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DrysonBennington
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Posted - 2010.07.12 15:40:00 -
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Edited by: DrysonBennington on 12/07/2010 15:42:53
Edited by: DrysonBennington on 12/07/2010 15:41:25
Let's think about this idea for a second. If you were a fleet admiral would you want some little cruiser trying to keep your Mothership, Dreadnought or Titan repaired during an engagement? No your wouldn't it isnt pratical either. A new ship built around the Megathron Hull would be the BS logistics that you are calling for.
I used the Kronos for my base design.
T-1 name: Juba
Hull: Kronos
Structure - 8000/8000
Capacity - 500 m3
Drone Capacity - 100 m3
Drone Bandwidth - 100 mb/sec
Mass - 101.8 mkg
Volume - 480 km3 (50,000 m3 packaged)
Inertia Modifier .120
Em Dmg Resist - 0%
Exp Dmg Resist - 0%
Kin Dmg resist - 0%
Therm Dmg Resist - 0%
Armor - 7300/7300
Armor EM Dmg Resist - 50%
Armor Exp Dmg Resist - 12%
Armor Kin Dmg Resist - 51%
Armor Therm Dmg Resist - 42%
Shield - 0/7000
Recharge Time - 2000.00
Shield Em Dmg Resist - 5%
Shield Exp Dmg Resist - 52%
Shield Kin Dmg Resist - 57%
Shield Thermal Dmg Resist - 32%
Capacitor - 0/5700
Recharge Time - 900 sec
Targeting
Max Targeting Range
65km
Max Locked Targets
8
Scan resolution
100 mn
Sig radius
500
Max Velocity
150 m/sec
Ship Warp Speed
4.0 AU/S
Fitting
CPU - 0/600
Powergrid 0/14000
Calibration 0/400
Low Slots - 5
Med Slots - 7
High Slots - 8
Turret Hardpoints - 2
Upgrade Hardpoints - 2
50% bonus to shield transporter module range
50% bonus to remote repair module range
15% bonus to drone range
5% bonus to repair amount of shield and armor drones
T-2 Name: Mousavi
Hull: Kronos
structure - 8500/8500
capacity - 250 m3
Drone capacity 200 m3
Drone bandwidth - 200 mb/sec (achieveable with new Sleeper Drone AI Technology)
Armor - 9500/9500
Shield- 0/8000
Capacitor 0/6000
recharge time 750 sec
Max Targeting Range
75km
Max velocity 200 m/sec
Fitting
CPU - 0/700
Powergrid - 0/15000
Low slots- 6
Med Slots- 6
High Slots-8
25% bonus to shield transporter module range + 15% bonus to shield transporter amount
25% bonus to remote armor repair module range + 15% bonus to armor repair amount
5% bonus to drone range
10% bonus to repair amount of shield and armor drones
Primea Add-ons (can only store certain items in each compartment)
Ammunition Storage Compartment - 1000 m3 of any one type of ammo
Battery Storage Compartment - 500 m3 of battery storage
Nanite Repair Paste Compartment - 100 m3 of Nanite repair paste.
The NRPC operates by using an add-on in the form of a rig called the Nanite Repair Paste Atomizer Rig. The NRPAR atomizes the paste in the compartment at a rate of 5 m3 per cycle with a cycle time of 1:00. When the cycle time has reached it's limit the paste is then transfered to the Nanite Remote Armor Repair Module (NRARM). The NRARM then applies the paste to the armor of a ship and hull where each level of skill learnt to level five will add a 2% bonus to armor repair per level and a 5% hull remote repair amount per level. The NRARM would have a range limit due to the atomization effect of the paste.
Level 1 NRARM - 5km
Level 2 NRARM - 7km
Level 3 NRARM - 9km
Level 4 NRARM - 12km
Level 5 NRARM - 14km
The NRARM could only be used on the T-2 variant.
Both ships would require the same skills to be learnt to pilot the marauder series of ships
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DrysonBennington
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Posted - 2010.07.12 16:52:00 -
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The cruiser sized logistics ships are meant to be used on frigates to battleships. Carriers are not designed to be remote repairing platforms. Carriers are meant to bring the pain to the battlefield. By having a BS sized logistics ship will free up the repping carriers for combat duty which I am certain that each corp that employs carriers in their fleets would rather have two combat capitals in the zone as opposed tow having one comabt ship and a hospital ship. You should up your mind to new ideas instead of being Caldari all of the time...you might live longer.
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DrysonBennington
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Posted - 2010.07.12 17:09:00 -
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Edited by: DrysonBennington on 12/07/2010 17:20:01
Edited by: DrysonBennington on 12/07/2010 17:14:29
Edited by: DrysonBennington on 12/07/2010 17:09:47
b]Also: What does Blacks have to do with logistics? Unless you mean moving crap around which is not really the topic [/b]
Logitsical ships are designed for one purpose and that is too keep a fleet supplied with ammo and other other necessities.
I have listed the different real world Naval Classes of ships that I have used to create the Mousavi.
Ammunition Ship
Combat Stores Ships
Repair Ships
Surveillance Ships
All of which have been cold rolled into one Logistics ship
Fast Combat Support Ships
Juba add-ons:
200 m3 Ammunition Storage Compartment
200 m3 Battery Storage Compartment
15% reduction in capacitor need of probe launchers
5% reduction in probe scanning time
10% reduction in capacitor need of cloaking modules
Mousavi add-ons:
capacity changed from 250 m3 to 600 m3
5% reduction in capacitor need of probe launchers
15% reduction in probe scanning time
15% eduction in capacitor need of cloaking modules
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DrysonBennington
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Posted - 2010.07.12 17:26:00 -
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Nope carriers are combat vessels meant to deliver high volumes of drones, missiles and provide ECM to the ships around it.
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DrysonBennington
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Posted - 2010.07.12 19:52:00 -
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Are you talking real world carriers? Fits better with them than what we see in Eve.
In game a carrier puts out about the same damage as a gank/plate BS (~1k dps) and has 10+ times the EHP (~1.5M EHP) or there about. Doesn't require great math skills to realise that one is better off using a carrier in triage (equivalent to 4-6 logistics cruisers!) to support the gank/plate BS group instead of using it as a drone/fighter platform.
That support ship you have cooked up is easily trumped by a cargo expanded Blockade Runner and/or Carrier, and would thus see no use - even for station games a carrier would be superior so they would only ever be used in high-sec dock monkey scenarios ..
Using the carrier as a logistics ship is a total waste of combat potential. I would rather have two fully combat ready carriers on station supported by three or four of my heavy logistics ships then having one carrier supported by one logistics carrier with the puny cruiser providing additional support. Total waste of resources when either one of the carriers are lost.
I sure hope that you are not the military planner for your corporation as you have problably cost your CEO more isk than you have brought to the table.
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DrysonBennington
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Posted - 2010.07.12 20:00:00 -
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I can safely say that a squadron of carriers supported my heavy logistics ships will easily defeat your fleet of carriers supported by logistics carriers and logistics cruisers.
100% certain for that matter.
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DrysonBennington
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Posted - 2010.07.14 23:10:00 -
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Using the carrier as a repper ship to support another carrier makes about as much sense as sticking your finger into a pencil sharpener.
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