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Captain Gaspasser	Posted - 2010.07.15 11:53:00 - [31] Originally by: alena fairchild dont join rvb both of these corps are full of rude people specially red, some red team commander will cuss at u for missing a point or failing at targetting primary, oh yeah his name is lonewolf100 that guy is something else, likes to overship after losing lol just ask blue, some reds dont even want to fly with that guy. simply annoying. if u want pvp just join faction warfare, it is alot more fun This is spot on. BTW Reds are overwhelmingly powerful at the moment since Orion left. few players switched side to even up the fight but most are just too scared to leave the winning side. sad indeed but why would anyone join the losing side right?
Skex Relbore Gallente Red Federation	Posted - 2010.07.15 12:28:00 - [32] Originally by: Captain Gaspasser Originally by: alena fairchild dont join rvb both of these corps are full of rude people specially red, some red team commander will cuss at u for missing a point or failing at targetting primary, oh yeah his name is lonewolf100 that guy is something else, likes to overship after losing lol just ask blue, some reds dont even want to fly with that guy. simply annoying. if u want pvp just join faction warfare, it is alot more fun This is spot on. BTW Reds are overwhelmingly powerful at the moment since Orion left. few players switched side to even up the fight but most are just too scared to leave the winning side. sad indeed but why would anyone join the losing side right? Orion is definitely missed he was really good at firing Blues up and getting them out to fight. Unfortunately this is a game and he had stuff in RL to deal with that mattered more. RVB is a different beast depending on what time you play and what FC's are online. During EU playtime Lonewolf is the main FC and he likes big ships and dislikes arranged fights. But he was needed and is very good and getting reds out where we'd had a problem in that TZ prior to promoting him to command. US tz is a different animal we tend to have a lot more co-operative dynamic between the teams. I've been spending a lot of time recently in blue fleets to beef their numbers. They are starting to come back though. We're sending any active pilots in the US TZ over there and it's starting to pay off. The funny thing is that Lonewolf's fleets tend to be the exact opposite of what some of our detractors claim about us. He doesn't do arranged fights he prefers BC/Cruiser fleets and uses lots of scouting and meta-gaming. RVB is a player run event and it's activities tend to be whatever the membership will undock for and someone will take the initiative to do. As far as cussing in fleet, Grow a pair. I like Lonewolf he's fun to fly with and while he might be a bit abrasive he's very good at what he does. I'd don't agree with everything he does but he's injected a much needed spine into the Euro reds who had been a bit demoralized due to Tinkerhell's nano$*%ing anything smaller than a cruiser that undocked for months on end.
Lady Ayeipsia	Posted - 2010.07.15 12:33:00 - [33] Funny... last time I was flying with Lonewolf... we had 8 Blues camping our HQ including cruises and a Hurricane. We had a 3 man fleet for defense, that was it. I offer to go get a Battleship and he declined saying he did not want us to over ship saying at best we could bring Battlecruisers because they did, but nothing more. I've also found him to be an excellent FC, and about the only time I heard him swear or complain, well, he was bad mouthing the Spanish for winning the world cup, but well, he was rooting for Holland so to be expected. So sorry, but I would fly under his command any day.
siC0 b0b	Posted - 2010.07.15 13:25:00 - [34] Originally by: Drake Konstantin Edited by: Drake Konstantin on 15/07/2010 01:03:42 Originally by: Jones Bones Who? not even close to clever Originally by: Skex Relbore Originally by: siC0 b0b Originally by: Skex Relbore BTW thanks for bumping all these posts you make my job easy. m8 yeh, all bump cuz i like 2 c ur text walls of fail on top m8 Oh you're not even fun anymore I prefer to fight an armed opponent and you can't even use actual words. Hint this is a forum not twitter you need to use complete sentences made up of actual words to be effective. man, I SAID 0/10 hes kinda ****ty at this m8 u cant post so stop go 0/10 ur mum for what its worth
Mashie Saldana BFG Tech	Posted - 2010.07.15 13:28:00 - [35] Lonewolf is great to fly with, sure he will smack people in the fleet that doesn't do as told but what competent FC doesn't? I'm not sure about the comment that he likes big ships, the times I have been with him it has been mainly frigs in the fleet plus an obvious Drake for bait (that Blue did go om nom nom on).
Doccia Ellicis Caldari Red Federation	Posted - 2010.07.15 14:17:00 - [36] Lonewolf is a great FC.
Ren Mazuo	Posted - 2010.07.15 14:47:00 - [37] confirming rvb is full of drama
brb cynoing	Posted - 2010.07.15 15:05:00 - [38] If you are after pvp action with childish behavior and people taking ship lost really personal then rvb is for you. RvB used to be so much fun, dont really know what happend.
Skex Relbore Gallente Red Federation	Posted - 2010.07.15 16:40:00 - [39] Originally by: Ren Mazuo confirming rvb is full of drama What situation where you put a bunch of random people together isn't? Some people get butthurt over ship losses others don't. I got a little bit when Tinkerhell podded me and cost me my slaves then after I was offline for a few minutes I realized that I'm the one that screwed up by not repairing the ship I was in the night before bought some new low grades and went back at it. Different people have different expectations and ideas of what RVB is or should be. Some think it should be some sort of gentlemans dueling society (I don't) others want it to be as close to regular EVE PVP as possible. Even the no podding thing wasn't a part of the original rules. But was formalized from "being frowned upon" since the membership decided it was silly to have such a lose guideline and not have consequences. Sometimes I think changing it was a mistake since it causes people to develop bad habbits like sitting around in your pod watching the battle at 0. Which is going to hurt people when they leave RVB. Not to mention that the only consequence of podding someone is really just getting kicked out of RVB so it's not like your implants are perfectly safe. Then again a lot of podding would lead to more drama and its hard enough dealing with the dueling society people already. Nothing is perfect and no one is claiming that RVB breaks that mold. It is however a whole lot of fun.
Doccia Ellicis Caldari Red Federation	Posted - 2010.07.15 16:48:00 - [40] Originally by: brb cynoing If you are after pvp action with childish behavior and people taking ship lost really personal then rvb is for you. RvB used to be so much fun, dont really know what happend. I can confirm the first part. However I thought most people like to extract tears anyway? Point and laugh if they take their losses personally. Let's be honest here, if they cannot even survive in the mild environment that is RvB, they are pretty much ****ed in environments that do not contain newbie-friendly rules. Oh, and it is still fun. Tears only increase the fun factor, not decrease it.
ZeeOhSix Blackwater Manufacturing and Logistics	Posted - 2010.07.15 17:50:00 - [41] Originally by: Florio ....or....it may just be because RvB fills a very popular niche very well and as such has influenced many people, many of whom are only too willing to express their gratitude and share the RvB mini-game with others on the forums. ^^^This. Low cost of entry, immediate combat with low impact for losing a fight, etc. I understand hardcore PvPs dismissing this as "carebear PvP"...but for me it's been a hoot even with the little I've been able to particpate. Create an alt, pick up some frigs and go to it! The business of EVE is business!
Drake Konstantin	Posted - 2010.07.15 18:26:00 - [42] Originally by: siC0 b0b m8 u cant post so stop go 0/10 ur mum for what its worth tired gimmick
Yakov Draken Minmatar Tides Of War	Posted - 2010.07.15 22:45:00 - [43] Originally by: Shade Millith Originally by: Skex Relbore Crapola I'm sorry, but this entire post is a recruitment post. I love RvB, and have enjoyed having an alt in there for some time, and think it's a great thing, but this **** on the forums gets annoying. Everything beyond "There's a lotta pilots and we don't really control them" is unnessicary. Hello Mr Internet Policemen - would you mind showing me your badge? What no badge? Then GTFO of here! I've never tried Red vs Blue but I really should one day.
jita clown	Posted - 2010.07.16 03:53:00 - [44] if youre going to join RvB then join reds so you can gank blues, honestly blue is a mess these guys dont have any teamwork whatsoever thats why people are leaving. do u notice that only reds are posting here?
Lex Fasces Amarr Blue Republic	Posted - 2010.07.16 11:39:00 - [45] Originally by: jita clown if youre going to join RvB then join reds so you can gank blues, honestly blue is a mess these guys dont have any teamwork whatsoever thats why people are leaving. do u notice that only reds are posting here? orly?
siC0 b0b	Posted - 2010.07.16 13:28:00 - [46] Originally by: Drake Konstantin 0/10 Originally by: Drake Konstantin tired gimmick m8 stop hittin urself m8
Aerion Va'rr	Posted - 2010.07.19 19:58:00 - [47] Posting in a RvB Thread. Confirming Lonewolf100 is awesome. Confirming I've pushed Ilona Nightwing's **** back. Confirming that a RvB Post in a PvP Forum isn't completely out of place.
Serend Gallente Blue Republic	Posted - 2010.07.19 20:45:00 - [48] Drama in RvB can't hold a candle to what happens in this forum when somebody says something nice about RvB. Lots o' peeps are having fun there: why that upsets the trolls is a mystery to me. Serend Blue Republic PS: anybody figure out what the 12 yr old is trying to say?
Skex Relbore Gallente Red Federation	Posted - 2010.07.19 20:59:00 - [49] Originally by: Serend Drama in RvB can't hold a candle to what happens in this forum when somebody says something nice about RvB. Lots o' peeps are having fun there: why that upsets the trolls is a mystery to me. Serend Blue Republic PS: anybody figure out what the 12 yr old is trying to say? See it's only reds posting here... err nevermind.
lonewolf100 Amarr Red Federation	Posted - 2010.07.19 23:11:00 - [50] O HAI stop talking about me, i can read this stuff. ALso many untrue stuff.. I like arrangd fights, when there nothing to do i love em. When we can get regular action its not needed to arrange much, i just make sure that reds dont go in overshipped. I hope blues do the same. I do love big ships, if the fight can be made bigger ill ask for it. And il take any big fleet fight. I rejoice over every single slave I find. For the Emperor.
Helios Diaz	Posted - 2010.07.20 02:19:00 - [51] Confirming Lonewolf is great FC. Lonewolf is the Chuck Norris of EVE. Lonewolf baits battleships in a Purifier. Lonewolf will tackle your Machariel in a Rifter. Lonewolf will kill anything that moves. Lonewolf will bump anything that is not aggressing, then... well, up one. Lonewolf will name fleet after Twiggy's mom, since it kills better then. h
3xta5y	Posted - 2010.07.20 12:04:00 - [52] Look out here comes the RvB propaganda machine. Look at their killboards. See the imbalance in numbers. Look at their forums. See the complaints and whining. Visit the R-V-B channel. Read the whining. Visit the systems they operate in. Read the local smack and whining. I was told Blue needed the numbers and then saw Blue members promptly leaving and joining Red. This is NOT instant PvP action. This is NOT about good fights. It is poorly run club for whiners and people who don't like any sort of challenge.
Aerion Va'rr Red Federation	Posted - 2010.07.20 12:51:00 - [53] Originally by: 3xta5y Look out here comes the RvB propaganda machine. Look at their killboards. See the imbalance in numbers. Look at their forums. See the complaints and whining. Visit the R-V-B channel. Read the whining. Visit the systems they operate in. Read the local smack and whining. I was told Blue needed the numbers and then saw Blue members promptly leaving and joining Red. This is NOT instant PvP action. This is NOT about good fights. It is poorly run club for whiners and people who don't like any sort of challenge. Oh get over yourself, RvB is great. The blues arn't a big unorganized mess, the do what they can with what they have more often than not. There is a bit of verbal banter in local, but it happens everywhere. If you want to PvP without the LowSec Gankfest, or the 0.0 Drama, RvB is awesome. I will say that if you don't have a passive source of income or if your afraid to lose ships, its probably not for you. I fly with Lonewolf and the US TZ Nightcrew, and we have a blast, if were not killing blues, then were killing each other. We have fun. Confirming I'm the worst FC ever. Confirming I'm an *******. Do I care? Not if I'm still having fun. "Its only Red posting here blah blah blah" yeah- most of us will fly with the Blues just to get a fight and even things out. The actual corp numbers arn't accurate as alot of the members are alts or inactive. Very rarely do I see more than 30 online during the week, and thats typically during the EU/US Timezone overlap, and even then most of the people online are restocking the stations in Alentene/Tourier on alts, doing PI, running missions or doing whatever they do for ISK. Sure theres drama, sure theres whining, but where isn't there?
Murbella Venturi	Posted - 2010.07.20 17:07:00 - [54] Originally by: Serend Drama in RvB can't hold a candle to what happens in this forum when somebody says something nice about RvB. Lots o' peeps are having fun there: why that upsets the trolls is a mystery to me. Serend Blue Republic PS: anybody figure out what the 12 yr old is trying to say? Serend actually has the most calming voice in EVE online.
TwiggyHazz	Posted - 2010.07.21 08:15:00 - [55] Edited by: TwiggyHazz on 21/07/2010 08:16:41 Originally by: Helios Diaz Confirming Lonewolf is great FC. Lonewolf is the Chuck Norris of EVE. Lonewolf baits battleships in a Purifier. Lonewolf will tackle your Machariel in a Rifter. Lonewolf will kill anything that moves. Lonewolf will bump anything that is not aggressing, then... well, up one. Lonewolf will name fleet after Twiggy's mom, since it kills better then. h OH HAI GUISE I HEARD I HAD A MENTION? Oh, and never warp to Helios at zero... NEVER NINJA EDIT: http://redfed.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=6774293 Check out the rifter tackle at the bottom xD
Stockholm Anderson	Posted - 2010.07.21 16:20:00 - [56] Originally by: Murbella Venturi Serend actually has the most calming voice in EVE online. ^ This. I see no problem with an RVB-related post in a PvP Channel. I don't know how people got on to talking about Lonewolf, but its not true. Lone is a great fc (as i experienced a few days ago when he even fc'd a blue fleet). Overshipping, both sides accuse each other. Everbody poops. There's been some people saying that, with the leave of Orion Shadowmaker and a few other experienced blues, blue has declined and is not what is was. This is untrue. Ive seen the leading side change several times, and RvB has even progressed(in my opinion), In the past months theres been alot more random and unorganised fights, personally i believe this is better (much more scouting and metagaming, much less "We'll be at planet 3") Stock
Rashmika Clavain Gallente	Posted - 2010.07.21 20:37:00 - [57] Me neither... so could we please stop posting pseudo pvp threads which are thinly guised recruitment drives? Recruitment forum section is that way ->
Skex Relbore Gallente Red Federation	Posted - 2010.07.21 21:52:00 - [58] Originally by: Rashmika Clavain Me neither... so could we please stop posting pseudo pvp threads which are thinly guised recruitment drives? Recruitment forum section is that way -> Perhaps if people like yourself would stop pasting unfounded accusations we'd stop getting the opportunities to turn these threads into recruitment oportunities. As far as Lonewolf's FC capabilities I've never seen anyone claim he wasn't a first rate FC. I've noted that he prefers bigger ships on the few occasions I've managed to fly with him /shrug not a crime I like heavy ship battles too. I apparently had the mistaken impression that he didn't like arranged fights since I'd never seen him on one. Then again my playtime seldom overlaps so that observation is based on limited experience. My appologies Lonewolf. I merely mentioned it to demonstrate that many of the critics of RVB are spouting nonsense they know nothing about. Sure our engagements are somewhat contrived but not any more contrived any other form of combat. Does anyone else see the irony of someone pretending to be a startship pilot in a video game then trying to claim that one type of combat is more "real" than another lol. The ships we blow up are as real as any other in the game it's not like we're on SISI with all the ships and modules costing a flat 100 isk. As to comments about the state of RVB. Yes the team on top has switched in the past. And currently most of the problems are being suffered by late US which is where Orion's absense(and others) is being most keenly felt. That said the entire project is a ongoing work in progress and we're constantly adjusting and trying new things to keep it interesting. In a lot of ways RVB stays interesting because of the diversity of the various players. I for instance prefer larger arranged fights in smaller ships. I love a good 40 man frig brawl. They are fast paced with lots of pretty explosions and since they're cheap people tend to be more willing to play fair and do crazy stuff. Others like the big BC BS fleet fights. then we have a segment that prefers roaming about solo and picking fights with other soloers and small gangs. There is definitely a contingent of the pistols at noon gentlemen duelers. There is a constant struggle of interests which keeps things interesting. For instance even though I'm a big supporter of arranged small ship frig fights some of the best fun I've had in RVB have been in completely random skirmishes that have escalated from frigs/cruiser up to Battlecruiser/battleship. Hell the Blue's even went down a wormhole last night and ended up somewhere in Delve. Once again if you want to stop me form being able to ninja info about RVB into these threads stop spreading bs about us and accusing us of doing something we're not. People ask about RVB we answer their questions, people spread inaccurate information about us we correct it. Simple as that.
marcocom	Posted - 2010.07.22 01:22:00 - [59] i guess i have a question. how the FRAK do i join up?? im also unable to join FW. i have 2m SP and lots of ISK but just cant find the "mad fun" and where to duel a bit. the recruitment thread is two years old and says simply "goto Hatakani" which doesnt quite explain.
Aralyn Cormallen Caldari Red Federation	Posted - 2010.07.22 08:30:00 - [60] Originally by: marcocom i guess i have a question. how the FRAK do i join up?? im also unable to join FW. i have 2m SP and lots of ISK but just cant find the "mad fun" and where to duel a bit. the recruitment thread is two years old and says simply "goto Hatakani" which doesnt quite explain. The two base systems are Tourier (Red) and Alentene (Blue). I suggest moving all your gear there before applying, apps tend to get accepted quite quick, and it can be nerve-wracking hauling all your stuff in when theres a battle underway at the gate or undock your heading for. If you want info, our public channel is R-V-B. Non Moritur Cuius Fama Vivat He Dies Not Whose Fame Survives

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