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Memorya
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Posted - 2010.07.04 07:56:00 -
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Youtube Link
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"English is a funny language; that explains why we park our car on the driveway and drive our car on the parkway."
English is my 5th. Language.
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Reverted Pacifist
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Posted - 2010.07.04 08:03:00 -
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Thank you for a sane link.
Hmm, i wonder if/how ccp might fix this, if I know them, they'll rush out some stupid hacky solution that only increases lag, and forgo the option to make useful improvements.
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Doddy
The Executives
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.04 08:05:00 -
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 Originally by: Sidekick John
Also, why would CCP developers name their improved scanner "Uber Scanner - Yes It Is Real (OMG)"?
This is ccp devs we are talking about right? I don't understand the question.
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Zxays
Caldari
Echolon Four Inc.
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Posted - 2010.07.04 08:05:00 -
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Originally by: Qoi
I'm pretty sure Bughunters have rights on sisi which they don't have on tq.
If you're right than you should be able to reproduce what the guy/gal in those videos was able to. If it's possible it can't be that hard, don't you think? If a 12year old boy can run his own wow-server, than you can inject some python... >.<
But maybe you shouldn't talk about "python-injection" as long as you don't even know what it means. (Yeah I know, probably everybody in this forum is able to python really roxxor  )
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Steve Celeste
Caldari
Inglorious-Basterds
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Posted - 2010.07.04 08:09:00 -
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I too, like to penetrate with my Python.
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I'thari
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.07.04 08:15:00 -
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So CCP's problem with modifiable UI is that server feed client too much info (and possibly can even be controlled by client to some extent) and CCP don't want to do anything about it... thought so :) |
CeneUJiti
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Posted - 2010.07.04 08:15:00 -
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2010.07.04 08:20:00 -
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Edited by: Super Whopper on 04/07/2010 08:24:32
I've had several cases in which I was sitting somewhere cloaked in a Helio, someone warped to me and podded me. The question isn't whether this is being used but how widespread it is.
I forgot to say: knowing CCP this isn't going to get patched for months, if not years, to come and then we'll see some mass bannings.
P.S. I can haz 12b fitted Vindicator with High Grade implants?
Originally by: I'thari
So CCP's problem with modifiable UI is that server feed client too much info (and possibly can even be controlled by client to some extent) and CCP don't want to do anything about it... thought so :)
I knew one guy whose corp had some really powerful tools. I declined to join because I'd rather fail at PVP, EVE and life (I do them all quite successfully) than cheat.
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Qoi
New Eden Warriors
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Posted - 2010.07.04 08:23:00 -
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Originally by: Zxays
Originally by: Qoi
I'm pretty sure Bughunters have rights on sisi which they don't have on tq.
If you're right than you should be able to reproduce what the guy/gal in those videos was able to. If it's possible it can't be that hard, don't you think? If a 12year old boy can run his own wow-server, than you can inject some python... >.<
But maybe you shouldn't talk about "python-injection" as long as you don't even know what it means. (Yeah I know, probably everybody in this forum is able to python really roxxor )
a) Of course it is difficult to reproduce the tool that was shown in the video. I'm not able to do that, but several people in this forum will.
b) Either you are trolling or you are really dumb. 12olds installing software is the same as injecting code into running applications?
c) I know the abstract on how you would hook into the eve exefile process (for example with easyhook), get a GIL (so it doesn't crash right away) and execute some python commands - then release GIL, play game as usual. Building a scanner like in the video is of course a different story.
d) How are bughunter roles on the server related to client code injection? You are not making any sense.
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2010.07.04 08:26:00 -
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Originally by: Blane Xero
there's a difference between trolling and being stupid
Not since 1999.
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CeneUJiti
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Posted - 2010.07.04 08:33:00 -
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Edited by: CeneUJiti on 04/07/2010 08:36:07
I don't know about 12yo kids, but I know that at 13 and 14 I was tweeking autoexec.bat and config.sys and manually hacking gamesaves when I really needed it. (Sadly age of windows made me lose those skills, curse you shiny user friendly GUI, curse you).
So I have no reason not to believe a real hacker with real knowledge skills and dedication can do some "interesting" stuff with EVE client. Still I must say again its immense fail of CCP to allow client to make and get returned server calls user is not be authorized to do.
Don't care about "privacy", I already clicked enough EULAs to know I have non left. CCP gief us EVE_Warden and fix the game. Permabanning exploiters might help too.
Edit. We are sooo dooomed. Some other "hackers" have opensourced their solutions.
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ObviousTroll Alt
Gallente
Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2010.07.04 08:37:00 -
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Originally by: CeneUJiti
Permabanning exploiters might help too.
Then the entire DEV team would have to Perma-ban themselves.
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Verrenici
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Posted - 2010.07.04 08:38:00 -
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Originally by: Qoi
Originally by: Verrenici
Funny, that. You would think you could whip up some proof of concept, seeing as it's oh so simple, and you're all quite the 'Python experts'.
I'm not holding my ****ing breath.
Getting banned on all accounts in the process? Stupid idea.
Until CCP allows us to penetration test anything, only people with malicious intent will bother.
Ubar skillnitz Python hax0rs that can't use proxies or set up trial accounts? Sounds much more likely than, say, they're full of ****?
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ViperTan
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.07.04 08:39:00 -
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Would not a GM/DEV client be locked to specific user accounts?
Seems the easiest way to prevent unauthorised use.
*assuming this is a client and not a hack!
VT
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CeneUJiti
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Posted - 2010.07.04 08:42:00 -
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Edited by: CeneUJiti on 04/07/2010 08:43:05
Originally by: ObviousTroll Alt
Originally by: CeneUJiti
Permabanning exploiters might help too.
Then the entire DEV team would have to Perma-ban themselves.
Wording/phrase****. They should permaban people who have used EULA violating tools and modifications to game code they are not authorized to have/use. Better now?
PS. Googling shows that issue with python injections has really been known for years. 1. Proof that this is legit. 2. Very sad it hasn't been fixed all these years.
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Shionoya Risa
The Xenodus Initiative.
Overclockers Podpilot Services
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Posted - 2010.07.04 08:42:00 -
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Originally by: ViperTan
Would not a GM/DEV client be locked to specific user accounts?
Seems the easiest way to prevent unauthorised use.
*assuming this is a client and not a hack!
VT
Yes, yes they would, should and are.
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Asperath Fernandez
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Posted - 2010.07.04 08:53:00 -
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Whoa.
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Victor Valka
Caldari
Endoxa Corporation
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Posted - 2010.07.04 08:57:00 -
[108]
I'm very surprised that this thread has remained open as long as it has. I'm not sure what that says about it.
Originally by: Spaztick
You are not outnumbered, you are in a target-rich environment.
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Drenan
State War Academy
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Posted - 2010.07.04 08:58:00 -
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This is going to spoil Hilmur's Sunday. 
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