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Ankhesentapemkah
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Posted - 2010.06.27 23:57:00 -
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While we are waiting for the minutes, feel free to read my report on the CSM's accomplishments in Iceland.
http://eve-takecare.net/
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T'Amber
www.shipsofeve.com Origin of Symmetry
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Posted - 2010.06.28 00:09:00 -
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Well written, but I require some more details as soon as you have slept and have time :)
SHIPS OF EVE 5.5 win cool stuffÖ
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Dograzor
The Black Rabbits Academy The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2010.06.28 00:13:00 -
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Edited by: Dograzor on 28/06/2010 00:17:17 Fun things to read... shiney...
Ty for the update ^^ Will read again when more awake :)
Edit: Do you guys have pictures of any kind? any? please? -
"We don't gank, we just apply force in a disproportionate manner during an uneven tactical combat situation to maximize revenue and increase shareholder value" |
Scary McNastypants
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Posted - 2010.06.28 00:37:00 -
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Do you feel that you can demonstrate professionalism and the ability to bring issues to CCP's attention best by throwing things at people who disagree with you overhand, or sidearm? Perhaps you could express your professionalism better by kicking?
Perhaps biting? |
Dograzor
The Black Rabbits Academy The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2010.06.28 00:39:00 -
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Originally by: Scary McNastypants Do you feel that you can demonstrate professionalism and the ability to bring issues to CCP's attention best by throwing things at people who disagree with you overhand, or sidearm? Perhaps you could express your professionalism better by kicking?
Perhaps biting?
Trolls are slow today, only in on the 4th post...
Now grow a pair & post with your main... if you dare.. -
"We don't gank, we just apply force in a disproportionate manner during an uneven tactical combat situation to maximize revenue and increase shareholder value" |
Scary McNastypants
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Posted - 2010.06.28 02:16:00 -
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so do you think that we can best help Ankhes to reach her full potential by giving her darts, or perhaps frisbees? maybe paper airplanes? |
Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.06.28 03:19:00 -
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Nice summary. Thanks for the info. Definitely looking forward to seeing the minutes...
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Marlakh
Minmatar Ammatar Free Corps Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.28 04:54:00 -
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A good start to the CSM5. Kudos to Mynxee and the comittee for the hard work on behalf of us lowly immortals, and thanks to Ankh for putting up this update.
I look forward to more updates and eventual resolution of the issues raised.
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Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2010.06.28 06:26:00 -
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So basically nothing on Eve will be worked on for another year or 2 while they "finish" Dust and release some more eye-candy in the form of WiS?
Sounds like the sociopaths have taken over.
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Aineko Macx
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Posted - 2010.06.28 08:07:00 -
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Quote: The tech team also learned about several lag-related issues from the CSM which they were not aware of, making the session productive for both sides of the table.
This is friggin unbelievable. 6 months of petitions, forum whines, mass tests, etc. etc. and CCP still didn't manage to actually become aware of all the symptoms players have been screaming about?
Quote: CCP is planning to address the most serious lag problems by letting nodes transfer troublesome solarsystems to other nodes which do have capacity left over to deal with a sudden fight. At first, this will cause all players to suffer a disconnect, but CCP is designing a system which allows this process to happen dynamically.
Yep, dynamic handover of players. I called it!
Also, thanks for confirming my suspicion that Nathan is a dork.
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Stevakis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2010.06.28 08:41:00 -
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Excellent report.
One obversation. CCP always hammered that Incarna and Dust would be created in Atlanta and Shanghai respectively, and would not take any resources away from EVE.
Big fat lie?
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Black Dranzer
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Posted - 2010.06.28 09:08:00 -
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An interesting read, but a little depressing.
Looking forward to spooning up the minutes, though.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.06.28 10:32:00 -
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Originally by: Black Dranzer An interesting read, but a very depressing.
Pretty much that, was interesting, but it pretty much says CSM is being ignored (non-shocker) and CCP doesnt have any plans to fix stuff. New UI would also be way bigger selling point then stuff like planetary interaction in an expansion.
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Void Kraken
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Posted - 2010.06.28 10:45:00 -
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I wonder if this "non-official" report violates the NDA...
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Sturmwolke
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Posted - 2010.06.28 11:19:00 -
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Good informative report, despite the circus.
However, I just want to add that having fractured reports from different CSM members is not what folks are looking for. My impression at this point is that the CSM reps are only putting more efforts towards self-interest rather than dealing with the issues put forward. Your whole public front is fractured, which no doubt is good drama food for the drama afficianados.
Let me ask this question. Do you have a SINGLE website or information source where everything regarding CSM can be perused/viewed/referred/archived/discussed? The official Eve forum, Eve wiki and various CSM individual sites don't really fit into this picture. Let me give a rhetoric. What would your response be if I'm an EVE noob and complaning about PVE missions? Get the idea now?
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Dograzor
The Black Rabbits Academy The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2010.06.28 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: Void Kraken I wonder if this "non-official" report violates the NDA...
I highly doubt that, since when reading the previous meeting minutes Ankh exactly knows what falls under the NDA, and such details are not published by her requests. -
"We don't gank, we just apply force in a disproportionate manner during an uneven tactical combat situation to maximize revenue and increase shareholder value" |
Delilah Wild
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Posted - 2010.06.28 14:54:00 -
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Ank, thank you for the interesting report.
I'd also like to put my shoulder behind Dograzor's good natured request for photos and other shineys.
Delilah
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Gavjack Bunk
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Posted - 2010.06.28 15:30:00 -
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CCP's reluctance and inability to respond to the CSM isn't as bad as I had anticipated. I was actually expecting an Eddie Murphy Beverely Hills Cop style ::FingersInEars:: LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU YOU THINK YOU ARE TALKING TO ME BUT I CANNOT HEAR YOU YOU MIGHT AS WELL STOP TALKING I CANNOT HEAR YOU. -- On planets... nobody can see you macro mining... |
Ban Doga
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Posted - 2010.06.28 19:29:00 -
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Edited by: Ban Doga on 28/06/2010 19:34:42 Edited by: Ban Doga on 28/06/2010 19:34:12
Quote: The tech team also learned about several lag-related issues from the CSM which they were not aware of, making the session productive for both sides of the table. If you experience issues in-game, be sure to always report a bug !
Totally confirming CCP are still playing their own game. AWESOME!
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Quote: The end of the last day was filled with many smaller issues. Unfortunately, the CSM heard time and again that CCP simply does not have any resources to commit to anything. ... Nevertheless, the new stakeholder position and access to statistics is a major step forward.
Could you explain what kind of stakeholder the CSM represents when basically none of the issues get any commitment and how this is a "major step forward"?
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Tsukiko Ishida
Taj'Kura
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Posted - 2010.06.28 20:23:00 -
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Quote: The end of the last day was filled with many smaller issues. Unfortunately, the CSM heard time and again that CCP simply does not have any resources to commit to anything.
Quote: CCP simply does not have any resources to commit to anything.
Quote: does not have any resources to commit to anything.
Quote: commit
I'm almost angry, and feel like we've become similar to the WoW community in that our development team has been pulled away from an existing, fruitful game to work on completely separate games. I wouldn't mind if this game was more or less fixed and the previous expansions more or less completed, but that isn't the case.
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Marlona Sky
D00M. RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.06.28 21:17:00 -
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Where is the part where Vuk yells at CCP to fix the lag and get some results like he said he would?
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RDNx 02
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Posted - 2010.06.29 14:07:00 -
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Edited by: RDNx 02 on 29/06/2010 14:08:11 Mynxee's blog post after day 1 of the CSM Summit paints a slightly less acrominious picture.
Life in Low Sec
It has a group pix of CSM5 members too :D
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Mynxee
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Posted - 2010.06.29 18:18:00 -
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Ankh's report paints a pretty accurate picture of session discussion, CSM frustrations, etc. I'm very curious to see the draft Minutes that CCP writes up. I have requested CSM review of those Minutes to be sure they are accurate and accurately represent CSM perspective/opinion.
My Day 1 blog post was written when I was still optimistic because you know...glass half full and all that. After 3 days of the same CCP song and dance, the continued resistance to commit, be accountable, or open to more integrated communication with CSM (such as the "insider" stakeholders have), my Cap of Skepticism is firmly in place. Blog post later today; first day back home in 8 days means RL demands attention first.
Also, I think my photos on Facebook are public...if not, friend me and you can see them all. Summit and Iceland.
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Dograzor
The Black Rabbits Academy The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2010.06.29 19:02:00 -
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Mynx <3
Ty for the pics!!!! -
"We don't gank, we just apply force in a disproportionate manner during an uneven tactical combat situation to maximize revenue and increase shareholder value" |
Extreme
Eye of God Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.29 23:48:00 -
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Nice work/overview Eva
/X . .
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Malcanis
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.06.30 03:51:00 -
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CCP told us for the last 3 years that Incarna was basically a side benefit of WoD. Now they're saying they cant fix gamebreaking bugs because of all the dev resources they're pouring into it? What changed?
Well those resources have been spent now, but Incarna had better be ****ing epic. If they've spent 3 years creating an avatar creator and space-bars while important **** goes unfixed, there will be hell to pay.
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |
Cearain
Caldari The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2010.06.30 04:34:00 -
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Well I'm not thrilled that they seem more interested in working on PI than FW.
But at least they seemed somewhat committed to making fw plexes spawn more often throughout the day. This is something, at least a little bit, bigger than just a bug fix. Was anything said about the fact that very few people in fw do what is supposed to be the main focus of fw - plex for occupancy?
Did you or anyone get a sense of other specific "low fruit" they may pick off of the backlog when it comes to fw? I'm interested in all things fw. What did you guys present to them on fw? And what sense did you get about what they thought.
-Cearain
Make fw occupancy pvp instead of pve: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1329906 |
Alsyth
Night Warder
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Posted - 2010.06.30 12:45:00 -
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Edited by: Alsyth on 30/06/2010 12:45:42 Ankh left her corp and said :
[12:26:22] EVE System > [...] [12:38:55] Ankhesentapemkah > sokratesz is a jerk and one of the few guys not productive in the CSM [12:39:07] Ankhesentapemkah > here's my view http://eve-takecare.net [12:39:38] Alsyth > you sure you wanted to say that ? [12:44:36] Jareck Hunter > read his comments...
In the CSM public channel....
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Cearain
Caldari The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2010.06.30 12:58:00 -
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This whole sok v. ank drama would make a great icarly episode. But can those 12 year old girls obsessed with this junior high drama please post the details in a seperate thread?
Ank didn't mention it in her original post at least what I read of it. So why must every thread regarding the csm be shat on? FFS.
-Cearain
Make fw occupancy pvp instead of pve: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1329906 |
MarvinTheParanoidAndroid
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Posted - 2010.06.30 13:03:00 -
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Originally by: Alsyth
Ankh left her corp and said :
[12:26:22] EVE System > [...] [12:38:55] Ankhesentapemkah > sokratesz is a jerk and one of the few guys not productive in the CSM [12:39:07] Ankhesentapemkah > here's my view http://eve-takecare.net [12:39:38] Alsyth > you sure you wanted to say that ? [12:44:36] Jareck Hunter > read his comments...
In the CSM public channel....
She tactfully forgets to mention that after she stuttered her way through her FW warfare, it was sok and vuk that saved her ass by summarizing the key points to ccp personnel present. That said, until the minutes are out there is no way to verify anyone's contributions.
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