Originally by: Wyke Mossari

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It is clear from the video that Devs perceive the biggest obstacle to this change would be a negative reaction from players.

The thread shows an overwhelming positive reaction.

I think we can look forward to the learning skills mistake being fixed soon rather than later.

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Originally by: Llyandrian

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Originally by: Jasdemi

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Because it's the truth. CCP is just watching the few threads about learnings remooval. Over 90% of all posters agree, so we can be pretty sure about the removal.

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+1

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Originally by: Suitonia

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Removing the learning skills, and compensating people who trained them, would remove one of the major hurdles that new players face when trying to get into the game.

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Originally by: Mathias Black

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Edited by: Mathias Black on 09/07/2010 00:30:52

Originally by: AterraX

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I trained learning skills for a purpose...because after fiddling with EvE on the 2 weeks trial...I knew I would play this game for years to come.
And I realized how stupid it would be for me not to plan ahead...think on the long run...and so I did.
So I train allmost maxed (only have +4 implants) in at the moment...but that means that am getting the most for my "investment" in the long run.
And every day I harvest the benefit of my investment...delicous SP at a very nice rate.

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Wow, you really did that? You sure are smart, AND a great planner! WOW! I bet almost NO ONE in Eve has ever thought ahead like that, and if a few did, I bet none of them had the amazing passion and dedication you have to have put points into Learning! There must be thousands of long term players who are SO jealous of the super fast skill point rate you have compared to them! You few, you lucky few, who figured out that the Learning skills make you gain skills faster! Certainly there's no way that pretty much every single player in the whole game did the exact same thing, because your tactical reasoning is just OVER 9000!!!

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Originally by: Issaries Valran

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Originally by: AterraX

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This thread is full of whiners who have maxed out their learning skills, are really jealous and butthurt about it and want it to stay unchanged because they had to do it and want others go through the same pain they did.

Nice own goal...you got more?

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Fixed for you.

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Originally by: Issaries Valran

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I am not trolling so much as stating a truth. About the mind set of those that think learning skills are fine.

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Originally by: Issaries Valran

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Edited by: Issaries Valran on 09/07/2010 02:12:58

Originally by: AterraX

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Don't quit your dayjob...if you think trolling = absolute truth

All I see is whines about people wanting stuff (in this case: attribute bonusses) for free.

EvE is a sandbox game...you don't need to train learning skills....but they sure are nice.

Whine some more please...you amuse me

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For one I didn't say it was an absolute truth. Nor did I say I wasn't trolling.

Maybe you should work on your reading comprehension.

I said... ôI am not trolling so much as stating a truth...ö

Which means I was trolling some. But as I was trolling I was also stating a truth. Basically being caustic with my retort.

Nor did I say it was the absolute truth, I said ôa truthö meaning just one truth of a number.

You may believe that everyone of a differing opinion is a troll or a whiner. Instead of people with a valid reason to dislike and want a fix to a design decision. That didn't add any real positives to the game and instead add a list of negatives and deterrents.

No one would be hollering for learning skills if they had never been implemented in the first place. The only reason people are supporting them currently are for selfish reasons having to do with the, hazing effect. Everyone that has them trained was put through the learning skills hazing period and therefor everyone else should be too.

As for me I have the learning skills trained, on multiple chars. And I still believe learning skills are bad and should be done away with. How that should be done is for the Devs to decided.

As for EvE is a sandbox and you don't have to train learning skills. That doesn't really fly. EvE is also a game about efficiency Efficiency is everything in EvE. Efficiency in making ISK. Efficiency at combat, PvP. Efficiency at Trading. Efficiency at Mining. Efficiency at Manufacturing. Efficiency at Research. Efficiency at everything else in EvE including, Skill progression.

I am glad you find me amusing, because I find your crying just as amusing.

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Originally by: Issaries ValranStill proving to all, that reading comprehension is not your strong suit.

You are quite amusing..

No where did I state I wanted +10 to all attributes for free.
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Then we are in agreement:
Remove learning skills books from the market, don't give anyone who havn't trained the learning skills the attribute bonus.
Problem solved...right?
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Fact of EVE forums: They will always come an anounomys alt-toon and question someones character...

Originally by: Mathias Black

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Originally by: Felix Esperium

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quick tell him he's not a ~special snowflake~

That will show him.

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Dear AtteraX,

You're not a special snowflake.

Sincerely,
The tens of thousands of other players who also trained learning skills.

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Originally by: ZenSun

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I agree with getting rid of them, actually. Then give us pre-existing customers unallocated skillpoints to plot on our sheets, just like you did for the extended DT ;) (fighters V please deliver.)

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Originally by: Sniffy McJiggles

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They must be letting this thread go for a reason. It would seem that they could have locked it long ago. Although it has been a good discussion for both sides.

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