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Rone Corbusier
Gallente The Intaki Ladies Deep Space Astrogation Auxiliary
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Posted - 2010.07.24 16:35:00 -
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I just trained up for it and now my Dad gave me some isk and a Golem for my 16th birthday! I have 5b isk to fit a Golem with.
I only wish to fly it for level 4 missions so I can afford to fit it the best possible.
Can someone give me a good fitting for it please? I tried torps and x-l shield booster but it doesn't fit. I don't want to put PDS on it ideally, I want (I think) 3 BCU and a damage control).
Thanks for any help.
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NoNah
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Posted - 2010.07.24 16:40:00 -
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[Golem, New Setup 4] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy X-Large Shield Booster Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Domination Target Painter Domination Target Painter Domination Target Painter Gist B-Type 100MN Afterburner Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 25
Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Javelin Torpedo Small Tractor Beam I Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Javelin Torpedo Salvager II Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Javelin Torpedo Small Tractor Beam I Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Javelin Torpedo
Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Hobgoblin II x5 Hammerhead II x5
That's pretty much as good as it gets. If you really want to spend more isk on it, get crystal implants and possible better BCUs even if I wouldn't recommend it. If you're desperate for income and speed, go with a decent smartbomb, but if you don't know how to handle it, don't use it. Parrots, commence!
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Peckles
Pyrotechnics Inc.
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Posted - 2010.07.24 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: NoNah go with a decent smartbomb
This more than anything else.
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Rone Corbusier
Gallente The Intaki Ladies Deep Space Astrogation Auxiliary
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Posted - 2010.07.24 16:58:00 -
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Lol I'm not putting 5b isk into a ship and putting a smart bomb on it so I can get concorded by some random probe ship!
I forgot to mention, is a navy raven or a rattlesnake or a ??? something else better for mission running. I'm less bothered about salvaging I forgot to mention that thanks.
I came up with this based on the above fit, I don't like not having a heavy cap thing but I guess its only to support a burst shield boost setup so its not important.
[Golem, Rone16] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Damage Control II
Pith C-Type X-Large Shield Booster Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier Core C-Type 100MN Afterburner Caldari Navy Ballistic Deflection Field Caldari Navy Heat Dissipation Field True Sansha Medium Capacitor Booster, Cap Booster 800 Domination Target Painter
Caldari Navy Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo Caldari Navy Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo Caldari Navy Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo Caldari Navy Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo Small Tractor Beam I Small Tractor Beam I Salvager I
Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Warrior II x5 Hammerhead II x5
I already have the afterburner and shield booster and hardeners so that's why I used them thanks.
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stoicfaux
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Posted - 2010.07.24 17:20:00 -
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You need T2 torp launchers in order to use Javelin torps for anything that's 41+ km away. You need 2-3 target painters in order to maximize your torpedo damage. Otherwise, you may as well just fly a CNR with cruise lanchers. If you can't use a Salvager II, then use one tractor beam and two Salvager I's.
You may want to look into a cruise CNR or cruise Rattlesnake instead.
----- "Are you a sociopathic paranoid schizophrenic with accounting skills? We have the game for you! -- Eve, the game of Alts, Economics, Machiavelli, and PvP"
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Jade Kitana
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Posted - 2010.07.24 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: Peckles
Originally by: NoNah go with a decent smartbomb
This more than anything else.
Good way to get your ship Concorded if used in Hi-Sec. A lot of players like to warp to mission sites cloaked for this reason alone.
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MrRobot
Amarr Ship Trading Company Cenit Obscenitas
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Posted - 2010.07.24 21:27:00 -
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Originally by: NoNah [Golem, New Setup 4] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy X-Large Shield Booster Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Domination Target Painter Domination Target Painter Domination Target Painter Gist B-Type 100MN Afterburner Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 25
Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Javelin Torpedo Small Tractor Beam I Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Javelin Torpedo Salvager II Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Javelin Torpedo Small Tractor Beam I Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Javelin Torpedo
Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Hobgoblin II x5 Hammerhead II x5
That's pretty much as good as it gets. If you really want to spend more isk on it, get crystal implants and possible better BCUs even if I wouldn't recommend it. If you're desperate for income and speed, go with a decent smartbomb, but if you don't know how to handle it, don't use it.
why not replacing all siege launchers with smartbombs? also put some more target painters in the mids. don't forget to activate them before launching the sb's to maximise damage. this will be the ultimate Golem, thats sure...
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Sinola
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Posted - 2010.07.25 10:36:00 -
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My Mission Golem looks like this:
4x Siege Missile Launcher II 2x Tractor 1x Salvager II
Pith A-Type X-Large Shield Booster Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier 4x Caldari Navy <whatever resistance you need> Field 1x "the best target painter that fits"
1x DC II 3x Caldari Navy BCS
1x Large Hydraulic Bay Thruster II 1x Large Rocket Fuel Cche Partition II
I always use T2 Torps and have up to about 60km range with Javelin and 40km with Rage torps Works fine... and doesnt cost 5B You can upgrade some of the Caldary Navy Fields with Pith A-Type fields, but thats not really necessary.
What would you need the Cap Boosters for? Absolutely not necessary. Your goal is to kill quick and not to permarun your shield boosters.
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Sani Venner
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Posted - 2010.07.25 11:12:00 -
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Why are people fitting an XL booster to a Golem? It's completely unnecessary. If money is no concern, there is no beating greengimp's fit:
[Golem, Torp Golem] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Domination Target Painter Domination Target Painter Domination Target Painter
Siege Missile Launcher II, Juggernaut Javelin Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Juggernaut Javelin Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Juggernaut Javelin Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Juggernaut Javelin Torpedo Small Tractor Beam I Salvager I Salvager I
Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II Large Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II
Hammerhead II x5 Hobgoblin II x5
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Robot Unicorn
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Posted - 2010.07.25 11:38:00 -
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Posting with your main and boasting that you're gonna be flying a 5bil ship in highsec isn't very wise.
Just sayin'.
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Heun zero
Caldari Moonlight Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.07.25 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: Robot Unicorn Posting with your main and boasting that you're gonna be flying a 5bil ship in highsec isn't very wise.
Just sayin'.
Yes I'll run a locator agent as soon as server is back up..
p.s. Smartbombs are the way forward man. seriously!
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agel blonde
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Posted - 2010.07.25 12:29:00 -
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Rone,
you dont need to put lots of faction n stuff in it to work well even a perma boosting shield fit will likely out dps a nighhawk which some peeps use for l4's: [Golem, perma tank]
Internal Force Field Array I Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Capacitor Power Relay II
Shield Boost Amplifier II Large Shield Booster II Shield Boost Amplifier II Cap Recharger II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Photon Scattering Field II
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile Salvager I Salvager I Small Tractor Beam I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Works quite well, else you could go for a more ganky setup with torps but you will need an ab probably aswell so then you gonna need a navy booster to get it to fit:
[Golem, torp tech2] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Internal Force Field Array I
Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Dread Guristas X-Large Shield Booster Photon Scattering Field II Target Painter II 100MN Afterburner II Target Painter II
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Torpedo Small Tractor Beam I Small Tractor Beam I Salvager I
Large Rocket Fuel Cache Partition I Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I
(the DG one is just as good as a navy one but i think its cheaper)
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Drek Grapper
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.07.25 14:04:00 -
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Edited by: Drek Grapper on 25/07/2010 14:04:41
Its simple...
3 things that must be on a T2 Seige Golem -
Must have 4 BCU's (prefferably CN)
Must have at least 2-3 TP's
Must use at least 2 Hydraulic Bay Thrusters (1 T2 and 1 T1 is ok....)
What it does not need is to perma run so it does not need an XL Shield Booster or a Cap Booster. -- "If itĘs true that our species is alone in the universe, then IĘd have to say that the universe aimed rather low and settled for very little" George Carlin |
NoNah
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Posted - 2010.07.25 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: Drek Grapper
What it does not need is to perma run, nor does it need an XL Shield Booster or a Cap Booster.
Nor is there any reason not to use either Xl boosters(Best performance, no real drawbacks). Going with a medium shield booster and no cap modules means you'll have to suboptimally manage aggro(IE shooting all triggers first for them to get in range in time)
As for the smartbomb, you are able to read reservations and understand that there are more than one way and place of flying ships like these right? There really is a world outside of motsu. Parrots, commence!
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General Trajan
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2010.07.25 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: Sani Venner Why are people fitting an XL booster to a Golem? It's completely unnecessary. If money is no concern, there is no beating greengimp's fit:
[Golem, Torp Golem] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Domination Target Painter Domination Target Painter Domination Target Painter
Siege Missile Launcher II, Juggernaut Javelin Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Juggernaut Javelin Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Juggernaut Javelin Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Juggernaut Javelin Torpedo Small Tractor Beam I Salvager I Salvager I
Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II Large Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II
Hammerhead II x5 Hobgoblin II x5
^^^now that's gangsta!
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Frozean
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Posted - 2010.07.25 21:20:00 -
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Edited by: Frozean on 25/07/2010 21:23:03 This is my fit. Only used in Minmatar space.
The fit has 400 ish dps tank, with my skills and crystal set.More then enough for missions.
The fit has 5 target painters, 2-4 dedicated to hitting with torps (the last TP still gives 5-10% vs elite cruisers, focus them).
You always run all of them like a piano. If you only need 2 for Battleships, you run 3 for your drones, making them the best hammerhead user in eve.This golems hammerheads can alpha spider drones in one hit.
Swap on TP for AB for certain missions like UMP and score. Use a Cruise CNR for sniping serpentis/mordus missions
[Golem, Torp Golem] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Domination Target Painter Domination Target Painter Domination Target Painter Domination Target Painter Domination Target Painter
Siege Missile Launcher II, Juggernaut Javelin Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Juggernaut Javelin Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Juggernaut Javelin Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Juggernaut Javelin Torpedo Small Tractor Beam I Salvager II Salvager II
Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II Large Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II
Hammerhead II x5 Hobgoblin II x5
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Peckles
Pyrotechnics Inc.
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Posted - 2010.07.25 21:21:00 -
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Originally by: Frozean This is my fit. Only used in Minmatar space.
The fit has 400 ish dps tank, with my skills and crystal set.More then enough for missions.
The fit has 5 target painters, 2-4 dedicated to hitting with torps (the last TP still gives 5-10% vs elite cruisers, focus them).
You always run all of them like a piano. If you only need 2 for Battleships, you run 3 for your drones, making them the best hammerhead user in eve.This golems hammerheads can alpha spider drones in one hit.
[Golem, Torp Golem] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Domination Target Painter Domination Target Painter Domination Target Painter Domination Target Painter Domination Target Painter
Siege Missile Launcher II, Juggernaut Javelin Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Juggernaut Javelin Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Juggernaut Javelin Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Juggernaut Javelin Torpedo Small Tractor Beam I Salvager II Salvager II
Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II Large Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II
Hammerhead II x5 Hobgoblin II x5
Props, thats a fit from someone who has balls.
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Happy Lady
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Posted - 2010.07.25 21:31:00 -
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I would fit a tengu and a golem and a cnr and a cerebus and basically every other caldari missile ship you can think of.
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Mordiss Nex
Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.07.25 21:51:00 -
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Nice. For my 16th birthday my dad gave me a Smith & Wesson .38 snubby.
On topic ... The PWNGE (?) Target painter is always better to use than a T2 target painter, less cap or better fitting can't remember.
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Brannor McThife
Caldari Brotherhood of the Ancients
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Posted - 2010.07.26 01:56:00 -
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I'm by no means a Golem expert, but here's how mine currently looks, and I plan to upgrade my launchers and BCUs to Caldari Navy ones shortly. I built mine this way so that it CAN perma run. I've had to walk away to go attend to my 2-year old at night and left it running tanking 9 Serpentis BS and about 10 cruisers.
LOW: 3 x BCU II 1 x DC II
MID: Cap Recharger II Gist B-Type Large Shield Booster Shield Boost Amp II Shield Boost Amp II / PWNAGE (Depends on battleship/cruiser heavy mission) Thermal shield resist II (name escapes me now...) 2x Ballistic shield resist II
(Obviously shuffle resists as required)
HIGH: 4 x Arbalest Cruise Missile Launchers; Caldari Navy Cruise Missiles 2 x Salvager I 1 x Tractor Beam I
RIGS: Capacitor rigs.
Easily fits the ship, and with my skills is a perma tank. With both Amps I get just over 500 shield boost every cycle. I can almost 1-shot battlecruisers... will look to up my missile skills to ensure this.
This setup doesn't cost a fortune and works nicely for me. Oneday I'll consider a torp Golem, but it just seems overly complex and restricted (setup and implants) getting the torps to reach 40km and then gimp (my view) your tank to use lots of TP to kill other things.
-G
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Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2010.07.26 03:41:00 -
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Originally by: Brannor McThife
3 x BCU II
I can almost 1-shot battlecruisers... will look to up my missile skills to ensure this.
Seems like there's a clear upgrade path to fix that. ;-)
Quote: 4 x Arbalest Cruise Missile Launchers; Caldari Navy Cruise Missiles
CN Cruise and T2 are both better than Arbalests. You should use one of them.
-Liang -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter Blog
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Brannor McThife
Caldari Brotherhood of the Ancients
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Posted - 2010.07.26 04:44:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Brannor McThife
3 x BCU II
I can almost 1-shot battlecruisers... will look to up my missile skills to ensure this.
Seems like there's a clear upgrade path to fix that. ;-)
Quote: 4 x Arbalest Cruise Missile Launchers; Caldari Navy Cruise Missiles
CN Cruise and T2 are both better than Arbalests. You should use one of them.
-Liang
My OP:
Originally by: Brannor McThife
...and I plan to upgrade my launchers and BCUs to Caldari Navy ones shortly.
Duh. :p
Have my 5-run CN Launcher BPC in my hangar...just need to skills to utilise it. Then a stack of missions with my new agent to get to 135k LP and the 5-run CN BCU BPC.
-G
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Neesha Marinn
Caldari Slave Traders Union
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Posted - 2010.07.26 07:21:00 -
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Edited by: Neesha Marinn on 26/07/2010 07:22:27
Originally by: NoNah [Golem, New Setup 4] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy X-Large Shield Booster Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Domination Target Painter Domination Target Painter Domination Target Painter Gist B-Type 100MN Afterburner Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 25
Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Javelin Torpedo Small Tractor Beam I Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Javelin Torpedo Salvager II Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Javelin Torpedo Small Tractor Beam I Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Javelin Torpedo
Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Hobgoblin II x5 Hammerhead II x5
That's pretty much as good as it gets. If you really want to spend more isk on it, get crystal implants and possible better BCUs even if I wouldn't recommend it. If you're desperate for income and speed, go with a decent smartbomb, but if you don't know how to handle it, don't use it.
Capboosters and XL Boosters are both so unnecessary in PvE. I dare say a capbooster is even pretty fail tbh. Large booster setups do the job well enough. Manage the tank properly and you just dont need injections.
And the faction mods? Not too necessary either. Fly it well and you dont need a warp out ever with simple T2 mods. At best id say a faction Large booster and maybe a faction SBA.
Now the crystals I would recommend, simply because that does not only affect the Golem, But every other active shield tanked ship you decide to fly from there on.
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Dr Nefarius
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Posted - 2010.07.26 07:31:00 -
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The single best advice I've seen here is to get a crystal implant set. Simply because it's a lot lower risk of loosing your pod then your ship while missioning in highsec. If you get the crystal set I'd probably advice you to go with this of the setups posted so far:
[Golem, Torp Golem] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Domination Target Painter Domination Target Painter Domination Target Painter
Siege Missile Launcher II, Juggernaut Javelin Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Juggernaut Javelin Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Juggernaut Javelin Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Juggernaut Javelin Torpedo Small Tractor Beam I Salvager I Salvager I
Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II Large Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II
Hammerhead II x5 Hobgoblin II x5
With crystal set this setup gives you 853 dps tank..... and not far from capstable when not running salvagers and tractor beam. The 3 faction painters will help your torp dps immensly.
Also it doesn't cost 5b, which means that you will get too keep the ship a bit longer, and wont get suicided after a couple hours.
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Poldarn Joaq
Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.26 07:42:00 -
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If you are fitting a damage control to a Golem you are doing it wrong. If you are doing missions that are getting through your active shield tank then best do something else or get a buddy along. ---------------
Thats no moon!!
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