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Kynoch
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Posted - 2004.12.19 01:22:00 -
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Edited by: Kynoch on 19/12/2004 01:24:22
I have two seperate patched installs of eve on my PC. I used to run two accounts/clients simultaneously before Exodus...now one always crashes when both are logged in. Any ideas?
BTW Im running an AMD 2800+ 64 bit cpu with a gig or ddr ram. should be fine
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Kynoch
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Posted - 2004.12.19 01:22:00 -
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Edited by: Kynoch on 19/12/2004 01:24:22
I have two seperate patched installs of eve on my PC. I used to run two accounts/clients simultaneously before Exodus...now one always crashes when both are logged in. Any ideas?
BTW Im running an AMD 2800+ 64 bit cpu with a gig or ddr ram. should be fine
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babyblue
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Posted - 2004.12.19 02:01:00 -
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I'm running 2 clients, 2 separate installs. It crashes as often as it did with one installed. Which is quite often :)
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babyblue
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Posted - 2004.12.19 02:01:00 -
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I'm running 2 clients, 2 separate installs. It crashes as often as it did with one installed. Which is quite often :)
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Braaage
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Posted - 2004.12.19 02:10:00 -
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I run 2 EVEs and neither crashes ....
Only under Windows XP does the following work (windows 9x/2000 manages memory space differently so this wont work).
Create a new user and give it administrator rights.
Copy your eve game folder to another place (ie eve1)
Create a new shortcut to eve1\eve.exe
Right click on this shortcut and click properties
Click the Advanced button and put a tick in "Run with different credentials"
Click OK twice
Now when u run that shortcut choose the new user u made earlier and enter the password.
By doing the above Windows XP will run the above EVE session in separate memory space to another EVE running.
BTW I run both in Window mode cos it's easier to swap between them and sometimes EVE crashes when running in full screen and alt-tabbing.
Running EVE twice under the same user will always make the first one crash (If it doesn't u got lucky).
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http://www.eve-tutor.com
Picture based tutorial site for EVE-Online |
Braaage
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Posted - 2004.12.19 02:10:00 -
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I run 2 EVEs and neither crashes ....
Only under Windows XP does the following work (windows 9x/2000 manages memory space differently so this wont work).
Create a new user and give it administrator rights.
Copy your eve game folder to another place (ie eve1)
Create a new shortcut to eve1\eve.exe
Right click on this shortcut and click properties
Click the Advanced button and put a tick in "Run with different credentials"
Click OK twice
Now when u run that shortcut choose the new user u made earlier and enter the password.
By doing the above Windows XP will run the above EVE session in separate memory space to another EVE running.
BTW I run both in Window mode cos it's easier to swap between them and sometimes EVE crashes when running in full screen and alt-tabbing.
Running EVE twice under the same user will always make the first one crash (If it doesn't u got lucky).
___________________________________________
http://www.eve-tutor.com
Picture based tutorial site for EVE-Online |
Vydek Daamth
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Posted - 2004.12.19 02:11:00 -
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I run two instances of eve from the same copy. Not that great of a system, built it about 2 1/2 years ago, so I think it maybe just bad luck. Now sometimes I'll have to close my first down then restart it. AND I have to disable the sound on both (alt-ctrl-shif-f12) Otherwise they play just fine.
Try the sound trick and that maybe the issue.
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Vydek Daamth
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Posted - 2004.12.19 02:11:00 -
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I run two instances of eve from the same copy. Not that great of a system, built it about 2 1/2 years ago, so I think it maybe just bad luck. Now sometimes I'll have to close my first down then restart it. AND I have to disable the sound on both (alt-ctrl-shif-f12) Otherwise they play just fine.
Try the sound trick and that maybe the issue.
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Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2004.12.19 02:15:00 -
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 Originally by: Braaage
I run 2 EVEs and neither crashes ....
Only under Windows XP does the following work (windows 9x/2000 manages memory space differently so this wont work).
Create a new user and give it administrator rights.
Copy your eve game folder to another place (ie eve1)
Create a new shortcut to eve1\eve.exe
Right click on this shortcut and click properties
Click the Advanced button and put a tick in "Run with different credentials"
Click OK twice
Now when u run that shortcut choose the new user u made earlier and enter the password.
By doing the above Windows XP will run the above EVE session in separate memory space to another EVE running.
BTW I run both in Window mode cos it's easier to swap between them and sometimes EVE crashes when running in full screen and alt-tabbing.
Running EVE twice under the same user will always make the first one crash (If it doesn't u got lucky).
I'm gonna try that,
but ffs.. nice thinking mate!
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Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2004.12.19 02:15:00 -
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Originally by: Braaage
I run 2 EVEs and neither crashes ....
Only under Windows XP does the following work (windows 9x/2000 manages memory space differently so this wont work).
Create a new user and give it administrator rights.
Copy your eve game folder to another place (ie eve1)
Create a new shortcut to eve1\eve.exe
Right click on this shortcut and click properties
Click the Advanced button and put a tick in "Run with different credentials"
Click OK twice
Now when u run that shortcut choose the new user u made earlier and enter the password.
By doing the above Windows XP will run the above EVE session in separate memory space to another EVE running.
BTW I run both in Window mode cos it's easier to swap between them and sometimes EVE crashes when running in full screen and alt-tabbing.
Running EVE twice under the same user will always make the first one crash (If it doesn't u got lucky).
I'm gonna try that,
but ffs.. nice thinking mate!
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:: finite horizon :: killboard ::
:: bio :: blog ::
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pngzor
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Posted - 2004.12.19 02:43:00 -
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I had this same problem, and it reappears from time to time. My problem is that when one client is in space and the other is wherever, the space client freezes up, and the other client CTDs.
There is no fix yet, but there is one workaround. It seems the exodus client doesn't care too much about the "sun occluded" option. Even if you got it disabled on both clients, like you're supposed to, one client starts to "occlude" the sun anyway, and I get a crash. When it happens, I relog with the client that froze, NOT the one that ctd-.d, and rotate the camera to check the sun. It's "occluded" every time. Solution is to turn ON the occluded option, reenter game (sometimes even relog), then go back into options and turn it off (and maybe relog again *sigh*).
I don't know if this is what causes it for your clients, but you can always try to rotate the camera and check.
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pngzor
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Posted - 2004.12.19 02:43:00 -
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I had this same problem, and it reappears from time to time. My problem is that when one client is in space and the other is wherever, the space client freezes up, and the other client CTDs.
There is no fix yet, but there is one workaround. It seems the exodus client doesn't care too much about the "sun occluded" option. Even if you got it disabled on both clients, like you're supposed to, one client starts to "occlude" the sun anyway, and I get a crash. When it happens, I relog with the client that froze, NOT the one that ctd-.d, and rotate the camera to check the sun. It's "occluded" every time. Solution is to turn ON the occluded option, reenter game (sometimes even relog), then go back into options and turn it off (and maybe relog again *sigh*).
I don't know if this is what causes it for your clients, but you can always try to rotate the camera and check.
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Rattman
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Posted - 2004.12.19 02:59:00 -
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I cant run 2 clients on my athlon 2600 with 512 meg of ram and windows XP
But on my dual 1800xp with 2 gig and windows 2003 I can run them for long periods of time (like 8 hours or more).
It need to use the same OS on both machines one day to test it isn't the OS
All opinions, rambling or not, expressed here are my own and not that of my corp or alliance |
Rattman
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Posted - 2004.12.19 02:59:00 -
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I cant run 2 clients on my athlon 2600 with 512 meg of ram and windows XP
But on my dual 1800xp with 2 gig and windows 2003 I can run them for long periods of time (like 8 hours or more).
It need to use the same OS on both machines one day to test it isn't the OS
All opinions, rambling or not, expressed here are my own and not that of my corp or alliance |
Caladen
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Posted - 2004.12.19 08:25:00 -
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up untill yesterday i was able to run 2 accounts off the same install in xp with mininal lag. but today if i opened up the second one about 5min later they would both crash. dont know what the diferance is.
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Caladen
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Posted - 2004.12.19 08:25:00 -
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up untill yesterday i was able to run 2 accounts off the same install in xp with mininal lag. but today if i opened up the second one about 5min later they would both crash. dont know what the diferance is.
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Nym Qyamara
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Posted - 2004.12.19 08:37:00 -
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Im having no problems running to accounts at the same time, using my ADM XP 1.1 GHz with 769 MB ram - got a Nvidia TI-4600 GeForce with 64 DDR II(perhaps just I) not sure - about 450MHz ish. Its all good - I use Windows XP with SP 2 |
Nym Qyamara
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Posted - 2004.12.19 08:37:00 -
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Im having no problems running to accounts at the same time, using my ADM XP 1.1 GHz with 769 MB ram - got a Nvidia TI-4600 GeForce with 64 DDR II(perhaps just I) not sure - about 450MHz ish. Its all good - I use Windows XP with SP 2 |
belzebub1
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Posted - 2004.12.19 08:57:00 -
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I run 2 sessions from the same EVE install with no probles. I have W2K installed, 512 memory and a really large swap file, I can run my clients for 12 hours with no problems, I do get some laoding lag which I recon is due to my system,
Slan
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belzebub1
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Posted - 2004.12.19 08:57:00 -
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I run 2 sessions from the same EVE install with no probles. I have W2K installed, 512 memory and a really large swap file, I can run my clients for 12 hours with no problems, I do get some laoding lag which I recon is due to my system,
Slan
Belz
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Braaage
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Posted - 2004.12.19 09:05:00 -
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I forgot to add that the method I posted above is for running 2 separate EVE accounts not running 2 EVE sessions from the same account.
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http://www.eve-tutor.com
Picture based tutorial site for EVE-Online |
Braaage
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Posted - 2004.12.19 09:05:00 -
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I forgot to add that the method I posted above is for running 2 separate EVE accounts not running 2 EVE sessions from the same account.
___________________________________________
http://www.eve-tutor.com
Picture based tutorial site for EVE-Online |
infused
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Posted - 2004.12.19 11:09:00 -
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Originally by: Braaage
I run 2 EVEs and neither crashes ....
Only under Windows XP does the following work (windows 9x/2000 manages memory space differently so this wont work).
Create a new user and give it administrator rights.
Copy your eve game folder to another place (ie eve1)
Create a new shortcut to eve1\eve.exe
Right click on this shortcut and click properties
Click the Advanced button and put a tick in "Run with different credentials"
Click OK twice
Now when u run that shortcut choose the new user u made earlier and enter the password.
By doing the above Windows XP will run the above EVE session in separate memory space to another EVE running.
BTW I run both in Window mode cos it's easier to swap between them and sometimes EVE crashes when running in full screen and alt-tabbing.
Running EVE twice under the same user will always make the first one crash (If it doesn't u got lucky).
Your wrong about allot of things..
My EVE does not crash, 2 accounts, 1 install...
WindowsXP will run eve in a seperate memory space without creating another user.
it does NOT always crash with 1 install..
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infused
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Posted - 2004.12.19 11:09:00 -
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Originally by: Braaage
I run 2 EVEs and neither crashes ....
Only under Windows XP does the following work (windows 9x/2000 manages memory space differently so this wont work).
Create a new user and give it administrator rights.
Copy your eve game folder to another place (ie eve1)
Create a new shortcut to eve1\eve.exe
Right click on this shortcut and click properties
Click the Advanced button and put a tick in "Run with different credentials"
Click OK twice
Now when u run that shortcut choose the new user u made earlier and enter the password.
By doing the above Windows XP will run the above EVE session in separate memory space to another EVE running.
BTW I run both in Window mode cos it's easier to swap between them and sometimes EVE crashes when running in full screen and alt-tabbing.
Running EVE twice under the same user will always make the first one crash (If it doesn't u got lucky).
Your wrong about allot of things..
My EVE does not crash, 2 accounts, 1 install...
WindowsXP will run eve in a seperate memory space without creating another user.
it does NOT always crash with 1 install..
(\_/)
(O.o)
(> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination. |
Kynoch
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Posted - 2004.12.20 17:49:00 -
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I have been running two seperate accounts on one pc with two seperate eve installs for months now. The Exodus patch screwed that up. I will try the seperate credentials thing. I have plenty of resources. I also have some weird sound issues when alt-tabing between windowed clients.
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Kynoch
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Posted - 2004.12.20 17:49:00 -
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I have been running two seperate accounts on one pc with two seperate eve installs for months now. The Exodus patch screwed that up. I will try the seperate credentials thing. I have plenty of resources. I also have some weird sound issues when alt-tabing between windowed clients.
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Firebyrd
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Posted - 2004.12.20 18:30:00 -
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i have one copy and run 2 accounts, the main(first account running) will get choppy after about 30 min, and i reboot second account seems to clear it up, also i turn off all non esential window tasks in the background, to reduce mem needs...
i need a new vid card i think, but yes there have been some more choppyness since expansion release when running 2 accounts, i'll have to try the turning off the occluding thingy...lol, and sound as usually i get a sound warning when i start up the second account, i usually turn the speakers off anyways...lol
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Firebyrd
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Posted - 2004.12.20 18:30:00 -
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i have one copy and run 2 accounts, the main(first account running) will get choppy after about 30 min, and i reboot second account seems to clear it up, also i turn off all non esential window tasks in the background, to reduce mem needs...
i need a new vid card i think, but yes there have been some more choppyness since expansion release when running 2 accounts, i'll have to try the turning off the occluding thingy...lol, and sound as usually i get a sound warning when i start up the second account, i usually turn the speakers off anyways...lol
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In the End , there can be only 1
Today we celebrate, for tomorrow we die
learn from yesterday, that u may be stronger tomorrow
May the force be with us all |
Sister Immacolata
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Posted - 2004.12.20 21:49:00 -
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Im having some problems running two different accounts (two seperate Eve clients). If I do not turn off sound in at least one of them , Ill crash. Real nasty BSOD with reset an everything. Thats not the normal day experience in Windows XP anymore. Anyways, Im using an Audigy, and I suspect thats why I hear many pops and clicks when running two eve clients, even with sound turned off in the one.
It wasnt like that previous to Exodus.
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Sister Immacolata
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Posted - 2004.12.20 21:49:00 -
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Im having some problems running two different accounts (two seperate Eve clients). If I do not turn off sound in at least one of them , Ill crash. Real nasty BSOD with reset an everything. Thats not the normal day experience in Windows XP anymore. Anyways, Im using an Audigy, and I suspect thats why I hear many pops and clicks when running two eve clients, even with sound turned off in the one.
It wasnt like that previous to Exodus.
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Kynoch
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Posted - 2004.12.21 00:28:00 -
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Originally by: Sister Immacolata
Im having some problems running two different accounts (two seperate Eve clients). If I do not turn off sound in at least one of them , Ill crash. Real nasty BSOD with reset an everything. Thats not the normal day experience in Windows XP anymore. Anyways, Im using an Audigy, and I suspect thats why I hear many pops and clicks when running two eve clients, even with sound turned off in the one.
It wasnt like that previous to Exodus.
I get the same weird sound problems you get with an integrated SB card on the mobo so its not your sound card. I think they hosed it for us duel players
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Kynoch
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Posted - 2004.12.21 00:28:00 -
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Originally by: Sister Immacolata
Im having some problems running two different accounts (two seperate Eve clients). If I do not turn off sound in at least one of them , Ill crash. Real nasty BSOD with reset an everything. Thats not the normal day experience in Windows XP anymore. Anyways, Im using an Audigy, and I suspect thats why I hear many pops and clicks when running two eve clients, even with sound turned off in the one.
It wasnt like that previous to Exodus.
I get the same weird sound problems you get with an integrated SB card on the mobo so its not your sound card. I think they hosed it for us duel players
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Caesium
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Posted - 2004.12.21 00:47:00 -
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Edited by: Caesium on 21/12/2004 00:47:57
I run two clients, xp sp2, 1.5gb mem, ati 9800 pro, soundstorm audio, amd 3200+. Both from the same install.
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Caesium
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Posted - 2004.12.21 00:47:00 -
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Edited by: Caesium on 21/12/2004 00:47:57
I run two clients, xp sp2, 1.5gb mem, ati 9800 pro, soundstorm audio, amd 3200+. Both from the same install.
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RaTTuS
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Posted - 2004.12.21 11:44:00 -
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512MB XP-SP2 Nvidia, 2 Clients 1 install - no problems [also with 3 clients - though does get a bit chuggy]
768MB Win98 NVidia, 2 Clients 1 Install - crashes a lot - usually when 1 client exits - the keyboard can lock and that is it. - 1 client runs for hours np
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RaTTuS
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Posted - 2004.12.21 11:44:00 -
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512MB XP-SP2 Nvidia, 2 Clients 1 install - no problems [also with 3 clients - though does get a bit chuggy]
768MB Win98 NVidia, 2 Clients 1 Install - crashes a lot - usually when 1 client exits - the keyboard can lock and that is it. - 1 client runs for hours np
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Kenti Silvistrini
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Posted - 2004.12.21 12:03:00 -
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I run 3 clients from 3 EVE folders copied from my original install. Get the odd CTD once in a while since Exodus. GFX options are at minimum for 2 of the 3 clients.
AMD XP3000+ Win XP 512RAM ATI9200 128Mb
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Kenti Silvistrini
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Posted - 2004.12.21 12:03:00 -
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I run 3 clients from 3 EVE folders copied from my original install. Get the odd CTD once in a while since Exodus. GFX options are at minimum for 2 of the 3 clients.
AMD XP3000+ Win XP 512RAM ATI9200 128Mb
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Valerie Crowe
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Posted - 2004.12.21 12:42:00 -
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Edited by: Valerie Crowe on 21/12/2004 12:44:02
After Exodus I reinstalled both my Eve-installs from the full client download. Running on XP SP2 i never had a CTD since Exodus was introduced.
Only Prob is that 1st client runs at 60 fps, 2nd only on 32 fps on second monitor, but I can live with that 
P4/3.2GHz@800MHz, 2GB PC400 DDR, GF5900Ultra
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Valerie Crowe
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Posted - 2004.12.21 12:42:00 -
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Edited by: Valerie Crowe on 21/12/2004 12:44:02
After Exodus I reinstalled both my Eve-installs from the full client download. Running on XP SP2 i never had a CTD since Exodus was introduced.
Only Prob is that 1st client runs at 60 fps, 2nd only on 32 fps on second monitor, but I can live with that
P4/3.2GHz@800MHz, 2GB PC400 DDR, GF5900Ultra
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Renox
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Posted - 2004.12.21 13:10:00 -
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for some reason I have never had any trouble running two accounts (except for the rather heavy load on the cpu). They never crash for me.
I have an AMD 1400 MHz, 512 mb ram
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Renox
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Posted - 2004.12.21 13:10:00 -
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for some reason I have never had any trouble running two accounts (except for the rather heavy load on the cpu). They never crash for me.
I have an AMD 1400 MHz, 512 mb ram
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DrPhil
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Posted - 2004.12.21 15:24:00 -
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Edited by: DrPhil on 21/12/2004 15:25:38
Originally by: Braaage
I run 2 EVEs and neither crashes ....
Only under Windows XP does the following work (windows 9x/2000 manages memory space differently so this wont work).
Create a new user and give it administrator rights.
Copy your eve game folder to another place (ie eve1)
Create a new shortcut to eve1\eve.exe
Right click on this shortcut and click properties
Click the Advanced button and put a tick in "Run with different credentials"
Click OK twice
Now when u run that shortcut choose the new user u made earlier and enter the password.
By doing the above Windows XP will run the above EVE session in separate memory space to another EVE running.
BTW I run both in Window mode cos it's easier to swap between them and sometimes EVE crashes when running in full screen and alt-tabbing.
Running EVE twice under the same user will always make the first one crash (If it doesn't u got lucky).
I believe with NT based OS's windows always launches applications in their own memory space so no need to run it as another user.
Running in seperate accounts seems safer to me - although I do not believe running using the same directory will cause a crash by itself. I would recommend running seperate directories though as, for example, if one of your accounts has problems and you need to blow away all your cache or re-install it will only effect one of the accounts (folders for bookmarks, unread evemails etc).
I run up to 5 accounts on one pc and have noticed there have been CTD's caused by multiple different driver levels for nVidia cards - 66.93 seems to be a good one but there were a number of 5x levels that caused CTD's/lock ups with multiple clients, I heard reports that the later beta drivers also had issues.
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DrPhil
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Posted - 2004.12.21 15:24:00 -
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Edited by: DrPhil on 21/12/2004 15:25:38
Originally by: Braaage
I run 2 EVEs and neither crashes ....
Only under Windows XP does the following work (windows 9x/2000 manages memory space differently so this wont work).
Create a new user and give it administrator rights.
Copy your eve game folder to another place (ie eve1)
Create a new shortcut to eve1\eve.exe
Right click on this shortcut and click properties
Click the Advanced button and put a tick in "Run with different credentials"
Click OK twice
Now when u run that shortcut choose the new user u made earlier and enter the password.
By doing the above Windows XP will run the above EVE session in separate memory space to another EVE running.
BTW I run both in Window mode cos it's easier to swap between them and sometimes EVE crashes when running in full screen and alt-tabbing.
Running EVE twice under the same user will always make the first one crash (If it doesn't u got lucky).
I believe with NT based OS's windows always launches applications in their own memory space so no need to run it as another user.
Running in seperate accounts seems safer to me - although I do not believe running using the same directory will cause a crash by itself. I would recommend running seperate directories though as, for example, if one of your accounts has problems and you need to blow away all your cache or re-install it will only effect one of the accounts (folders for bookmarks, unread evemails etc).
I run up to 5 accounts on one pc and have noticed there have been CTD's caused by multiple different driver levels for nVidia cards - 66.93 seems to be a good one but there were a number of 5x levels that caused CTD's/lock ups with multiple clients, I heard reports that the later beta drivers also had issues.
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