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Cobalt Sixty
Caldari
Intercision
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Posted - 2010.07.10 03:39:00 -
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 Originally by: Bankoff DarkFusion
If you think this is the sign of a company that is acting in good faith with you, you're welcome to put up with it. I've canceled my accounts and don't intend to play after 8/3/10, when the current billing period is over.
ATTENTION CCP GAME MODERATORS
Please ban Bankoff DarkFusion. This will serve at least three purposes I can think of.
1) It will help Bankoff DarkFusion stick to his word and finally become a man in the eyes of dusky maidens everywhere.
2) It will serve as an example to anyone else who says they're quitting and think this is some sort of valid supporting argument for their opinion. Or that we give a flying fire truck.
3) It would be hilarious if he is lying. Which he probably is. Come on, you know you want to.
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.07.10 04:07:00 -
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Originally by: Bankoff DarkFusion
The new plex changes look a lot like fraud.
CCP is selling the time codes and converting them to plex.
CCP determines the percentage of loot that is destroyed in its algorithms within the game.
CCP is therefore selling the plexes and determining their survival rate when they are destroyed in cargo.
CCP is aware that the market will make selling the plexes at a distance attractive.
CCP is therefore selling a product that is to extend timeplay and determining the rate at which these will be destroyed. This will relieve CCP of the burden of providing the service that it has sold customers. In effect, CCP is selling a product, knowing that a certain percentage of that product will be rendered useless by its own game mechanics.
If you think this is the sign of a company that is acting in good faith with you, you're welcome to put up with it. I've canceled my accounts and don't intend to play after 8/3/10, when the current billing period is over.
Of course they are acting in good faith with me. they give me a way to play the game without ever paying. They give me the option redeem my plex card for game hours and make sure that said plex card is 100% valid and redeemable.
I for one do not want your stuff because it is tainted with fail.
See you in stormwind city.
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Jason Babbage
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Posted - 2010.07.10 05:30:00 -
[33]
I just don't get the rage on this?
There is zero reason to EVER leave a station with a plex in your hold, so why allt he rage? I guess I'm just confused.
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plastastic
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Posted - 2010.07.10 05:46:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Sith LordX
Originally by: Bankoff DarkFusion
The new plex changes look a lot like fraud.
CCP is selling the time codes and converting them to plex.
CCP determines the percentage of loot that is destroyed in its algorithms within the game.
CCP is therefore selling the plexes and determining their survival rate when they are destroyed in cargo.
CCP is aware that the market will make selling the plexes at a distance attractive.
CCP is therefore selling a product that is to extend timeplay and determining the rate at which these will be destroyed. This will relieve CCP of the burden of providing the service that it has sold customers. In effect, CCP is selling a product, knowing that a certain percentage of that product will be rendered useless by its own game mechanics.
If you think this is the sign of a company that is acting in good faith with you, you're welcome to put up with it. I've canceled my accounts and don't intend to play after 8/3/10, when the current billing period is over.
CCP is not forcing you to undock with plex cards silly. You can use them right away from anyplace.
you cant even un-dock with them
only way to transfer them to another station is stick them into redeemed items move to that station and redeem the item again
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Talaan Stardrifter
Universal Exports
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Posted - 2010.07.10 06:18:00 -
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Originally by: Sol Lethe
Originally by: Krispy Dingo
Also, what is the difference between losing a PLEX, or selling a PLEX and then losing the ship that you just bought with that ISK?
The difference is that in the latter case, the game time still exists, just in a different player's hands. The problem with the former case is that CCP just made money for nothing. PLEX should not be destroyable, period; it should ALWAYS appear in the wreck so the game time is just transfered instead of disappearing into CCP's pocket.
I agree with this.
Eve is Darwinism at its finest, but Game Time is Game Time and should not be destructible.
The Plex cards themselves should always drop as loot.
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Pesky LaRue
Minmatar
Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels
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Posted - 2010.07.10 06:51:00 -
[36]
Originally by: plastastic
you cant even un-dock with them
only way to transfer them to another station is stick them into redeemed items move to that station and redeem the item again
cough cough
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Raquella Anticide
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Posted - 2010.07.10 07:50:00 -
[37]
Originally by: plastastic
Originally by: Sith LordX
Originally by: Bankoff DarkFusion
The new plex changes look a lot like fraud.
CCP is selling the time codes and converting them to plex.
CCP determines the percentage of loot that is destroyed in its algorithms within the game.
CCP is therefore selling the plexes and determining their survival rate when they are destroyed in cargo.
CCP is aware that the market will make selling the plexes at a distance attractive.
CCP is therefore selling a product that is to extend timeplay and determining the rate at which these will be destroyed. This will relieve CCP of the burden of providing the service that it has sold customers. In effect, CCP is selling a product, knowing that a certain percentage of that product will be rendered useless by its own game mechanics.
If you think this is the sign of a company that is acting in good faith with you, you're welcome to put up with it. I've canceled my accounts and don't intend to play after 8/3/10, when the current billing period is over.
CCP is not forcing you to undock with plex cards silly. You can use them right away from anyplace.
you cant even un-dock with them
only way to transfer them to another station is stick them into redeemed items move to that station and redeem the item again
This takes the cake for this craptastic thread. We should prolly just end on this cause it can't get any worse.
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Dan O'Connor
Cerberus Network
Dignitas.
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Posted - 2010.07.10 10:13:00 -
[38]
Originally by: plastastic
you cant even un-dock with them
Is that your final answer?
Item DB | Sigs
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Khun SP
Paramite Factories
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Posted - 2010.07.10 11:08:00 -
[39]
0.01m3
hmmmmmmz can I hold 1k PLEXes in my shiny shuttle??? I will buy in Jita (cheap) undock and autopilot to Rens 
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Makar Kravchenko
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Posted - 2010.07.10 11:38:00 -
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In with "x-ing up for Rancer perma-camp..."
OP, think about it.
1. You buy a GTC, split it into 2 plex
2. Sell the plex on contracts, buy a 600mil isk module
3. Insert local smack here
4. You die with the 600mil isk module fitted on your ship
5. CCP is not responsible
6. The guy who killed you PROFITS!
How is this scenerio any different from just outright getting blown up with the PLEX in cargo?
Yes some moron is going to shuttle from Jita to Rens with 6 PLEX in his cargo at some point and lose probably 75% of them. It's the same thing as him flying a Deadspace fit Marauder back from Jita through Rancer, and getting blown up.
Come back to reality bro.
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Spurty
Caldari
D00M.
RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.07.10 11:57:00 -
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I don't understand why anyone would move them. Now you can redeem them outside of npc stations there is no need for 0.0 dwellers to race to empire for their game time.
Can claim in your 0.0 station now.
Undocking with them no longer makes any sense. Infact it makes even less LOL
NAPS: forcing you to play 'their' game |
ZenSun
Total Mayhem.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2010.07.10 12:06:00 -
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To be honest, getting ganked requires an element of 'special' skill - I fly implants/light but expensive items in a covops.
There is an abundance of this particular whine, its not constructive, we know about it, you know about it... so come up with something a little more constructive than just clarification of how many tears you have managed to collect in your jar.
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Hainnz
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2010.07.10 12:11:00 -
[43]
Wonder how many plex I can fit in my Primae? |
rootimus maximus
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2010.07.10 15:06:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Bankoff DarkFusion
The new plex changes look a lot like fraud.
I'm going to take a wild stab in the dark here: you don't know the first thing about law. Or, in the alternative, you live in a really bizarre country with even more bizarre laws.
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Forum Joe
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Posted - 2010.07.10 17:36:00 -
[45]
Well, I know nothing about Icelandic laws.
But if Iceland joins the European Union, CCP will have to adapt to EU's laws, or die.
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Gladys Pank
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.07.11 06:36:00 -
[46]
Only a freaking moron would think a PLEX has any real life monetary value.
You choose to spend money on an item in an internet spaceship game well known for having you lose your shit easily then too bad stupid.
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Jill Xelitras
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.07.11 06:49:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Gladys Pank
Only a freaking moron would think a PLEX has any real life monetary value.
Absolutely correct. It's just that I hate being so blunt and hurt people's feelings.
Odd, I think I have a dTja-vu.
Jill.
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Zhou Zhen
Amarr
Galactic Express
The Spire Collective
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Posted - 2010.07.11 07:41:00 -
[48]
There is no reason you ever have to move the item out of a station.
Just because you can do a thing, does not mean you have to do that thing.
Use some common sense.
The removal of restriction of just NPC stations is good, was hard to get them in 0.0, sides we all leave jc's behind anyway wherever we live just in case.
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DuKackBoon
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Posted - 2010.07.11 08:21:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Sol Lethe
The difference is that in the latter case, the game time still exists, just in a different player's hands. The problem with the former case is that CCP just made money for nothing. PLEX should not be destroyable, period; it should ALWAYS appear in the wreck so the game time is just transfered instead of disappearing into CCP's pocket.
Fail. If you buy a PLEX with IRL money, you pay a few bucks to get 2 redeemable PLEXes, not more not less.
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Omara Otawan
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Posted - 2010.07.11 08:45:00 -
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Originally by: Forum Joe
Well, I know nothing about Icelandic laws.
But if Iceland joins the European Union, CCP will have to adapt to EU's laws, or die.
Seems to be pretty hard to grasp, but they fulfilled their obligations by giving you the GTC. What you do with it afterwards is entirely your choice.
More to the point, what other reason except for making a profit through trading (which is an ingame activity that involves ingame items and the risk to lose them) would there be to ever undock a PLEX?
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Sphit Ker
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2010.07.11 12:29:00 -
[51]
Do you know who said (paraphrased mine) ôI want to make something that everyone needs all the time, use once then discard in the trash so they have to buy another one. ?
The founder of Gillette.
ItÆs, at least, vaguely fitting.
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SpyMuch
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Posted - 2010.07.11 13:42:00 -
[52]
ahhh, <3 stupid people
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David Grogan
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.07.11 14:24:00 -
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Edited by: David Grogan on 11/07/2010 14:24:58
jita will become even more laggy when this is introduced and swarms suicide gankers will hit people undocking from jita 4-4 with plex's in thier holds.
Jita will eventually get too laggy to even get close enough to a gate without getting the gate control errors
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Takashi Halamoto
No Limit Productions
Looney Toons.
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Posted - 2010.07.11 15:12:00 -
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or people will stop being dumbass,
too much to hope for i guess
Me? im just sitting here,
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Sneaky Neko
Echoes of Reality
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Posted - 2010.07.11 15:52:00 -
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If you don't want your PLEX to be destroyed, DON'T UNDOCK. There, easy fix.
The 300 mill PLEX is no more valuable than the 300 mill *insert module name here*. If it was then it would be worth more than 300 mil.
You do not buy a PLEX from CCP to extend your game time (if you did you are stupid, just buy the game time directly) you buy a PLEX to sell for ISK.
A PLEX is not some special binding agreement that CCP absolutely has to give someone 30 days of game time no mater what. And even if it was why do you care if CCP eventually gives some random stranger that 30 days? You should already have made your ISK by selling it in the station you redeemed it in after that it doesn't affect you at all. If you didn't than you deserve what you got.
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