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Astenion
Blame The Bunny
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Posted - 2010.07.04 17:07:00 -
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You had me right up until the whole "socialist tyrants" bit. I gotta disagree with you there; the US could use a bit of not necessarily socialism but a better social system. This whole, "what's mine is mine and I'll never give you a penny even if you're suffering" is the very same mentality that you're railing against with the big bankers and tycoons.
Abolish the Fed and outlaw lobbies and then we may actually get somewhere. Until then, the US is simply a sinking ship.
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Mazzarins Demise
Profit Development and Research Association
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Posted - 2010.07.04 17:09:00 -
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Sure, America is one country not without its problems and little quirks, but what country doesn't?
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Astenion
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Posted - 2010.07.04 17:13:00 -
[33]
 Originally by: Ace2001
Originally by: Astenion
Edited by: Astenion on 04/07/2010 15:10:11
Edited by: Astenion on 04/07/2010 15:04:26
Originally by: XenosisReaper
Originally by: Dan O'Connor
The American format is MM/DD -
WHY THOUGH? it's so stupid.
I'm not even going to try and reply to the poster before you, my brain can't process that much concentrated stupid.
No, it's not stupid. We don't say, "The tenth of May", we say "May tenth" or "May the tenth". It's written numerically how one would read it. Do you read backwards?
But we say "Happy 4th of July" not "Happy July 4th".. D: ....Don't we?
This has always confused me, as well. And whenever I need to date a form that doesn't list what format it wants, I always have to ask somebody what to put first, dd/mm or mm/dd.
I think we say this because it's an event, not just a date. We also say the day first sometimes anyway...it's not a hard and fast rule or anything, just a habit. For instance, "On May 5th, so-and-so's album will be released" is more common than "On the 5th of May...". It doesn't mean we never say it, it's just used less often.
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Astenion
Blame The Bunny
Bunny Nation
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Posted - 2010.07.04 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: Mazzarins Demise
Sure, America is one country not without its problems and little quirks, but what country doesn't?
You're not helping here. Please change "doesn't" to "is", unless you did that on purpose and it's an old Bush quote, in which case: lol.
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Mazzarins Demise
Profit Development and Research Association
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Posted - 2010.07.04 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: Astenion
Originally by: Mazzarins Demise
Sure, America is one country not without its problems and little quirks, but what country doesn't?
You're not helping here. Please change "doesn't" to "is", unless you did that on purpose and it's an old Bush quote, in which case: lol.
It can go either way. Having doesn't at the end of the sentence could mean, "...but what country doesn't have its problems and little quirks?"
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Vogue
Skynet Nexus
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Posted - 2010.07.04 17:26:00 -
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Robbie Coltrane did a documentary and he summed up the USA 'If its good - its really good, if its bad its really bad'. Which to me sums up a very dynamic country that has low taxation and less welfare than in Europe.
I have been to USA several times and generally really like Americans. They have courtesy, enthusiasm that us Brits lack.
A lot of the power elite in USA now talk about a lesser USA. Including the treasury secetary Tim Geithner. Empires don't give up easily. Could their be a war between USA and China in 20 years that could drag in other countries to a third world war.
Last week I watched the 'Ascent of Money'. Google it and watch it. Its a really good series of documentary programs about how money is interwoven with the rise of civilisations, their fall, wars, prosperity, etc.
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Ace2001
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.07.04 17:30:00 -
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Edited by: Ace2001 on 04/07/2010 17:30:34
Originally by: Astenion
I think we say this because it's an event, not just a date. We also say the day first sometimes anyway...it's not a hard and fast rule or anything, just a habit. For instance, "On May 5th, so-and-so's album will be released" is more common than "On the 5th of May...". It doesn't mean we never say it, it's just used less often.
True enough. I hear both forms spoken aloud quite often. I suppose that's where I get my confusion from when it comes to writing it down.
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Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2010.07.04 17:59:00 -
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Originally by: Mazzarins Demise
Originally by: Astenion
Originally by: Mazzarins Demise
Sure, America is one country not without its problems and little quirks, but what country doesn't?
You're not helping here. Please change "doesn't" to "is", unless you did that on purpose and it's an old Bush quote, in which case: lol.
It can go either way. Having doesn't at the end of the sentence could mean, "...but what country doesn't have its problems and little quirks?"
You already had "not without" hence making doesn't a redundant entity in the sentence. The correct grammar would either be;
Sure, America is one country not without its problems and little quirks, but what country is?
Or
Sure, America as a country has its [problems & quirks], but what country doesn't?
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Originally by: CCP Fallout
Been there. Done that. Need antibiotics.
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Arianhod
Red Dwarf Mining Corporation
space weaponry and trade
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Posted - 2010.07.04 18:00:00 -
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Originally by: Astenion
Who knows why we do half the **** we do? Sometimes it's beneficial to us, but sometimes it's just superfluous bull**** created by someone who just wants to be unique and not useful. This is the downside to not holding on for dear life to traditions; sometimes a tradition is a good thing. The English, however, are on the opposite end of the spectrum. That country is so mired in tradition that sometimes they can't see the benefit of breaking out of that cycle...however, some of their traditions make sense and are good traditions.
Holy **** I can't believe I'm the first to notice this, but take a look at this image for countries that have joined the 19th Century and gone Metric.
The traditions that we keep alive are mostly incidental and don't effect much, such as draging the new Speaker of the House of Commons to his seat. Traditional, incidental.
But keeping the Imperial system alive?
I guess one could say,
Originally by: Astenion
The Americans, however, are on the opposite end of the spectrum. That country is so mired in tradition that sometimes they can't see the benefit of breaking out of that cycle...however, some of their traditions make sense and are good traditions.
And as a note to everyone - this is a sort of tradition to play along with the whole Independence thing the Americans go on about every year.
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Mazzarins Demise
Profit Development and Research Association
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Posted - 2010.07.04 18:00:00 -
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Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Mazzarins Demise
Originally by: Astenion
Originally by: Mazzarins Demise
Sure, America is one country not without its problems and little quirks, but what country doesn't?
You're not helping here. Please change "doesn't" to "is", unless you did that on purpose and it's an old Bush quote, in which case: lol.
It can go either way. Having doesn't at the end of the sentence could mean, "...but what country doesn't have its problems and little quirks?"
You already had "not without" hence making doesn't a redundant entity in the sentence. The correct grammar would either be;
Sure, America is one country not without its problems and little quirks, but what country is?
Or
Sure, America as a country has its [problems & quirks], but what country doesn't?
Then I bow to a more distinguished user of the written form.
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Astenion
Blame The Bunny
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Posted - 2010.07.04 18:11:00 -
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Edited by: Astenion on 04/07/2010 18:12:32
Originally by: Arianhod
Originally by: Astenion
Who knows why we do half the **** we do? Sometimes it's beneficial to us, but sometimes it's just superfluous bull**** created by someone who just wants to be unique and not useful. This is the downside to not holding on for dear life to traditions; sometimes a tradition is a good thing. The English, however, are on the opposite end of the spectrum. That country is so mired in tradition that sometimes they can't see the benefit of breaking out of that cycle...however, some of their traditions make sense and are good traditions.
Holy **** I can't believe I'm the first to notice this, but take a look at this image for countries that have joined the 19th Century and gone Metric.
The traditions that we keep alive are mostly incidental and don't effect much, such as draging the new Speaker of the House of Commons to his seat. Traditional, incidental.
But keeping the Imperial system alive?
I guess one could say,
Originally by: Astenion
The Americans, however, are on the opposite end of the spectrum. That country is so mired in tradition that sometimes they can't see the benefit of breaking out of that cycle...however, some of their traditions make sense and are good traditions.
And as a note to everyone - this is a sort of tradition to play along with the whole Independence thing the Americans go on about every year.
Whoa, far be it from me to say that Americans aren't mired as well in stupid tradition...it's one of the things I loathe about it. However, England changed it out of necessity due to the EU and a huge influx of immigrants and that multiculturalism farce you've got going on over there. I know you're seriously not debating whether or not England is a country that holds a little too tightly to tradition, are you?
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Arianhod
Red Dwarf Mining Corporation
space weaponry and trade
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Posted - 2010.07.04 18:27:00 -
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Edited by: Arianhod on 04/07/2010 18:26:56
Originally by: Astenion
However, England changed it out of necessity due to the EU and a huge influx of immigrants and that multiculturalism farce you've got going on over there. I know you're seriously not debating whether or not England is a country that holds a little too tightly to tradition, are you?
I would argue that both the EU and the abandonment of obsolete tradition that got in the way of day to day operations was simple pragmatism. I agree the multiculturalism is a farce as there should be a monoculture that adapts and absorbs the practical bits of new ones, ie Curries.
Immigration is being fixed quite quickly from that I follow, implementing the Australian system and inernal EU migration is stabalised as old migrants return and new ones replace them, mainly in Poland.
And for the record, England!= Britain, as myself, Blane and a few others here would testify to. 
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Astenion
Blame The Bunny
Bunny Nation
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Posted - 2010.07.04 18:29:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Arianhod
Edited by: Arianhod on 04/07/2010 18:26:56
Originally by: Astenion
However, England changed it out of necessity due to the EU and a huge influx of immigrants and that multiculturalism farce you've got going on over there. I know you're seriously not debating whether or not England is a country that holds a little too tightly to tradition, are you?
I would argue that both the EU and the abandonment of obsolete tradition that got in the way of day to day operations was simple pragmatism. I agree the multiculturalism is a farce as there should be a monoculture that adapts and absorbs the practical bits of new ones, ie Curries.
Immigration is being fixed quite quickly from that I follow, implementing the Australian system and inernal EU migration is stabalised as old migrants return and new ones replace them, mainly in Poland.
And for the record, England!= Britain, as myself, Blane and a few others here would testify to.
Of course, I'm speaking about England and not Scotland, Wales, or Northern Ireland.
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AdmiralJohn
The Unknown Bar and Pub
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Posted - 2010.07.04 18:36:00 -
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There is no good reason that the Brits would want the Americans back.
Not a single one.
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Vogue
Skynet Nexus
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Posted - 2010.07.04 18:40:00 -
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Immigration into the UK has been allowed on such a scale for economic reasons. Having a bigger pool of ready labour keeps wage inflation down.
Polish people in particular work very hard. I worked in a hotel for a short while in the past and the Poles were reguarly doing 60 hour weeks.
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Zedic
Amarr
Universalis Imperium
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Posted - 2010.07.04 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer
stuff
oh god, you're one of those crazy militia dudes aren't you. LOL.
Meh, I'm safe from all of this crap as long as I remain in my cosmopolitan ivory tower of Chicago. It's like in Buck Rogers. When the rest of you go to ****, at least we'll still be ok (we'll just call it New Chicago). 
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Astenion
Blame The Bunny
Bunny Nation
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Posted - 2010.07.04 18:47:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Vogue
Immigration into the UK has been allowed on such a scale for economic reasons. Having a bigger pool of ready labour keeps wage inflation down.
Polish people in particular work very hard. I worked in a hotel for a short while in the past and the Poles were reguarly doing 60 hour weeks.
Immigration isn't the problem, it's the bending over your government is doing in order to appease immigrants and not offend their religion that's the problem. It's not a melting pot, it's dumping all over its native citizens for fear of offending someone's sensibilities.
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Vogue
Skynet Nexus
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Posted - 2010.07.04 18:51:00 -
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Edited by: Vogue on 04/07/2010 18:51:47
Your right when you say UK is not a multi racial melting pot. Its a liberal dream for a multi cultural Britain but it has not happened. Having immigrants take an oath of allegiance like they do in the USA is a good idea. When my mum first moved to USA with her American 2nd husband she had to revise on American history and the constitution and take a test.
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Zedic
Amarr
Universalis Imperium
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Posted - 2010.07.04 18:54:00 -
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I don't care what the UK is, there are some hot mofo's over there. I'll wave whatever flag they want if I can shag a few of them. 
And god, that accent. *melts*
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AdmiralJohn
The Unknown Bar and Pub
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Posted - 2010.07.04 18:57:00 -
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Originally by: Zedic
I don't care what the UK is, there are some hot mofo's over there. I'll wave whatever flag they want if I can shag a few of them.
And god, that accent. *melts*
I have never in my life heard people from the UK called "attractive", at least not people with ancestors from there.
FULL DISCLOSURE: I'm a quarter English, but I have enough French-Canadian blood in me to give me hope.
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Zedic
Amarr
Universalis Imperium
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Posted - 2010.07.04 19:00:00 -
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Originally by: AdmiralJohn
Originally by: Zedic
I don't care what the UK is, there are some hot mofo's over there. I'll wave whatever flag they want if I can shag a few of them.
And god, that accent. *melts*
I have never in my life heard people from the UK called "attractive", at least not people with ancestors from there.
FULL DISCLOSURE: I'm a quarter English, but I have enough French-Canadian blood in me to give me hope.
You don't hang around the same erm... "websites" that I do either... 
(pre-emptive shut it to Zion)
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Astenion
Blame The Bunny
Bunny Nation
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Posted - 2010.07.04 19:01:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Zedic
Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer
stuff
oh god, you're one of those crazy militia dudes aren't you. LOL.
Meh, I'm safe from all of this crap as long as I remain in my cosmopolitan ivory tower of Chicago. It's like in Buck Rogers. When the rest of you go to ****, at least we'll still be ok (we'll just call it New Chicago).
No, I wouldn't say that. At least I hope he isn't...I gathered from it that he's in the military. However, now that you mention it, he does sound somewhat like a crazy militia gun-nut when put in that context.
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Posted - 2010.07.04 19:04:00 -
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Originally by: AdmiralJohn
Originally by: Zedic
I don't care what the UK is, there are some hot mofo's over there. I'll wave whatever flag they want if I can shag a few of them.
And god, that accent. *melts*
I have never in my life heard people from the UK called "attractive", at least not people with ancestors from there.
FULL DISCLOSURE: I'm a quarter English, but I have enough French-Canadian blood in me to give me hope.
Theres lots of attractive people here in the UK... and I'm one of them. 
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Astenion
Blame The Bunny
Bunny Nation
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Posted - 2010.07.04 19:13:00 -
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There's another thing that Americans have to stop doing: saying they're English/Scottish/Irish/Welsh. No, you're not...you're American. Just because 500 years ago two people f*cked doesn't mean you resemble or possess any trait remotely identifiable with the aforementioned countries. Same goes for people saying they're Italian...knock that sh!t off. If you don't speak the language, don't know anything about the culture, and don't have living, close blood relatives living there, you're still just American.
I'm American, but I live in Italy. I also speak Italian, but I don't go around telling people I'm Italian. And for the record, Italian spoken in the US is about as close to the Italian language as a f*cking dog barking. Knock it off, dammit.
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AdmiralJohn
The Unknown Bar and Pub
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Posted - 2010.07.04 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: Astenion
There's another thing that Americans have to stop doing: saying they're English/Scottish/Irish/Welsh. No, you're not...you're American. Just because 500 years ago two people f*cked doesn't mean you resemble or possess any trait remotely identifiable with the aforementioned countries. Same goes for people saying they're Italian...knock that sh!t off. If you don't speak the language, don't know anything about the culture, and don't have living, close blood relatives living there, you're still just American.
I'm American, but I live in Italy. I also speak Italian, but I don't go around telling people I'm Italian. And for the record, Italian spoken in the US is about as close to the Italian language as a f*cking dog barking. Knock it off, dammit.
I'll tell my grandfather it doesn't count. I even speak the language!
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baltec1
Antares Shipyards
Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.04 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: Astenion
You should look up "aluminum" in Webster's American Dictionary.
Why? Its an english word....
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Astenion
Blame The Bunny
Bunny Nation
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Posted - 2010.07.04 20:18:00 -
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Originally by: AdmiralJohn
Originally by: Astenion
There's another thing that Americans have to stop doing: saying they're English/Scottish/Irish/Welsh. No, you're not...you're American. Just because 500 years ago two people f*cked doesn't mean you resemble or possess any trait remotely identifiable with the aforementioned countries. Same goes for people saying they're Italian...knock that sh!t off. If you don't speak the language, don't know anything about the culture, and don't have living, close blood relatives living there, you're still just American.
I'm American, but I live in Italy. I also speak Italian, but I don't go around telling people I'm Italian. And for the record, Italian spoken in the US is about as close to the Italian language as a f*cking dog barking. Knock it off, dammit.
I'll tell my grandfather it doesn't count. I even speak the language!
No no, your grandfather is still alive...people like you aren't who I'm referring to. It's the people who looked up their family's coat of arms on some internet site and decided that they're now Scots or French or Italian because someone had their coat of arms and a similar last name 500 years ago.
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Zedic
Amarr
Universalis Imperium
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Posted - 2010.07.04 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: Astenion
There's another thing that Americans have to stop doing: saying they're English/Scottish/Irish/Welsh. No, you're not...you're American. Just because 500 years ago two people f*cked doesn't mean you resemble or possess any trait remotely identifiable with the aforementioned countries. Same goes for people saying they're Italian...knock that sh!t off. If you don't speak the language, don't know anything about the culture, and don't have living, close blood relatives living there, you're still just American.
I'm American, but I live in Italy. I also speak Italian, but I don't go around telling people I'm Italian. And for the record, Italian spoken in the US is about as close to the Italian language as a f*cking dog barking. Knock it off, dammit.
Don't be a douche. The unique thing about being American is that everyone is descending from immigrants and everyone is proud of that fact. My family on both sides are Irish Protestant. Of course we're Americans now - duh - you barking tribble humper. There's even a smattering of Native American in there. Our family came from Belfast (my father's anyway, not sure where my mother's did, but probably same since we've never in many generations been catholic.
SO:
Douchebags on both sides of this argument aside: I realize most of this thread is nothing more than badly written trolls, based on the OP's play out email forward letter from several years ago. But would EU / UK players really be nasty to us Americans should we all meet up for a beer or 6? Really? I don't think that would be the case. Historically, the Brits have been our strongest allies - more capable of putting up with our **** than other nationalities and lets face it: Americans are *******s and annoying to be around.
Almost as bad as the French. Now there's a rude bunch of people if I ever saw them. I was in Dublin for my birthday a couple years ago. All the nice foreigners (i.e. me and others) were queued up waiting for the next bus into the city. Here comes a herd of Frenchmen. mobbing in front of us, storming the bus, and cursing in french - not to mention talking **** about everyone else on the bus in french because they probably thought nobody else spoke their language.
The old Irishman sitting next to us told us they're always like that, very very rude.
SO - I blame Canada *AND* the France.
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baltec1
Antares Shipyards
Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.04 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: Zedic
the France.
I think you mean "the French" and yes, we too blame them for what happened.
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Astenion
Blame The Bunny
Bunny Nation
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Posted - 2010.07.04 20:25:00 -
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Originally by: baltec1
Originally by: Astenion
You should look up "aluminum" in Webster's American Dictionary.
Why? Its an english word....
They pronounce it "aluminium" with an "i" instead of "aluminum" without the "i". It's just silliness is all. I kinda like the fact that things are so different. If everything were the same we'd all be as boring as the British (kidding!).  There are those who view things as being proper and those who view proper things as having lack of imagination. Different strokes for different folks.
Still, English humor is the greatest in the world. No contest. Nothing's funnier than a sharp, subtle, biting wit. The thing I've always liked about the English was that they could take it as well as dish it out, and they tend to dish it out liberally. They don't have the same sensibilities as Americans and tend to speak ill of their best friends just as much as they would of someone they didn't like, which makes it all the more funny.
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