Caghji
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.22 01:03:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Low-sec is "useless" because it's full of random, mindless PvP. If you want low-sec to be useful then it needs some "empire building" ability, (i.e. the ability for players to create security and stability so they can build a "town" (aka civilization)) otherwise it will always be a lawless wasteland. No one is going to bother investing in low-sec if they're just going to get steamrolled by pirates or an alliance. No profit, no low-sec colonization.
And if low-sec ever becomes civilized, then the pirates are just going to start whining about no longer being able to effectively function in low-sec.
Just be done with it and replace low-sec with null-sec.
Wrong GÇô Just plain Wrong
This line is said over and over again and again
And I know it to be completely wrong. It is the comment of people who have no imagination, who live in fear and refuse to take a risk.
My Story GÇô abridged form
2 and -+ years ago I bought 3 moons in low sec that helped build hypersynaptic fibres
We had very limited (read none) PvP protection GÇô so in our Corp description we wrote in English and in Russian that we were a null sec Russian logistics corporation GÇô Enquiries to my CEO GÇô recruitment closed GÇô NBSI
Needless to say we were neither Russian nor had any of our 5 corp members ever lived in null
We went untouched for 6 months.
In those six months I scanned every low sec moon in the region recording what minerals and who controlled them.
This allowed me to discover 2 new tungsten moons which were not recorded on dotlans GÇô it also allowed to identify the political landscape.
We expanded our moon mining to the tungsten moons and paired low grade moons GÇô 7 moons in total.
I had identified two areas in the region which would be off limits to us GÇô one was a pipe which had the biggest quantity of expensive moons GÇô the other was right next door to a null entrance.
Then one of our moons got attacked by a new alliance moving into the area GÇô they had already taken the expensive GÇÿpipeGÇÖ making it their GÇÿhomeGÇÖ and now were looking around for more moons GÇô Now one skill I have is negotiation GÇô I do not know why this is but I am pretty good at it GÇô and I negotiated a GÇÿreasonable protection feeGÇÖ to be paid to hold onto the moon.
I eventually got access to the alliances INTEL channel as well and built a relationship without ever joining them officially.
They the alliance attacked a neighboring moon of someone elseGÇÖs but got hot dropped and their capitals destroyed GÇô so they stopped expanding and withdrew to their pocket
I made contact with the neighbor and arranged to supply info from the alliance INTEL channel GÇô over the course of the next 6 months the alliance suffered numerable ship losses and were contained.
During all this time I became a recognized hauler in the area and became friendly with the GÇÿlocalGÇÖ pirates occasionally helping some of their new members in ratting sites they were finding difficult GÇô this meant the local pirates left me alone.
As players came and went from the system more and more moons came up for sale and I bought them. My neighbor asked if I could manage his 3 moons while he went off PvPing so another 3 + 3 low grades were added.
I eventually negotiated a drop of the GÇÿprotection feeGÇÖ as the alliance left their pocket and went to null (where on a side note they were completely humiliated and destroyed GÇô when they came back to the pocket they never asked for that protection money again) GÇô I made a point of not buying any of the pocket moons though.
After 1 and -+ years my corp of 6 indi players (we had recruited one player in that time) was in control of 29 low sec moon mining moons.
In the final 6 months we went completely unchalleneged GÇô we built 25 POCOGÇÖs when they became available with the local pirate groups helping us destroy the COGÇÖs that were there so that got blue standings and low tax.
We then got the opportunity to move to null which we took.
Over the course of 4 weeks we took down and sold our assets (29 large POS + mods sold on the market GÇô that was a nice wind fall) + the moons that we could GÇô we kept the POCOGÇÖs
We bowed out graciously.
In all that time strategy, diplomacy, and calculated risk taking got us through. In all that time we could have called upon maybe 10 BS pilots.
Low sec provides a different environment.
One key element to understand is that only GÇÿsmallGÇÖ alliances bully in low sec GÇô because if they are big they go to null sec
If you can make yourself GÇÿseemGÇÖ big the small bullies will not touch you.
When we finally had 29 moons, new reds coming to our back yard just had to look around and see 29 moon mining POSs GÇô The thought in their heads would be we are not big enough to take on anyone with that size infrastructure GÇô and anyone who was big enough GÇô they went directly to null.
Low sec provides a different environment GÇô its not high or null (doh!) discover what it is and adapt to it.
Regards
Caghji
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