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Felix Esperium Lysergic Distortions Research and Development	Posted - 2010.07.11 08:11:00 - [31] confirming Eve is blurry.
Aldarica Spinal Discipline	Posted - 2010.07.11 08:16:00 - [32] Originally by: cyndrogen why doesn't eve have ships you can actually fly? So basicaly you want fluent, twitch based joystick breaking FPS style combat in one huge, non-instanced, non-sharded MMORPG? Well I think it's pretty safe to assume that's not going to happen because of whole bunch of technical restrictions. If it was possible we would already get such game.
Zaqar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2010.07.11 08:17:00 - [33] You're very young, or you're pretending to be, but I'll answer you anyway. Go and play whatever game you want. No need to tell us about it, we're not that interested. If you feel CCP is falsely advertising their product, feel free to contact your local office of fair trading/trade commisison. If you would like CCP to commit to fixing the game over adding new content, then sign this thread.
cyndrogen	Posted - 2010.07.11 08:31:00 - [34] I'm on board! I will totally support your petition. Thanks for the link! Originally by: Zaqar You're very young, or you're pretending to be, but I'll answer you anyway. Go and play whatever game you want. No need to tell us about it, we're not that interested. If you feel CCP is falsely advertising their product, feel free to contact your local office of fair trading/trade commisison. If you would like CCP to commit to fixing the game over adding new content, then sign this thread.
drendell	Posted - 2010.07.11 08:32:00 - [35] Originally by: mechtech "The latest expansion of EVE is about as foreign to a space combat game as anything deployed before." Just FYI, Eve-Online was not originally envisioned as a space combat game, but rather as a sci-fi simulator. Walking in stations, planetary interaction, these were all things that CCP wanted to do before the game was even released. Of course the main focus will always revolve around space combat, but the game will continue to become more and more fleshed out and diversified as time goes on. no better answer then that tbh. and as for graphics there fine, and i reall dont think ccp is finished with any part of this game. and as for jump gate evolution, it wont steal as many of eve's players as you think.
cyndrogen	Posted - 2010.07.11 08:40:00 - [36] I could give a crap about jumpgate evolution, I have invested a lot of time in eve and I'm jealous that jumpgate is jupming ahead in terms of space combat play. It **es me off that a game which looks like crap offers what look like better play mechanics, I wouldn't know for sure I'm speculating but from that video I posted it looked fun. Originally by:** drendell Originally by: mechtech "The latest expansion of EVE is about as foreign to a space combat game as anything deployed before." Just FYI, Eve-Online was not originally envisioned as a space combat game, but rather as a sci-fi simulator. Walking in stations, planetary interaction, these were all things that CCP wanted to do before the game was even released. Of course the main focus will always revolve around space combat, but the game will continue to become more and more fleshed out and diversified as time goes on. no better answer then that tbh. and as for graphics there fine, and i reall dont think ccp is finished with any part of this game. and as for jump gate evolution, it wont steal as many of eve's players as you think.
Dan O'Connor Cerberus Network Dignitas.	Posted - 2010.07.11 09:34:00 - [37] Edited by: Dan O''Connor on 11/07/2010 09:34:45 Originally by: cyndrogen I could give a crap about jumpgate evolution, I have invested a lot of time in eve and I'm jealous that jumpgate is jupming ahead in terms of space combat play. It **es me off that a game which looks like crap offers what look like better play mechanics, I wouldn't know for sure I'm speculating but from that video I posted it looked fun. If you're so upset about Tyrannis and missing combat features (or EVE's "lost focus") why don't you just go to the CSM and whine to them about it? Item DB** \| Sigs
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2010.07.11 10:07:00 - [38] Originally by: "cyndrogen" Where is the focus of eve? Where are the epic battles that were crafted for the trailers? + pointless rant about unwanted features The focus of EVE is and was always to create THE scifi-simulator that utilizes most of the available technology that is there at the time. So you want space battles which are epic and all, that's cool, but there are some limitations. The biggest of them is the path CCP had choosen years ago.. single threaded server code which can be broken down to ONE solar system by now. Anything that involves more than 1500 players on the same CPU isn't available now. CCP would love to break this barrier, but as you can see, this doesn't seem to be an easy and usual task for them. I bet it involves a complete rewrite of the server side code with EVERYTHING that attaches to it. The only hope you might get out of this.. with the backup of income from Incarna/DUST CCP might be able to get enough manpower together to swing that task and at the same time not completely letting EVE idle without any new/reworked stuff that already is there.
Sekretarka	Posted - 2010.07.11 10:48:00 - [39] I wonder where people get the idea the Eve devs are working on Dust. Dust is being developed by a separate team in Shanghai with support form Newcastle team. There is still the same amount or higher amount of devs dedicated to eve then before development of dust started! Eve is a gigantic and growing these days, but development time for each expansion is still the same. Therefore it may seem that expansions to not add a wealth of new things these days, but only in comparison with current eve size. CCP hires new people for eve every week, have some faith people.
Jasdemi	Posted - 2010.07.11 10:53:00 - [40] Edited by: Jasdemi on 11/07/2010 10:53:45 EVE is dying. /thread WARNING: Further posting will result in a "EVE DEATH"! =-=-=-=-= REMOVE LEARNINGS, FFS!

Takseen	Posted - 2010.07.11 11:29:00 - [41] Originally by: Heretica Dukat Originally by: BrundleMeth CCP will do whatever they need to to make more money, that is all. You're totally right! CCP has proven time and time again they have no problem compromising their game for the sake of money! I mean just look at how much they charge for expansions! And all those stupid mounts and pets purchasable with real money! And that stupid premium for using the auction house on your iPhone! Don't even get me started at all the tshirts/steins/minatures/etc they keep spamming at us, with all those ads on their forums! It's pretty obvious they are just milking this cash-cow for all it's worth. Oh, wait. Wrong game, wrong company. Pretty funny, considering Eve Online actively promotes multiboxing(Power of Two etc) and purchasing in-game currency with real world cash. And I wouldn't be surprised if they introduce an iPhone app that lets you update your skill queue and work the market for a little extra cash. There'd certainly be demand for it.
Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards	Posted - 2010.07.11 13:26:00 - [42] I smell a BBQ with cydrogen on the grill. BTW the original jump gate which is old as eve has a player cap of 25 players these days. Pre-order your Sisters of ≡v≡ Exploration ship today, Updated 24FEB10
sensuella	Posted - 2010.07.11 13:32:00 - [43] Originally by: Sekretarka I wonder where people get the idea the Eve devs are working on Dust. Dust is being developed by a separate team in Shanghai with support form Newcastle team. There is still the same amount or higher amount of devs dedicated to eve then before development of dust started! Eve is a gigantic and growing these days, but development time for each expansion is still the same. Therefore it may seem that expansions to not add a wealth of new things these days, but only in comparison with current eve size. CCP hires new people for eve every week, have some faith people. i wonder where CCP got the money to hire that team in shanghigh and in newcastle to even start work on dust? could it be money they got from eve and dont put back into eve to make eve work??its not like dust is bringing in any money yet, if eve was working then id say go for it, but fix eve first b4 useing our money to make new games. no matter how many ppl they have working on eve atm, it aparently isnt enough
Chwho Bacca	Posted - 2010.07.11 14:07:00 - [44] There are planets in the universe. Planets hold ore and materials. These materials help build Starbase's and other combat related things. It makes perfect sense to have PI in Eve, infact I can't wait for CCP to make more things like PI. For instance, mining moons in wormhole space or high sec. Mining belts that orbit an entire solar system, harvesting Suns or solar energy. Its all apart of the chain that allows combat to exist.
Graelyn Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies	Posted - 2010.07.11 14:13:00 - [45] I love how the op keeps changing his message over and over the more he gets trolled in an attempt to save face after one of the dumbest posts I've ever accidentally read. EVE isn't just about what you like. Get a life. -------
Ghoest	Posted - 2010.07.11 14:28:00 - [46] I think this thread misses the point. The focus that has been lost is that instead of only worrying about making the best and most engaging sand box CCP is worry about expanding their player base to a different type of player - a sap who like pretty clothes.. Wherever you went - Here you are.
Gordon Fell	Posted - 2010.07.11 14:57:00 - [47] So, you'd rather like all the epic space combat you can imagine, without meaning? No space, resources to fight over? Take a guess on how fast that'll die into oblivion. EVE's still crashing from all the people that want in, any other game has trouble filling a 10 vs. 10 queue, 2 weeks after beta.
digitalwanderer Gallente DF0 incorporated	Posted - 2010.07.11 15:18:00 - [48] As one of the first players of the game when it was released in 2003,i can agree with the original poster,and even offer some examples: 1:where are more T3 ships(i can fly all races now). 2:where are more capital ship types,as i fly almmost everything in game,and the original release of capital ships was in late 2005...That's almost 5 years ago. 3:where are the T3 modules,since T2 has been out for years now,and originally,there was supposed to be up to tech 5 items and ships...At the pace CCP is going,i'll be dead well before i see them in game. I'm a char with almost 132 million sp,and forced to train stuff that doesn't really interest me at this point,and it's simply being done to keep the char busy,but i don't feel the char improving in a significant matter,nor have i anything to aim for in terms of character improvement,since there's nothing else to train for,with some examples listed above. So CCP want me to walk in stations and screw around with PI?....I don't think so.
BrundleMeth Caldari Temporal Mechanics	Posted - 2010.07.11 17:24:00 - [49] Originally by: cyndrogen CCP is not delivering the product they promised and that my friend is false advertising. You really don't understand much about business do you????
Yuki Kulotsuki	Posted - 2010.07.11 17:37:00 - [50] I think the OP has lost focus. Originally by: CCP Lemur THIS IS GOD: ... IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE REQUESTS I'M AVAILABLE SUNDAY FROM 10:30 TO 12:00 TO RECEIVE YOUR PRAYERS.

omgevenmoarfreemoniez	Posted - 2010.07.11 17:41:00 - [51] Originally by: SammyullJackson Originally by: omgevenmoarfreemoniez Why bother posting negative comments about CCP on this fanboi infested board. CCP can do no wrong in their eyes. lol CLEARLY you don't read any of threads here... because pretty damned near all of them are bashing one mechanic, change, fix, or another. And nearly all of the posts in those threads are bashing the OP for whining, stupidity etc, so...
digitalwanderer Gallente DF0 incorporated	Posted - 2010.07.11 22:56:00 - [52] Edited by: digitalwanderer on 11/07/2010 22:56:58 Originally by: omgevenmoarfreemoniez And nearly all of the posts in those threads are bashing the OP for whining, stupidity etc, so... So what are you stating?....That vets who kept this game going in the early years,when the game was an unstable and umbalanced mess to a much larger degree than today,with the server crashing 3~4 times a day,no longer count?...They've served their purpose basically?. The game is becoming very wide in terms of the number of professions and activities that new players can enjoy with relatively little training,but it hasn't added depth for those players who've been around for several years already and have a long collection of skills already trained,but vets are taken for granted and CCP doesn't have to do anything to keep them satisfied,such as the examples mentioned in my last post,and those aren't the only ones either. Add more stuff dedicated to vets....More T3 ships,T2 capital ships,T3 modules....Vets are getting bored,and hardly logging on the game since there's little left to aim for.
Sinistra Arc Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2010.07.11 23:49:00 - [53] Originally by: My nose'omg ... OMG! Her nose! OMG! My nose!!!
Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards	Posted - 2010.07.12 01:42:00 - [54] I do remember ccp saying thier goal was the ultimate sci fi experince. Im pertty sure that will have to include colonization, and futuristic ground combat and being able to see other people for once. Though they may never make the fighter pilot portion of this game and RTS is already in the game inadvertingly. Pre-order your Sisters of ≡v≡ Exploration ship today, Updated 24FEB10
digitalwanderer Gallente DF0 incorporated	Posted - 2010.07.12 04:40:00 - [55] Edited by: digitalwanderer on 12/07/2010 04:41:02 Originally by: Nova Fox I do remember ccp saying thier goal was the ultimate sci fi experince. Im pertty sure that will have to include colonization, and futuristic ground combat and being able to see other people for once. Though they may never make the fighter pilot portion of this game and RTS is already in the game inadvertingly. I'd love an honest answer from CCP on the matter,such as why have only T3 cruisers been released so far,and even that was done an entire year ago,and nothing else has been mentioned,or what CCP plans to do to keep veterans interested in the game? Does it end simply with fleet PVP(with the ever present lag associated with it) and flying a T1 Titan untill the end of time?...Gets boring after a while.
Ocih Amarr The Program Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2010.07.12 08:12:00 - [56] Simple answer to the title? Yes. Just after Dominion we had a 'grace period' where everyone got to wad hundreds of billions in to seeded infrastucture. Only to lose it to black screen, game breaking lagged out battles. That is what I expect to happen in Dust. We will see all infrastucture wiped out in a combat system we cant engage in or defend against. EvE is still one of the better true MMOs out there but it slowly loses ground with each patch. Opting to give us potential content instead of refining the content we have to where it is premium. More and more EvE becomes an unhealthy vigil rather than a game. Not to be too critical, its a learning experience for the company that runs it as much as us. Not to mention if they blow it, they are out much more than we are.
Alrione Black Lagoon Inc.	Posted - 2010.07.12 08:29:00 - [57] Originally by: cyndrogen Edited by: cyndrogen on 11/07/2010 00:07:23 Eve is about space combat and giant space battles only possible in an mmo,if I want to play around with planetary structures I'll play Sim City and other fully developed games. Eve never was a space battle simulator. Eve is a spacesimulator. If you watch videos throughout all fanfests + devblogs + some CCP's history you will know that the vision is a space MMO where you can do anything. -------------------------------- No sig, is a sig as well.
cyndrogen	Posted - 2010.07.12 08:44:00 - [58] Eve is not a space battle simulator? Are we playing the same game? Everything in eve is about building ships you can blow up. The entire economy is based on a combat system NOT the other way around. How many mining ships are there and industrial haulers vs PVP ships? Take a look at the items as well, how many items are geared toward combat vs any other activity. Combat dominates eve and it's economy yet the development team keeps pushing out weak sauce features. Originally by: Alrione Originally by: cyndrogen Edited by: cyndrogen on 11/07/2010 00:07:23 Eve is about space combat and giant space battles only possible in an mmo,if I want to play around with planetary structures I'll play Sim City and other fully developed games. Eve never was a space battle simulator. Eve is a spacesimulator. If you watch videos throughout all fanfests + devblogs + some CCP's history you will know that the vision is a space MMO where you can do anything.
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2010.07.12 08:45:00 - [59] Originally by: digitalwanderer Originally by: Nova Fox I do remember ccp saying thier goal was the ultimate sci fi experince. I'd love an honest answer from CCP on the matter, such as why have only T3 cruisers been released so far, and even that was done an entire year ago, and nothing else has been mentioned, or what CCP plans to do to keep veterans interested in the game? T3 frigs had been announced for the last expansion but didn't made it in.. check back on mechanical datacore prices which spiked in prospect of that happening. Also.. I'm not really sure that CCP wants veterans who need new toys every expansion and can't play with what's there already. Did CCP say that you should be able to play EVE as long as you live? If it get's boring it might be time to put your acc on ice or completely abandon it. Pour soul.
cyndrogen	Posted - 2010.07.12 08:56:00 - [60] Please teach me o wise master who plays online games. Share your infinite wisdom you have gathered while clicking. Originally by: BrundleMeth Originally by: cyndrogen CCP is not delivering the product they promised and that my friend is false advertising. You really don't understand much about business do you????



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