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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2010.07.06 16:37:00 -
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My hypothesis was that the Jove just engineered themselves to the point where all primal motivators ceased to function. This will lead to terminal depression should a lack of other purpose and motivation appear. By the time this was discovered, going back to older genetic makeups was no longer possible or the data was destroyed in some incident or another.
Now the Jove are trying to figure out which parts of the genetic makeup of the lesser races is actually representing those motivators, so they can put them back into their own makeup again. For this they gave the empires capsuleer technology which will allow the Jove to monitor and compare a large amount of very ambitious individuals, including complete brain scans and the subjects full DNA.
Once they managed to cure themselves, they may or may not wipe the lab clean and do something else with the newly acquired free space.
Or they are trying to use the Rogue Drones to achieve complete transhuman ascension by uploading their brains into anorganic lifeforms using lost sleeper technology, who were, among other things, masters of virtualization. Would explain why they intervened in such a decisive manner in the events leading to the Seyllin incident and the opening of the wormholes.
Considering some Sansha homeworld got blasted during that event, it's not surprising that the Sansha are up to something around that matter. Either seeking vengeance or they happen to have found out something of significance during or after the event that they are now using to gain power over the empires, which by itself is a act of vengeance, considering who destroyed Sansha's Nation back in the days.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2010.07.06 16:49:00 -
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 Originally by: Eventy One
Originally by: Abrazzar
My hypothesis was that the Jove ...
What's your take on CCP Dropbear's suggestion that player's haven't fully discovered all there is to discover about wh space?
Is there still story to be discovered? (that is in fact discoverable)
I think it's not only a matter of finding all puzzle pieces, which we may or may not have found, but also in putting them together the right way. Considering that we don't know how the picture is supposed to look like, the latter may be the more challenging effort in this whole story.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2010.07.07 15:00:00 -
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Originally by: Pottsey
I need to reread it. But I thought it was along the lines of the Jove say the gate is not what people think it is. The Jove enter the wormhole and we get something like ôthe scientist saw that she had grown angry ...The Jovian shielded his eyes as EVE lashed out and engulfed the Eidolonö written in a way that the Jove ship was destroyed very soon after entering. Not enough time to get though to the other side. But I need to re read it as it has been a long time. But I am unable to get to my book for hours yet.
I just re-read that part quick and it says nothing about entering the wormhole, just that it ...was hurled through Point Genesis, which - contrary to Empire lore - was not all what it seemed." And calling EVE a 'she' is, I think, less meant to hint at EVE being alive and a female but more a play of words with 'Eve' being a female name.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2010.07.10 20:54:00 -
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Originally by: Jove X
Doesn't Oruze = Oruse?
Anyone go and check the wormholes out leading from there out. Maybe there's a frequent link to an otherwise hidden/isolated w-space system.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2010.07.11 09:14:00 -
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Originally by: Eventy One
My bet is that the Sansha's are re-animated 'sleepers'. I base this on the report ISHAEKA-0016 which classifies the sleeper culture as a 'download culture'.
Sansha's use implants. Sleepers are master of virtual reality. What if they are trying to break back out of their Virtual Reality?
I always thought that Sansha's Nation was created by the use of Capsule technology. Which makes sense in as such that with some modifications you get people controlled by implants instead of people controlling ships through implants.
So in effect, Sansha himself could run his whole nation pretty much like a Capsuleer can run a ship. Using the True Slaves as a kind of neural command network relay that control the lower drones in a hierarchical pyramid pattern. One pod to rule them all, so to say.
And when the "pilot" of the Nation got removed the remnants were just doing routine maintenance tasks, at least until a new head came back recently, be it the original, a backup clone or a impostor.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2010.07.11 18:21:00 -
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Originally by: Gecko O'Bac
More interesting is the fact that either the Blood Raiders were fooled into triggering the event or, more probably, if was foreseen by an ancient race. Which race? No idea, chronicle doesn't hint in any direction. If it wasn't for the fact that Sansha are new I'd have said that given their current interest in WHs it could have been them, but I doubt they had such technology in the first place.
Something more ancient and with perhaps some ties to wormhole studies, time travel and the like are better candidates, though I don't know if there even is such a race.
The incident was facilitated by the Jove who gave the Thukker people some code to get around the Rogue Drones at the Isogen-5 hive, which allowed them to pop the whole thing. If anyone knew what was going to happen, it was the Jove. Hell, they may have sealed off w-space to begin with to keep the plague out of the cluster.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2010.07.11 18:39:00 -
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Aren't wormhole systems named after their locus coordinates?
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2010.07.11 18:47:00 -
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Originally by: Gecko O'Bac
Sources?
I'd like to comment only after having read the original source but I kinda think that while the Jove may have known what was going to happen, they weren't the race that prepared everything in the first place.
Sorry, got my memory mixed up. Thought the Thukkers hacked the drones but instead the Blood Raiders did get the code from their boss. Though it may have been provided by the Society of Conscious thought. Chronicle: End of the World, The Great Harvest
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2010.07.13 13:46:00 -
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Originally by: Eventy One
Originally by: Pottsey
According to the recent rogue drone chronicle in Eon the drones are experimenting on humans. They have labs and chamber after chamber of humans to test with. Keeping those humans alive requires a suitable gravity-environment and atmosphere to survive. The drones have also been building/cloning human bodyÆs to walk amongst us. In the story one of the Characters pretty much said everything we know about rogue drones is out-dated and wrong right before a drone I think downloaded its self into her body.
Now that's just frightening. And the behavior of 'downloading oneself into a human body, is reminiscent of both Sansha's and the sleepers.
I don't get EON. Where they 'normal', 'run-of-the-mill' drones in this story? Behaviors such as this certainly do suggest that there is more to the drones we see all the time.
There is this 'New Frontier' mission line (lvl3) that has some human professor living around rogue drones and later becoming one of them by turning into some kind of nano-goo, infecting other ships.
Maybe they're not trying to download into people but upload people into the hive.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2010.07.16 11:35:00 -
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So Oruze is on the one hand a thread or line and from some permutations starlight or stars, combining in it threads of stars of lines between the stars which could be wormholes.
Lots of conjecture but, hey, it makes sense. 
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