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bbb2020
Carebears with Attitude
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Posted - 2012.07.21 12:55:00 -
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"Trying to solo Eve Online is like trying to solo Facebook"
(EVE Online creative director Torfi Frans Olafsson)
The whole article can be read here:
This is Why I Never Could Get Into EVE Online
Sounds good; but not being on Facebook, I wouldn't know. |
Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2012.07.21 13:16:00 -
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Shenanigans... every noob ninja-looting lvl 4s knows you can do well while solo.
"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro" ~ The Story of the Ninja |
Harold Tuphlos
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.21 13:42:00 -
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Why did you waste 30 seconds of my life? That article has no content except that quote.  |
Raya Chandragupta
Observant Eye Inc
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Posted - 2012.07.21 13:49:00 -
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You can do pretty much anything solo, apart from fleet PvP/Sov warfare (obviously) and higher class wormholes. Tedious stuff like mining, PvE or maintaining POS will be a bit less tedious if you do it with some others, though. |
bbb2020
Carebears with Attitude
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Posted - 2012.07.21 14:47:00 -
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Harold Tuphlos wrote:Why did you waste 30 seconds of my life? That article has no content except that quote.
Actually think it say one fundamentally thing about Eve, and about something everybody on the forum is talking about - Why it is that so many new players quit after a short try at playing this game.
They are coming in, expecting to play a game but don't realizing that they have to play the game.
There have been much talk about how to change the game to make it easier for new players - new tutorials etc. but thats just making change for a game but not much talk about how to make change for the new players to get into the game.
Think CCP needs to focus more on that aspect too, as it (the switch) doesn't come automatically.
BTW: You're sitting on the forum 24/7 - you have no life to waste, so stop crying.
Now excuse me, as I'm going to watch 6 hours of Eve TV. |
Jimmy Gunsmythe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.21 14:56:00 -
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Harold Tuphlos wrote:Why did you waste 30 seconds of my life? That article has no content.
Fixed it for you.
Sadly, such a poor example to use, and yet, so very fitting. Facebook, the epitome of faceless thinking and emulating an automaton-like mentality is the example for some who can only parrot what they hear and not come up with their own thought process within Eve. I think some resist the anti-solo mentality becase it exists. Free-thinkers, as it were, those who do not need the herd to do what they consider fun or profitable.
A good predator knows how to live in balance with his prey, lest he follow them into oblivion. |
Tiberius Amzadee
The Omega Sovereign Flux Initiative
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Posted - 2012.07.22 01:27:00 -
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The best description of playing Eve Online.
The Space Crucible!
A never ending sever test of new eden's immortals characterized by the confluence of powerful intellectual,social,economic,and political forces. |
Johan Civire
Dirty Curse inc.
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Posted - 2012.07.22 01:29:00 -
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Tiberius Amzadee wrote:The best description of playing Eve Online.
The Space Crucible!
A never ending sever test of new eden's immortals characterized by the confluence of powerful intellectual,social,economic,and political forces.
amen |
Abon
Pandorum Research Incorporated
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Posted - 2012.07.22 01:29:00 -
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EvE Online: Divided by Zero. |
Nyreanya
Serenity Labs
New Eden Research.
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Posted - 2012.07.22 04:28:00 -
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EvE Online: No, I don't want to be your friend, but I'll double your ISK because I'm a nice person.
Not everyone thinks the same way you do. This doesn't automatically make them wrong. |
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2012.07.22 04:41:00 -
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EvE Online: Why yes; you CAN do that!
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Ensign
Community Communication Liasions (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department |
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Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises
Purpose Built
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Posted - 2012.07.22 04:46:00 -
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:EvE Online: Why yes; you CAN do that!
But but but... I want to boomerang. |
Chokichi Ozuwara
Royal One Piece Corporation
Deadly Unknown
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Posted - 2012.07.22 05:00:00 -
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Somebody should introduce Torfi Frans Olafsson to Chribba.
Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2012.07.22 07:12:00 -
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Did he just say that there is one thing you couldn't do in the sandbox?
While I get his view, I definitely do not agree with that statement, it might not be optimal choice but soloing surely is a very valid type of play style, all depends on your end goal.
/c
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
409
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Posted - 2012.07.22 10:26:00 -
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Hurry Up and Wait: The Game.
EVE's 4th of July Fireworks |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.22 10:28:00 -
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Chribba wrote:Did he just say that there is one thing you couldn't do in the sandbox?
While I get his view, I definitely do not agree with that statement, it might not be optimal choice but soloing surely is a very valid type of play style, all depends on your end goal.
But of course, despite that, the interaction is a big part of it of course, and for that sake not going full solo is very much encouraged, because the community is awesome.
/c
if you play a multiplayer game solo, are you really playing it
a rogue goon |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
409
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Posted - 2012.07.22 10:30:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Chribba wrote:Did he just say that there is one thing you couldn't do in the sandbox?
While I get his view, I definitely do not agree with that statement, it might not be optimal choice but soloing surely is a very valid type of play style, all depends on your end goal.
But of course, despite that, the interaction is a big part of it of course, and for that sake not going full solo is very much encouraged, because the community is awesome.
/c if you play a multiplayer game solo, are you really playing it
I think we should clarify what we mean by solo play. Do we mean that solo players don't cooperate with other players, or that they don't interact with them at all?
One of them is perfectly fine in this game, the other is not.
EVE's 4th of July Fireworks |
Shanija
Confetti Explosion
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Posted - 2012.07.22 11:16:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Chribba wrote:Did he just say that there is one thing you couldn't do in the sandbox?
While I get his view, I definitely do not agree with that statement, it might not be optimal choice but soloing surely is a very valid type of play style, all depends on your end goal.
But of course, despite that, the interaction is a big part of it of course, and for that sake not going full solo is very much encouraged, because the community is awesome.
/c if you play a multiplayer game solo, are you really playing it
You can't play this game on your own. You're always logging onto the same server as other people. You don't have to choose to team up with people, though.
I don't play that way, but big part of the fun of EVE for me is seeing the crazy things that other people get up to. Some people can just enjoy playing with the market or what have you. It's not playing the game wrong, it's just playing it differently. |
Pix Severus
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
82
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Posted - 2012.07.22 11:50:00 -
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Even "solo" players interact with other players, there is no escaping it. Every time you sell your mission loot or ore, you are selling to players, every time you buy a new ship, or gun, or mining laser, you are buying from players.
Unless you do nothing in-game except for flying around in an Ibis, then you aren't playing solo. |
Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2012.07.22 12:01:00 -
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EVE = Central Africa Online... In Space.
Hi-Sec is the poorly guarded UN Refugee Camp.
Low sec are the guys in trucks with machete's.
Null Sec is the warring paramilitary groups that call themselves freedom fighters.
Wormholes is the towns so small there are no roads, maps or law. |
VegasMirage
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.22 12:02:00 -
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Chribba wrote:Did he just say that there is one thing you couldn't do in the sandbox?
While I get his view, I definitely do not agree with that statement, it might not be optimal choice but soloing surely is a very valid type of play style, all depends on your end goal.
But of course, despite that, the interaction is a big part of it of course, and for that sake not going full solo is very much encouraged, because the community is awesome.
/c
most full solo players are in private convo channels filled with only solo pvpers and their broadcasting live - most of them know eachother |
Eternus8lux8lucis
New Eden Regimental Marines
Rebel Alliance of New Eden
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Posted - 2012.07.22 12:16:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:Chribba wrote:Did he just say that there is one thing you couldn't do in the sandbox?
While I get his view, I definitely do not agree with that statement, it might not be optimal choice but soloing surely is a very valid type of play style, all depends on your end goal.
But of course, despite that, the interaction is a big part of it of course, and for that sake not going full solo is very much encouraged, because the community is awesome.
/c if you play a multiplayer game solo, are you really playing it I think we should clarify what we mean by solo play. Do we mean that solo players don't cooperate with other players, or that they don't interact with them at all? One of them is perfectly fine in this game, the other is not.
Technically you cant actually never interact with others. Unless from the start you can obtain, build and maintain everything yourself, which technically you cant do. You could potentially build yourself up to this point but until then you are entirely dependent on buyers or sellers of various goods. Just because you dont have a forum footprint or talk to people doesnt mean you arent interacting and therefore "playing" with others.
So in no way can you actually play solo. The minute you log in your interacting. As you pop up in someone elses local window, are an actual ship or entity within that solar system. And though some can be very sparsely populated indeed your never truly by yourself.
Strength isnt measured in numbers but in force of will. For if one motived willful individual stands many will fall around him that are weak.
http://tinyurl.com/YarrFace |
Ten Bulls
Sons of Olsagard
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Posted - 2012.07.22 12:41:00 -
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So CCP create a massive sandbox, and then tell customers they arent allowed to sit in the corner by themself.
If CCP every get around to understanding solo and casual gameplay this game could be good. |
Gaellia Bonaventure
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.07.22 17:52:00 -
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I bet you can't guess what I'm doing solo right now....
Bring your possibles. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.07.22 18:08:00 -
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Ten Bulls wrote:So CCP create a massive sandbox, and then tell customers they arent allowed to sit in the corner by themself. No. They build a massive sandbox and then tell customers that sitting in a corner by themselves is rather meaningless (not to mention near-impossible).
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
410
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Posted - 2012.07.22 18:28:00 -
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Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:Chribba wrote:Did he just say that there is one thing you couldn't do in the sandbox?
While I get his view, I definitely do not agree with that statement, it might not be optimal choice but soloing surely is a very valid type of play style, all depends on your end goal.
But of course, despite that, the interaction is a big part of it of course, and for that sake not going full solo is very much encouraged, because the community is awesome.
/c if you play a multiplayer game solo, are you really playing it I think we should clarify what we mean by solo play. Do we mean that solo players don't cooperate with other players, or that they don't interact with them at all? One of them is perfectly fine in this game, the other is not. Technically you cant actually never interact with others. Unless from the start you can obtain, build and maintain everything yourself, which technically you cant do. You could potentially build yourself up to this point but until then you are entirely dependent on buyers or sellers of various goods. Just because you dont have a forum footprint or talk to people doesnt mean you arent interacting and therefore "playing" with others. So in no way can you actually play solo. The minute you log in your interacting. As you pop up in someone elses local window, are an actual ship or entity within that solar system. And though some can be very sparsely populated indeed your never truly by yourself.
What I mean by not interacting is a player who stays in their NPC corp or a corp of their own, and focus purely on PVE content without ever talking to or shooting at anyone else. That's what I was trying to clarify.
You can do that, but it's not how the game is intended to be played.
On the other hand, solo piracy for example, is still solo gameplay but it's a lot more in line with CCP's intent, as there is competitive interaction (even though there is no cooperative interaction).
EVE's 4th of July Fireworks |
Shameless Avenger
307
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Posted - 2012.07.22 18:46:00 -
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Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:
Technically you cant actually never interact with others. Unless from the start you can obtain, build and maintain everything yourself, which technically you cant do. You could potentially build yourself up to this point but until then you are entirely dependent on buyers or sellers of various goods. Just because you dont have a forum footprint or talk to people doesnt mean you arent interacting and therefore "playing" with others.
So in no way can you actually play solo. The minute you log in your interacting. As you pop up in someone elses local window, are an actual ship or entity within that solar system. And though some can be very sparsely populated indeed your never truly by yourself.
I see what you are trying to say. You need people to sell stuff to you and you need people to buy stuff from you. Without that interaction, it takes longer to progress in game...granted. But longer does not mean impossible. You can very well survive with bounties/LP and fit meta 4 from your own loot until you can invent yourself some tech2.
About having other people in the system... being alone and playing alone are different things. However, examples of this would go deeply into the land of "what if, what if, what if...".
I believe you can be a solo noob and do well. It is the big stuff what you can't do solo. Even if nobody attacks you, there's a limit as per how many towers you can fuel by yourself. Don't expect to hold sovereignty over 3 regions all by yourself. But being a noob solo? Sure you can.
"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro" ~ The Story of the Ninja |
Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2012.07.22 18:52:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:
What I mean by not interacting is a player who stays in their NPC corp or a corp of their own, and focus purely on PVE content without ever talking to or shooting at anyone else. That's what I was trying to clarify.
You can do that, but it's not how the game is intended to be played.
On the other hand, solo piracy for example, is still solo gameplay but it's a lot more in line with CCP's intent, as there is competitive interaction (even though there is no cooperative interaction).
The game was built on risk vs reward. Playing with others is a greater risk, and has grater rewards. Just like low sec missions have greater rewards, with the added risk of having no concord, being in a corp with friends is more profitable, as long as your friends don't back-stab you.
"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro" ~ The Story of the Ninja |
Shameless Avenger
307
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Posted - 2012.07.22 18:54:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Ten Bulls wrote:So CCP create a massive sandbox, and then tell customers they arent allowed to sit in the corner by themself. No. They build a massive sandbox and then tell customers that sitting in a corner by themselves is rather meaningless (not to mention near-impossible).
Ship spinning is not meaningless... stop hurting my feelings 
"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro" ~ The Story of the Ninja |
ashley Eoner
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Posted - 2012.07.22 19:29:00 -
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I enjoyed eve until I went to the official forums and found out that the game is dying and I'm the reason why... |
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