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Humpa Royd Gallente Me no likey taxes	Posted - 2010.07.17 08:37:00 - [1] I hope this is the right place to post this I have been running my corp for a bit over 2 months now and in the beginning I dedicated loads of time on recruitment. Perhaps I was doing something horribly wrong, but after speaking to over a hundred people only a small bunch joined. Tried advertising on cans, advertising ingame and recently on the boards aswell, but no luck whatsoever. I've looked over some existing corps and noticed that some younger ones are considerably larger. Makes me wonder if there are any tricks to grow your community ? I was aiming mostly for younger players who focus on PvE Perhaps someone who has more experience in this aspect could give me a few pointers here or drop me an EVEmail ? I would be very thankful :)
Charlemeign Gallente BESTIAL CARNAGE Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.07.17 08:51:00 - [2] PURGE PURGE PURGE. I love purging my corp almost as much as I love the folks in it. [07:37:53] xxxxx > concord aint got **** just chew gum first and their breathalyzer dont work P.S. this is now a WIDOT Thread The Original Orange Poaster
NC DamageControl Caldari Stellar Convertors	Posted - 2010.07.17 09:37:00 - [3] Originally by: Humpa Royd I hope this is the right place to post this A serious thread in CAOD? Well it won't work, but hey, go ahead.
Humpa Royd Gallente Me no likey taxes	Posted - 2010.07.17 09:50:00 - [4] Originally by: NC DamageControl Originally by: Humpa Royd I hope this is the right place to post this A serious thread in CAOD? Well it won't work, but hey, go ahead. I suspected that
Napro Caldari Buccaneers of New Eden On the Rocks	Posted - 2010.07.17 10:33:00 - [5] To grow big, you need a close core of members. Usually, these people know each other out of game or have been friends in game for a long long time. You can't get that type of dedication from random trial toons.
Trandaka Kirr Caldari Utopian Research I.E.L. Hedonistic Imperative	Posted - 2010.07.17 10:37:00 - [6] Originally by: Napro To grow big, you need a close core of members. Usually, these people know each other out of game or have been friends in game for a long long time. You can't get that type of dedication from random trial toons. ^^ this. If you don't know where your fellow directors live, how are you going to stab them in the face when they steal your s**t? 23.9m SP Caldari / Cov Ops V / Near-Perfect Probing Skills / T2 HML & Torp / T2 Transports & more
Humpa Royd Gallente Me no likey taxes	Posted - 2010.07.17 10:58:00 - [7] Originally by: Napro To grow big, you need a close core of members. Usually, these people know each other out of game or have been friends in game for a long long time. You can't get that type of dedication from random trial toons. I do have dedicated members, but I won't have 10+ RL friends playing. A bigger issue for me is not that I cannot get dedication from new people that join, but I am having a rather hard time finding new people at all
NAFnist Caldari NAF	Posted - 2010.07.17 11:18:00 - [8] It highly depends on what kind of members you are looking for, and what you have to offer them. Remember that people want different things from a corp. Nothing beats being present in-game. Focus on one system, be there always, pick a system that have the most potential to draw the kind of recruits you what. Getting fresh EVE players is perhaps the easiest of recruits to join (not counting spies hehe) and dedicating time to help them, ie noob, local, help-channels is by far the best way.
Oli Robbo Gallente Entity. WE FORM VOLTRON	Posted - 2010.07.17 12:51:00 - [9] take it slow, don't mass recruit.
Adeptus mecanicus Caldari The Flaming Sideburn's	Posted - 2010.07.17 13:52:00 - [10] having as mentioned a core crew is vital so directors and the CEO dont get burnt out to fast, also coms and a corp forum is a good way to tie the corp together and get the feel of who are keepers or not when recruiting. but growing to fast and having a low treshold on what you fill your ranks with has several drawbacks like: Spies or ppl that are slumbering in the corp hopeing to gain rights to rip you off. Dramaqueens and ppl that just aint right in the head. Sleepers that hardly is active at all. Getting rid of thoose types of players is vital to a corp and its more important to have a small active corp with a closeknit crew that a slumbering large one with drama all the time due to clashes of personality tho the most important thing you need is paranoia lock down bpos and if you run your corp like a junta (i do) the road to directorship is long and even if a director goes emo its not a total loss due to the corp stuff that cant be locked is scatterd between the core crew. the final step and only benefit i see of shares is that its a safeguard incase the CEOs (main share holder) acount gets hacked, coz if suddenly somebody tries to tamper with things that needs a vote to unlock the other that holds a share get a message and hopefully has the means to get a hold of the CEO in RL to try to freeze it. Recruitment

Humpa Royd Gallente Me no likey taxes	Posted - 2010.07.17 14:59:00 - [11] Thanks for the input. This was pretty close to what I am doing now. Not recruiting masses and trying to get people that are active. Really careful with assets aswell. I will try to rephrase my question a bit. If you had a 20ish people corp and wanted to grow at a rate of at least a few members a week what approach would you take ? I can list things that I have done so far: 1. Searching for 1-2 month players in NPC corps and speaking to them directly. Immensly time consuming, but yielded most members so far 2. Advertising via adverts ingame. 3. Container adverts at gates 4. A thread on the forums 5. Some people were brought in by existing members, but the corp is too small to rely on this as a consistant flow of people Is there anything I am missing ? Perhaps there is some other method ?
Royaldo Gallente Kongsberg Vaapenfabrikk Amarr branch.	Posted - 2010.07.17 15:06:00 - [12] Go to Arnon. Alot new players end up there doing the epic storyline lvl1. These are new people who have been smart enough to stay with the game for a few days, and likes it. Have a public chat channel, and invite npc corp players in there. Or send them a mail.
Adeptus mecanicus Caldari The Flaming Sideburn's	Posted - 2010.07.17 15:09:00 - [13] Originally by: Humpa Royd Thanks for the input. This was pretty close to what I am doing now. Not recruiting masses and trying to get people that are active. Really careful with assets aswell. I will try to rephrase my question a bit. If you had a 20ish people corp and wanted to grow at a rate of at least a few members a week what approach would you take ? I can list things that I have done so far: 1. Searching for 1-2 month players in NPC corps and speaking to them directly. Immensly time consuming, but yielded most members so far 2. Advertising via adverts ingame. 3. Container adverts at gates 4. A thread on the forums 5. Some people were brought in by existing members, but the corp is too small to rely on this as a consistant flow of people Is there anything I am missing ? Perhaps there is some other method ? 6. recruiting from gameing comunitys 7. making a video useing fraps to present your corp 8. as you mentioned your a pve corp then maybe if your focused in faction then create a RP angle of the corp to add flavor Recruitment
3rdTimeLucky Caldari United Amarr Templar Legion Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2010.07.17 17:24:00 - [14] Depending on what kind of PVE you do, you could also try and find other smaller, younger groups in your area doing the same thing, and try and recruit them en mass. From experience, I've found the best way to recruit is to sit in a pipe and spam mail people who meet a certain criteria; while one person does that, get 3-4 others to pick up any who reply, and chat with them, preferably in voice coms. If they seem decent, get them to join. You can afford to mass recruit on that basis, as long as keep directors roles and corp assets with your core group; if new members show initiative or leadership ability, support and encourage them, but they really don't need additional roles/access to help run mining or pve ops. Finally, be ruthless about dropping people who don't work out; as long as you've got a core group, the fact that you're hiring and firing 20+ people a month doesn't matter, especially if out of that bunch you get 1-2 people who stay.
Terrimad Gallente Haters Gonna Hate	Posted - 2010.07.17 19:46:00 - [15] listen to the FCON dude and recruit anyone with a pulse by spamming chat channels! you'll be just like ~HYDRA RELOADED~ except without the amusing troll part. then just rent space or become someone's pet. you'll fit right in.
3rdTimeLucky Caldari United Amarr Templar Legion Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2010.07.17 22:06:00 - [16] I sense some hate ...
Meno Theaetetus Gallente Wildly Inappropriate Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.07.17 22:39:00 - [17] When they join get them to come on ts and get to know everyone, if they gel then they will stay. You'd be surprised how terrible you can be and still have people stick around if people like the community. ::cough::
Darmak X99 Gallente Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2010.07.17 23:17:00 - [18] Originally by: Meno Theaetetus When they join get them to come on ts and get to know everyone, if they gel then they will stay. You'd be surprised how terrible you can be and still have people stick around if people like the community. ::cough:: True, a good community is key to not only keeping players but also recruiting. Who wants to join a corp full of people who don't get along and have a good time together?
The'Best Hellfury Caldari Incura HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.07.18 04:06:00 - [19] Finishing 2nd place in the alliance tournament and then opening up recruitment to literally everybody seems to work quite well.
Daool Gallente Ambivalence Co-operative Massive Intergalactic Love Klub	Posted - 2010.07.18 12:26:00 - [20] Edited by: Daool on 18/07/2010 12:28:05 Random pieces of poorly thought through advice to follow, so add salt grains as appropriate: * Decide what you want the Corp to be and be honest about it firstly to yourself (harder than you think) and to everyone else (easier than you think). * Decide on what you want the Corp to NOT be......etc. * Generally helpful (but not essential) get Corp into an Alliance that matches your values (though not necessarily interests). * All the recruiting you should ever need to do is to clearly and honestly articulate both the 1st 2 points above and place it in firstly the Corp Description and secondly in a recruiting add (for which you will need an office in a suitable region). Spamming local and recruiting channels and/or stalking random passers by is highly unlikely to give good rewards (primarily because it looks like you are simply trying too hard and somewhat insecure/desperate). * When you get someone wanting to join be sure that by accepting them there is mutual benefit. I ALWAYS tell brand new charachters to go and look around eve for a few days while doing as many tutorials as they can stand and maybe a few missions, and then come back if still interested. Eve's a big place and you don't want people joining out of ignorance. * Value those that join as people, not just a Corp member. Take an interest, ask questions and take note of the answers. Word of mouth and referal will be your best recruiting methods and only people who both ARE AND FEEL valued will recomend you and the Corp (besides which you should be looking at these people as potential long term friends). * Be a leader. Only 1 tip on that - be yourself. If what you 'have' cuts it then great, but no amount of faking or pretending is going to help.

Gah'Matar Minmatar Semper Liber R.E.P.O.	Posted - 2010.07.20 17:48:00 - [21] It's simple really, either: (A) You know the folks in your corp for a while. or (B) Your corp has a vision, goal, whatever and follows through with it. Also, aim for similar TZ coverage so people are actually online and corp chat is not like 2 guys for all of OZ prime time.
Rastino Minmatar Cryptonym Sleepers Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2010.07.20 21:01:00 - [22] I promise to link pictures of hot chicks in chat on a daily basis that tend to work well.
StainLessStealRat Caldari Blood Covenant Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.07.21 05:53:00 - [23] Originally by: Terrimad listen to the FCON dude and recruit anyone with a pulse by spamming chat channels! you'll be just like ~HYDRA RELOADED~ except without the amusing troll part. then just rent space or become someone's pet. you'll fit right in. Listen to FCON they grew their alliance to a very impressive level in a short time and have a great core group. Dont listen to teh haters. o7 FCON Please re-size your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels. Zymurgist
Banlish Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.21 14:18:00 - [24] Semi serious answer: 1. Actually login "hahahhaha" (lag be bad yo) 2. Realize that mass recruitment is the quickest way towards corp theft and/or spies 3. Go to the recruitment forums and 'cherry pick' people that you want. Most people looking to join new corps aren't pre-made spies. (note usually) 4. Don't just cut and paste answer the recruitment forums, nothing worse then seeing your name on 18 threads with the same stupid crap answer. 5. Use. a. spell. checker. my. lord. 6. Find good people that can read a list like this and pay them per good recruit. By that I mean 10 mill up front and 50 mill if they stay for say 6 months. 7. Actually pay 6, don't 'forget' or say 'we're kinda broke right now' 8. Be honest, if your fighting for your life against a few corps don't tell a guy with 6 hulks he should join up. Lying to your people means they'll leave and no loyalty is built. Also if you don't lie, you don't have to REMEMBER that lie. 9. May be simple but treat your people how you'd want to be treated, don't yell at em, scream, steal, lie, whatever. If you wouldn't want it done to you, don't do it to them. 10. Manlove all around for most people regardless if they want it or not. (in this way you can turn even the most straight man to the rainbow brigade) 11. Don't go afk for months on end (afk soda!) 12. No matter what happens treat your corpmates like real life friends, if you treat them like employees without paying them, don't expect them to stick around for 'the corp' just like you wouldn't go to work daily without a paycheck. 13. Do. Not. Ever. Spam. Channels. for. recruits. 14. Go back to step one. Hope it helps. P.S. Corp mergers work well too, if you see 3 or 4 corps at 40 members each, you can probably make a good 150 man corp out of it if you can quad merge (in actives won't be coming over after all, some will emo out, etc etc.) And 150+ man corps have a better chance to get into an alliance over four 40 mans corps, ask any alliance leader that owns space which they'd rather have.
HalfArse Gallente Imperial Syndicate Forces En Garde	Posted - 2010.07.21 15:27:00 - [25] Edited by: HalfArse on 21/07/2010 15:29:56 Dont just put a post on eve recruitment forums, keep it bumped, its get knocked down to second page very fast so bump AT LEAST once a day, and look at the ohter posts, quite alot of people who are looking for a new corp post there, convo them in game rather than posting on their thread. Also, as far as keeping new members in the corp and active - make sure you have clear corp goals that can easily be found by your players, either on your own forums or corp bullitins. Players generally want a purpose, let them know where you want the corp to go in the short and long term and have targets with a time scale, IE if your going to be a production corp what are you going to produce? how much capital do you need, how as a corp are your going to raise it, and keep them updated on how close to your goals you are. If you want to move into low-sec, WHEN do you want to move in, what do you want to sort out before you move, can your memebrs help you find an area to occupy? do you want to join an alliance? which one, why, etc etc players want to feel like the corp is doing something and that they are contributing towards that goal, if not they will just get bored
Random Majere Gallente Northwind Orbital Wayfarer Stellar Initiative	Posted - 2010.07.21 17:22:00 - [26] I think every alliance that is looking to grow needs to look at this on a long term basis. Recruiting experience players can be difficult and time consuming. So I think what is best is to focus on new Eve players like it is suggested above and have some kind of recruitment and development program for them. New Eve players are not ready for 0.0 and low sec flying so if you have a few individuals in your alliance willing to spend time in high sec to young pilots grow at fast speed, you will be able to hire a great number of individuals. How do you recruit? Fly around in high sec systems where you know you can find a lot of new Eve players and convo them (from local) one by one and ask them if they are interested in being part of an alliance (if you can, invite a CEO and high ranking members of your organization in the conversation). Tell them you want to help them grow and learn the game, that you can give them access to higher lvl missions where they will be making more ISK. Pay for lost ships. Provide them with the best Eve web links and tools. Give them tips on how to fit a ship. Show them everything you know!! Fly and have fun with them in missions. Have them access your vent or ts channel so that they get to know established members of the alliance and corp. Like Banlish says above, make them feel at home , respect them and listen to their concerns and if you can, act on these concerns. This all seems like a lot of effort (or baby sitting) but it pays on the long run. When they are ready to venture in low sec and 0.0 space, have a welcoming fleet to escort them in. They will love it and this will build their engagement to the alliance/corp. When they are fully integrated to 0.0, start a new "boot camp" with a fresh new batch of recruits. An organization that has a solid program like this is destined to grow and have success.... on the long run. Eve is a great place to test your true leadership & interpersonal skills in a virtual environment! If you are able to recruit young players and keep a majority of them for a long time, this can only be beneficial to your organization. At the same time, it is a good personal experience. All in a virtual universe : ). Kind of funny hey? I love this game!!! Oh and if a corp or alliance declares war to you, use this as an opportunity to do PvP roams with your recruits in high sec. Usually some experience players get down in empire space for that kind of fun so merge them with your recruits. This will lower your new guys stress level by a lot and surely create a bond with experience players within the corp/alliance. It will also give them 1st time experience on what PvP is all about.
Hatsumi Kobayashi Caldari D00M.	Posted - 2010.07.21 19:17:00 - [27] Originally by: Banlish 10. Manlove all around for most people regardless if they want it or not. (in this way you can turn even the most straight man to the rainbow brigade) Confirming bromance is a really important thing that should never be overlooked. _____
Zimi Vlasic Amarr F.R.E.E. Explorer The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.07.21 22:13:00 - [28] Eve is very much a game of networking and connections. It is very difficult to start a corp of any quality if you're a new player due to a lack of connections. You build connections by joining corps and participating and being active. If you have the right type of personality you might be able to get some people to join you on a new venture. If the people joining you are like-minded, they may know others that would like to join. etc etc... ------------------ Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer
Farrellus Cameron Gallente Sturmgrenadier Inc Gentlemen's Club	Posted - 2010.07.21 23:33:00 - [29] It is very difficult to start a new corp completely fresh. The reason why you are seeing newer corps that have grown very large is because they aren't starting from scratch. In some cases you have groups of people already affiliated with each other out-of-game in some sort of online community who collectively decide to join EVE and/or join up their existing character in EVE. However, the majority of these newer corps are the product of a group of people deciding collectively to jump ship from their former corp. Either that or two different corps that decided to merge by forming an entirely new corp. This happens all the time in EVE. A group of people become close in a pre-existing corp and then decide to strike out on their own, either because they feel they can do better on their own or because of internal strife in the previous corp. Or, two pre-existing corps decide they should merge and they do so by forming a third new corp as a fresh start and all migrating over. As a practical matter, manpower in EVE is a much sought after commodity. There are dozens and dozens of corps and alliances constantly recruiting because they want more players. You are talking to people because they are looking for a new corp - but the people are likely choosing to go with a more established corp because of the benefits that offers.
Glazy Minmatar Point of No Return Waterboard	Posted - 2010.07.22 04:08:00 - [30] "In some cases you have groups of people already affiliated with each other out-of-game in some sort of online community who collectively decide to join EVE and/or join up their existing character in EVE." He sounds like a goon



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