the newbie. |

School Nickname Worldmonkey
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
36
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Posted - 2012.07.18 21:55:00 -
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In a fight vs goons, generally, just looking at the killmail of a goon you just toasted you will learn a lot about a vital part of PvP fighting, (at least for nullsec PvP) which is fitting your ship correctly. An astute observer will note that barring meta-levels and utility highs, goon ship fittings for particular ships will be almost exactly the same. Goons are strongly encouraged to fly standardised fittings for gangs and this is because these are intelligent fittings to use, fittings which have proven their worth and are worthy of generous reimbursement. Ill-conceived or frankly ******** fittings for certain ships are denied reimbursement and every lossmail of goons is looked over by a ~team of experts~. Of course this doesn't mean that one has to fly a certain fitting for their special snowflake cynabal or dramiel, but the fit has to make sense and you have to get the most out of the fit. This is why we generally laugh at most pubbies' fittings for their ships. A lot of the time they're either complete overkill and destined to be ganked by 50 rifters or they're missing high/mid/low slots for some bizarre reason.
The private goon wiki has multiple pvp fittings (far better than EVE uni fittings) for every ship with a brief note on what it's good (and bad) for. Pubbies are simply maddened with jealously, knowing that they will never have access to the Akashic Records of EVE that so many goon newbies have access to, (and never achieve enlightenment with) because they passed the reading comprehension test. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
367
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Posted - 2012.07.18 21:56:00 -
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Blawrf McTaggart wrote:We do have the greatest EVE-related wiki that has been ever created, which holds a metric ****-ton of information - a lot of which is publicly accessible.
We are a very helpful organisation. A lot of the pages are only accessible by logging in, and when I tried to log in it said the special page doesn't exist. Meh, whatever. EVE's 4th of July Fireworks |

Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
244
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Posted - 2012.07.18 22:05:00 -
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School Nickname Worldmonkey wrote:The private goon wiki has multiple pvp fittings (far better than EVE uni fittings) for every ship with a brief note on what it's good (and bad) for. Pubbies are simply maddened with jealously, knowing that they will never have access to the Akashic Records of EVE that so many goon newbies have access to, (and never achieve enlightenment with) because they passed the reading comprehension test. somehow the arcane secrets of the goon wiki seem to make it into the search results for almost any eve-related google query not just through one but through two different site mirrors... |

Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
763
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Posted - 2012.07.18 22:22:00 -
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Beekeeper Bob wrote:Tarsus Zateki wrote:Galizur Zageban wrote:yay... goon supremism  Buck up champ, we forced Nulli out of null-sec and into your faction. They're pretty good. Just to clarify. Endless isk from a broken Moon-goo update ran Nulli out of 0.0. Please don't harbor the thought that skill or capability had anything to do with it. If you actually had to fight with the possibiliy of losing ships and not having the isk to replace them...you'd still be hiding in some dark corner of EvE. 
Look at this guy knowing nothing about our history. You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world. |

Bommel McMurdoc
East Khanid Trading Khanid Trade Syndicate
6
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Posted - 2012.07.18 22:24:00 -
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wow... this whole thread cries "CONSPIRACY THEORY!"
(puts on tin foil hat) |

Harold Tuphlos
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
70
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Posted - 2012.07.18 22:32:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Blawrf McTaggart wrote:We do have the greatest EVE-related wiki that has been ever created, which holds a metric ****-ton of information - a lot of which is publicly accessible.
We are a very helpful organisation. A lot of the pages are only accessible by logging in, and when I tried to log in it said the special page doesn't exist. Meh, whatever.
I hear you are bad at auth and at logging in to the proper site before going to the wiki? |

YuuKnow
372
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Posted - 2012.07.18 22:39:00 -
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-1 for CCP |

Y'nit Gidrine
Gold Horizons Industrial
7
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Posted - 2012.07.18 23:31:00 -
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Actually, Goonswarm is one of the most new player friendly, and most helpful alliances out there. IFF you join through the appropriate channels. They have a very useful, publicly available wiki, and have many instructional videos on youtube.
Historically speaking, while other alliances would shun newer players, Goonswarm would embrace their newer players. The trick is actually joining them. |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1357
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Posted - 2012.07.18 23:35:00 -
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Beekeeper Bob wrote:Just to clarify. Endless isk from a broken Moon-goo update ran Nulli out of 0.0. Please don't harbor the thought that skill or capability had anything to do with it. If you actually had to fight with the possibiliy of losing ships and not having the isk to replace them...you'd still be hiding in some dark corner of EvE. 
just to clarify
we were poor for most of our existence and were never rich until after Delve II
then we were poor again after we went back to Syndicate
and we're rich again a rogue goon |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1357
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Posted - 2012.07.18 23:36:00 -
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also is anyone here aware that that is a wiki page?
you know the great thing about a wiki? a rogue goon |

EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
163
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Posted - 2012.07.19 00:14:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:also is anyone here aware that that is a wiki page?
you know the great thing about a wiki? It would be vandalism to remove that 100% accurate entry |

BearJews
Reroute .to. Remain
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Posted - 2012.07.19 00:35:00 -
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This is a classic case of why politics shouldn't be part of a good education. |

Janeos
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.19 02:34:00 -
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How can you say we're not helpful? Aside of the wiki, look how helpful this page is: http://hulkageddon5.machine9.net/?page_id=7
It's even got a helpful video! |

MinefieldS
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
56
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Posted - 2012.07.19 03:05:00 -
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Yatama Kautsuo wrote:Today I noticed for the first time the little icon in the launcher saying: "Player Organisations - Helpful Corps ingame" Man, had I a laugh when i saw goonswarm in this list as well... That's pretty bad for new players isn't it CCP? I mean i always find the ZOMG GOONSWARM STOLE MY SECURITY DEPOSIT threads funny and everyone who doesn't 0 research does deserve it, but a newer player may trust (I know, right?) an official "Helpful Corps" list... especially coming from CCP... So CCP please for the love of noob delete them from the list.  Umm they are 100x more helpful than the eve-unibears. |

Commit Sudoku
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
76
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Posted - 2012.07.19 04:14:00 -
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ohayo onii-chan~ guy on foreground: me posting guy in background: you |

Orzo Torasson
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
35
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Posted - 2012.07.19 04:43:00 -
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Boudicca Arbosa wrote:Tarsus Zateki wrote:The filthy pubbie masses are really scraping the bottom of the barrel if this is all they can come up with to whine about Goons these days. The filthy Goonswarm masses are really scraping the bottom of the barrel if they think anyone here really cares enough to think they're relevant still.
The very fact that you obviously care enough to post your unabashed bitterness right here for all to see indicates that they are probably correct. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
376
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Posted - 2012.07.19 07:17:00 -
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Harold Tuphlos wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Blawrf McTaggart wrote:We do have the greatest EVE-related wiki that has been ever created, which holds a metric ****-ton of information - a lot of which is publicly accessible.
We are a very helpful organisation. A lot of the pages are only accessible by logging in, and when I tried to log in it said the special page doesn't exist. Meh, whatever. I hear you are bad at auth and at logging in to the proper site before going to the wiki? Also the test wiki is bad because test is too lazy to to update theirs when they can just use the goonwiki. I have to go through goonfleet auth? What a convoluted system just to use a wiki. EVE's 4th of July Fireworks |

Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
1013
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Posted - 2012.07.19 07:31:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Harold Tuphlos wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Blawrf McTaggart wrote:We do have the greatest EVE-related wiki that has been ever created, which holds a metric ****-ton of information - a lot of which is publicly accessible.
We are a very helpful organisation. A lot of the pages are only accessible by logging in, and when I tried to log in it said the special page doesn't exist. Meh, whatever. I hear you are bad at auth and at logging in to the proper site before going to the wiki? Also the test wiki is bad because test is too lazy to to update theirs when they can just use the goonwiki. I have to go through goonfleet auth? What a convoluted system just to use a wiki.
This is because the Goonfleet wiki uses the same login information as the Goonfleet Forums. It makes sense in context. |

Caitlyn Tufy
Refuge of Hope Lemniskate
13
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Posted - 2012.07.19 07:59:00 -
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Yatama Kautsuo wrote:Today I noticed for the first time the little icon in the launcher saying: "Player Organisations - Helpful Corps ingame" Man, had I a laugh when i saw goonswarm in this list as well... That's pretty bad for new players isn't it CCP? I mean i always find the ZOMG GOONSWARM STOLE MY SECURITY DEPOSIT threads funny and everyone who doesn't 0 research does deserve it, but a newer player may trust (I know, right?) an official "Helpful Corps" list... especially coming from CCP... So CCP please for the love of noob delete them from the list. 
You know, I'm not generally partial to any major null sec alliance (let's just say a semi-distant past taught me things :p), but I do have to ask - were you ever scammed by Goonfleet? I mean, did they actually ever hurt you in any way, shape or form? Don't get me wrong, I know they annoy a whole pile of people, but then, so do pirates declaring war on mining corps in high sec, do they not? So do those scammers in Jita "selling very cheap Plexses!". The sooner a noobie learns that Eve isn't My little Pony Online, the better. And you know what? I BET that if said noobie jumped into a Merlin and attacked Goonswarm members, he'd be more likely to end up with them than with any other major alliance in the Galaxy.
Perceptions are an interesting things - often those that you fight and loathe end up being pretty cool chaps. Above all else, we are in Eve to have fun, so relax, take it easy and just have a good time. And if you do want to fight the goons, who said you can't? Gather 50 people, find a lone rider and engage. Worst case scenario you'll end up in a clone in high sec, big deal. |

Arkon Olacar
Imperial Guardians
88
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Posted - 2012.07.19 09:41:00 -
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So much butthurt "The rest will be in the blog rather than invented at the keyboards of forum posters and bloggers." -á-á-á-á-á-á-á - CCP Sreegs, 23/06/2012
Umad forum warriors? |

Enela
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.07.19 12:05:00 -
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Reading this thread tickled my interes. Is it possible to join goonwaffle without being a member of the Something Awful forums, nor knowing another member? Checked out the Something Awful forums and it cost money to sign up for? |

Bunnie Hop
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
253
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Posted - 2012.07.19 12:15:00 -
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The Goons of a few years ago perhaps were a helpful organization but now, well you clearly are vested in the game and bring attention to it but are hardly a 'helpful organization'. You have been seduced by the dark side, come back to the light...wait, wrong universe. Well you are what you are, own it and stop trying to sugar coat it and say you are helping people other than yourselves. |

Mallak Azaria
339
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Posted - 2012.07.19 12:18:00 -
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Boudicca Arbosa wrote:Tarsus Zateki wrote:The filthy pubbie masses are really scraping the bottom of the barrel if this is all they can come up with to whine about Goons these days. The filthy Goonswarm masses are really scraping the bottom of the barrel if they think anyone here really cares enough to think they're relevant still.
That's an amazing level of not caring. |

Oraac Ensor
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2012.07.19 13:56:00 -
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Yatama Kautsuo wrote:Today I noticed for the first time the little icon in the launcher saying: "Player Organisations - Helpful Corps ingame"
Where? I see no icon. |
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