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gotya	Posted - 2004.12.18 19:17:00 - [1] Ok, not been playing for long, but I keep hearing about all these alliances and stuff, but when checking the corp tab and looking at the alliances I don't see BoB or a few of the other alliances listed. So how do you join an Alliance that isn't listed? If they are not listed, does that mean they aren't a real alliance?
gotya	Posted - 2004.12.18 19:17:00 - [2] Ok, not been playing for long, but I keep hearing about all these alliances and stuff, but when checking the corp tab and looking at the alliances I don't see BoB or a few of the other alliances listed. So how do you join an Alliance that isn't listed? If they are not listed, does that mean they aren't a real alliance?
Negotiator	Posted - 2004.12.18 19:22:00 - [3] holy crap, someone in a troll atempt actually seems to have grasped it. bob aren't an alliance, a real one or not.
Negotiator	Posted - 2004.12.18 19:22:00 - [4] holy crap, someone in a troll atempt actually seems to have grasped it. bob aren't an alliance, a real one or not.
Stan hyd	Posted - 2004.12.18 19:27:00 - [5] well done STIZUM FACTA NON VERBA
Stan hyd	Posted - 2004.12.18 19:27:00 - [6] well done STIZUM FACTA NON VERBA
AvanCade	Posted - 2004.12.18 20:15:00 - [7] Originally by: Negotiator holy crap, someone in a troll atempt actually seems to have grasped it. bob aren't an alliance, a real one or not. They try to convince everyone that they are not an alliance. But they actually are, regardless what everyone says.
AvanCade	Posted - 2004.12.18 20:15:00 - [8] Originally by: Negotiator holy crap, someone in a troll atempt actually seems to have grasped it. bob aren't an alliance, a real one or not. They try to convince everyone that they are not an alliance. But they actually are, regardless what everyone says.
Bizarre	Posted - 2004.12.18 20:32:00 - [9] Originally by: AvanCade Originally by: Negotiator holy crap, someone in a troll atempt actually seems to have grasped it. bob aren't an alliance, a real one or not. They try to convince everyone that they are not an alliance. But they actually are, regardless what everyone says. Really? In what way are we an alliance then? ------------------------------------------------- Deathwing > U LIKE THOSE NUTS ON YA CHIN?
Bizarre	Posted - 2004.12.18 20:32:00 - [10] Originally by: AvanCade Originally by: Negotiator holy crap, someone in a troll atempt actually seems to have grasped it. bob aren't an alliance, a real one or not. They try to convince everyone that they are not an alliance. But they actually are, regardless what everyone says. Really? In what way are we an alliance then? ------------------------------------------------- Deathwing > U LIKE THOSE NUTS ON YA CHIN?
John Farson	Posted - 2004.12.18 20:48:00 - [11] Originally by: Bizarre Really? In what way are we an alliance then? alÀliÀance 1. A close association of nations or other groups, formed to advance common interests or causes: an alliance of labor unions opposing the bill. 2. A formal agreement establishing such an association, especially an international treaty of friendship.
John Farson	Posted - 2004.12.18 20:48:00 - [12] Originally by: Bizarre Really? In what way are we an alliance then? alÀliÀance 1. A close association of nations or other groups, formed to advance common interests or causes: an alliance of labor unions opposing the bill. 2. A formal agreement establishing such an association, especially an international treaty of friendship.
Amthrianius	Posted - 2004.12.18 20:54:00 - [13] Originally by: John Farson Originally by: Bizarre Really? In what way are we an alliance then? alÀliÀance 1. A close association of nations or other groups, formed to advance common interests or causes: an alliance of labor unions opposing the bill. 2. A formal agreement establishing such an association, especially an international treaty of friendship. frigÀate ( P ) Pronunciation Key (frgt) n. A warship, usually of 4,000 to 9,000 displacement tons, that is larger than a destroyer and smaller than a cruiser, used primarily for escort duty. Clearly the dictionary counts in online space game databases!!!!! ---------------
Amthrianius	Posted - 2004.12.18 20:54:00 - [14] Originally by: John Farson Originally by: Bizarre Really? In what way are we an alliance then? alÀliÀance 1. A close association of nations or other groups, formed to advance common interests or causes: an alliance of labor unions opposing the bill. 2. A formal agreement establishing such an association, especially an international treaty of friendship. frigÀate ( P ) Pronunciation Key (frgt) n. A warship, usually of 4,000 to 9,000 displacement tons, that is larger than a destroyer and smaller than a cruiser, used primarily for escort duty. Clearly the dictionary counts in online space game databases!!!!! ---------------
SweatySack	Posted - 2004.12.18 21:06:00 - [15] If you feel an alliance in this game is as simple as a group of corps working together for a common goal, then I guess we fit that discription a bit. However, I feel an alliance is a group of corps that set up a council that makes choices for all the people within said alliance. We dont have that.
SweatySack	Posted - 2004.12.18 21:06:00 - [16] If you feel an alliance in this game is as simple as a group of corps working together for a common goal, then I guess we fit that discription a bit. However, I feel an alliance is a group of corps that set up a council that makes choices for all the people within said alliance. We dont have that.
John Farson	Posted - 2004.12.18 21:19:00 - [17] Edited by: John Farson on 18/12/2004 21:20:50 Originally by: Amthrianius frigÀate ( P ) Pronunciation Key (frgt) n. A warship, usually of 4,000 to 9,000 displacement tons, that is larger than a destroyer and smaller than a cruiser, used primarily for escort duty. Clearly the dictionary counts in online space game databases!!!!! Yes, because CCP's lack of knowledge pertaining to how ships are classified has everything to do with the meaning of a basic English word like "alliance". Are you saying my definition is wrong? You are not in fact a close association of groups formed to advance common interests? Oh, wait, I forgot. You're a close association of groups formed to advance Molle's interests.
John Farson	Posted - 2004.12.18 21:19:00 - [18] Edited by: John Farson on 18/12/2004 21:20:50 Originally by: Amthrianius frigÀate ( P ) Pronunciation Key (frgt) n. A warship, usually of 4,000 to 9,000 displacement tons, that is larger than a destroyer and smaller than a cruiser, used primarily for escort duty. Clearly the dictionary counts in online space game databases!!!!! Yes, because CCP's lack of knowledge pertaining to how ships are classified has everything to do with the meaning of a basic English word like "alliance". Are you saying my definition is wrong? You are not in fact a close association of groups formed to advance common interests? Oh, wait, I forgot. You're a close association of groups formed to advance Molle's interests.
Deka Kador	Posted - 2004.12.18 21:21:00 - [19] Originally by: John Farson Originally by: Bizarre Really? In what way are we an alliance then? alÀliÀance 1. A close association of nations or other groups, formed to advance common interests or causes: an alliance of labor unions opposing the bill. 2. A formal agreement establishing such an association, especially an international treaty of friendship. Unfortunately, the definition of an alliance in Eve is measured against its appearance in the alliance screens of your corporation tab in the Neocom. If they're not there, they're not an alliance.
Deka Kador	Posted - 2004.12.18 21:21:00 - [20] Originally by: John Farson Originally by: Bizarre Really? In what way are we an alliance then? alÀliÀance 1. A close association of nations or other groups, formed to advance common interests or causes: an alliance of labor unions opposing the bill. 2. A formal agreement establishing such an association, especially an international treaty of friendship. Unfortunately, the definition of an alliance in Eve is measured against its appearance in the alliance screens of your corporation tab in the Neocom. If they're not there, they're not an alliance.
John Farson	Posted - 2004.12.18 21:22:00 - [21] Edited by: John Farson on 18/12/2004 21:28:15 Originally by: Deka Kador Originally by: John Farson Originally by: Bizarre Really? In what way are we an alliance then? alÀliÀance 1. A close association of nations or other groups, formed to advance common interests or causes: an alliance of labor unions opposing the bill. 2. A formal agreement establishing such an association, especially an international treaty of friendship. Unfortunately, the definition of an alliance in Eve is measured against its appearance in the alliance screens of your corporation tab in the Neocom. If they're not there, they're not an alliance. So by your definition, the JQA Alliance basically doesn't exist. I'm sure they'll be glad to hear that. Also, the Fade Union is still recognized by CONCORD, yet everyone knows they're dead. Are they more of an alliance than JQA? The CONCORD system is not the only way of being an alliance.
John Farson	Posted - 2004.12.18 21:22:00 - [22] Edited by: John Farson on 18/12/2004 21:28:15 Originally by: Deka Kador Originally by: John Farson Originally by: Bizarre Really? In what way are we an alliance then? alÀliÀance 1. A close association of nations or other groups, formed to advance common interests or causes: an alliance of labor unions opposing the bill. 2. A formal agreement establishing such an association, especially an international treaty of friendship. Unfortunately, the definition of an alliance in Eve is measured against its appearance in the alliance screens of your corporation tab in the Neocom. If they're not there, they're not an alliance. So by your definition, the JQA Alliance basically doesn't exist. I'm sure they'll be glad to hear that. Also, the Fade Union is still recognized by CONCORD, yet everyone knows they're dead. Are they more of an alliance than JQA? The CONCORD system is not the only way of being an alliance.
idimmu69	Posted - 2004.12.18 21:53:00 - [23] Edited by: idimmu69 on 18/12/2004 21:56:05 All this controversy (spelling sucks today) about whether or not BoB is an alliance is really getting old. By saying that any two or more corps that enter into a friendship are an alliance, then every corp in eve (pretty much) would be in an alliance. Just about every corp in Eve has relationships with other corps. This does not make them an alliance, only friends with mutual interests. Just my "personal" opinion. Please stop trying to lump BoB together as an alliance. We are "seperate" corporations, with individual goals. Sometimes these goals coincide, sometimes they don't. The point of not being a formal alliance really simplifies the problem of when these goals do not coincide. As stated above, this reply is only personal opinion. Please do not flame. Just sharing my point of view edit: to try and contribute something constructive to this reply. Informal groups/alliances/whatever are usually joined by applying to a member corp. If your application is accepted, then you'd be a part of said group/alliance/whatever. thanks
idimmu69	Posted - 2004.12.18 21:53:00 - [24] Edited by: idimmu69 on 18/12/2004 21:56:05 All this controversy (spelling sucks today) about whether or not BoB is an alliance is really getting old. By saying that any two or more corps that enter into a friendship are an alliance, then every corp in eve (pretty much) would be in an alliance. Just about every corp in Eve has relationships with other corps. This does not make them an alliance, only friends with mutual interests. Just my "personal" opinion. Please stop trying to lump BoB together as an alliance. We are "seperate" corporations, with individual goals. Sometimes these goals coincide, sometimes they don't. The point of not being a formal alliance really simplifies the problem of when these goals do not coincide. As stated above, this reply is only personal opinion. Please do not flame. Just sharing my point of view edit: to try and contribute something constructive to this reply. Informal groups/alliances/whatever are usually joined by applying to a member corp. If your application is accepted, then you'd be a part of said group/alliance/whatever. thanks
meowcat	Posted - 2004.12.18 21:57:00 - [25] pedant noun a person who is too interested in formal rules and small unimportant details pedantic Pronunciation: pi-'dan-tik Function: adjective 1 : of, relating to, or being a pedant 2 : narrowly, stodgily, and often ostentatiously learned ~~~~)\~~~~~\o/~~~~ yeah but no but yeah but no but
meowcat	Posted - 2004.12.18 21:57:00 - [26] pedant noun a person who is too interested in formal rules and small unimportant details pedantic Pronunciation: pi-'dan-tik Function: adjective 1 : of, relating to, or being a pedant 2 : narrowly, stodgily, and often ostentatiously learned ~~~~)\~~~~~\o/~~~~ yeah but no but yeah but no but
theRaptor	Posted - 2004.12.18 21:57:00 - [27] Originally by: John Farson So by your definition, the JQA Alliance basically doesn't exist. I'm sure they'll be glad to hear that. Also, the Fade Union is still recognized by CONCORD, yet everyone knows they're dead. Are they more of an alliance than JQA? The CONCORD system is not the only way of being an alliance. Not to mention that several large alliances sprung from the ground fully formed in late november. That said, I have flown with BoB and know they don't operate like the other alliances, they are very informal. And you don't hear them *****ing about who is fighting the most, who deserves to be in charge etc etc. --------------------------------------------------
theRaptor	Posted - 2004.12.18 21:57:00 - [28] Originally by: John Farson So by your definition, the JQA Alliance basically doesn't exist. I'm sure they'll be glad to hear that. Also, the Fade Union is still recognized by CONCORD, yet everyone knows they're dead. Are they more of an alliance than JQA? The CONCORD system is not the only way of being an alliance. Not to mention that several large alliances sprung from the ground fully formed in late november. That said, I have flown with BoB and know they don't operate like the other alliances, they are very informal. And you don't hear them *****ing about who is fighting the most, who deserves to be in charge etc etc. --------------------------------------------------
Carmen Priano	Posted - 2004.12.18 22:00:00 - [29] The useage of 'Alliance' in EVE is generally rather specific -- and it doesn't explain a case like BoB. BoB, as most of us know, stands for Band of Brothers -- and a band of brothers it is. There's no 'alliance application process,' no 'central council,' no 'alliance holding account' or the like -- we're an association of pilots who have fought together for long enough that we're like brothers. And what do brothers do? When their aims are the same, they act with unity and a great deal more closeness than most alliances will. When their aims are different, well -- like brothers, one wishes the other well and continues on.
Carmen Priano	Posted - 2004.12.18 22:00:00 - [30] The useage of 'Alliance' in EVE is generally rather specific -- and it doesn't explain a case like BoB. BoB, as most of us know, stands for Band of Brothers -- and a band of brothers it is. There's no 'alliance application process,' no 'central council,' no 'alliance holding account' or the like -- we're an association of pilots who have fought together for long enough that we're like brothers. And what do brothers do? When their aims are the same, they act with unity and a great deal more closeness than most alliances will. When their aims are different, well -- like brothers, one wishes the other well and continues on.
Negotiator	Posted - 2004.12.18 22:42:00 - [31] I don't think this can get any easier. We don't claim to be an alliance. The name "BoB" was made so people don't call us ev0lreikokum0obncatuktion. Those entities that claim they are alliances are welcome to do so, that's why the system was made for you. We don't claim so, we don't function as such. Why would we conform to other people's view of us if we ARENT SUCH AS WE ARE VIEWED? Exactly, thought so... Now go get more lube.
Negotiator	Posted - 2004.12.18 22:42:00 - [32] I don't think this can get any easier. We don't claim to be an alliance. The name "BoB" was made so people don't call us ev0lreikokum0obncatuktion. Those entities that claim they are alliances are welcome to do so, that's why the system was made for you. We don't claim so, we don't function as such. Why would we conform to other people's view of us if we ARENT SUCH AS WE ARE VIEWED? Exactly, thought so... Now go get more lube.
Hamatitio	Posted - 2004.12.18 23:05:00 - [33] Hybrid: "The combination of two seperate entities, forming 1 new entity, usually with 'the best of both worlds'" (remembering that from a bio text book) Hybrids got the cap usage of lasers, and the ammo usage of projectiles. Woot! -- Director of Ganking: Death Row Inc.
Hamatitio	Posted - 2004.12.18 23:05:00 - [34] Hybrid: "The combination of two seperate entities, forming 1 new entity, usually with 'the best of both worlds'" (remembering that from a bio text book) Hybrids got the cap usage of lasers, and the ammo usage of projectiles. Woot! -- Director of Ganking: Death Row Inc.
slacker	Posted - 2004.12.18 23:39:00 - [35] Pwn (p¶rn) also porÀno (p¶rn) Slang .owned, ownÀing, owns v. tr. To have or possess as property: owns a chain of restaurants. 1. To have control over: For a time, enemy planes owned the skies. 2. To admit as being in accordance with fact, truth, or a claim; acknowledge. 3. CA -- slacker
slacker	Posted - 2004.12.18 23:39:00 - [36] Pwn (p¶rn) also porÀno (p¶rn) Slang .owned, ownÀing, owns v. tr. To have or possess as property: owns a chain of restaurants. 1. To have control over: For a time, enemy planes owned the skies. 2. To admit as being in accordance with fact, truth, or a claim; acknowledge. 3. CA -- slacker
Avernus	Posted - 2004.12.19 00:06:00 - [37] BoB is ... well BoB is BoB, what more does a person need to know?
Avernus	Posted - 2004.12.19 00:06:00 - [38] BoB is ... well BoB is BoB, what more does a person need to know?
DB Preacher	Posted - 2004.12.19 00:07:00 - [39] Who cares? alliance... not an alliance.... miners..... not miners..... fighters... not fighters.... Call us what you want. We are BoB. That's ALL that matters. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2004.12.19 00:07:00 - [40] Who cares? alliance... not an alliance.... miners..... not miners..... fighters... not fighters.... Call us what you want. We are BoB. That's ALL that matters. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
LoxyRider	Posted - 2004.12.19 00:24:00 - [41] Also known as Susan on the weekends. ----- Eris Discordia; I think the proper term is <3
LoxyRider	Posted - 2004.12.19 00:24:00 - [42] Also known as Susan on the weekends. ----- Eris Discordia; I think the proper term is <3
Sochin	Posted - 2004.12.19 00:47:00 - [43] Originally by: Amthrianius Originally by: John Farson Originally by: Bizarre Really? In what way are we an alliance then? alÀliÀance 1. A close association of nations or other groups, formed to advance common interests or causes: an alliance of labor unions opposing the bill. 2. A formal agreement establishing such an association, especially an international treaty of friendship. frigÀate ( P ) Pronunciation Key (frgt) n. A warship, usually of 4,000 to 9,000 displacement tons, that is larger than a destroyer and smaller than a cruiser, used primarily for escort duty. Clearly the dictionary counts in online space game databases!!!!! bahaha, owned! Nemo me impune lacessit
Sochin	Posted - 2004.12.19 00:47:00 - [44] Originally by: Amthrianius Originally by: John Farson Originally by: Bizarre Really? In what way are we an alliance then? alÀliÀance 1. A close association of nations or other groups, formed to advance common interests or causes: an alliance of labor unions opposing the bill. 2. A formal agreement establishing such an association, especially an international treaty of friendship. frigÀate ( P ) Pronunciation Key (frgt) n. A warship, usually of 4,000 to 9,000 displacement tons, that is larger than a destroyer and smaller than a cruiser, used primarily for escort duty. Clearly the dictionary counts in online space game databases!!!!! bahaha, owned! Nemo me impune lacessit
splattercat	Posted - 2004.12.19 00:57:00 - [45] Originally by: Espen profanity link removed - Vanamonde Sorry,just had 2
splattercat	Posted - 2004.12.19 00:57:00 - [46] Originally by: Espen profanity link removed - Vanamonde Sorry,just had 2
Sassinak	Posted - 2004.12.19 00:58:00 - [47] Originally by: splattercat Originally by: Espen profanity link removed - Vanamonde Sorry,just had 2 Sass Arcane Technologies
Sassinak	Posted - 2004.12.19 00:58:00 - [48] Originally by: splattercat Originally by: Espen profanity link removed - Vanamonde Sorry,just had 2 Sass Arcane Technologies
Lygos	Posted - 2004.12.19 01:25:00 - [49] Edited by: Lygos on 19/12/2004 01:25:11 What comprises a group of organized anarchists or minarchists? In such a case you have to weigh actions agaisnt words and you have 2 sources of definition-making, the viewer and the actors. To the other question, no one leads if everyone is marching in the same direction. This evaluation can be made all the time of consistent actors, or it can be made on a dynamic basis as they fall into lockstep at any point in their march through history. It's none of my concern of course if anyone in the north feels they are or are not being directed by other persons. Or whether any organizations are founded through comraderie founded on an intelligentsia syndrome, social darwinism, elite solidarity or accident. It's a natural function for persons to cleave to a self-percieved minority of individuals pursuing the same set of ideals or goals, most especially when an environment seems to make those goals the most prudent and simplest to execute.
Lygos	Posted - 2004.12.19 01:25:00 - [50] Edited by: Lygos on 19/12/2004 01:25:11 What comprises a group of organized anarchists or minarchists? In such a case you have to weigh actions agaisnt words and you have 2 sources of definition-making, the viewer and the actors. To the other question, no one leads if everyone is marching in the same direction. This evaluation can be made all the time of consistent actors, or it can be made on a dynamic basis as they fall into lockstep at any point in their march through history. It's none of my concern of course if anyone in the north feels they are or are not being directed by other persons. Or whether any organizations are founded through comraderie founded on an intelligentsia syndrome, social darwinism, elite solidarity or accident. It's a natural function for persons to cleave to a self-percieved minority of individuals pursuing the same set of ideals or goals, most especially when an environment seems to make those goals the most prudent and simplest to execute.
Nickel Deuce	Posted - 2004.12.19 02:55:00 - [51] Originally by: Lygos Edited by: Lygos on 19/12/2004 01:25:11 What comprises a group of organized anarchists or minarchists? In such a case you have to weigh actions agaisnt words and you have 2 sources of definition-making, the viewer and the actors. To the other question, no one leads if everyone is marching in the same direction. This evaluation can be made all the time of consistent actors, or it can be made on a dynamic basis as they fall into lockstep at any point in their march through history. It's none of my concern of course if anyone in the north feels they are or are not being directed by other persons. Or whether any organizations are founded through comraderie founded on an intelligentsia syndrome, social darwinism, elite solidarity or accident. It's a natural function for persons to cleave to a self-percieved minority of individuals pursuing the same set of ideals or goals, most especially when an environment seems to make those goals the most prudent and simplest to execute. Wow.. its only 10pm here, but I can't figure out what you are trying to say :\| - - - - - - - - Encoded with ROT26 ù circumvention will be prosecuted!
Nickel Deuce	Posted - 2004.12.19 02:55:00 - [52] Originally by: Lygos Edited by: Lygos on 19/12/2004 01:25:11 What comprises a group of organized anarchists or minarchists? In such a case you have to weigh actions agaisnt words and you have 2 sources of definition-making, the viewer and the actors. To the other question, no one leads if everyone is marching in the same direction. This evaluation can be made all the time of consistent actors, or it can be made on a dynamic basis as they fall into lockstep at any point in their march through history. It's none of my concern of course if anyone in the north feels they are or are not being directed by other persons. Or whether any organizations are founded through comraderie founded on an intelligentsia syndrome, social darwinism, elite solidarity or accident. It's a natural function for persons to cleave to a self-percieved minority of individuals pursuing the same set of ideals or goals, most especially when an environment seems to make those goals the most prudent and simplest to execute. Wow.. its only 10pm here, but I can't figure out what you are trying to say :\| - - - - - - - - Encoded with ROT26 ù circumvention will be prosecuted!
AvanCade	Posted - 2004.12.19 05:15:00 - [53] Originally by: Bizarre Originally by: AvanCade Originally by: Negotiator holy crap, someone in a troll atempt actually seems to have grasped it. bob aren't an alliance, a real one or not. They try to convince everyone that they are not an alliance. But they actually are, regardless what everyone says. Really? In what way are we an alliance then? Turn it around, in what way arent you ?
AvanCade	Posted - 2004.12.19 05:15:00 - [54] Originally by: Bizarre Originally by: AvanCade Originally by: Negotiator holy crap, someone in a troll atempt actually seems to have grasped it. bob aren't an alliance, a real one or not. They try to convince everyone that they are not an alliance. But they actually are, regardless what everyone says. Really? In what way are we an alliance then? Turn it around, in what way arent you ?
Lygos	Posted - 2004.12.19 05:21:00 - [55] What, you mean you never find yourself in the middle of an abstruse debate among faux-serious anarchists periodically? You know, the ones that never discuss anything BUT organizational structure afterall? No? You must run in peculiar intellectual circles. I'm sure I have a literature database compiled by a group of misfits with extremely hyphenated political titles around here somewhere if you're actually interested.. Kropotkin & co. were interesting when I was a kid, but I don't get much mileage out of it anymore.
Lygos	Posted - 2004.12.19 05:21:00 - [56] What, you mean you never find yourself in the middle of an abstruse debate among faux-serious anarchists periodically? You know, the ones that never discuss anything BUT organizational structure afterall? No? You must run in peculiar intellectual circles. I'm sure I have a literature database compiled by a group of misfits with extremely hyphenated political titles around here somewhere if you're actually interested.. Kropotkin & co. were interesting when I was a kid, but I don't get much mileage out of it anymore.
Masta Killa	Posted - 2004.12.19 05:27:00 - [57] BoB stole my candy -------------------------------------- We are The Collective. Resistance is futile.
Masta Killa	Posted - 2004.12.19 05:27:00 - [58] BoB stole my candy -------------------------------------- We are The Collective. Resistance is futile.
Blacklight	Posted - 2004.12.19 05:52:00 - [59] Originally by: Masta Killa BoB stole my candy It was good as well, thanks :) Eve Blacklight Style
Blacklight	Posted - 2004.12.19 05:52:00 - [60] Originally by: Masta Killa BoB stole my candy It was good as well, thanks :) Eve Blacklight Style
Vanamonde	Posted - 2004.12.19 06:14:00 - [61] I don't see this thread going anywhere. Flamebait. Off-topic. Locking EVE Forum Rules
Vanamonde	Posted - 2004.12.19 06:14:00 - [62] I don't see this thread going anywhere. Flamebait. Off-topic. Locking EVE Forum Rules

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