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Quetazal Gallente Fine Trades Sandbox Bullies	Posted - 2010.07.09 16:46:00 - [1] Edited by: Quetazal on 09/07/2010 16:49:31 Edited by: Quetazal on 09/07/2010 16:46:04 re: http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=776 PLEXs are the closest item to RL money in eve, CCP are going to allow a chance for PLEX to be destroyed upon drop. The value of every item in EVE is virtual except plex. Each PLEX as it stands is a binding agreement for CCP to provide 30 days gametime. This petition is to ask for PLEX to have a special status of no-destroy upon drop to allow these items to stay in our economy; please sign YES (un-destroyable) or NO (allow them to be destroyed) (no discussions please as there are plenty of threads on it). Next Monday July the 12th I will count the votes and let the players voices be heard. I came, I saw, I downloaded.
Amerilia	Posted - 2010.07.09 16:46:00 - [2] NEITHER (wrong forum section)
Narfas Deteis	Posted - 2010.07.09 16:47:00 - [3] NO
Intense Thinker Minmatar	Posted - 2010.07.09 16:47:00 - [4] Edited by: Intense Thinker on 09/07/2010 16:47:15 No, PLEX is an in-game item like any other. If you're stupid enough to get popped with it it makes for awesome loot Originally by: captain foivos It's not griefing, it's surprise PvP.
Messoroz	Posted - 2010.07.09 16:50:00 - [5] Originally by: Quetazal Edited by: Quetazal on 09/07/2010 16:46:04 re: http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=776 PLEXs are the closest item to RL money in eve, CCP are going to allow a chance for PLEX to be destroyed upon drop. The value of every item in EVE is virtual except plex. Each PLEX as it stands is a binding agreement for CCP to provide 30 days gametime. This petition is to ask for PLEX to have a special status of no-destroy upon drop to allow these items to stay in our economy; please sign YES (un-destroyable) or NO (allow them to be destroyed) (no discussions please as there are plenty of threads on it). Next Monday July the 12th I will count the votes and let the players voices be heard. Quote: Well, really, we don't like items having "special status" in the game. Their value should be determined by the player demand (isk bid price) at any time. Placing artificial restraints on any item automatically makes it more special to people so we're removing those.
Hanneshannes	Posted - 2010.07.09 16:53:00 - [6] Originally by: Intense Thinker Edited by: Intense Thinker on 09/07/2010 16:47:15 No, PLEX is an in-game item like any other. If you're stupid enough to get popped with it it makes for awesome loot Please train reading comprehension past lvl 1. I say Yes, make them undestructable.
Aerilis Gallente Percussive Diplomacy	Posted - 2010.07.09 16:54:00 - [7] Wait, why would anyone want it NOT to be dropped? I mean if I ganked a badger full of PLEXs I sure as hell hope they drop. I think it's a pretty good idea, but good luck getting CCP to implement it. Every PLEX destroyed is a free $15 directly in their pockets.
Arkanor Gallente Ixion Defence Systems	Posted - 2010.07.09 16:55:00 - [8] It's clearly stated in their blog that they want to remove the "special case" of PLEX and treat it like a regular item. Making it indestructible is another special case. No.
Sneaky Neko Echoes of Reality	Posted - 2010.07.09 17:45:00 - [9] No Your reasoning is flawed. While a PLEX will give you more game time it is still bought and sold using ISK. What makes it more valuable then, say, a capital BPO that could be sold for many PLEXs? A PLEX is worth it's current market value just like every other item in EVE, nothing more.
Kweel Nakashyn shadow and cloaking Yggdrasill.	Posted - 2010.07.09 17:47:00 - [10] Yes Why ? irl gambling's laws ~ We don't really needed the world cup anyway.

Cory Sopapilla Minmatar Kiroshi Group	Posted - 2010.07.09 18:09:00 - [11] Definitely not. I agree with their reasoning behind making it an item like any other item. That being said, I wouldn't mind them being a 300M ISK old style doomsday effect upon destruction
Maria Yumeno	Posted - 2010.07.09 18:14:00 - [12] Originally by: Quetazal Edited by: Quetazal on 09/07/2010 16:49:31 Edited by: Quetazal on 09/07/2010 16:46:04 re: http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=776 PLEXs are the closest item to RL money in eve, CCP are going to allow a chance for PLEX to be destroyed upon drop. The value of every item in EVE is virtual except plex. Each PLEX as it stands is a binding agreement for CCP to provide 30 days gametime. This petition is to ask for PLEX to have a special status of no-destroy upon drop to allow these items to stay in our economy; please sign YES (un-destroyable) or NO (allow them to be destroyed) (no discussions please as there are plenty of threads on it). Next Monday July the 12th I will count the votes and let the players voices be heard. Being able to destroy them won't affect the economy as such, however seeing as there only a limited supply of them (that can only be replenished by rl monies) it will increase their isk value. Also it is free money on ccp's part. Smart move for them as it will generate a fair bit of money each month for them. I would vote yes on principle.
Aineko Macx	Posted - 2010.07.09 18:16:00 - [13] NO. There is no difference between a PLEX and another item worth about the same. Why treat it differently? Making it indestructible will just increase the chance of ganks, as the item is guaranteed to drop.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.07.09 18:27:00 - [14] hells no they shant be made indestructible. That would be thilly. This is clearly a signature.
Atedar Kerane Silentium Mortalitas	Posted - 2010.07.09 18:29:00 - [15] NO NO NO PLEX is not a binding agreement for CCP to provide the gametime. So far, it was YOUR choice whether you decided to activate it or not. If you do not activate, you do not get the gametime. JUST like it is now your decision on whether you will be a dumbass and go get killed in low sec in your shuttle carrying 6 PLEX's And no, you are not gambeling with money. There's no way to exchange PLEX to Dollars. I understand your concern, that effectivly PLEX's lost, might result in more PLEX bought, thus it might be a marketing move by CCP, however, I don't see why you would be bothered. If you don't want to lose your PLEX, don't undock it. - simple
Ori Blake	Posted - 2010.07.09 18:34:00 - [16] No, because this is a stealth boost to gankers, so that they will always get a plex dropping if they kill someone who is stupid and has one in the hold. If CCP is going to be idiotic and make this feature, it shouldn't be a 100% drop for suicide gankers to pay their fees with.
Matalino	Posted - 2010.07.09 18:47:00 - [17] No! I support this boost to CCP's revenue at the cost of players' stupidity.
Liang Nuren Parsec Flux War.Pigs.	Posted - 2010.07.09 18:52:00 - [18] Originally by: Ori Blake No, because this is a stealth boost to gankers, so that they will always get a plex dropping if they kill someone who is stupid and has one in the hold. If CCP is going to be idiotic and make this feature, it shouldn't be a 100% drop for suicide gankers to pay their fees with. Don't listen to this person. PLEX SHOULD ALWAYS DROP YA YA YA! -Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2010.07.09 18:55:00 - [19] NO! If you're reckless enough to move your PLEX around (since you can activate them from anywhere in the galaxy, there is no reason to move them except if you want to put them up for a PUBLIC sale somewhere else), you're also accepting the possibility of a loss. Losing a PLEX is no better nor worse than losing any other item worth about 300 mil ISK at this time. For the person doing the killing, a PLEX is just another item worth roughly 300 mil ISK - if you make it "always drop", you only ENCOURAGE more frequent ganking of people that carry PLEX, getting the exact opposite effect of that desired by the OP ! PLEXes might be the closest thing to RL cash in EVE, but they're still just another in-game item, and should receive no special treatment. Also, more PLEX destroyed = more potential cash in the future for CCP. And that is a GOOD thing for all of us. Besides, all in-game items are considered property of CCP, as per EULA/TOS _ Beginner's ISK making guide \| Manufacturer's helper \| All about reacting _
Camios Minmatar Insurgent New Eden Tribe	Posted - 2010.07.09 19:01:00 - [20] LOL!!! A plex is an ingame item someonr bought with RL money. Its value is not different from any item that costs as many isks as it does. CCP gave you the new option to transport a plex. Nobody forces you to place a plex in your cargohold and go around, you can do the old way. So, NO.

Julius Rigel	Posted - 2010.07.09 19:04:00 - [21] NO HTFU
Mme Pinkerton United Engineering Services	Posted - 2010.07.09 19:07:00 - [22] Edited by: Mme Pinkerton on 09/07/2010 19:09:02 YES! don't let CCP weasel out of its service obligations to customers CCP wants to have the cake (subscription fees in coming months) and eat it too (money right now from selling PLEXes) - that's not a sound approach to business and should not be encouraged.
Ran Khanon Amarr Vengeance Innovations	Posted - 2010.07.09 19:07:00 - [23] Edited by: Ran Khanon on 09/07/2010 19:14:39 No. Ship 'splodes, contents should have a chance to get severely damaged in the process, whatever the implications. edit: Also if they would be indestructible there would be no risk vs. reward in suicide ganking a ship carrying plex anymore. Guaranteed drop means you know exactly how much you will gain by killing the ship and thus, exactly how much you can spend on getting the job done. Maybe we should be able to salvage a couple of days of game time from a wreck carrying plexes though lolz :P I agree with everything Barakkus posts.
The Wholesale	Posted - 2010.07.09 19:12:00 - [24] Not going to happen. This allows real-life money bought plexes to be destroyed, resulting in the need to buy another plex, resulting in the need to buy a time card, resulting in double the cash for the same item for CCP. The perfect cycle. Brilliant move on CCP.
Cromo Effect	Posted - 2010.07.09 19:13:00 - [25] All of you are fools! PLEX's can never leave the station they are bought in. So you can't undock with them, much less get blown up and them drop/be destroyed. Stupid noobs.
Ran Khanon Amarr Vengeance Innovations	Posted - 2010.07.09 19:16:00 - [26] Originally by: Cromo Effect All of you are fools! PLEX's can never leave the station they are bought in. So you can't undock with them, much less get blown up and them drop/be destroyed. Stupid noobs. You just made an incredible fool of yourself. (unless you're just a very bad troll) I agree with everything Barakkus posts.
Mavrk Minmatar TOP GUHN	Posted - 2010.07.09 19:26:00 - [27] Edited by: Mavrk on 09/07/2010 19:31:52 Edited by: Mavrk on 09/07/2010 19:26:58 Originally by: Ran Khanon Originally by: Cromo Effect All of you are fools! PLEX's can never leave the station they are bought in. So you can't undock with them, much less get blown up and them drop/be destroyed. Stupid noobs. You just made an incredible fool of yourself. (unless you're just a very bad troll) I myself was honestly about to say that as well. I had no clue there was a dev blog out about it, just kinda assumed the normal Gen Discussion Tomfoolerly... talk about getting blind sided scurries off to read it edit 1: completely missed link in OP because of cloud of edit notices edit 2: I put the actual hyper link in, as should the OP to keep tards like us from poasting : http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=776 Also, I don't support making them indestructible, and neither does CCP. Read the blog. I know I did --- I'm not trying to be a turd on purpose. I'm just telling you how you are wrong. Ok, yeah, its on purpose.
Takashi Halamoto No Limit Productions Looney Toons.	Posted - 2010.07.09 19:30:00 - [28] Originally by: Mme Pinkerton Edited by: Mme Pinkerton on 09/07/2010 19:09:02 YES! don't let CCP weasel out of its service obligations to customers CCP wants to have the cake (subscription fees in coming months) and eat it too (money right now from selling PLEXes) - that's not a sound approach to business and should not be encouraged. how are they weaseling? if you buy plex for yourself you apply it without it ever leaving station, you get service, now if you choose to try and trade it up for more isk, its your own greed killing you, BECAUSE YOU CAN REDEEM PLEX ANYWHERE AFTER THEY MAKE THE CHANGE SO THERE IS NO REASON YOU EVER NEED CARRY THE DAMN THING, so instead of getting my plex in an empire station and flying out to my null home, i can just log in my null home AND REDEEM RIGHT THERE then anyone in hte same region can buy and redeem without it ever undocking, the claim anywhere change makes the concept of moving plex pointless and worthless unless your a speculator planning to buy them for isk in jita and move them to null to sell at higher prices, in which case its your own damn fault again i might change my tune if someone presents a real case where there is a good reason to move a plex that dosnt involve you being insane Me? im just sitting here,
Fanfares	Posted - 2010.07.09 19:35:00 - [29] No
omgevenmoarfreemoniez	Posted - 2010.07.09 19:36:00 - [30] YES If they are destructible, PLEX prices will spike horribly.



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