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Bommel McMurdoc
East Khanid Trading
Khanid Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.07.22 21:05:00 -
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DrSmegma wrote:Mag's wrote:DrSmegma wrote:(It's a whole different matter that people brag about killing things that aren't worth bragging about - try Rancer, you'll get smart-bombed as a 1 day old char in an Ibis.) We don't brag about kills. Is Angry23 still there.... Oh yea he is.. a caldari shuttle, a minmatar shuttle.. then the pods.. an Ibis.. you must be proud of yourselves. Good job at kicking 1000s of players out of Eve in your lifetime. (The funny part is, you actually feel proud of it. Admit it. Else you wouldn't be doing that, and you wouldn't be posting your kills on a public website.) I got smartbombed in Rancer on my first day by angry23 in an Ibis, 4 years later I make a new char and he's still there, smartbombing me in my Ibis.
haha I remember a guy just like that, if not, worse than that, Dunno if many of you heard of him, but he was named 'GingerMagician." That guy parked a Carrier right next to a newbie zone and killed anything that came through with impunity.
If I remember correctly, He also took on CCP and started the whole warp core stabilzer nerf. |
DrSmegma
Smegma United
Asgard Supplies and Logistics
41
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Posted - 2012.07.22 21:07:00 -
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Mag's wrote:DrSmegma wrote:1.) It's on a public website. And? DrSmegma wrote:2.) Why did you feel refered to in the first place if you didn't identify yourself with my description.. You mentioned Rancer and Smartbombs.  So, where's the bragging?
Oh hey, I just discovered the "hide posts" button. No more of your idiotic one liners. Have fun smartbombing rookie ships for another 5 years and posting your kills on public websites, but not to brag, no. You probably have a really good reason. Stress in school maybe? Anyway, bye. |
Aruken Marr
BSC LEGION
Tactical Narcotics Team
217
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Posted - 2012.07.22 21:22:00 -
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DrSmegma wrote:Mag's wrote:DrSmegma wrote:1.) It's on a public website. And? DrSmegma wrote:2.) Why did you feel refered to in the first place if you didn't identify yourself with my description.. You mentioned Rancer and Smartbombs. So, where's the bragging? Oh hey, I just discovered the "hide posts" button. No more of your idiotic one liners. Have fun smartbombing rookie ships for another 5 years and posting your kills on public websites, but not to brag, no. You probably have a really good reason. Stress in school maybe? Anyway, bye.
His kills are probably pulled by api to the kill boards. Both the one's he's proud of and the one's he doesn't really care about. Also extra points for blocking the guy you're arguing with and telling him about it. If only there was that option for in game pvp am I right? |
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
529
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Posted - 2012.07.22 21:27:00 -
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Heh.
He said "*****."
In irae, veritas. |
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
529
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Posted - 2012.07.22 21:28:00 -
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Damsel in Distress wrote:erm - wrong game
Fixed.
In irae, veritas. |
Abel Merkabah
TIMELINE Industries
71
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Posted - 2012.07.22 21:29:00 -
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Praxis Ginimic wrote:This is a rediculous thread. I'm less than 2 months into this game and regularly go into low sec looking for good isk and fights. At my current level of play I find great isk and have lost all the fights. Some of them find me...I tend to lose those faster. Its a game, enjoy the sandbox. If some **** kicks sand in your face sock 'em and get back to playing.
Someone who plays with my own spirit! Well done!
"The human body can be drained of blood in 8.6 seconds, given adequate vacuuming systems." |
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
529
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Posted - 2012.07.22 21:33:00 -
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Mag's wrote:DrSmegma wrote:Mag's wrote:DrSmegma wrote:(It's a whole different matter that people brag about killing things that aren't worth bragging about - try Rancer, you'll get smart-bombed as a 1 day old char in an Ibis.) We don't brag about kills. Is Angry23 still there.... Oh yea he is.. a caldari shuttle, a minmatar shuttle.. then the pods.. an Ibis.. you must be proud of yourselves. Good job at kicking 1000s of players out of Eve in your lifetime. (The funny part is, you actually feel proud of it. Admit it. Else you wouldn't be doing that, and you wouldn't be posting your kills on a public website.) I got smartbombed in Rancer on my first day by angry23 in an Ibis, 4 years later I make a new char and he's still there, smartbombing me in my Ibis. So, where's the bragging?
Read Neg10's recruitment-forum thread recently?
And Angry23 is not good enough to be a ****, but he is very much a (British English pejorative/slang-used c-word for a certain part of the female anatomy).
(He's seriously always struck me as a very sad, empty little man, tbqfh).
In irae, veritas. |
Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
8229
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Posted - 2012.07.23 06:24:00 -
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DrSmegma wrote:Mag's wrote:DrSmegma wrote:1.) It's on a public website. And? DrSmegma wrote:2.) Why did you feel refered to in the first place if you didn't identify yourself with my description.. You mentioned Rancer and Smartbombs. So, where's the bragging? Oh hey, I just discovered the "hide posts" button. No more of your idiotic one liners. Have fun smartbombing rookie ships for another 5 years and posting your kills on public websites, but not to brag, no. You probably have a really good reason. Stress in school maybe? Anyway, bye. So, you can't show any bragging. Why did you lie?
CCP Zulu.....
Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
8229
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Posted - 2012.07.23 06:25:00 -
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Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:Read Neg10's recruitment-forum thread recently?
And Angry23 is not good enough to be a ****, but he is very much a (British English pejorative/slang-used c-word for a certain part of the female anatomy).
(He's seriously always struck me as a very sad, empty little man, tbqfh).
Show me on the doll, where Neg10 touched you.
We'll have fun with that comment btw, thanks. 
CCP Zulu.....
Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
8229
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Posted - 2012.07.23 06:27:00 -
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Aruken Marr wrote:His kills are probably pulled by api to the kill boards. Both the one's he's proud of and the one's he doesn't really care about. Also extra points for blocking the guy you're arguing with and telling him about it. If only there was that option for in game pvp am I right? Funny thing is, shuttles and noob ships don't even show.
CCP Zulu.....
Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
Tarn Kugisa
Bugaboo and some Pew Pew
92
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Posted - 2012.07.23 06:42:00 -
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The easiest thing to do is find some ass-end of NPC Nullsec and do your business there.
Problem is Nullsec in general might as well be called bubbleland.
I Endorse this Product and/or Service
Source Recorder-esque tool for EVE |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
Dead On Arrival Alliance
968
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Posted - 2012.07.23 08:20:00 -
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I too, am scared of losing a virtual mass of internet spaceship pixels to another player, and have an unhealthy obsession about space penises. I hope I am in the right thread.
Shiva Furnace - now recruiting solid pilots! |
dexington
56
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Posted - 2012.07.23 08:39:00 -
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Singoth wrote:And be honest, you are complaining about a lack of people in low and null, but trust me, you won't be happy with more people in low and null, because of carebears not interested in combat.
What you purpose, and what the low/null-sec players are looking for is not the same. They want more people to shoot at, not just more people flying around in space.
GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥-á |
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
648
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Posted - 2012.07.23 08:44:00 -
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2/10
shiptoastin' liek a baws |
malcovas Henderson
Smoking Minerals Syndicate
Cannabis Legionis
106
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Posted - 2012.07.23 09:29:00 -
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I could understand your arguement, if there was not this thing called diplomacy. It is not blue for a reason, and it doesn't take rocket science to understand. That Ibis/shuttle/pod, hell what ever, could be a potential eyes for your enemy. That non blue ratter is stealing. So many reasons why NBSI should always be used.
It is not hard to form coalitions. Most alliances would, I presume, like the injection of numbers.
No the real reason why Null/Lo is less populated compared to Hi. Is the fact Hi sec carebears are lazy SOB's that want everything done for them. They refuse to use the options open to them. They refuse to "talk" to null/lo alliances. They just WHAAAAAA to CCP to fix that which is not broken.
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Luh Windan
S T R A T C O M
Persona Non Gratis
68
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Posted - 2012.07.23 10:08:00 -
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Some of this thread is hilarious
Make sure you watch out for the bogie man and the monster under the bed and listen out for things that go bump in the night should you ever dare to go into nullsec too
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Vagolyroe Mirerif
Silentium Mortalitas
Mortal Destruction
0
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Posted - 2012.07.23 10:16:00 -
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Singoth wrote: EVE actually has more aspects than just comparing your space penises to other space penises. It's hard to grasp
My space ***** is not hard to grasp, it's quiet easy in fact. |
EvEa Deva
State War Academy
Caldari State
52
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Posted - 2012.07.23 12:19:00 -
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Sorry OP your playing EvE aka DicksOnline, think of it like Chess, If you don't move ( PvP) the other guy will always win. |
Anubis Star
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.07.23 12:38:00 -
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I would love to see more mining and trading in low/ null sec. But |
Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
1162
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Posted - 2012.07.23 12:50:00 -
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DrSmegma wrote:Have fun smartbombing rookie ships for another 5 years and posting your kills on public websites
Firstly, i hope to God you are a forum alt
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=DrSmegma#losses
Secondly...sooooo mad
My homeboys tried to warn me
But that butt you got makes me so horny |
Tykari
The Synenose Accord
Celestial Imperative
14
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Posted - 2012.07.23 12:53:00 -
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I'd say if you want more people in low and null sec then recruit them into your corps and educate them, so they know what they can expect, how to fight, when to fight, when to run. I think most new players simply don't understand how EVE works, because they're used to other MMO's where things work different.
I know that back when I first started I assumed that like in so many other games, a bigger ship was stronger and better than a smaller ship and wouldn't have an issue blasting them all to atoms. You end flying stuff you don't know how to fly and can't afford to lose, but you think you won't lose it anyway because it's bigger and stronger, right? But this isn't wow were a level 70 player can kill hordes of lvl 10 without breaking a sweat, but until you accept that and learn how EVE works you'll never be able to really delve into all that.
In this dark void we are like brilliant stars, holding within us both the creative and destructive power to bring a new dawn upon worlds or plunge them into eternal darkness. |
DrSmegma
Smegma United
Asgard Supplies and Logistics
49
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Posted - 2012.07.23 14:19:00 -
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I'm pacifist. As you can see my ship didn't have guns equipped.
Inb4people telling me how to play the sandbox |
Garreth Vlox
Sons Of 0din
Fatal Ascension
15
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Posted - 2012.07.24 02:32:00 -
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Singoth wrote:People there should be more welcoming to outsiders instead of shooting everything that isn't blue.
Yes, it's that simple. That's the only problem. AMAZING, isn't it?
You may say that's how EVE works, and I fully agree, but it's also the thing that prevents people from going to low and null.
And be honest, you are complaining about a lack of people in low and null, but trust me, you won't be happy with more people in low and null, because of carebears not interested in combat. And yes, EVE actually has more aspects than just comparing your space penises to other space penises. It's hard to grasp, but I don't care.
TL;DR: lowsec and nullsec people are dicks. If they are not dicks, people will go to low and null.
TL;DR: don't be dicks.
TL;DR: dicks.
Thanks for reading this useless thread that WILL get trolled to death. :D
I think the question on everyone's mind is who kicked your ass when you jumped into their pocket of 0.0 ?
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Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
494
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Posted - 2012.07.24 17:46:00 -
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Singoth wrote:People there should be more welcoming to outsiders instead of shooting everything that isn't blue.
Yes, it's that simple.
You're confused.
Just because we shoot you, doesn't mean you are not welcome.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Jimmy Gunsmythe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
78
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Posted - 2012.07.24 17:57:00 -
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Thread started with an idea that is rather spot on...lo/nulsec inhabitants are responsible for the current state of lo/nulsec.
Thread was derailed by a bag of dicks that got spilled at the terminal.
Thread then became a cautionary tale of too much **** in your post for some, and a feel good thread for others.
A good predator knows how to live in balance with his prey, lest he follow them into oblivion. |
Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
8588
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Posted - 2012.07.24 18:02:00 -
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Cearain wrote:Singoth wrote:People there should be more welcoming to outsiders instead of shooting everything that isn't blue.
Yes, it's that simple. You're confused. Just because we shoot you, doesn't mean you are not welcome. I knew there would come a time, when we agreed on something.
CCP Zulu.....
Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
The Marmite Collective
2020
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Posted - 2012.07.24 18:16:00 -
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The OP has a point. We can tell people to HTFU all we want, but when people shoot every ship they see, they don't need to be complaining that lowsec is the way it is.
A while back I went out to update a couple of market orders in deep lowsec. I just took a shuttle because I'm lazy and had one in my hangar. On my way back, a fast-locking tornado popped me on a gate. For some people, that's all the sign they need that lowsec is too dangerous for them. Then they never go back. Lowsec residents need to accept that its their own behavior that makes lowsec what it is today.
The Skunkworks is recruiting. -áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1540711#post1540711 |
RADTrooper
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.07.24 18:49:00 -
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Null is fine the way it is. You generally shouldn't be going out there without a corp, and if you want to go to sov controlled areas anyways, you should have the decency to talk to the sov holders first. I'd be pissed too if some stranger walked into my house, and ate my food, and kicked my dog, and. . . you get the point. Worst that can happen is that they'll say no, in which case you look at somewhere else. They have every reason to be afraid of you when you are in null that you have to be afraid of them when they are in high burning Jita.
Low sec just sucks all around. Why would you ever want to go there? |
Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
147
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Posted - 2012.07.24 19:03:00 -
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Well it is true that the hostility encountered by anyone entering low sec or to the a lesser extent null sec, is a major deterrent for many bears to go into those systems. What really do you expect? Most PVPers do not care about anything but PVP. They do not care if you are one day old in a noob ship or a 9 year vet in a 20 bil officer fit T3. They are just looking for something to kill. That is what PVP is.
Mind you PVP games would be a lot more fun if there was more mutual respect and less ganking, but that is just what you will find in any PVP game, it will never change.
One idea I had, and feel free to flame away, it is just a thought.
EVE has always been a "think outside of the box kind of game". meaning that it is not made like other MMO's. why stop at the lines between high sec/low sec or carebears/PVPers? there is a lot of room for those lines to get a lot more blurry. Why does it have to be in this system any aggression is met by concord and the next system is a free for all. That does not seem logical with the variances in sec status. they have tried to add some variance with CONCORD being slower the lower sec you get and low sec does have gate guns. but there is still much room to blurr the lines.
I think there should not be such a solid line between high sec and low sec. I believe it should be based more on your sec status and less on the sec of the system you are in. CONCORD should still be limited to systems 0.5 sec and higher, even make 0.5 and 0.6 systems more dangerous by reducing CONCORD response times even more. CONCORD will still come, but unless you have very high sec status you will be dead when they get there. Each system would have a CONCORD response time based on sec rating as it is now. But the sec status of the player character should also impact this. As your sec status goes down you get a reduction in the response time of concord. for example someone with a sec status of say 5.0 gets 100% response time for concord based on the system response time. while a character with 0.0 sec status Concord would be 50% slower coming to their aid, and someone with -0.25 sec status would wait 75% longer. response time would get slower and slower until the point where you are enough of a criminal that CONCORD will not come to your rescue at all. This way each player characters choices to either be a law abiding citizen or participate in criminal actions will affect your safety, no matter what system you are in. high sec gankers can target other criminals in high sec with less risk while law abiding citizens get slightly better protection.
To further blurr the lines I would like to see some increase in defense for those with high security and faction standings in low sec. Gate guns are not enough. unless they became way more powerful. this would of course decline as the sec status when down. Decent protection for those with high faction standing in a 0.4 system declining in lower sec systems and declining as your faction standings go down. Not near what you get from CONCORD in high sec, but maybe empire navy ships coming to your aid. these would not be urber pop you in one shot invulnerable ships like CONCORD, they would be just normal NPC navy ships defending their loyal subjects. The higher your standing with the faction controlling that system the more powerful ships will show up to help you. Maybe for those with 8.0 or higher faction in a 0.4 system give the defenders a module that prevents warp disruptions and scramblers from working so the character they are defending has a chance to escape. I am not talking massive defense here that would destroy a gate camping fleet, just enough to soften the transition from high sec to low sec. 2-3 ships to help you increase your chances of survival. Just to give you a chance at escape. If you take the time to grind your sec status and faction standings up you should benefit from added protection over someone who regularly participates in criminal activity. A 3-4 ship gate camp should still have no problem getting their target, but 1-2 man gate camps are far more common and just as dangerous to a T1 indy or mining barge just passing through.
A battleship and a couple cruisers showing up to help could be just enough to help you escape. Even make this protection for non combat ships only. If a gate camp fires on a non combat ship it will not be such an easy kill. Give them a reason to not shoot non combat ships. It is still empire space although less secure. The Navy forces defending there should at least try to defend civilians.
Maybe null sec could also get some changes. If you are in NPC null and have high standings with the controlling faction you should be slightly safer than someone without good standings. Not to say safe, just slightly safer. Gate guns are little more than a nuisance, but if they pop the tackler, you may just get away. Even in SOV null sec you should be able to set up gate guns that will defend anyone in your alliance or even those set to blue and auto attack your enemies. It should be a pain in the butt to set up a gate camp in a system belonging to your enemies, they control that space, they should be able to add some static defenses.
This idea may suck bad. It was just a thought, maybe a brain fart. But all I was thinking was making the division between high sec and null sec not so defined. It should get gradually more dangerous. Not 0.5 sec is safe 0.4 sec you're dead.
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Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
191
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Posted - 2012.07.24 19:08:00 -
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Singoth wrote:People there should be more welcoming to outsiders instead of shooting everything that isn't blue.
Yes, it's that simple. That's the only problem. AMAZING, isn't it?
You may say that's how EVE works, and I fully agree, but it's also the thing that prevents people from going to low and null.
And be honest, you are complaining about a lack of people in low and null, but trust me, you won't be happy with more people in low and null, because of carebears not interested in combat. And yes, EVE actually has more aspects than just comparing your space penises to other space penises. It's hard to grasp, but I don't care.
TL;DR: lowsec and nullsec people are dicks. If they are not dicks, people will go to low and null.
TL;DR: don't be dicks.
TL;DR: dicks.
Thanks for reading this useless thread that WILL get trolled to death. :D
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Some one who blows me up for wandering into low with my hauler is a pirate. They are doing what they want to do and making isk. In this case, they made isk off of my misfortune. They are not, as you state, a ****.
Is this what keeps most carebears out of low? Yes and no. Carebears are kept out of low/null due to the fear of these individuals. Just reflecting on the concept "In Low sec players can be shot without concord intervention" strikes fear in the heart of many, regardless of the presence of any actual pirates in a given system.
The point is, risk-adverse players will continue to avoid low/null regardless of the attitude of the players who live there. If attitude to neutral players was the only thing keeping people out of low/null, why aren't more carebears hanging out in NRDS regions? Unless CCP changes the actual game mechanics of combat in low/null (which I am NOT advocating for...it would destroy the culture in low) that is unlikely to change.
In the cat-and-mouse game that is low sec, there is no shame in learning to be a better mouse. |
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