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Mellie Pulchra
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Posted - 2010.06.30 13:53:00 -
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Originally by: Wryland
**** From: Wryland Sent: 2010.06.30 03:33 To: Mellie Pulchra,
you and your ****ing undercutting. I had a decent job going with the target painter IIs and then you come and undercut everyone, including me - by at least 200k. ****. whats the ****ing point! we were all having a good time w/ the .01 isk game til you came and ****ed it all up..
did I mention this is very ****tish?
/emorage /tears \wrists
can I have your stuff? want to do business? I promise I wont call u **** anymore.
Maybe some people don't like playing the .01 isk game. I definitely don't like being called tw@t either.
MP
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Mayyee
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Posted - 2010.06.30 13:57:00 -
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awesome!
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2010.06.30 14:07:00 -
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The tone is half joking so I give the evemail 2 pts for humor. OTOH the mods might not give the OP any points for posting an evemail w/name attached. Besides being a big no-no this is more C&P  stuff anyway. Around here we don't do gloat threads.  I know, I know. Yes, we do gloat we just don't do gloat threads. When you chop logic and split hairs, do it well or don't do it at all. 
Wealth, howsoever got, in Eve makes Lords of morons and gentlemen of thieves; Aptitude and intellect are needless here; 'Tis impudence and money that grants fame. |

Grozen
Caldari Titan Core
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Posted - 2010.06.30 14:07:00 -
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market tears r the best tears knowledge is power |

Mellie Pulchra
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Posted - 2010.06.30 14:39:00 -
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Originally by: Shar Tegral [justify]Around here we don't do gloat threads.
I know, I know.
Yes, we do gloat we just don't do gloat threads.
I didn't mean to come off as gloating, I just got this eve mail and thought it was funny and wanted to share . Slightly offensive, but funny nonetheless.
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MailDeadDrop
The Collective
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Posted - 2010.06.30 15:29:00 -
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Originally by: Shar Tegral OTOH the mods might not give the OP any points for posting an evemail w/name attached. Besides being a big no-no this is more C&P stuff anyway.
My apologies for a thread derail here.
Shar you've been around for a long while (insert ob. age joke) so maybe you have firsthand experience with CCP saying so, but after a limited search I don't find any documentation from CCP supporting your statement above that "posting evemail ... [is] a big no-no". The CCP rules for the C&P forum do prohibit evemails (regardless whether the sender's identity is redacted), but those rules specifically state they are for C&P.
The general forum rules have some imprecise rules about "being respectful" (#4), "no personal attacks" (#6), "no trolling" (#7), and "no profanity (not even masked)" (#19), any or all of which could conceivably apply to the OP (by some Barney Fief moderator). But I don't see any rule that is directly on point regarding quoting evemails.
I am *not* taking the position that posting such evemails is ok, I'm merely asking is there some official documentation to substantiate the position.
MDD
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2010.06.30 15:38:00 -
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Originally by: MailDeadDrop The CCP rules for the C&P forum do prohibit evemails (regardless whether the sender's identity is redacted), but those rules specifically state they are for C&P.
I'm very open to the notion that my "ideas" or "understandings" are vastly out of date. Things change and it ain't always easy to keeping upto date on that. (Yeeesh, two bunglings in one day - I'm just going to aim for a year long ban to cap this all off!)
Wealth, howsoever got, in Eve makes Lords of morons and gentlemen of thieves; Aptitude and intellect are needless here; 'Tis impudence and money that grants fame. |

MailDeadDrop
The Collective
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Posted - 2010.06.30 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: Shar Tegral
(Yeeesh, two bunglings in one day - I'm just going to aim for a year long ban to cap this all off!)
Oh please don't! I look forward to your delicious "lessons" meted out with such care...     (Mind you I would possibly relish them less were I the immediate pupil...)
MDD
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Chesty McJubblies
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Posted - 2010.06.30 15:51:00 -
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Always reply with a simple "lol".
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Tightass Trixie
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Posted - 2010.06.30 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: Mellie Pulchra
Originally by: Wryland
*snip*
****tish?
*snip*
I actually had to quote this post just to figure out what the **** represented in this profanity filtered evemail... Always nice to see someone reaching deep into the emorage dictionary to express thier true feelings. lol
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Suah Sponte
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Posted - 2010.06.30 16:32:00 -
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Can someone tell me what "\wrists" is supposed to mean? lol
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2010.06.30 17:07:00 -
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Originally by: Suah Sponte Can someone tell me what "\wrists" is supposed to mean? lol
slash wrists Very sardonic and self deprecating use in the eve mail imho.
Wealth, howsoever got, in Eve makes Lords of morons and gentlemen of thieves; Aptitude and intellect are needless here; 'Tis impudence and money that grants fame. |

SencneS
Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks
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Posted - 2010.06.30 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Shar Tegral
Originally by: Suah Sponte Can someone tell me what "\wrists" is supposed to mean? lol
slash wrists Very sardonic and self deprecating use in the eve mail imho.
Oh these youngens and their dang-fangled hacker speak....
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Dalden V
Blue Lounge Industries
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Posted - 2010.06.30 21:01:00 -
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I have yet to receive one of those even though I've been trading for a long time. I must be doig something wrong 
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volhar
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Posted - 2010.06.30 21:45:00 -
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I'm jealous of all the good evemails being posted recently, all I ever get is the generic "I have [so many] of this [some faction ship] but I'm moving to 0.0 and can't take them with me so I'll offer them to you at [this incredible discount!] Convo me for more details." scam attempt.
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Thoraemond
Minmatar Far Ranger
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Posted - 2010.06.30 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: SencneS
Originally by: Shar Tegral
Originally by: Suah Sponte Can someone tell me what "\wrists" is supposed to mean? lol
slash wrists
Very sardonic and self deprecating use in the eve mail imho.
Oh these youngens and their dang-fangled hacker speak....
In this case, some confusion might be attributed to a typo, too, since "\wrists" is literally "backslash wrists", not "slash wrists". á á
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Breaker77
Gallente Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2010.07.01 00:31:00 -
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Originally by: Dalden V I have yet to receive one of those even though I've been trading for a long time. I must be doig something wrong 
You are!!
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Vasaczk
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Posted - 2010.07.01 04:22:00 -
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Originally by: Thoraemond
Originally by: SencneS
Originally by: Shar Tegral
Originally by: Suah Sponte Can someone tell me what "\wrists" is supposed to mean? lol
slash wrists
Very sardonic and self deprecating use in the eve mail imho.
Oh these youngens and their dang-fangled hacker speak....
In this case, some confusion might be attributed to a typo, too, since "\wrists" is literally "backslash wrists", not "slash wrists".
The player is clearly ex or current-WoW (pretty easy to spot - being current-wow myself ).
Backslash could very well be intentional as the /emote culture is a very um... whats the word im looking for? like fotm'y?
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Tozmeister
Digital Fury Corporation
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Posted - 2010.07.01 07:26:00 -
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Originally by: Tightass Trixie
Originally by: Mellie Pulchra
Originally by: Wryland
*snip*
****tish?
*snip*
I actually had to quote this post just to figure out what the **** represented in this profanity filtered evemail... Always nice to see someone reaching deep into the emorage dictionary to express thier true feelings. lol
Is it 'scottish' ?
+++????+++Out of Cheese Error. Redo From Start+++ |

Chesty McJubblies
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Posted - 2010.07.01 11:18:00 -
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Originally by: Tozmeister
Originally by: Tightass Trixie
Originally by: Mellie Pulchra
Originally by: Wryland
*snip*
****tish?
*snip*
I actually had to quote this post just to figure out what the **** represented in this profanity filtered evemail... Always nice to see someone reaching deep into the emorage dictionary to express thier true feelings. lol
Is it 'scottish' ?
Whatever it was, it got deleted.
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Nobzy
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Posted - 2010.07.01 12:19:00 -
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Originally by: MailDeadDrop
Originally by: Shar Tegral OTOH the mods might not give the OP any points for posting an evemail w/name attached. Besides being a big no-no this is more C&P stuff anyway.
My apologies for a thread derail here.
Shar you've been around for a long while (insert ob. age joke) so maybe you have firsthand experience with CCP saying so, but after a limited search I don't find any documentation from CCP supporting your statement above that "posting evemail ... [is] a big no-no". The CCP rules for the C&P forum do prohibit evemails (regardless whether the sender's identity is redacted), but those rules specifically state they are for C&P.
The general forum rules have some imprecise rules about "being respectful" (#4), "no personal attacks" (#6), "no trolling" (#7), and "no profanity (not even masked)" (#19), any or all of which could conceivably apply to the OP (by some Barney Fief moderator). But I don't see any rule that is directly on point regarding quoting evemails.
I am *not* taking the position that posting such evemails is ok, I'm merely asking is there some official documentation to substantiate the position.
MDD
And since when have forum moderators had any idea about the forum rules? They lock and delete threads as they see fit, regardless of what the rules say. Always have :D
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Rachel Voegel
Perkone
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Posted - 2010.07.01 17:32:00 -
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Originally by: Mellie Pulchra Maybe some people don't like playing the .01 isk game. I definitely don't like being called tw@t either.
Getting hate mail for carebear activities is certainly an achievement.
I do find it annoying when people repeatedly undercut by more than 0.01 because there really is no point. _______
Originally by: Norrin Ellis Declaring war on a group of nuns whose sole purpose is to rescue people from imminent death seems a bit unreasonable.
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Lord Grimmas
Azure Freelancers
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Posted - 2010.07.01 17:40:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Grimmas on 01/07/2010 17:40:14
Originally by: Mellie Pulchra
Maybe some people don't like playing the .01 isk game.
Funny mail, wish I got some like that :-)
When someone undercuts me by a large amount I undercut him by .01 to drive the point home and then fight down to the last cent, assuming it's not simply more profitable to buy him out in the first place. Sometimes I'll even go into red, depending on long-term strategy, my mood, and the color of the sky at that moment. But I can see how this might drive competition out of the market, so people like you will keep doing it :-)
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Suah Sponte
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Posted - 2010.07.01 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: Rachel Voegel
I do find it annoying when people repeatedly undercut by more than 0.01 because there really is no point.
There are plenty of very good reasons why someone would undercut by more than 0.01 isk, especially in a crowded market. Is it better to take 10% of the volume at a 40% markup or 90% of the volume at a 10% markup?
That's just one good reason.
Hate the people who undercut by more than 0.01 who are nonetheless playing the 0.01 isk game.
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Steve Celeste
Caldari Inglorious-Basterds
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Posted - 2010.07.01 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: Tozmeister
Originally by: Tightass Trixie
Originally by: Mellie Pulchra
Originally by: Wryland
*snip*
****tish?
*snip*
I actually had to quote this post just to figure out what the **** represented in this profanity filtered evemail... Always nice to see someone reaching deep into the emorage dictionary to express thier true feelings. lol
Is it 'scottish' ?
It was.
No idea how it did not get filtered in your post though, such a nasty word.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2010.07.01 22:12:00 -
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Originally by: Steve Celeste No idea how it did not get filtered in your post though, such a nasty word.
There is a way to bypass the profanity filter (I do it occasionally for words that get part-filtered like sc****d) but doing so is very very dangerous. One of them you hope the mods are in a damned forgiving mood kind of dangerous. All of them btw - It only takes one to not like it.
Wealth, howsoever got, in Eve makes Lords of morons and gentlemen of thieves; Aptitude and intellect are needless here; 'Tis impudence and money that grants fame. |

Tuborg
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.07.01 22:44:00 -
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I also got one (from a different sender). Wonder if they're related... 
Quote:
From: (removed) Sent: 2010.07.01 14:53 To: Tuborg,
dude are you that ******ed i only bought out your target painter orders cause you were selling them for almost half the amount of the next lowest sell order in rens. now oyu have crashed the whole market with your ****ty 800k painters rage lol
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Ludacrys
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Posted - 2010.07.01 23:55:00 -
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if you do that in jita someone will either buy you out or undercut you again in less than 1 minute so what you are doing is only hurting the market for that particular item. I cant speak for other trade hubs cause i only work in jita but if you think undercutting everyone for 200k will save you from 0.01 isk games you are a moron
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Miztli Tonahuac
Microcredits
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Posted - 2010.07.02 00:09:00 -
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Originally by: Ludacrys if you do that in jita someone will either buy you out or undercut you again in less than 1 minute so what you are doing is only hurting the market for that particular item. I cant speak for other trade hubs cause i only work in jita but if you think undercutting everyone for 200k will save you from 0.01 isk games you are a moron
Of course it saves you from 0.01isk... 90% traders won't follow and sales are completed earlier. Try it.
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Lord Grimmas
Azure Freelancers
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Posted - 2010.07.02 00:25:00 -
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Originally by: Ludacrys if you do that in jita someone will either buy you out or undercut you again in less than 1 minute so what you are doing is only hurting the market for that particular item. I cant speak for other trade hubs cause i only work in jita but if you think undercutting everyone for 200k will save you from 0.01 isk games you are a moron
This. My experience is with Jita also but basically it doesn't work most of the time. In Suah's example you're exchanging 10% volume at 40% markup for 10% volume at 10% markup.
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