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Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
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Posted - 2012.07.18 23:27:00 -
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The only thing I would find acceptable would be adjusting uppercase/lowercase.
Your character name is an alias under which you can find players easily if you remember their name. As far as I know, there is no other way to find a character and it's too late to assign ID's or whatnot to characters. |

Adalun Dey
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
34
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Posted - 2012.07.18 23:48:00 -
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As long as the original name can still be traced (display name vs character name) I'd reckon that paying a PLEX would be quite lucrative to CCP. Hopefully some of that money could be pumped into developing EVE. All for it.
Same with resculpting your avatar, pay a PLEX, get some plastic surgery. " Take my love, take my land, take me where I can not stand, I don't care, I'm still free. You can't take the sky from me. "
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Gun Gal
Dark Club
39
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Posted - 2012.07.18 23:54:00 -
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stop the useless posting, this will never be allowed, nor happen, as in virtually every other online game your name is your rep.
if you make a stupid name, guess that reflects who you are.
if you buy a developed char with a stupid name, guess that also reflects who you are.
and if you are a crook, so be it... as forest gump says.....
stupid is as stupid does |

Bootleg Jack
Potters Field
180
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Posted - 2012.07.18 23:56:00 -
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Since anyone can trade an old toon for a similar new toon and cover any past history all not doing this does is deprive CCP of some development bucks and make it hard for people who made bad naming decisions.
I'd say allow sex change too. I'm an American, English is my second language... |

Bootleg Jack
Potters Field
180
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Posted - 2012.07.18 23:59:00 -
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Adalun Dey wrote:As long as the original name can still be traced (display name vs character name) I'd reckon that paying a PLEX would be quite lucrative to CCP. Hopefully some of that money could be pumped into developing EVE. All for it.
Same with resculpting your avatar, pay a PLEX, get some plastic surgery.
Agreed on the sculpting, god knows some need it :)
But on traceability, like I posted above, anyone can just swap out toons so why bother, there is no trace now and the whole idea that people cannot escape a bad rep is plain false.
I'm an American, English is my second language... |

Skogen Gump
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
68
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Posted - 2012.07.18 23:59:00 -
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Gun Gal wrote:.. as forest gump says.....
stupid is as stupid does
EVE is like a box of choco-lates!
Back on topic; I'm ambivalent about this - sometimes I think it'd be handy if you were allowed a once in a lifetime change, it's not that unheard of after all, you can do it in WOW for a fee if you race change.
That said, I think for the players that count we'd lose the entire bottom and top ends of the alphabet.
Because we're a single shard and as people have said, your name is your bond - I can think of more reasons to not have this, then to have this.
And trust me, I've wanted to change this name more than once - put it down to me being drunk in 2004 and thinking I'd like to check out this game that PC Gamer keeps harping on about.
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Bully Hedro
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
11
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Posted - 2012.07.19 00:14:00 -
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Gun Gal wrote:stop the useless posting, this will never be allowed, nor happen, as in virtually every other online game your name is your rep.
if you make a stupid name, guess that reflects who you are.
if you buy a developed char with a stupid name, guess that also reflects who you are.
and if you are a crook, so be it... as forest gump says.....
stupid is as stupid does
Nope.
1. It starts with a trial account to try out the game and just making somethng up really quick to test the game out.
2. 3 weeks later you decide to subscribe... your kindof ok with the name, but its not one you would have chosen if you knew you were going to subscribe long term, but you just got Caldari Frigate V, can finally fly that Manticore, and don't want to have to repeat the last month of training...
3. ... 6 months later that name is still bothering you... more than you realized it would...now kindof nagging on you, and you wish that you could change it, but the thought of having to reskill now the last 6 months over again, going back to noob ships, and loosing 6 months of time would kill your game enjoyment as it would feel like you just wasted the last 6 months ('no cap skills again, can't fit anything again, no decent damage again), so its a nagging detraction from game enjoyment.
Thus your stuck... there's a nagging/persistent detraction from you game enjoyment that you just can't fix... sucks. A one time correction and walla, nagging destraction from 100% enjoyment gone.
The reason this keeps coming up is that a lot of players want it and would pay for it. Like said before, Eve is a sandbox and this is something that is done in RL (where your name is REALLY your bond) even more easily and often. Heck 90% of women that gets married have quick name changes... you can't tell me that RL is less important that Eve? Most Trolls make too much of a big deal about this and keeps others from fully enjoying the game... and CCP from making more money. |

Sabrina Solette
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.19 00:31:00 -
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Bully Hedro wrote:Gun Gal wrote:stop the useless posting, this will never be allowed, nor happen, as in virtually every other online game your name is your rep.
if you make a stupid name, guess that reflects who you are.
if you buy a developed char with a stupid name, guess that also reflects who you are.
and if you are a crook, so be it... as forest gump says.....
stupid is as stupid does Nope. 1. It starts with a trial account to try out the game and just making somethng up really quick to test the game out. 2. 3 weeks later you decide to subscribe... your kindof ok with the name, but its not one you would have chosen if you knew you were going to subscribe long term, but you just got Caldari Frigate V, can finally fly that Manticore, and don't want to have to repeat the last month of training... 3. ... 6 months later that name is still bothering you... more than you realized it would...now kindof nagging on you, and you wish that you could change it, but the thought of having to reskill now the last 6 months over again, going back to noob ships, and loosing 6 months of time would kill your game enjoyment as it would feel like you just wasted the last 6 months ('no cap skills again, can't fit anything again, no decent damage again), so its a nagging detraction from game enjoyment. Thus your stuck... there's a nagging/persistent detraction from you game enjoyment that you just can't fix... sucks. A one time correction and walla, nagging destraction from 100% enjoyment gone. The reason this keeps coming up is that a lot of players want it and would pay for it. Like said before, Eve is a sandbox and this is something that is done in RL (where your name is REALLY your bond) even more easily and often.
If I make a mistake with a character and it niggles me at some point I'll just stop delete it after posting it's assets to the next character. Things that niggle me are poor names and errors in the character itself. Sometimes you can get quite far into a game before you realise what it is you dislike about your character.
So yeah, I can understand the problem you have and others like you. It's also a pity you can't alter facial and body features as people make quite a few error in those areas. |

YuuKnow
372
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Posted - 2012.07.19 00:51:00 -
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Skogen Gump wrote:Back on topic; I'm ambivalent about this - sometimes I think it'd be handy if you were allowed a once in a lifetime change, it's not that unheard of after all, you can do it in WOW for a fee if you race change.
That said, I think for the players that count we'd lose the entire bottom and top ends of the alphabet.
Because we're a single shard and as people have said, your name is your bond - I can think of more reasons to not have this, then to have this.
And trust me, I've wanted to change this name more than once - put it down to me being drunk in 2004 and thinking I'd like to check out this game that PC Gamer keeps harping on about.
The name as your bond thing has been dead in Eve the day that people could run simultaneous accounts, make alts (many of them griefer alts), and completely transfer characters from one account to another. Half of the names that I knew from 2003-2005 now belong to completely different people.
The whole concept of alts and spys, alone, all make the "name is your bond" claim inaccurate and hyperbolic.
I would probably take advantage of the offer myself if it presents itself.
yk |

Hiyora Akachi
Bling Ring Tax Evaders
15
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Posted - 2012.07.19 01:05:00 -
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72isk
No I won't negotiate any higher, take it or leave it. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
372
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Posted - 2012.07.19 01:06:00 -
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Gun Gal wrote:stop the useless posting, this will never be allowed, nor happen, as in virtually every other online game your name is your rep.
if you make a stupid name, guess that reflects who you are.
if you buy a developed char with a stupid name, guess that also reflects who you are.
and if you are a crook, so be it... as forest gump says.....
stupid is as stupid does Solution:
Old name is still linked to the new name. If I change my name to Peabody Widdleshums, I should be able to type in "James Amril-Kesh", autolink it to character and it will pull up Peabody Widdleshums when I click on it, with a note somewhere on the character sheet stating formerly known as James Amril-Kesh.
And again, only allow one character name change per character. EVE's 4th of July Fireworks |

Bully Hedro
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
12
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Posted - 2012.07.19 01:15:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Old name is still linked to the new name. If I change my name to Peabody Widdleshums, I should be able to type in "James Amril-Kesh", autolink it to character and it will pull up Peabody Widdleshums when I click on it, with a note somewhere on the character sheet stating formerly known as James Amril-Kesh.
And again, only allow one character name change per character.
One character name change per account
I like this idea
YuuKnow wrote:The name as your bond thing has been dead in Eve the day that people could run simultaneous accounts, make alts (many of them griefer alts), and completely transfer characters from one account to another. Half of the names that I knew from 2003-2005 now belong to completely different people.
The whole concept of alts and spys alone make the "name is your bond" claim inaccurate and hyperbolic.
I would probably take advantage of the offer myself if it presents itself.
yk
good points |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
372
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Posted - 2012.07.19 01:41:00 -
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Bully Hedro wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Old name is still linked to the new name. If I change my name to Peabody Widdleshums, I should be able to type in "James Amril-Kesh", autolink it to character and it will pull up Peabody Widdleshums when I click on it, with a note somewhere on the character sheet stating formerly known as James Amril-Kesh.
And again, only allow one character name change per character. One character name change per account I like this idea Actually yeah, that works too. I was thinking of per character since I have one other character on this account: JamesAmrilKesh Alt.
Yeah, I had to do that because the RAZOR Alliance forums doesn't take too kindly to the fact that my name has a dash in it. But then if I changed my name I could just biomass that char since I haven't trained any skills on it at all. EVE's 4th of July Fireworks |

stoicfaux
1257
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Posted - 2012.07.19 01:43:00 -
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Quote:How much would to pay for a name change? I can imagine that some people would pay a lot to change The Mittani's name to 10058. Someone go start a Kickstarter page.
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
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reamau
31
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Posted - 2012.07.19 13:18:00 -
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All the player whining won't make a difference- once CCP realizes that they can successfully charge ($$?) in real currency for a name change with enough "controls" so appearances are maintained, you can be they will.
Take our favorite other mmo to reference- they charge $25 to rename a character. The old name goes into reserve for I think 90 days, then someone else can get it. That delay prevents insta-swapping of identities, or so they claimed.
I think I read that they claimed the average player had like 1.5 name changes a year- thats the company getting over 2 months gametime revenue for something entirely automated.
Sounds like a revenue source that CCP will try someday. GëívGëí Inferno: almost as fun as chewing used medical syringes. |

Mallak Azaria
339
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Posted - 2012.07.19 13:20:00 -
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Chribba wrote:Hope it never happens.
Not empty quoting a Chribba post. |

Kyle Ward
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
238
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Posted - 2012.07.19 14:00:00 -
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I trashed my 20mil SP main because I didn't like his name...
I regret nothing. The Sandbox, you're playing it wrong! |

Teinyhr
A Club for Reputable Gentlemen
72
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Posted - 2012.07.19 14:21:00 -
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This has been discussed numerous times in Features & Ideas discussion. For years and years. All of the points in this thread have been made again and again, to no avail. Someone did claim that CCP's CEO or somesuch had passingly mentioned "looking into it" as any other modern game allows it, but my Google Fu isn't sufficient enough to confirm this.
I really hope the name change does come someday, and I don't mind heavy restrictions with a reasonable price. However as CCP simply has skirted around the issue for almost ten years, my belief in it actually happening isn't at an all time high.
And what I would be willing to pay for a one-time name change? About 15-25 euros sounds reasonable and I believe that is standard price in many other MMO's altough can't confirm this.
"Your name is your reputation" is what even CCP has said IIRC as an excuse not to implement name change, but your name is not your reputation in this game, and hasn't been ever since alts and character trading became widespread. People keep deluding themselves about it, just like they are against "NEX and pay to win" but are amazingly a-ok with PLEX used for everything from turning real money in to game currency to PLEX as currency for any kind of service CCP offers. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
380
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Posted - 2012.07.19 14:31:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Chribba wrote:Hope it never happens. Not empty quoting a Chribba post. An idea stands on its own merit, regardless of who likes it or not. EVE's 4th of July Fireworks |

Gerald Taric
87
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Posted - 2012.07.19 14:50:00 -
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Bully Hedro wrote:How much would you pay? I don't need that service because i try to choose my names with care.
But i know at least one incident, where someone other got a name change, because he did not realized, that the Name he has choosen had some "real live past". The name was however not famous enough to say "he should have known that".
Therefore, there is obiously a possibility for real problematic names, but i don't like such a service on a regular base. Names are unique identifiers. If you spoiled the reputation of your character, you should not be able to wash yourself clean from it by changing names like changing pants.
TL;DR:
It is your responsibility to pick a proper name in the beginning. Choose carefully.
have a look for natural sounding names, "google" them for problematic pasts or similar, and ask yourself "Do i want to be called that way 'for eternity'?"
And after that: Consider every action you plan to do - concerning your reputation.
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Kyle Ward
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
245
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Posted - 2012.07.19 14:56:00 -
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Gerald Taric wrote:have a look for natural sounding names, "google" them for problematic pasts or similar, and ask yourself "Do i want to be called that way 'for eternity'?"
I once made an alt with the name "Noah Ward". Thought it sounded cool an also was kinda punny, (No Award). Then one day when I googled his name to get to his KB stats I learned that "Noah Ward" was actually the name of guy that used to work on EVE for CCP. After the mindplosion, I sucked it up and deleted him - it just didn't feel right... The Sandbox, you're playing it wrong! |

Teinyhr
A Club for Reputable Gentlemen
72
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Posted - 2012.07.19 15:00:00 -
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Gerald Taric wrote:
TL;DR:
It is your responsibility to pick a proper name in the beginning. Choose carefully.
have a look for natural sounding names, "google" them for problematic pasts or similar, and ask yourself "Do i want to be called that way 'for eternity'?"
And after that: Consider every action you plan to do - concerning your reputation.
When I started playing this game I was what, 15? I wasn't sure if I'd keep playing or not. I just scrobbled together a few words and called it a day. I've since wisened up, but apparently need to be punished forever?
And no, name is not your reputation. You already can wash your sins away with buying a new character or simply using an alt to do your dirty deeds from the beginning. See my post above. |

Gerald Taric
87
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Posted - 2012.07.19 15:03:00 -
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Kyle Ward wrote:Gerald Taric wrote:have a look for natural sounding names, "google" them for problematic pasts or similar, and ask yourself "Do i want to be called that way 'for eternity'?"
I once made an alt with the name "Noah Ward". Thought it sounded cool an also was kinda punny, (No Award). Then one day when I googled his name to get to his KB stats I learned that "Noah Ward" was actually the name of guy that used to work on EVE for CCP. After the mindplosion, I sucked it up and deleted him - it just didn't feel right... ouch! 
well, at last *this* - i'm somehow sure - would be a qualifying reason for a name change by writing a petition.
Anyway - some names are quite common. And it could also be, that the Person joined CCP *after* you named your character (i don't know).
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Gerald Taric
87
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Posted - 2012.07.19 15:12:00 -
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Teinyhr wrote: When I started playing this game I was what, 15? I wasn't sure if I'd keep playing or not. I just scrobbled together a few words and called it a day. I've since wisened up, but apparently need to be punished forever?
good argument. I might change my attitude to "one name change for much money - so you will just do it, if you really feel pain with your first choice."
Teinyhr wrote: And no, name is not your reputation. You already can wash your sins away with buying a new character or simply using an alt to do your dirty deeds from the beginning. See my post above.
I do not agree on that point. If you buy a character, you also buy the characters past = his/her reputation. If you create a new character, the character has no reputation so far. If you use alts, you have - different characters with different reputations. Other players do not know, that two characters have in real live the same person in behind. They just see your characters + their names. Therefore you could play two completely different characters ingame - that's okay. |

Hugs n Kisses
Eternal Profiteers Eternal Syndicate
479
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Posted - 2012.07.20 00:20:00 -
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Who needs a hug? |

AureoBroker
Etoilles Mortant Ltd. Solyaris Chtonium
53
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Posted - 2012.07.20 00:43:00 -
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First and foremost, a namechange should point out in your bio, as first thing, "Previously known as". That said, probably 2 plex. |

Aurelius Valentius
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
140
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Posted - 2012.07.20 00:47:00 -
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I would pay 5 Aur or a can of tuna to change your name from:
Bully Hedro
to:
Leonard James Akaar the Teer of the Ten Tribes of Capella IV Imperial Academy
I like my name just fine so none there...hehe. it's all about the Frame Rate... |

Verfanny
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.07.20 01:00:00 -
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I would pay for it, not because I dislike my name (it is actually the name of someone I know, spelled differently) but because someone once told me, in WoW if I remember well, that ***** has another meaning in English, which I didn't know about when I created her back in 2006. Oh well... at least EVE players are not as childish as WoW players. |

Evei Shard
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
99
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Posted - 2012.07.20 01:14:00 -
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reamau wrote:All the player whining won't make a difference- once CCP realizes that they can successfully charge ($$?) in real currency for a name change with enough "controls" so appearances are maintained, you can be they will.
I don't know that this is entirely true. There are a lot of players who would pay cash for a resculpt, but CCP has stated they have no plans to do such a thing, so I wouldn't expect renames to be treated any different. Lots of pilots don't care about names or appearances. I'm guessing that LCO is quite happy, but vanity is a very large pool of money that can be tapped if a company is willing to do it. CCP has shown they have the ability to let people resculpt their characters, they simply refuse to offer it as a service. They can, and have, changed names, but they won't do that either (note: I'm not siding for or against that one, there are a lot of valid points in this thread).
The question I would have to ask is why CCP chooses to ignore a large potential income with something that requires no additional coding for the game. Profit favors the prepared |

Celeste Taylor
Ruby Dynasty
90
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Posted - 2012.07.20 01:15:00 -
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My trial character had a name that I came up with on the spot, a avatar which was rushed though decent and a mediocre assortment of skills. My trial character didn't have a bad name as much as one "borrowed" from a couple of novels since I needed a name on the spot. Once I decided on subscribing for a year I decided to create this more permanent character that I could claim wasn't lifted from any one source. While I wasted a few weeks in my test character, I ended up with a character that I will be happy with for years to come.
I suggest new players who plan on staying consider creating a "permanent" keeper character as well while you are in your first week or two, otherwise it gets really hard to start over once you invest more time in your character.
As for those characters that are a few years old I think the name change option could potentially be another source for revenue for CCP. It looks as though those that want to change their name are willing to spend a very large amount of real world currency to do so and I don't think the number of people would change much by lowering the prices for this service. It is true that other games do charge a good amount of cash to transfer characters between servers or change names. |
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