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Meiyang Lee
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Posted - 2010.07.04 21:15:00 -
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 Originally by: Furb Killer
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and oh, an anti-air destroyer? meh any well equipped task force has enough alternatives anyway
Euhm pretty much every well equipped task force has a dedicated anti-air ship.
At least it has better radar systems than US ships, dunno about the rest really.
About 75% chance of that radar being Dutch.  We do make the best in the world.
As are the goalkeeper guns on it.
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Meiyang Lee
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Posted - 2010.07.04 21:24:00 -
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Originally by: baltec1
Agreement on dutch goalkeepers being better than english ones.
 I wasn't talking about the football kind.
Goalkeeper cannon are designed to take out anti-ship missiles at short range.
They're a Dutch developed weapon-system.
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Meiyang Lee
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Posted - 2010.07.05 06:55:00 -
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Edited by: Meiyang Lee on 05/07/2010 07:01:54
Originally by: Jhagiti Tyran
Originally by: baltec1
Look at what the other úbillion went on
Out of interest does anyone who knows about naval warfare know how the Astute class compared to say the US Seawolf and Virginia class?
Slightly shorter (97m vs 115m), a bit wider (11.3m vs 10) than a Virginia Class, about 4 knots faster than a Virginia, 6 knots slower than a Seawolf, both values while submerged.
Smaller crew (98) compared to the Virginia's 134 and Seawolf's 140, but no hot-bunking needed, 1 bunk per crewmember.
2 More Tubes than a Virginia, but 2 less than a Seawolf. Comparable armaments though, Tomahawk Cruise Missiles, Harpoon Anti-Ship Missiles and Torpedoes (not sure how US Mk48 Torps compare to British Spearfish).
The Astute uses Pump-Jet propulsion rather than an advanced Propeller design like both Virginia and Seawolf Classes, so potentially it's a bit stealthier than either of those 2.
The Astute also has a highly advanced sensor package for a sub it's size, but I'm not certain how it compares to say the Seawolf's which is rather good as well.
Like most British submarines it has a hardened conning tower to break through pack ice if needed.
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Posted - 2010.07.05 09:18:00 -
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Edited by: Meiyang Lee on 05/07/2010 09:18:59
Originally by: baltec1
Everything said above is at least what is possible for the new sub but we also have to keep in mind that the top speed, sonar range (which they say can hear a tug boat in new york from southhampton) and most other things are classified. It is safe to say though that it is currently the most advanced sub in the sea
The Wikipedia page for the Astute is surprisingly comprehensive with clear citations all over the place. I got all the info posted above from there, so while it may understate some of the actual stats of the vessel, the info on it's sonar suite and such is very comprehensive, with most components named along with it's manufacturer. It's passive/active sonar package is quite impressive indeed with a range of thousands of miles.
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