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Ilona Nightwing
Minmatar Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.07.13 14:11:00 -
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So, wanted to try some PvP and made an alt for it.
First tried bumming around low sec (Molden Heath to be precise) in a Rifter looking to pirate pretty much anything I came across. Someone in a cruiser got podded by me which was the high point as I set upon him while the rats were about (hey, alls fair in love and low sec right), but most of the time it was just 'wow, this place is very, very quiet'. Seems that unless you have an interdictor to hand that bagging traffic is not easy, certainly there were no idiots in exhumers roaming the belts of low sec on their own anyway. Even the gate camp I saw wasn't very scary.
Then tried faction war, but the corps are all kinda paranoid and all the usual Serious Business hoops to jump through. Or grinding out the faction standing to join the NPC FW corp. Way too lazy, sorry, grinding is for WoW.
What to do? Red and Blue!
Joining was no hassle, and most excellent PvP happened almost instantly. OK, I got my ass kicked, a lot, but thats not too surprising being a pvp-nub. So happens my alt has plenty of isk so money no object as far as frigates are concerned, though in truth being blasted repeatedly was remarkably inexpensive given the wonders of insurance and the fact that fellow blues were kind enough to scoop my wrecks and give me my gear back every time I got wasted. I was made to feel very welcome and even needed, even if I accomplished almost nothing.
So very much a thumbsup for Red vs Blue, my first impression is 10/10. If anybody else is looking to get into PvP I highly recommend them.
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Kato Unato
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Posted - 2010.07.13 17:04:00 -
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oi, alt of some other rvb recruitment consultant.........alliance and Corporation Recruitment Centre is this way ---------------->
the ability of you rvb ppl to continue to post in nearly every forum on this website pushing rvb recruitment never ceases to amaze me, infact the pure persistance you put in to it almost deserves some respect........if it wasn't so god damn annoying.
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Florio
Miniature Giant Space Hamsters
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Posted - 2010.07.13 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: Kato Unato the ability of you rvb ppl to continue to post in nearly every forum on this website pushing rvb recruitment never ceases to amaze me
....or....it may just be because RvB fills a very popular niche very well and as such has influenced many people, many of whom are only too willing to express their gratitude and share the RvB mini-game with others on the forums.
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Ilona Nightwing
Minmatar Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.07.13 17:39:00 -
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Edited by: Ilona Nightwing on 13/07/2010 17:40:59
Originally by: Kato Unato oi, alt of some other rvb recruitment consultant.........alliance and Corporation Recruitment Centre is this way ---------------->
the ability of you rvb ppl to continue to post in nearly every forum on this website pushing rvb recruitment never ceases to amaze me, infact the pure persistance you put in to it almost deserves some respect........if it wasn't so god damn annoying.
Hah. I guess the famous Eve paranoia is about.
No, I do have an alt (Silv Talaran) who just sits in stations and trades all the time. I got bored of ISKmaking and wanted to do something else, the story is above pretty much. Actually I went to RvB last, after exhausting all other options. There's probably a few people about who might recognise me from spamming the Recruitment channel asking for Minmatar FW corps...
I've had zip to do with RvB aside from one night of the best fun I've had on Eve since I started playing it.
Not everybody who plays Eve is a congenital scammer you know. 
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Skex Relbore
Gallente Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.13 17:48:00 -
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Originally by: Kato Unato oi, alt of some other rvb recruitment consultant.........alliance and Corporation Recruitment Centre is this way ---------------->
the ability of you rvb ppl to continue to post in nearly every forum on this website pushing rvb recruitment never ceases to amaze me, infact the pure persistance you put in to it almost deserves some respect........if it wasn't so god damn annoying.
We have a recruitment thread in the appropriate forum but we can't control whether people who like what we do post elsewhere nor can we stop people from asking about it and we most certainly aren't going to sit on our hands when people talk **** about us.
I think RVB gets more interest outside the recruitment forums because it is unique in EVE. It isn't a typical corporation or alliance and what we do is different from other organizations. You'll also note that you see quite a bit of traffic outside of the recruiting forums for Eve U and the Agony PVP courses. The reason is that in all 3 cases you are dealing with an institution that is different from a typical corporation. In the case of EVE U you have an organization that's sole purpose is teaching new players about the game. Agony provides neutral PVP training.
RVB provides a venue for low drama quick action PVP where you can get into fights between roughly even opponents rather than the more typical ganky engagements that are more typical of EVE PVP. And you can do so conveniently near multiple market hubs with all the additional advantages of Hi sec.
We aren't creating these threads ourselves, not because we're not sneaky enough to do so, but because we don't have too. There is an abundance of people looking for exactly what we have to offer and they post this sort of thing with out any prompting from us.
As far as actual recruitment efforts we encourage people to post this sort of thing in the official recruitment thread, I've done so myself with my semi regular battle reports which is kind of how I got the job of recruiter in the first place. Note I was posting about how much I liked RVB before I was asked to pick up Orion's slack.
But thousands of pilots pass through RVB and we aren't going to try to police them all so you'll get posts like this.
I assume that the lack of moderator action on these posts means that the moderators understand the value of what we do for the overall health of the game.
RVB is not nor was it ever intended to be the final home for an EVE player rather as most corporations are (whether they succeed in being such or not) It is simply a way stop that people are welcome to pass through during their EVE careers. A year from now I'll probably be somewhere in low or null sec once I've accomplished all I want in RVB and get bored with it like many before me.
This is after all the Warfare and Tactics forum and that's what we do. We aren't interested in holding space we aren't trying to sell our services we aren't making any isk on it and you certainly aren't going to get rich by joining us. We provide a place for people who want to practice warfare and tactics that's it.
We give people a way to baby step into PVP many of our members are former carebears who've decided to get into PVP and we're providing them skills and the nerve to step out into other area's of EVE. People who someday will be tooling around low and null sec providing you with fleet mates an targets.
Whether you think that we do PVP right or not I'd think that if you enjoy PVP you'd support our efforts at creating more interest in the activity. Which should result in more and better targets everywhere in EVE.
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siC0 b0b
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Posted - 2010.07.13 18:10:00 -
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RvB sucks for new players, FW is better, losec pirating is best. lol @ ur "faction grind" required for FW, lol wtf? major corps not accepting random newbs? no ****? so fail. You didn't do anything beside rvb so don't poast **** plz
i'd <3 to see that cruiser km, plz post, enjoyin' ur smarb rifters in hisec so i want moar
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Shade Millith
Caldari Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.07.13 18:25:00 -
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Originally by: Skex Relbore Crapola
I'm sorry, but this entire post is a recruitment post.
I love RvB, and have enjoyed having an alt in there for some time, and think it's a great thing, but this **** on the forums gets annoying.
Everything beyond "There's a lotta pilots and we don't really control them" is unnessicary. ------------------------
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Skex Relbore
Gallente Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.13 18:31:00 -
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Originally by: Shade Millith
Originally by: Skex Relbore Crapola
I'm sorry, but this entire post is a recruitment post.
I love RvB, and have enjoyed having an alt in there for some time, and think it's a great thing, but this **** on the forums gets annoying.
Everything beyond "There's a lotta pilots and we don't really control them" is unnessicary.
Hey I said I didn't create the opportunity not that I wouldn't capitalize on it 
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Ilona Nightwing
Minmatar Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.07.13 18:32:00 -
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Edited by: Ilona Nightwing on 13/07/2010 18:32:17
Originally by: Shade Millith I'm sorry, but this entire post is a recruitment post.
It certainly isn't intended as such.
That is what actually happened, everybody basically said 'go away' except the RvB guys, including the FW stuff. I went to the RvB guys last.
So it is both autobiography, and thank you.
I'm sure other newbies looking at PvP who are on this forum asking where to get it will be interested in my experiences. There are plenty of pirate guides that just say 'Go to low sec in a Rifter and you will do OK', well, wasn't my experience, I went, I roamed, I got a single pod kill (hence the security status I got atm if the paranoid want to fact check) and that was it. Bit of a snooze really.
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Drake Konstantin
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Posted - 2010.07.13 18:35:00 -
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Originally by: siC0 b0b RvB sucks for new players, FW is better, losec pirating is best. lol @ ur "faction grind" required for FW, lol wtf? major corps not accepting random newbs? no ****? so fail. You didn't do anything beside rvb so don't poast **** plz
i'd <3 to see that cruiser km, plz post, enjoyin' ur smarb rifters in hisec so i want moar
0/10
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Milla Jovobitch
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Posted - 2010.07.13 18:42:00 -
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Originally by: Skex Relbore blablablablablablablablablabla...
Skex Relbore's Endless-Wall-of-Text strikes you perfectly, wrecking for 8221.1 damage.
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Skex Relbore
Gallente Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.13 18:45:00 -
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Originally by: Milla Jovo*****
Originally by: Skex Relbore blablablablablablablablablabla...
Skex Relbore's Endless-Wall-of-Text strikes you perfectly, wrecking for 8221.1 damage.
/bow
well played
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Ilona Nightwing
Minmatar Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.07.13 18:46:00 -
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Edited by: Ilona Nightwing on 13/07/2010 18:50:33 Edited by: Ilona Nightwing on 13/07/2010 18:49:18 Edited by: Ilona Nightwing on 13/07/2010 18:47:16
Originally by: siC0 b0b RvB sucks for new players, FW is better, losec pirating is best. lol @ ur "faction grind" required for FW, lol wtf? major corps not accepting random newbs? no ****? so fail. You didn't do anything beside rvb so don't poast **** plz
Huh? What have I done to make you think I'm lying?
As for grinding, yup, try making a new character, first thing you do is hit 'join militia', what does it say? It says go get standings. I'm too lazy.
I did ask a whole bunch of Minmatar FW corps, like all of them that I could find, on recruitment channel, or not as I was hunting them down on here, and all bar one of them just blew me off, and that one wanted a 14 day old character minimum.
And I am impatient. Two weeks of being bored in empty Molden Heath wasn't really something I was up for.
Quote: i'd <3 to see that cruiser km, plz post, enjoyin' ur smarb rifters in hisec so i want moar
The rat killed the cruiser, I killed the pod, weren't you reading? :P The cruiser got warp scrambled by me, and I did dent it a fair bit, but the rat got the killing shot and did most of the damage. The cruiser didn't get away, though... 
Have a look at my security status in game. A bit of aggression and one pods worth.
For that matter if you google 'Ilona Nightwing' you'll find some evidence of me bumming around in low sec Oddelulf before giving up on finding helpless innocents to rifterise there.
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Skex Relbore
Gallente Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.13 19:08:00 -
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Originally by: Ilona Nightwing Edited by: Ilona Nightwing on 13/07/2010 18:47:16
Originally by: siC0 b0b RvB sucks for new players, FW is better, losec pirating is best. lol @ ur "faction grind" required for FW, lol wtf? major corps not accepting random newbs? no ****? so fail. You didn't do anything beside rvb so don't poast **** plz
Huh? What have I done to make you think I'm lying?
As for grinding, yup, try making a new character, first thing you do is hit 'join militia', what does it say? It says go get standings. I'm too lazy.
I did ask a whole bunch of Minmatar FW corps, like all of them that I could find, on recruitment channel, or not as I was hunting them down on here, and all bar one of them just blew me off, and that one wanted a 14 day old character minimum.
And I am impatient.
Quote: i'd <3 to see that cruiser km, plz post, enjoyin' ur smarb rifters in hisec so i want moar
The rat killed the cruiser, I killed the pod, weren't you reading? :P The cruiser got warp scrambled by me, and I did dent it a fair bit, but the rat got the killing shot and did most of the damage. The cruiser didn't get away, though... 
Have a look at my security status in game. A bit of aggression and one pods worth.
You'd still get a killmail for both the cruiser and the pod.
Since it's not up on BC that means that either you didn't post the killmail the victim didn't post the lossmail and neither of you have your API's in BC (not entirely unbelieveable for PVP newbies) or your lying. The solution is to go to your character screen go to the last section Combat record I think and locate the kill mail. Double click it copy all the text from the resulting popup then open battleclinic go to the eve killboard and paste the text into the space. Submit killmail and we'll be able to see it.
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Ilona Nightwing
Minmatar Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.07.13 19:24:00 -
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Originally by: Skex Relbore Since it's not up on BC that means that either you didn't post the killmail the victim didn't post the lossmail and neither of you have your API's in BC (not entirely unbelieveable for PVP newbies) or your lying. The solution is to go to your character screen go to the last section Combat record I think and locate the kill mail. Double click it copy all the text from the resulting popup then open battleclinic go to the eve killboard and paste the text into the space. Submit killmail and we'll be able to see it.
Well, that is mystifying, as theres no pod in there - but there is a Rifter in there... Bizarre. I don't remember killing any Rifter.
Battleclinic, looks like you have to register, and I can't be bothered. However...
Oddelulf is low sec, and -0.3 sec rating shows I was shooting up someone illegally.
And if you don't believe that, someone put up them greasing me in Molden Heath apparently here...
Lots of dying
...so there's plenty of proof there that I was indeed bumming around in low sec looking for pew pew as soon as I was out the gate, which is the point refuting the accusation that I'm some RvB plant or something.
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Skex Relbore
Gallente Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.13 19:43:00 -
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Edited by: Skex Relbore on 13/07/2010 19:44:14
Originally by: Ilona Nightwing
Originally by: Skex Relbore Since it's not up on BC that means that either you didn't post the killmail the victim didn't post the lossmail and neither of you have your API's in BC (not entirely unbelieveable for PVP newbies) or your lying. The solution is to go to your character screen go to the last section Combat record I think and locate the kill mail. Double click it copy all the text from the resulting popup then open battleclinic go to the eve killboard and paste the text into the space. Submit killmail and we'll be able to see it.
Well, that is mystifying, as theres no pod in there - but there is a Rifter in there... Bizarre. I don't remember killing any Rifter.
Battleclinic, looks like you have to register, and I can't be bothered. However...
<snip outsized image>
Oddelulf is low sec, and -0.3 sec rating shows I was shooting up someone illegally.
And if you don't believe that, someone put up them greasing me in Molden Heath apparently here...
...so there's plenty of proof there that I was indeed bumming around in low sec looking for pew pew as soon as I was out the gate, which is the point refuting the accusation that I'm some RvB plant or something.
If you don't want to be bothered with registering to post on BC you can post it on the Blue Republic Killboardsame basic process just click on submit mail. You'll want to learn to do that since we tend to like to be able to view the killmails right after an engagement so we can better analyze the battles.
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Aiwha
Caldari 101st Space Marine Force Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2010.07.13 20:54:00 -
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RvB, you guys rock. 
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Rashmika Clavain
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.07.14 12:02:00 -
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Positng in a RvB recruitment thread.
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Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
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Posted - 2010.07.14 13:36:00 -
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RvB is great fun and I will probably be back again with my meta 0 fitted Rifter of Doom.
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siC0 b0b
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Posted - 2010.07.14 17:40:00 -
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Edited by: siC0 b0b on 14/07/2010 17:47:53 ain't there = didn't happen
it cud be possibl cruiser just selfdes, but no pod means bull**** on ur part
u only need 2 do tuts to get in fw, rly u dun no what ur talking bout
u get -sec 4 alot of ****
lol @ sayin dictor needed, complainin 'bout ev'rything, u didn't try anythin n this is just a bull**** rvb recruit post, srsly "most excellent PvP", cut ppl a break plz
edit Originally by: Ilona Nightwing Seems that unless you have an interdictor to hand that bagging traffic is not easy, certainly there were no idiots in exhumers roaming the belts of low sec on their own anyway. Even the gate camp I saw wasn't very scary.
date of birth 2010 07 09 srsly stop postin 0/10
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Skex Relbore
Gallente Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.14 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: siC0 b0b Edited by: siC0 b0b on 14/07/2010 17:47:53 ain't there = didn't happen
it cud be possibl cruiser just selfdes, but no pod means bull**** on ur part
u only need 2 do tuts to get in fw, rly u dun no what ur talking bout
u get -sec 4 alot of ****
lol @ sayin dictor needed, complainin 'bout ev'rything, u didn't try anythin n this is just a bull**** rvb recruit post, srsly "most excellent PvP", cut ppl a break plz
edit Originally by: Ilona Nightwing Seems that unless you have an interdictor to hand that bagging traffic is not easy, certainly there were no idiots in exhumers roaming the belts of low sec on their own anyway. Even the gate camp I saw wasn't very scary.
date of birth 2010 07 09 srsly stop postin 0/10
BTW thanks for bumping all these posts you make my job easy.
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Jones Bones
Final Agony
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Posted - 2010.07.14 22:17:00 -
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Who?
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siC0 b0b
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Posted - 2010.07.14 22:40:00 -
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Originally by: Skex Relbore BTW thanks for bumping all these posts you make my job easy.
m8 yeh, all
bump cuz i like 2 c ur text walls of fail on top m8
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Skex Relbore
Gallente Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.14 23:31:00 -
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Originally by: siC0 b0b
Originally by: Skex Relbore BTW thanks for bumping all these posts you make my job easy.
m8 yeh, all
bump cuz i like 2 c ur text walls of fail on top m8
Oh you're not even fun anymore I prefer to fight an armed opponent and you can't even use actual words.
Hint this is a forum not twitter you need to use complete sentences made up of actual words to be effective.
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Drake Konstantin
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Posted - 2010.07.15 01:03:00 -
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Edited by: Drake Konstantin on 15/07/2010 01:03:42
Originally by: Jones Bones Who?
not even close to clever
Originally by: Skex Relbore
Originally by: siC0 b0b
Originally by: Skex Relbore BTW thanks for bumping all these posts you make my job easy.
m8 yeh, all
bump cuz i like 2 c ur text walls of fail on top m8
Oh you're not even fun anymore I prefer to fight an armed opponent and you can't even use actual words.
Hint this is a forum not twitter you need to use complete sentences made up of actual words to be effective.
man, I SAID 0/10
hes kinda ****ty at this
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Ornella Zavalan
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Posted - 2010.07.15 08:59:00 -
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Originally by: siC0 b0b
Uh.
English. Do you speak it?
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alena fairchild
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Posted - 2010.07.15 10:50:00 -
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dont join rvb both of these corps are full of rude people specially red, some red team commander will cuss at u for missing a point or failing at targetting primary, oh yeah his name is lonewolf100 that guy is something else, likes to overship after losing lol just ask blue, some reds dont even want to fly with that guy. simply annoying. if u want pvp just join faction warfare, it is alot more fun 
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Milla Jovobitch
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Posted - 2010.07.15 11:07:00 -
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Originally by: alena fairchild full of rude people specially red
This makes me want to join again. Last time it was like a **** **** *** gentlemen's club.
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Allanis Valtreis
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Posted - 2010.07.15 11:26:00 -
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Edited by: Allanis Valtreis on 15/07/2010 11:29:14 *curse, swear* Wrong alt post
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Aralyn Cormallen
Caldari Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.15 11:31:00 -
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Originally by: alena fairchild dont join rvb both of these corps are full of rude people specially red, some red team commander will cuss at u for missing a point or failing at targetting primary, oh yeah his name is lonewolf100 that guy is something else, likes to overship after losing lol just ask blue, some reds dont even want to fly with that guy. simply annoying. if u want pvp just join faction warfare, it is alot more fun 
I normally avoid these threads (Skex is a far more literate spokesman), this is blatantly false, and clearly a personal grudge. Lonewolf is an absolutely awesome FC. Sure, can be a bit potty-mouthed, but im a talentless screw-up, and always found him amiable, fun, and willing to put up with more stress than any man should. True, he will rail on ya for not shooting the primary, but i would be worried about any fleet commander who didn't! Non Moritur Cuius Fama Vivat He Dies Not Whose Fame Survives |
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