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Posted - 2010.07.23 17:52:00 -
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 Originally by: Fumitsugu
Originally by: Cosmic Rainbow
Nerf Tier 2 BC's (in 18 months to 2 years, IF you get around to it CCP FFS)
You're very wrong. And repetitive. Tier 2 BCs are fine (read: most balanced class in the game), boost tier 1s maybe.
Tier 2 BCs are the best balanced ships in the game with regards to EACH OTHER. They are without a doubt the LEAST balanced ship class in the game with regards to just about every other type of ship. Tier 1 BCs need a boost, field CSs need a boost, hell fleet CSs could use some minor tweaking (because of how much better t3 does the whole boosty-thing).
When people talk about tier 2 BCs being balanced better than other ship classes, they're referring to the fact that each one is roughly as useful as every other one. IMO the drake is still the best, but it's not that much better than the harb, myrm or cane. What this does NOT mean is that the class as a whole is balanced properly with the rest of the game, because they very much are not, and this problem becomes more apparent when you look at field CSs.
Originally by: Party Scout
Uh... A command ship, as its name implies, is a command ship. A command platform. Nowhere does it say it's a buffed up BC, or an upgrade to it. It's supposed to buff the fleet, fit 3 command modules on it, and it can do that so much better than a BC. It even has bonuses to that end, because that is its role. Its role is not to beat the BC at absolutely everything.
That's like expecting a logistics ships to hit harder than a t1 cruiser... Sure it uses the same hull, but its role is completely different.
At first I was going to ask if you've ever actually flown a CS, but I think this question is more appropriate:
Have you ever even LOOKED THEM UP in the market/item database? You DO know that there are 2 types of CSs right? The fleet CSs are the gang boosters and the field CSs are essentially HACs with BC models. The field CSs do NOT get any bonuses to gang mods (save the CPU one which tech I BCs get as well).
THAT is the class most people want to see buffed. Aside from the sleip, which is by a wide margin the best field CS, the tier 2 BCs give almost identical performance for a tiny fraction of the SP and isk. Also, as far as the logistics ship thing goes, I'd suggest taking a look at their t1 counterparts; you'll notice that they're not damage dealing cruisers, but RR cruisers, and yes, the logistics ships DO do that job better than their t1 counterparts. |
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Posted - 2010.07.23 21:24:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Fon Revedhort
This selfishness is so evident and so pathetic that there's no real way to actually explain something.
Same goes for having them nerfed.
Most of the people wanting tier 2 BCs nerfed say so because they're too good when compared to their t2 counterparts. TBH most of the complaints would disappear with the un-sucking of the fiedl CSs. Several lvl 5s and a few hundred mil extra should mean that they have a notable advantage over their tech 1 counterparts, or at least a specific role, but as it stands tier 2 BCs and tech field CSs have the exact same role in combat, but one costs several times the other.
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